Were you under the impression Bailey had solved the damp problems with alu-tech. Think again... find out more by watching. If you find helpful click subscribe.
Dont spend 500 pounds a corner all you need is ronseal wet wood hardener paint on with a paint brush drys rock hard in 2 hours seals and stops moisture brilliant stuff 12 pounds from bnq
Great video we’ve just brought a Bailey unicorn Cartagena 2020 black addition so I will be checking the floor in more detail thanks for the information
Interesting article, thanks...but now I'm flapping a bit! LOL Ive put a deposit (fully refundable) on a Unicorn Vigo, on a Click and Collect principle this Saturday. I'll be taking my meter and something to lay on! Thanks again for tips. Fingers crossed we've got a good one !!
I have put in an order for a Bailey Discovery D4-2 which I hope will reach me here in Japan by next summer. I still have time to cancel my order, but despite this valuable information, I will not. Here are my reasons why and also, why this is a good video. 1) Japan for the most part, has very hot and humid summers. We also have a rainy season in June/July and rainfall here can be very intense as we have just witnessed this week. 800mm rainfall in a few days. 2) The intense summer heat and the very severe winters with heavy snowfall plays havoc with road quality. Consequently, Japan therefore does not use 'cat's eyes' in the road as it would be futile. 3) I live 200 metres from the beach.... The background above combined, suggested to me that the stronger Alu-tech bodies have a better chance of long-term survival in this particular climate than most others. I don't recall Bailey stating that they had "solved the water ingress problem", but certainly did make claims to have greatly reduced it and certainly the caravans are comparatively strong. The video is good because it does point out the weaknesses and that allows me and others to consider ways in which to protect the underside when it does finally land in Japan/or collected from your local dealership. Sorry for the long comment, but I think that a detailed response is warranted so that newcomers are not put off unnecessarily. In fairness, Caravan Source did try to allay fears, but perhaps not quite enough. Caravanning is ALWAYS going to be a compromise and the vehicle itself from whichever maker is already compromised by the nature of the beast. Not even agricultural trailers last forever, although the family farm has a tipper trailer made from wood that is over a 100 years old and used to be pulled by horses. Sump oil is what has preserved that!
We purchased a Bailey, as new. It has never passed the service for damp\water egress :( We had a 5 year warranty plan with the service, so we didn't pick up the bills. The Caravan, has never left the site and done just a couple of miles from storage to pitch. Such as life.
I don't know the specification of the floor wood they use but would have thought they would specify "marine ply" and give it a few coats of yacht varnish. Generally does the trick for boats.
Hi I have just bought a 2012 bailey unicorn and found damp in 1 corner and fixed it a very simple solution . The main cause of damp in the corners is a very fundamental flaw that nobody has seemed to have notice . The bottom skirt track goes behind the corner skirt instead of having a stopend, this allows water to run behind the skirt into the corner and hence a wet corner. Simple fix seal the track with silicon at each corner just before it goes behind the skirt.
Hi ,a very interesting vlog ,,I was thinking of changing our caravan for a Bailey brindisi or Vigo 2015/16 because I love the large window in front and as you say the lay out is nicely set out compared to so rivals. I know that water ingress still seams to be a problem with all makes but was hoping bailey got it about right as you see a lot of them so you would think that they wouldn't have to many problems. ....so I guess what I'm asking is would this put you off? as I've had the stress of panels cracking etc in the past and could do without the hassle .pls advise cheers
I'm so glad we didn't buy a bailey. We were on holiday a few weeks ago and heard a horror story about a brand new bailey model it was a 2023 model and bailey didn't want to honor the warranty . The owners were fobbed off with excuses until bailey finally gave them a new van. We have a 17 year old swift challenger 530. I love it totally . She might be old , but also problem free everything works and she's damp free , just has a yearly service done . The missus loves the unicorn maybe one day, or I love the lunar clubman si. To me that van ticks every box
TBF Bailey never claimed that they had solved the damp problem completely when they introduced Alutec but they removed timber from the wall and roof structures which could rot when damp and reduced the number of roof joints that could potentially seep water.
My brother bought a Bailey not long ago,I don't know what model it is,but his has aluminium walls. He recently discovered that the floor is totten, due to damp.
Hi, great info, just wondering if you know if the series 2 valencia 2014 model year has the same problems as bailey seem to have done away with the front locker and the led handles. many thanks
So do you recommend always using a cover or will that make everything damp due to lack of ventilation? My Father had always leaks in his motorhome so we glued on a vinyl roof. End of problems.
Can I ask what percentage would you think that a caravan needs to be looked at we have a 2018 Unicorn Madrid that has just been serviced by a mobile guy and it came back with a reading of 26% underneath the fridge when nearly everywhere else was just 13%. Thanks
I've subscribed, really useful information thank you. Investing £15 in a lavalier microphone to clean up the outdoor audio would improve the viewer experience. Cheers
My Unicorn Cadiz is waiting to go back to Bailey for warranty work to the floor,front right corner. The damp smell inside is horrible. Just three years old and not towed far due to one pandemic or another. Nice caravan but sadly let down by poor build quality.
The problem is the trim around bottom it only there for looks. pull it off reseal the gaps under there I'm gonna use eternabond tape put trim back on run a bead of sealant if wanted along top of trim edge. also check wheel arch water runs down on the top inside of wheel arch cover seeping down into the floor due to manufacturers not applying sealant properly.
I thought the reason for the floors rotting on the alu techs was the condensation dripping down the inner walls on to the floor because the sides had been put on top of the floor ? Please correct me if im wrong.
hya jonathon , a quick question on the damp wood underneath a van . ive got a very small piece of soft wood undeath my pageant it was caused by bad design and water dripping off the back corner and awning rail , ive sorted that now buy fitting a aluminium piece to keep water off the floor this works 100%. but i'm going to cut it out and replace it , do you have to remove the plastic side trims to replace a small piece of lower floor or can it be done without removing the trims? thanks glenn
great video, I've no confidence in spending my hard-earned cash on a baily now, Problem is, Just what do I go for, I'm very tall so good headroom is a must , have you a video or can you recommend a caravan that's got the build quality that has stood the test of time? im maxed out at 7G.s also so not alot of cash in caravanning terms, Please help
Sorry at the moment with the prices being so high I can't recommend anything of the age you're going to get that wouldn't have problems. If you watch my video what is the best caravan to buy that might help you.
Thanks for the video...keep it up. Just went to look at a 2011 Lunar Quasar 525 and found the rear corners were damp. Looked fine inside, I think it's a lack of a rain drip at the bottom of the back wall, water is running down a soaking the ply. Have you had any experience of this?
Wish I had known this before buying our 2013 Cartagena... Right front corner soaked. Bailey not interested. I agree, why spend all the money designing a damp free caravan to go and put a wooden floor made of ply underneath? Looking to repair, replace as we have a spot gone through to Styrofoam layer... Joys.
ALL caravans have water ingress. No caravan manufacturer has built a caravan that is water tight. We owned an original 2010 Pegasus for eight years with no damp anywhere.
Hold on a minute..... where is this water that is supposed to drain away coming from in the first place ? if the caravan is sealed up top correctly then you would not get any water run down inside the corners...... so why has it nor been sealed.. ?
Hi there, the floor needs damp cutting out and new wood bonding in its place. This is quite a common repair. Hopefully finding the cause of the ingress while repairing so it doesn't reoccur.
@@CaravanSource got a 2010 pegasus just picked up damp in the rear corner wardrobe but quoted 1350 to repair any suggestions for the 500 you quoted, cheers
Dont spend 500 pounds a corner all you need is ronseal wet wood hardener paint on with a paint brush drys rock hard in 2 hours seals and stops moisture brilliant stuff 12 pounds from bnq
Temporary repair! If it’s too damp it will still be too soft! U need to get it repaired properly
Your advice put me off a van today..reading 25..26 on the meter on 2 corners...thanks...
Incredible really. I have a 1990 silver line nova. It’s solid as a rock all over. When caravans were built to quality not to a price.👍 we love it.
Great video we’ve just brought a Bailey unicorn Cartagena 2020 black addition so I will be checking the floor in more detail thanks for the information
Excellent video well explained
Great job
Interesting article, thanks...but now I'm flapping a bit! LOL Ive put a deposit (fully refundable) on a Unicorn Vigo, on a Click and Collect principle this Saturday. I'll be taking my meter and something to lay on! Thanks again for tips. Fingers crossed we've got a good one !!
I have put in an order for a Bailey Discovery D4-2 which I hope will reach me here in Japan by next summer. I still have time to cancel my order, but despite this valuable information, I will not. Here are my reasons why and also, why this is a good video.
1) Japan for the most part, has very hot and humid summers. We also have a rainy season in June/July and rainfall here can be very intense as we have just witnessed this week. 800mm rainfall in a few days.
2) The intense summer heat and the very severe winters with heavy snowfall plays havoc with road quality. Consequently, Japan therefore does not use 'cat's eyes' in the road as it would be futile.
3) I live 200 metres from the beach....
The background above combined, suggested to me that the stronger Alu-tech bodies have a better chance of long-term survival in this particular climate than most others. I don't recall Bailey stating that they had "solved the water ingress problem", but certainly did make claims to have greatly reduced it and certainly the caravans are comparatively strong.
The video is good because it does point out the weaknesses and that allows me and others to consider ways in which to protect the underside when it does finally land in Japan/or collected from your local dealership.
Sorry for the long comment, but I think that a detailed response is warranted so that newcomers are not put off unnecessarily. In fairness, Caravan Source did try to allay fears, but perhaps not quite enough. Caravanning is ALWAYS going to be a compromise and the vehicle itself from whichever maker is already compromised by the nature of the beast. Not even agricultural trailers last forever, although the family farm has a tipper trailer made from wood that is over a 100 years old and used to be pulled by horses. Sump oil is what has preserved that!
Going to see 2x Bailey Pegasus Rimini today 2014 and 2015. Wish me luck
We purchased a Bailey, as new. It has never passed the service for damp\water egress :( We had a 5 year warranty plan with the service, so we didn't pick up the bills. The Caravan, has never left the site and done just a couple of miles from storage to pitch. Such as life.
I don't know the specification of the floor wood they use but would have thought they would specify "marine ply" and give it a few coats of yacht varnish. Generally does the trick for boats.
Hi I have just bought a 2012 bailey unicorn and found damp in 1 corner and fixed it a very simple solution . The main cause of damp in the corners is a very fundamental flaw that nobody has seemed to have notice . The bottom skirt track goes behind the corner skirt instead of having a stopend, this allows water to run behind the skirt into the corner and hence a wet corner. Simple fix seal the track with silicon at each corner just before it goes behind the skirt.
Blocking the bottom of the track up with silicone I believe isn't a good way to fix it. Causes other problems.
It worked for me
The track acts like a gutter and direct the water along which ever way the van is tilted
Hi ,a very interesting vlog ,,I was thinking of changing our caravan for a Bailey brindisi or Vigo 2015/16 because I love the large window in front and as you say the lay out is nicely set out compared to so rivals. I know that water ingress still seams to be a problem with all makes but was hoping bailey got it about right as you see a lot of them so you would think that they wouldn't have to many problems. ....so I guess what I'm asking is would this put you off? as I've had the stress of panels cracking etc in the past and could do without the hassle .pls advise cheers
I'm so glad we didn't buy a bailey.
We were on holiday a few weeks ago and heard a horror story about a brand new bailey model it was a 2023 model and bailey didn't want to honor the warranty .
The owners were fobbed off with excuses until bailey finally gave them a new van.
We have a 17 year old swift challenger 530.
I love it totally .
She might be old , but also problem free everything works and she's damp free , just has a yearly service done .
The missus loves the unicorn maybe one day, or I love the lunar clubman si.
To me that van ticks every box
I have a clubman es and it’s amazing,but the si is definitely next
Hi,Gr videos, have tou done a test on a Bailey vigo 2018 model.
Regards Kev
TBF Bailey never claimed that they had solved the damp problem completely when they introduced Alutec but they removed timber from the wall and roof structures which could rot when damp and reduced the number of roof joints that could potentially seep water.
My brother bought a Bailey not long ago,I don't know what model it is,but his has aluminium walls. He recently discovered that the floor is totten, due to damp.
Well known problem !
Hi, great info, just wondering if you know if the series 2 valencia 2014 model year has the same problems as bailey seem to have done away with the front locker and the led handles.
many thanks
Wow.
So do you recommend always using a cover or will that make everything damp due to lack of ventilation? My Father had always leaks in his motorhome so we glued on a vinyl roof. End of problems.
Can I ask what percentage would you think that a caravan needs to be looked at we have a 2018 Unicorn Madrid that has just been serviced by a mobile guy and it came back with a reading of 26% underneath the fridge when nearly everywhere else was just 13%. Thanks
I've subscribed, really useful information thank you. Investing £15 in a lavalier microphone to clean up the outdoor audio would improve the viewer experience. Cheers
My Unicorn Cadiz is waiting to go back to Bailey for warranty work to the floor,front right corner. The damp smell inside is horrible. Just three years old and not towed far due to one pandemic or another. Nice caravan but sadly let down by poor build quality.
The problem is the trim around bottom it only there for looks. pull it off reseal the gaps under there I'm gonna use eternabond tape put trim back on run a bead of sealant if wanted along top of trim edge. also check wheel arch water runs down on the top inside of wheel arch cover seeping down into the floor due to manufacturers not applying sealant properly.
Does this affect all Baileys. I.e I have a Bailey Phoenix 650 2019. Also would it be under warranty still?
what makes of caravan would you buy second all day?
I thought the reason for the floors rotting on the alu techs was the condensation dripping down the inner walls on to the floor because the sides had been put on top of the floor ? Please correct me if im wrong.
hya jonathon , a quick question on the damp wood underneath a van . ive got a very small piece of soft wood undeath my pageant it was caused by bad design and water dripping off the back corner and awning rail , ive sorted that now buy fitting a aluminium piece to keep water off the floor this works 100%. but i'm going to cut it out and replace it , do you have to remove the plastic side trims to replace a small piece of lower floor or can it be done without removing the trims? thanks glenn
where should I check a hymer nova 435?
So many baileys on the market ?
great video, I've no confidence in spending my hard-earned cash on a baily now, Problem is, Just what do I go for, I'm very tall so good headroom is a must , have you a video or can you recommend a caravan that's got the build quality that has stood the test of time? im maxed out at 7G.s also so not alot of cash in caravanning terms, Please help
Sorry at the moment with the prices being so high I can't recommend anything of the age you're going to get that wouldn't have problems. If you watch my video what is the best caravan to buy that might help you.
😱 we have a unicorn
Thanks for the video...keep it up. Just went to look at a 2011 Lunar Quasar 525 and found the rear corners were damp. Looked fine inside, I think it's a lack of a rain drip at the bottom of the back wall, water is running down a soaking the ply. Have you had any experience of this?
I’ve got that exact problem with my lunar quasar 😩
Wish I had known this before buying our 2013 Cartagena... Right front corner soaked. Bailey not interested. I agree, why spend all the money designing a damp free caravan to go and put a wooden floor made of ply underneath?
Looking to repair, replace as we have a spot gone through to Styrofoam layer... Joys.
Are there any Caravan manufacturers who make a composite floor?
Swift do
ALL caravans have water ingress. No caravan manufacturer has built a caravan that is water tight. We owned an original 2010 Pegasus for eight years with no damp anywhere.
super
Hi johnathan what was the name of the damp metre you use
Think you said they about 150 pounds
Protemeter mini is what we use.
Hold on a minute..... where is this water that is supposed to drain away coming from in the first place ? if the caravan is sealed up top correctly then you would not get any water run down inside the corners...... so why has it nor been sealed.. ?
Rain outside bridging across.
you cant hear you because of the wind
Is there a permenant solution?
Hi there, the floor needs damp cutting out and new wood bonding in its place. This is quite a common repair. Hopefully finding the cause of the ingress while repairing so it doesn't reoccur.
Yes bailey skirt modification all around the van which seals the floor to wall joints all the way round and also rear knuckle joints on this model.
@@CaravanSource got a 2010 pegasus just picked up damp in the rear corner wardrobe but quoted 1350 to repair any suggestions for the 500 you quoted, cheers
Feel free to email us or WhatsApp pics and damp report and we will take a look
Don’t let the Bailey fan-boys hear you say all this ☝️🤪
how is this fixed?
If the floor is damp It requires the floor to be re-boarded.
@@CaravanSource floor isnt damp its just wet on corners . is needs fixing before it starts to rot eventually
You really don’t like Bailey caravans 🤣🤣