Drill Powered Wire Twister and Stripper That Has Gone Viral

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  • čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
  • In this video I take a look at a drill powered wire twister and stripper that has been going viral on social media. Is it as good as advertised? Does it speed up the process of stripping and twisting electrical wires? We will take a look at all of that in the video!
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Komentáře • 161

  • @HowToHomeDIY
    @HowToHomeDIY  Před rokem +6

    Have you all been seeing this wire twister/stripper all over the place? What are your thoughts on it?

    • @pgood7266
      @pgood7266 Před rokem +1

      This technic is mostly used in third world countries where they use electrical tape instead of wire nuts

    • @SloppyWzrdSleeve
      @SloppyWzrdSleeve Před 8 měsíci

      Would this work for wire that is used for paper bales? At my job we bale scrap paper and use wire with a hoop on one end. My issue is tight hand space and looking for something like this to get tighter bales. Think this would work? 🤔

  • @-Brunnen-G
    @-Brunnen-G Před rokem +29

    Some of those problems might be fixed putting the drill on the slower speed setting.

  • @zurialjazz
    @zurialjazz Před rokem +8

    Big mistake I did, but fixed using this. Strip the wire that goes into the Center hole.
    Hold the pliers holding the wires directly in contact with the face of the bit. Then drill.

    • @CitEnthusiast
      @CitEnthusiast Před rokem +1

      Yes, my thoughts too. In fact, why not strip all the wires? A great twisting tool is always helpful, especially with 3, 4 or 5 wires.

  • @DemureDave
    @DemureDave Před rokem +10

    I just use Wago lever nuts. It's quick, easy, secure, and has a much higher continuous operating temperature rating than would ever be necessary, so it's really safe, too.

    • @one7decimal2eight
      @one7decimal2eight Před rokem +2

      That's what I use. Well worth the investment. Especially when you want to pull your hair out trying to wrap 4+ ground wires into a nut and 1 keeps pulling out. Wago eliminates all that.

    • @wombleofwimbledon5442
      @wombleofwimbledon5442 Před rokem +2

      Heard. In addition, they don't ruin the wire, so rewiring or doing later work is so much easier.

    • @DemureDave
      @DemureDave Před rokem +2

      @@wombleofwimbledon5442 Yeah, I've been using them in my home. You're right, since they just clamp down on the wire and it doesn't require the twisting and bending of the wire while working with it, the wire maintains its integrity.

    • @roberte.6892
      @roberte.6892 Před 4 měsíci

      wagos for the win, fo sho. If you're a novice, trying to get 3 separate 14 or 12 AWG wires wrapped around each other and THEN get a wire nut SECURELY on there... tear out your hair is right

  • @OneDeadDonkey
    @OneDeadDonkey Před rokem +4

    Thanks for setting the record straight on this Adam, I almost bought one of these not long ago - glad I didn't. Love these kinds of one off gimmick tools usually though.

  • @user-gm4jt2qv4y
    @user-gm4jt2qv4y Před 2 měsíci

    WOW!! ...IS THIS THE TWISTED STRIPPER I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR ALL MY LIFE????

  • @JoseMorales-yf1mt
    @JoseMorales-yf1mt Před 8 měsíci +1

    I like how at 6:20 you put two videos together as if it you purposely snipped the wire so it can snap. Haha

    • @HowToHomeDIY
      @HowToHomeDIY  Před 8 měsíci +1

      I didn’t. That actually happened on its own. It completely took me off guard. But good try.

  • @taniacowger104
    @taniacowger104 Před 11 měsíci

    Always brilliant advice . Thank you from us lady’s that need to try a bit of DIY ..

  • @martywinter7399
    @martywinter7399 Před rokem +7

    Never used one but was wondering what a slower RPM would do?

    • @patrickjames1080
      @patrickjames1080 Před rokem +1

      Thinking the same thing

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 Před rokem

      A little more control is all.

    • @windblownmccoy2908
      @windblownmccoy2908 Před rokem +1

      He replied to another comment and said "it was actually worse". Buying a version made to spin the right way might be handy. Needs a lil work.

  • @TomCee53
    @TomCee53 Před 10 měsíci +4

    It would be in testing to see how it would behave with no center wire, so that the wires just twist around each other, kind of like with pliers. 😊

    • @americanmuscleup2497
      @americanmuscleup2497 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Right sometimes you have to be smarter than the “tool” 😂

  • @CitEnthusiast
    @CitEnthusiast Před rokem +2

    Their product page on Amazon shows a clockwise wrap, not counterclockwise. But, great video, thanks as I just saw this in a short and thought it may work, but clearly it's not a great solution.

    • @Yaheed_
      @Yaheed_ Před 5 měsíci

      He did clock wise first buddy

  • @340dave
    @340dave Před měsícem

    What if you pre-strip the center wire, then run the clockwise twist?

  • @53roger
    @53roger Před 6 měsíci +1

    i purchased a similar one of these and the first two times it worked perfectly. From then on it stopped stripping the center conductor which totally ruined the connection. I used a drill and tested slow, fast, left, right, with up to 5 wires all with the same result...failed. Great idea though

    • @madmarlinlodgeguatemala233
      @madmarlinlodgeguatemala233 Před 3 měsíci

      put drill in reverse and it works fine if you have the same one I have. Mine looks like this

  • @patrickgr1547
    @patrickgr1547 Před rokem +1

    Kudos to addressing these issues there’s a ton of the stuff just like it in a 1940’s house built without ground wiring.

  • @tomprovan50
    @tomprovan50 Před měsícem

    great video I was wondering about that? I have wired houses and have no trouble twisting multiple wire I have a good pair of kliens. I do like wagos for some situations but they are expensive. Just my thoughts

  • @jackriley5974
    @jackriley5974 Před rokem +2

    Another Gen-Z concept you'll never see on the job!!

  • @7628739
    @7628739 Před 6 měsíci

    The center wire coukd be used for grounding using a ground wire nut. The hand tool wing type works perfect, there are two types

  • @1199486
    @1199486 Před 4 měsíci

    Thank

  • @nrthshor8586
    @nrthshor8586 Před rokem

    Thanks for the demo.👍

  • @BryanBowenArchangelBarachiel

    The only other test I would have tired was strip center wire first then try clockwise. If I was going to get one it would be for 5 wire 12 awg and 5 wire 10 awg. If it is less then that I use my channellock lyman pliers. Because of how it's been tightening wires blue or red wire nuts might not fit.

  • @wayneyadams
    @wayneyadams Před rokem +3

    Doing it the old-fashioned way:
    1) Strip your wires, 2 or 3 steps
    2) Twist them with pliers
    3) Screw on wire nut
    With the tool:
    1) Line up wires and feed them into tool
    2) Run tool
    3) Pull insulation from center wire
    4) Cut center wire
    5) Install wire nut
    WTF?!! How does that save time?! Since I use a fancy automatic wire stripper (like the Irwin tool), I can strip all the wires at once as long as I line them up in the jaws. In addition, twisting the wires by hand allows you to twist some of the insulated portion below the nut making a stronger connection that won't pull apart. This is one gimmick I am going to pass on.

    • @HowToHomeDIY
      @HowToHomeDIY  Před rokem

      I don't blame you Wayne! You saw what I did with mine. Thanks for the feedback!

  • @972958
    @972958 Před 4 měsíci

    Can this work on stranded wire

  • @DavidBugea
    @DavidBugea Před rokem +3

    With the cost of wire these days, I don’t see myself experimenting with something that might possibly tear the bundle of wires completely apart - even if it’s just part of the learning curve. 😂
    I think I’ll stick with the tried and true…

  • @rickpaulos
    @rickpaulos Před 7 měsíci

    what about different gauges of wire? 12 vs 14?

  • @gshock200
    @gshock200 Před 7 měsíci

    When homeowners try to make videos using the big boy tools. 😂

    • @HowToHomeDIY
      @HowToHomeDIY  Před 7 měsíci

      Big boy tools? How is this considered a big boy tool? 😂

  • @12wingwfetech
    @12wingwfetech Před rokem +3

    Looks like it will take the same amount of time doing it the old way as using the tool, or is that just me

    • @HowToHomeDIY
      @HowToHomeDIY  Před rokem +1

      I think it is faster but I don't think that the little bit that it is faster is worth what you get.

    • @farmeunit
      @farmeunit Před rokem

      I tried four wires by hand and it took forever and was a pain. Just a DIY job, and it worked, but would definitely do this over that. Or use Wagos next time.

  • @todosmiros8119
    @todosmiros8119 Před rokem +1

    this needs to be on a slow speed , right?

  • @inspectorgadget6510
    @inspectorgadget6510 Před 7 měsíci

    Does whatever company that makes that tool make that in a version that just one wire at a time?

  • @graphguy
    @graphguy Před rokem +3

    Snake oil

    • @HowToHomeDIY
      @HowToHomeDIY  Před rokem +1

      Agreed.

    • @madmarlinlodgeguatemala233
      @madmarlinlodgeguatemala233 Před 3 měsíci

      @@HowToHomeDIY It works fine. You still in a horse and buggy or something and will not try anything new. Love it when people criticize things that have not tried.

    • @HowToHomeDIY
      @HowToHomeDIY  Před 3 měsíci

      Did you not watch the video and visually see and hear evidence that I tried it? It’s garbage.

    • @madmarlinlodgeguatemala233
      @madmarlinlodgeguatemala233 Před 3 měsíci

      @@HowToHomeDIY FOS you just cannot use it right. I use it just fine and the little picky crap you called out was absurd.

    • @HowToHomeDIY
      @HowToHomeDIY  Před 3 měsíci

      @madmarlinlodgeguatemala233 no need to get upset. How would you suggest it be used differently? I showed in the video going faster, slower, reversed, etc. In my opinion it is a waste of money. If you want to use it then by all means 🤣

  • @thomasblake7046
    @thomasblake7046 Před rokem +1

    Besides the obvious inconsistencies in the connection, this seems like it would be very cumbersome doing this to wires inside a box or boxes with short wires. I'll stick with the old tried and true strip and pre-twist then wire nut.

  • @heatherumlah162
    @heatherumlah162 Před 9 měsíci

    wish I had seen this before I bought it.

  • @shawnwarwick5348
    @shawnwarwick5348 Před 4 měsíci

    The reason why you bend the center while you're over is so that it has bare wire touching the other two stripped wire because the machine does not strip the center wire

  • @RobertLeBlancPhoto
    @RobertLeBlancPhoto Před rokem

    I love my Wagos. :)

  • @user-jy2lg1xr9h
    @user-jy2lg1xr9h Před 7 měsíci

    This works really well for wire pulling!!. That’s what I use it for

  • @MrBigsky13
    @MrBigsky13 Před rokem +1

    A electrician would be able to counter all the flaws you found. In a short period of time he would be able to splice wires together that would pass anyone's (other than you) inspection. An 11 minute video can't produce a Master Level "Drill Powered Wire twister". Think of all the time you could save once you get the hang of the tool.

    • @HowToHomeDIY
      @HowToHomeDIY  Před rokem +3

      Then why aren’t any electricians using it? If it was something that could speed up work and still pass inspection or be remotely good, I tend to believe that they would be using it. But they aren’t.

  • @joelmollenkopf3767
    @joelmollenkopf3767 Před rokem

    Interesting

  • @jorgefonseca9018
    @jorgefonseca9018 Před rokem

    I think the instructions says to use an under 16V drill that’s why you are cutting the wire or insulation not removed properly

    • @HowToHomeDIY
      @HowToHomeDIY  Před rokem +1

      The instructions with mine did not specify a specific drill.

  • @greygremlin1248
    @greygremlin1248 Před 9 měsíci

    I don't need to strip wires. But i need some things to twist and pigtail. Im a little messy

  • @uncommoncents2125
    @uncommoncents2125 Před rokem

    what if you had some counter clockwise threaded wire nuts?

    • @HowToHomeDIY
      @HowToHomeDIY  Před rokem +1

      I don’t believe there is such a thing as a reverse or left handed wire nut. If there is then that would at least help it not untwist the wires.

  • @HAL-9000x
    @HAL-9000x Před rokem

    These types of twists are used in other countries where wire nuts are not needed. Which is interesting because their voltage systems are double that of the US.

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 Před rokem +1

      240VAC still comes to the home, it's why electric dryers/heaters can be used.

    • @jimmac1185
      @jimmac1185 Před rokem +2

      Voltage doesn’t matter, it’s the amperage that kills you.

  • @joel6427
    @joel6427 Před 4 dny

    It seems it would work better if the wires were stripped first.

  • @robertlewisvideo
    @robertlewisvideo Před rokem +2

    Why did you always put a wire in the center? Did you try it with using only the sides?
    I use Wago connectors anyway, so I was just wondering. Wago connectors are faster.

    • @HowToHomeDIY
      @HowToHomeDIY  Před rokem +2

      I did it because the instructions always said one went in the center. Didn't like it.

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 Před rokem

      Noob

    • @akmnl1
      @akmnl1 Před rokem +1

      I bought this item and before using it, I noticed in the photos and videos that the center wire wasn't getting much twist, although Adam did a good job testing it by pulling on the center wire in the video. I sent it back without even opening the package. I thought of re-buying it and trying it with only the outside holes. I would be tempted to strip all the wires first because I'm mostly concerned with the wear and tear on my wrists of twisting. Hey Adam, wanna give it another shot??? 😁

  • @Pro1er
    @Pro1er Před rokem

    You need some left handed wire nuts - problem solved. 😆

  • @jerrybutler1336
    @jerrybutler1336 Před rokem

    if its any help i just checked their advertising, it shows them using it clockwise, and at a slower speed

    • @HowToHomeDIY
      @HowToHomeDIY  Před rokem +1

      So what I found at a slower speed was it did not strip the wires as well and caused the beginning part to be strained but not stripped. Also, sometimes the middle wire would not get stripped.

    • @jerrybutler1336
      @jerrybutler1336 Před rokem

      @@HowToHomeDIY great, thx, im always suspicious with any advertisment, usually to good to be true

    • @HowToHomeDIY
      @HowToHomeDIY  Před rokem +1

      Same here. But as much as I was seeing it on social media and how well it appeared to do the job, I just had to try it.

    • @jerrybutler1336
      @jerrybutler1336 Před rokem

      @@HowToHomeDIY agreed

  • @fjb9234
    @fjb9234 Před 5 měsíci

    Bro ain’t got no trigger control.

  • @mikestanzel1192
    @mikestanzel1192 Před 7 měsíci

    The electricians I've watched don't twist the wires before they put the wire nuts on. I was kind of surprised the first time I saw it. This has been over many years and different companies.

    • @HowToHomeDIY
      @HowToHomeDIY  Před 7 měsíci

      Lazy.

    • @xxvodanhxx
      @xxvodanhxx Před 7 měsíci

      Incorrect. It depends on the nut. The winged nuts specify you don’t need to pretwist but when you twist the nut the jacketed portion directly below the nut also needs to twisted too. The old round nut with no wings need to be pretwisted because you can’t get enough torque on it to twist it together.

    • @HowToHomeDIY
      @HowToHomeDIY  Před 7 měsíci

      @xxvodanhxx Lazy

  • @shadowopsairman1583
    @shadowopsairman1583 Před rokem +1

    Safety wire pliers, Maybe.

    • @avflyguy
      @avflyguy Před 12 dny

      It might work on two wires with lockwire pliars, but 3 or more would be difficult to grab all 3 without compromising the tips of the wires. Most I've seen do .032 or .042 really well. Might was well use lineman plairs.

  • @patrickjames1080
    @patrickjames1080 Před rokem

    It's money - if I wired track homes for a living. Cool product.

  • @KROOZIN454
    @KROOZIN454 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I am not impressed either. However a slower drill speed gives better outcome.

  • @g.b.5206
    @g.b.5206 Před rokem

    No matter what you are sayng this tools is really helpful, if you do it by hand it will not be that much better, you tray to find issue that are not really issue, I bet you that you are using it!!

    • @jimmac1185
      @jimmac1185 Před rokem +2

      I’m a master electrician. I bought one a few years ago. It’s completely useless. I would never use one on actual electrical work.

  • @dendywidyasmara229
    @dendywidyasmara229 Před 4 měsíci

    It doesnt work on 1,5mm cables.

  • @SRCardow1
    @SRCardow1 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for the review I agree not very useful. Not a very good mechanical connection. Also don't think it is a very good time saver.

  • @BlondieSL
    @BlondieSL Před rokem +2

    That tool is trash! LOL
    It also looks like, besides not doing a good job, it always takes longer than just manually twisting wires, which guarantee a solid connection to all wires.
    I think that those people who complain that manually twisting takes too long, just don't know how to do it properly. And THAT could explain why so many problems in wiring are found later on.

  • @clarencewiles963
    @clarencewiles963 Před rokem

    If you can’t pull it apart before the wire cap then after putting the cap on your good. But I’ll not use it.

  • @journeymanturdpolisher1692

    Everybody bitching about the way the wires were twisted and I'm over here dying to know what wire stripping attachment that is and where I can buy one

  • @jackwessels9189
    @jackwessels9189 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great test and video. Will not buy.

  • @bentodd7549
    @bentodd7549 Před 5 měsíci

    Wonder what would happen if you didn’t go so fast

  • @WillieStubbs
    @WillieStubbs Před 6 měsíci

    Look, you just take that springy thing out of the wire nut and FLIP IT. Then when you run the drill counterclockwise you can put the nut on counterclockwise.... problem solved! How easy is that?
    Well except for the 2 hours needed to reverse all those springy things. A'ight back to video surfing.

  • @kennethbolton951
    @kennethbolton951 Před rokem +1

    this is another chinese product that floods the advertising zone with fake water. However, I used it to wire rebar together so it can be of some use.

  • @alphonsoboutondo9004
    @alphonsoboutondo9004 Před 11 dny

    I bought one of these and I am totally disappointed.

  • @anggaprahmana1341
    @anggaprahmana1341 Před 9 měsíci

    You have to peel the middle wire first bro.

    • @mikestanzel1192
      @mikestanzel1192 Před 7 měsíci

      I was wondering how the middle wire gets stripped. I believe the ad on CZcams showed it stripped.

  • @chuethao385
    @chuethao385 Před 5 měsíci

    There times when you have to twist more than 4 conductors together thing is useless

  • @larrylong6268
    @larrylong6268 Před rokem +1

    You did not show the manual method, you are running the drill too fast, slow down.

  • @davinadixon5873
    @davinadixon5873 Před 10 měsíci

    U do not stick one in middle

  • @7300Marlo
    @7300Marlo Před 6 měsíci

    This was not s we hat I saw online

  • @kingmatqc
    @kingmatqc Před rokem +1

    Maybe if you were not using the drill full throttle in second speed it would have a chance to works better.

  • @timothygingras6939
    @timothygingras6939 Před rokem +1

    Basically, it sucks goodbye

  • @Anuitu2u
    @Anuitu2u Před rokem

    2:59 Is it me ever looking wrong video tutorial or in this video, He is Not read the manual.
    Or the twister is not used for the right wire, or the twister only has 2 holes, and even seen 5 holes in online shop.

    • @HowToHomeDIY
      @HowToHomeDIY  Před rokem +1

      Manual was read. This doesn’t work well.

    • @Anuitu2u
      @Anuitu2u Před rokem

      ​​​@@HowToHomeDIY But, why the insulation of the middle is not come off? You won't need to remove the insulation.
      It supposed to tear all of the insulation.
      Or, I'm on denial.
      I'm supposed (planned) to replace all my cables in my old house, and this twister tool is my hope to speed up the process. (Me, not electrician, diy). I'm not buying this tool, yet. And, because of you, I'm considering to use wago, or Krustin terminal, or manual. Wago has a lot of fake product in my country, Krustin I can't decide which size, and manual twist is tiring.

    • @HowToHomeDIY
      @HowToHomeDIY  Před rokem +1

      It did come off but I do not recommend using this tool. It’s not consistent and does not do a good job.

    • @Anuitu2u
      @Anuitu2u Před rokem

      @@HowToHomeDIY ok. 👍 Thanks

  • @williamsweet7511
    @williamsweet7511 Před rokem

    looks like by spinning it backwards it created a right hand thread for the wire nut to tighten on. Not saying it's a good idea or tool but the thought in having the drill run in reverse is probable to make the wires into a righthand thread... Only thing I could see as a reason for having the drill in reverse

  • @chuckcampbell3927
    @chuckcampbell3927 Před rokem +5

    THANKS BUT NO THANKS.

  • @MrSpacelyy
    @MrSpacelyy Před rokem

    Some of these tools work better, counter clockwise

  • @daleb5967
    @daleb5967 Před 5 měsíci

    Way too slow start to finish. Can strip pretwist n cap 6 splices in that time

  • @chrisroddick3899
    @chrisroddick3899 Před rokem +1

    It’s crap!

  • @madmarlinlodgeguatemala233
    @madmarlinlodgeguatemala233 Před 3 měsíci

    Way too picky. Now way those left twist will com loose, especially after the wire nut is placed.

  • @itssnooker
    @itssnooker Před rokem +1

    Unnecessary tool!! Will not save time or effort

  • @kevincurry4254
    @kevincurry4254 Před 7 měsíci

    SLOW THE DRILL DOWN AND TRY IT AGAIN.

  • @thomasleonard1846
    @thomasleonard1846 Před 28 dny

    Why would you use high speed?

    • @HowToHomeDIY
      @HowToHomeDIY  Před 28 dny +1

      Because slow speed yielded even worse results.

  • @blt981
    @blt981 Před rokem

    Dude YOUR WRONG…MY GREAT GRANDFATHER FATHER WAS A GREAT DEPRESSION CHILD LIVED ON A FARM…SAID NEVER THROW ANY TOOLS OR METAL STUFF AWAY. PUT O]IT IN THE JUNK BOX…YOU MAY NEED A PART OF IT ONE DAY…COULD USE THE METAL IN A MELT POT. YOUR RIGHT GRANDAD…ITS CALLED RE-PURPOSE ….WHO WOULD FIGURE…

  • @pixels2polygonss
    @pixels2polygonss Před 8 měsíci

    Maybe try going slower?

  • @jaypie0864
    @jaypie0864 Před 6 měsíci

    Not great analysis. With better technique, this tool could be a game changer.

    • @HowToHomeDIY
      @HowToHomeDIY  Před 6 měsíci

      No. It’s garbage. I’ve tried every technique one can. Faster, slower, reverse. It’s just not reliable for repeatable results and can actually damage the wires.

    • @jaypie0864
      @jaypie0864 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@HowToHomeDIY I stand corrected! I'll keep an eye out for a similar tool.

  • @rickzwolinski
    @rickzwolinski Před 2 měsíci

    Two things, the pliers you are using are not heavy duty enough to make a twisted joint. Second always cut the wires at a bit of an angle before installing the wire nut. Your mechanics are somewhat awkward. The tool you displayed is just a joke. Most electricians will tell you the same.

  • @blt981
    @blt981 Před rokem

    Too much effort . Waist of time…strip each wire and connect wire nut..faster. X25-30 on new service install…..which is faster…

  • @sinclairpages
    @sinclairpages Před rokem

    I just don't trust the tool.

  • @MrSpacelyy
    @MrSpacelyy Před rokem +1

    Always pretwist.

  • @shadowopsairman1583
    @shadowopsairman1583 Před rokem +1

    Wagos are noobs and burners