Yo. @historo4031 please explain the very last slide at 1:15:06? It looks like some kind of pamphlet from the time but I either missed you talking about it or maybe it was meant to be left out. I really enjoyed this video and appreciate the time you spent on it :)
The European Colonizers did the EXACT same thing that the Native Colonizers did: the difference is that where whites saw free land, farm land cattle geazing and gold, the Comanches, Aztecs, Mayan, Navajo, Anasazi... Saw water, wildlife and grazing for buffalo. People are people
You say Texas became part of the Spanish empire right after LaSalle had landed there but that is not true. LaSalle landed in Texas in the 1600s and New Spain was established in 1535. So Texas was clearly part of the Spanish Empire before LaSalle started encroaching!😐
Yes and no. There were no Spanish settlements in Texas before La Salle, but Spain claimed it as part of their empire. Very hard to enforce your claims if the most presence you ever had was a failed expedition under Cabesa be Vaca
Actually it was part of the Apache empire, which was conquered by and became part of the Comanche empire. That was the real state of affairs regardless of what Spain, France, or Mexico claimed. After Texas became a country they still had to fight both the Comanche, the Apache and the other native tribes in the area. Finally joining the United States ensured a large enough population to push everybody out.
If US didnt migrate west the British or Spanish were going to migrate in so it was a race. Perhaps MD was the mindset that since the West was going to be civilized anyway it was better off the US be the one to do it first.
My first time to your channel. I had high hopes. However, given your lack of understanding of Manifest Destiny (and human nature in general) it's probably a waste of my time to give any more of it to you. Cutting out just after the six minute mark.
Mexico took it from Spain and Spain took it from the Aztecs and other indigenous people..and before that diff indigenous peoples took it from other indigenous peoples and so on and so forth
I’ve been enjoying much of these excursions into American history that I have stumbled upon… But you certainly have a lot of nerve taking such liberty to mix your own bias into this episode - RE: Manifest Destiny I know that in our present age, the urge to tickle the ears and get ‘likes’ from the dummied-down masses is often a temptation too difficult to deny …which, ironically, gives the listener whose paying attention an illustration of said hypocrisy: Just because something FEELS good, doesn’t mean that it SHOULD be done And equally, just because fulfilling Manifest Destiny increased standard of living, doesn’t mean that it was not guided by a moral motivation Why were the Catholics who were making the Anglos participate in Catholicism & blind dogma any more morally superior than the Anglo who was spreading CHOICE; or even his own brand or dogma? The answer is - they weren’t… but I suspect that you are of some northern euro ethnic descent, you feel that you are entitled to self-indulgent bouts of self flagellation But you are not. You are not qualified, nor do you hold the credentials to post that ‘serotonin’ was the driving factor in the Anglos westward expansion…. And I would further speculate that your own godless lifestyle has blinded you from insight into exactly HOW men of God commune with the spirit. And if I’m wrong, and you consider yourself a man who attempts communication with the divine, why would you expect others speak in the same way that you do….? To say that ‘not one man said to his wife’ etc etc is pure conjecture being presented as solid history: you are calling Manifest Destiny a lie. This is exactly what we do NOT need in todays present age, as civilization around us heaves, and the masses try to pass off their own individual, sociably acceptable bias as some kind of keen, modern insight that escape the propaganda of generations past….. when in fact…. All that’s being done here, is indulging the propaganda of a new generation, and an even more current indulgence, lacking self-awareness Were the so-called ‘natives’ who arrived from the Bering Strait morally superior while displacing the ‘natives’ that they, in turn, came across? Did some indian tribe have more of a moral standing to displace another indian tribe, as opposed to the Anglo?? And if we are to perceive the Anglo as stealing these lands, than why arent we viewing the Hispanic who stolen it sooner, as thieves?? Or the Aztec or Apache as thieves, themselves?? It always strikes me as such an intolerable prejudice, the way Euros (some more than others!) are singled out for doing exactly what everyone else was doing - for no other reason than their arrival into the Western Hemisphere via the Atlantic, as opposed to a more northwardly route, or eastern passage. Why is it so absurd to consider the legitimacy of the Anglos spiritual convictions - when we are forced to lend such consideration & respect towards the spiritual convictions and beliefs of the African, or ‘Native’ American indian? It’s so difficult to find an unbiased account of the history of man on this planet, without having to couple it with a lesson in the unique hypocrisies of the white man Anyone who is truly paying attention to our shared history can see…. There’s plenty of hypocrisy to go around for ALL So far, it’s been the success of that Manifest Destiny that provides so many with the safe-space to criticize it; if it would deserve any criticism, I would think that the first point…
You go around changing history as if you were there when we know you weren't. So how do you know what those people thought? You don't, so what gives you the right to change history other than the fact you must think your something pretty special. Good luck to ya.
The babbling of nonsense is more likely to be found in the last seven words of your post. I will concede that a belief in God might bring some form of happiness to some people but the declaration that an actual god (certainly the God represented in the Christian Bible) is tied to anything at all is... well, you said it... nonsense.
@@dabeln1 God is directly tied to this world where my brother died at 37, nothing fair about it but god allows terrible things to happen and then allows others to burn in hell, what a ruthless god
The conversational style of your lectures always makes for such an engaging listen. Thanks so much for posting.
Yo it's my favorite history professor! When is the next stream?
I'll be honest, I'm kinda bummed you weren't visible in this one. Your gestures and such are part of the fun of these videos.
Good stuff! Thank you!
Thank you for the video
Yo. @historo4031 please explain the very last slide at 1:15:06? It looks like some kind of pamphlet from the time but I either missed you talking about it or maybe it was meant to be left out. I really enjoyed this video and appreciate the time you spent on it :)
My favorite time in Texas History.
Sorry I didn't listen longer. I got my Irish up before I heard you out. My bad.
Manifest Destiny was a notion predating the War of 1812. Where did you get 1845 from?
You are right about the flag.
The European Colonizers did the EXACT same thing that the Native Colonizers did: the difference is that where whites saw free land, farm land cattle geazing and gold, the Comanches, Aztecs, Mayan, Navajo, Anasazi... Saw water, wildlife and grazing for buffalo. People are people
You say Texas became part of the Spanish empire right after LaSalle had landed there but that is not true. LaSalle landed in Texas in the 1600s and New Spain was established in 1535. So Texas was clearly part of the Spanish Empire before LaSalle started encroaching!😐
Yes and no. There were no Spanish settlements in Texas before La Salle, but Spain claimed it as part of their empire. Very hard to enforce your claims if the most presence you ever had was a failed expedition under Cabesa be Vaca
You’re not a historian. I am. You’re wrong
Actually it was part of the Apache empire, which was conquered by and became part of the Comanche empire. That was the real state of affairs regardless of what Spain, France, or Mexico claimed. After Texas became a country they still had to fight both the Comanche, the Apache and the other native tribes in the area. Finally joining the United States ensured a large enough population to push everybody out.
Are you sure
Manifest Destiny with Marijuana legalization because its possibly human
It changed history for women
Well done. I apologize.
Please stop! Serotonin? Seriously!
If US didnt migrate west the British or Spanish were going to migrate in so it was a race. Perhaps MD was the mindset that since the West was going to be civilized anyway it was better off the US be the one to do it first.
My first time to your channel. I had high hopes. However, given your lack of understanding of Manifest Destiny (and human nature in general) it's probably a waste of my time to give any more of it to you. Cutting out just after the six minute mark.
The taking of mexican land
Cry harder.
lose wars, lose territory.
Mexico took it from Spain and Spain took it from the Aztecs and other indigenous people..and before that diff indigenous peoples took it from other indigenous peoples and so on and so forth
JUSTIFICATION BY FAITH😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’ve been enjoying much of these excursions into American history that I have stumbled upon…
But you certainly have a lot of nerve taking such liberty to mix your own bias into this episode - RE: Manifest Destiny
I know that in our present age, the urge to tickle the ears and get ‘likes’ from the dummied-down masses is often a temptation too difficult to deny
…which, ironically, gives the listener whose paying attention an illustration of said hypocrisy:
Just because something FEELS good, doesn’t mean that it SHOULD be done
And equally, just because fulfilling Manifest Destiny increased standard of living, doesn’t mean that it was not guided by a moral motivation
Why were the Catholics who were making the Anglos participate in Catholicism & blind dogma any more morally superior than the Anglo who was spreading CHOICE; or even his own brand or dogma? The answer is - they weren’t… but I suspect that you are of some northern euro ethnic descent, you feel that you are entitled to self-indulgent bouts of self flagellation
But you are not.
You are not qualified, nor do you hold the credentials to post that ‘serotonin’ was the driving factor in the Anglos westward expansion…. And I would further speculate that your own godless lifestyle has blinded you from insight into exactly HOW men of God commune with the spirit. And if I’m wrong, and you consider yourself a man who attempts communication with the divine, why would you expect others speak in the same way that you do….? To say that ‘not one man said to his wife’ etc etc is pure conjecture being presented as solid history: you are calling Manifest Destiny a lie.
This is exactly what we do NOT need in todays present age, as civilization around us heaves, and the masses try to pass off their own individual, sociably acceptable bias as some kind of keen, modern insight that escape the propaganda of generations past….. when in fact…. All that’s being done here, is indulging the propaganda of a new generation, and an even more current indulgence, lacking self-awareness
Were the so-called ‘natives’ who arrived from the Bering Strait morally superior while displacing the ‘natives’ that they, in turn, came across? Did some indian tribe have more of a moral standing to displace another indian tribe, as opposed to the Anglo?? And if we are to perceive the Anglo as stealing these lands, than why arent we viewing the Hispanic who stolen it sooner, as thieves?? Or the Aztec or Apache as thieves, themselves??
It always strikes me as such an intolerable prejudice, the way Euros (some more than others!) are singled out for doing exactly what everyone else was doing - for no other reason than their arrival into the Western Hemisphere via the Atlantic, as opposed to a more northwardly route, or eastern passage.
Why is it so absurd to consider the legitimacy of the Anglos spiritual convictions - when we are forced to lend such consideration & respect towards the spiritual convictions and beliefs of the African, or ‘Native’ American indian?
It’s so difficult to find an unbiased account of the history of man on this planet, without having to couple it with a lesson in the unique hypocrisies of the white man
Anyone who is truly paying attention to our shared history can see…. There’s plenty of hypocrisy to go around for ALL
So far, it’s been the success of that Manifest Destiny that provides so many with the safe-space to criticize it; if it would deserve any criticism, I would think that the first point…
History can be Fascinating.
All their sufferings, deaths and tribulations of entire generations
Summarized in under one hour.
Calling Spanish white settlers....interesting.
?
They were White people. Have you met a person from Spain? They are WHITE PEOPLE.
My sister married a 6'7" white Mexican of Spainsh blood. About as white as my Sotchish/Irish self. Spain is in Europe, where we whities hang.
Aren't Spanish white?
Spanish people are white, Mexican people are not.
Eh... love history but this guy just rubs me the wrong way.
This is what passes for history, today. What a joke.
You’re not a historian. I’am. You’re wrong and ignorant
@@christophereichten9005 After your proof that I was wrong, I am sure you are a "historian".
@@thomaswayneward When you’ve published something get back to me Jethro.
@@thomaswaynewardQuiet Peasant. Go back to your toil and leave history to those who have an education.
@@christophereichten9005 When you learn true history get back to me.
You go around changing history as if you were there when we know you weren't. So how do you know what those people thought? You don't, so what gives you the right to change history other than the fact you must think your something pretty special. Good luck to ya.
So whats the REAL history, since you were there yourself! LOL
You babble nonsense in the first three minutes in this video. God is directly tied to finding happiness.
The babbling of nonsense is more likely to be found in the last seven words of your post. I will concede that a belief in God might bring some form of happiness to some people but the declaration that an actual god (certainly the God represented in the Christian Bible) is tied to anything at all is... well, you said it... nonsense.
@@garyhoddinott9076 Then concede, boy, for brevity is the soul of wit.
@@dabeln1 Logic?
@@garyhoddinott9076 Yes, now go and forgive and your sins shall be forgiven.
@@dabeln1 God is directly tied to this world where my brother died at 37, nothing fair about it but god allows terrible things to happen and then allows others to burn in hell, what a ruthless god