Battle of the Ports - Pole Position (ポールポジション) Show

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  • Can you believe that I uploaded a video containing ONLY The Pole Position music and that's perfectly fine but this video got hit with a copyright strike before it even went live due to the music being used at the ending comparison section!
    So, unfortunately I had to reverse the music but if you'd like to hear the Pole Position theme here's a link to the other video I published -
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    Yes, finally after 262 shows of Battle of the Ports I'm getting on to the classic Pole Position. This game has so many ports and quite a few emulated versions which we won't cover but even without those there's still 16 versions to see right here. Enjoy.
    Time Code
    00:27 - Arcade
    02:08 - Atari 2600
    03:08 - Atari 5200
    04:23 - Atari 8 Bit home Computers
    04:58 - PlayStation
    06:15 - Gameboy Advance
    07:19 - Nintendo 64
    08:07 - Dreamcast
    09:07 - ZX Spectrum
    10:00 - BBC Micro
    11:14 - Intellivision
    12:07 - Commodore Vic-20
    13:04 - Commodore 64
    14:11 - Texas Instruments 99
    15:08 - MS Dos
    16:09 - Vectrex
    17:16 - All versions side by side
    Enjoy!

Komentáře • 323

  • @kenwheeler3637
    @kenwheeler3637 Před 5 lety +42

    The brakes for the Atari 5200 port are activated by pressing the upper left or right side buttons. The accelerator is either of the lower side buttons.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety +14

      bummer, I didn't know this. These buttons weren't mapped on the emulator. Thanks for the info.

    • @kenwheeler3637
      @kenwheeler3637 Před 5 lety +7

      @@RetroCore No problem. Pole Position is one of the games where the 5200 analogue controller is perfect for.

    • @AmyraCarter
      @AmyraCarter Před 5 lety +3

      That's an odd configuration.
      Then again, I'm used to the thumbstick axis having forward/reverse being set to up/down.

    • @supermariofan772003
      @supermariofan772003 Před 4 lety +2

      Pole Position's not supposed to have a brake button in the first place. Neither Pole Position 1 or 2 in the arcades have brakes. And really, you don't need them imo.

    • @riversarcadereview385
      @riversarcadereview385 Před 2 lety +1

      you beat me to it

  • @justanotheryoutubechannel
    @justanotheryoutubechannel Před 5 lety +16

    Holy crap that Atari 2600 port is incredible! I’m amassed they could pull of that racetrack effect with such little memory.

    • @luisreyes1963
      @luisreyes1963 Před 5 lety +3

      It was a fun game. Played it many times at my cousin's house when they had the Atari 2600 years ago.

    • @Lightblue2222
      @Lightblue2222 Před 3 lety +1

      I just got my copy recently. It really plays nice. Best feeling racer on the system. Enduro is nice too but doesnt have that arcade track feel of needing to judge each corner differently.

    • @Lauren_Tyler
      @Lauren_Tyler Před 3 měsíci +1

      Pole Position for the Atari 2600 was impressive. The sense of speed is absolutely amazing.

  • @SomeOrangeCat
    @SomeOrangeCat Před 5 lety +9

    That 2600 version fell comfortably into the category we Atari kids called "Close enough!"

    • @jesuszamora6949
      @jesuszamora6949 Před 5 lety +3

      Plays well, really all that matters. Pole Position II on the 7800 is also bice.

    • @patbrown911
      @patbrown911 Před 5 lety

      Enduro >>>>>>>>>>> any other Atari 2600 racing game

    • @Lightblue2222
      @Lightblue2222 Před 3 lety +1

      @@patbrown911 I would disagree. Enduro is fun and addictive but lacks the same arcade feel. For Enduro every turning corner is the same, while in Pole Position each corner of the track needs to be judged different to keep up the speed, giving you a sense of learning the track.
      Enduro is only about passing cars.
      Enduro you can pass more than 1 car at a time, but in Pole Postion the A.I. steer left to right, so it's a different challenge to get around them.
      Pole Position you lose speed by turning sharp. So for that top time it especially helps learning the track so you turn as least as possible.
      Enduro is more manic adrenaline, frantically passing cars quickly dodging left and right, and is more what I'd expect from 2600.
      Pole Position has a bit more depth in gameplay.
      The whether effects on Enduro are neat though. Thick snow makes it slower to turn. Night makes it harder to see, especially the fog sections which annoyingly reduce draw distance. But very clever stuff.

  • @fulgenzio1973
    @fulgenzio1973 Před 5 lety +19

    Wow, the Vectrex port is amazing! What a great piece of hardware.

    • @geoserenity
      @geoserenity Před 5 lety +5

      Not to mention an unexpected version to see

    • @jesuszamora6949
      @jesuszamora6949 Před 5 lety

      Dude, it's a shame the platform didn't take off, it looks gorgeous even in HD emulation.

    • @KISSbestfan
      @KISSbestfan Před 5 lety

      @@jesuszamora6949 vector graphics are not comparable to SD/HD, since you can resize vectors to any size you wish without quality loss

    • @jesuszamora6949
      @jesuszamora6949 Před 5 lety

      @@KISSbestfan Oh I get that. What I mean is that even emulating in HD on a raster monitor looks great. Nothing will truly replace a real vector display, though, shame it didn't take off.

    • @Mayhemerz
      @Mayhemerz Před 5 lety +1

      Just a pity it was one of the last games released and thus is a bit tricky to find today, at least cheaply here.

  • @pop2uno
    @pop2uno Před 5 lety +33

    I like the bgm, very "70s satanic lyrics in reverse". As always, thanks for the memories and cheers from México.

    • @SebasHCG
      @SebasHCG Před 5 lety +1

      this music is the opening of an anime called "pole position",
      a great cartoon opening song :)
      czcams.com/video/n3-Ip5XpV18/video.html

  • @BlaximilianD00d
    @BlaximilianD00d Před 5 lety +23

    I find the vectrex to be an interesting system. Despite the lack of colors it still manages to look nice

    • @rafaellima83
      @rafaellima83 Před 5 lety +2

      I've played in a real one and yes, it looks really nice.

    • @AmyraCarter
      @AmyraCarter Před 5 lety +4

      Fun Fact: The Vectrex is a double 4-bit system.

    • @philipthomas7536
      @philipthomas7536 Před 5 lety +2

      I have this for my Vectrex and it looks a lot better with the colour overlay card.

    • @Lightblue2222
      @Lightblue2222 Před 3 lety

      The smooth scaling is incredible for a home system.

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Před 17 dny

      ​@@Lightblue2222Scaling effects are super-easy on a vector display.

  • @spahr001
    @spahr001 Před 5 lety +5

    The best Pole Position I've played outside the arcade was the 2004 Jakks Pacific plug and play. It had a rotatable joystick that worked great.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety +2

      Someone else mentioned that. It's a shame I can't get hold of those here in Japan.

    • @pacmanfan6451
      @pacmanfan6451 Před 5 lety +1

      Ms. Pac-Man 5-in-1 (the Jakks Plug And Play that you mentioned) is available on Mame and it runs fine. At the moment (at least with the latest Mame release), the sound cuts out in some areas, but it'll get fixed with a later release.

    • @monicamanzo8727
      @monicamanzo8727 Před 5 lety +1

      Hahahaha it’s my fav game for the past 33 years. I play it every day. Never gets old

    • @solarflare9078
      @solarflare9078 Před 4 lety +1

      I remember having that. It's just a bloody shame I can never find it/get my hands on it again....

  • @joshmartimez2235
    @joshmartimez2235 Před 5 lety +4

    Played an original arcade cab of this game at a movie theater 20 years ago and loved every second of game play. I have the game on a Namco collection for ps2 but game play isn't the same due to having no steering wheel or pedal.

  • @RedRanger2001
    @RedRanger2001 Před 2 lety +1

    The ones in the Namco Museum N64, Namco Museum CD, Namco Museum PS2, and Namco Museum 50th Anniversary are emulations of the PS1 version with added speech samples...

  • @reagandow850
    @reagandow850 Před 5 lety +2

    Oh boy...those tires screeching bring back lots of memories. I had no idea there was a Vectrex port of this.

  • @sonicmario64
    @sonicmario64 Před 5 lety +4

    One noticeable billboard that I remember catching my attention in the Nintendo 64 version of "Pole Position" (from "Namco Museum 64") is the one with Blinky The Red Ghost from the "Pac-Man" cartoon series saying "But Clyde!", which always made me chuckle, especially because I thought it was supposed to be a hot dog character of some sort until I learned about there being a cartoon show based on "Pac-Man". XD

  • @elektrosoundwave
    @elektrosoundwave Před 5 lety +2

    Used to play this at the laundromat in the small town I grew up in. I also now have the theme song from the TV show stuck in my head

  • @stabarnak9841
    @stabarnak9841 Před 5 lety +5

    thanks for the props to the vectrex version - my personal favoutite, that I still play few times a month...less so since I acquired Vector Patrol (Moon Patrol) - the first arcade port to vastly exceed the arcade version in visuals and gameplay.

  • @liefacts3000
    @liefacts3000 Před 5 lety +5

    Wow. The reverse intro sounds flipping ace.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety +1

      It also keeps the copyright holders at bay.

  • @leefischer5814
    @leefischer5814 Před 5 lety +4

    Gotta say I didn't think there were that many ports of Pole Position. I am pretty shocked and also surprised that they never ported it to the Master System or Famicom. Awesome episode as always 👍

    • @user-gu5wy1to1v
      @user-gu5wy1to1v Před 5 lety

      Yeah, even it’s spiritual successor Final Lap was released on Famicom.

  • @sumdood8563
    @sumdood8563 Před 5 lety +5

    Imagine stepping into an F-1 car and having tons of fun driving around the race track
    Until you realize there aren’t any brakes.

  • @bland9876
    @bland9876 Před 5 lety +2

    The game that was on GameCube and Xbox and Playstation 2 and that was just called Namco Museum is also the same as the Gameboy Advanced Namco Museum and Pac-Man collection combined so the games play similarly including the fruit in Miss Pac-Man taking a different path when it bounces around

  • @fwingebritson
    @fwingebritson Před 5 lety +3

    great video. It reminds me of why I never bothered with home consoles and stuck with the arcades until into the nineties.

  • @chrisdavis4292
    @chrisdavis4292 Před 5 lety

    You also have to remember that Pole Position and Pole Position 2 were on the Namco Museum 50th Anniversary for the Playstation 2, Microsoft Xbox and Nintendo Gamecube. They both looked arcade perfect. It also has a virtual arcade with 80's music playing in the background.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety +1

      Those versions are Arcade emulation.

  • @SuperKokuJin916
    @SuperKokuJin916 Před 5 lety +3

    The very first video game I ever played!! Early '85 as a happy 3 year-old who didn't understand the accelerator had to be held down to "go"; not just steer! LOL. It will always have a special place in my heart. The early Namco arcade music gives me all kinds of feels!! ☺
    The blue Jakk's Pacific plug n play emulator console with the twisty knob (😳) controller was different but actually played great once you got used to it!!
    Good job on reversing the opening track!! You don't want the legendary Shuki Levy on your case. It still sounds GREAT!! 👍🏾

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety +1

      I sure Shuki Levy would be cool :) He's a legend of our youth.

  • @SonicBoone56
    @SonicBoone56 Před 2 lety

    The C64's tire squealing noise is adorable. Sounds like a mouse squeaking.

  • @Lightblue2222
    @Lightblue2222 Před 3 lety +2

    I just recently added this to my 2600 collection. The gameplay is surprisingly good. Very playable is right!
    I was thinking the same thing when comparing video of the 5200 version. The 2600 plays smoother. Even the backgrounds scroll choppy on 5200 in comparison.
    I guess they went for graphics over gameplay. The computer cars have an upgraded look, and there are actually road signs now, but that doesnt make up for choppy gameplay.
    Great episode! Love all the comparisons.

  • @apollosungod2819
    @apollosungod2819 Před 3 lety +1

    Namco's early 1980s arcade hardware and programmer teams were programming on dual CPU arcade boards which no doubt gave Sega the challenge to step their game up and develop the dual and triple CPU Super Scaler arcade boads...
    Also it's crazy how Namco was also first at making a dual CPU 3d polygon graphics arcade board in the late 1980s way ahead of Sega but Sega eventually caught up and just completely surpassed them in the 1990s with super expensive arcade board hardware like the Sega Hikaru, a quadrilateral polygon rendering monster.

  • @lordmaximus780
    @lordmaximus780 Před 3 lety

    I can't believe you just crushed my warm childhood recollection of Pole Position on the C64. It was amazing, to me! Still have the original game box and cassette. Ignorance is bliss I guess!

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 3 lety

      I'm afraid so. Over the years of making this series I've found so many games I loved to be awful.

  • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
    @THENAMEISQUICKMAN Před rokem +1

    This game makes me nostalgic for the old 80s Fuji layout. 90s Fuji was largely unchanged, but the modern layout now has one of the worst final sectors I've ever seen on a race track, and I'm convinced it was designed so that nobody would ever be able to figure out how to take it properly.

  • @robbiereisman8954
    @robbiereisman8954 Před 5 lety +4

    I remember as a kid I absolutely loved Pole Position. I thought it was so cool that I could "drive" for real on the arcade machine. In my view, the 2600 port is excellent for the hardware. I have it on my Vectrex and it is quite good. The Jakks Pacific plug 'n play version uses a cool steering control where you twist the joystick to simulate steering.

  • @MVC2fan1
    @MVC2fan1 Před 4 lety +2

    I played the emulated version of this on the PS2.

  • @Colin_Ames
    @Colin_Ames Před 5 lety +1

    Another great video. Pole Position was the game I played more than any other in the arcades.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety

      That doesn't surprise me. It was everywhere back in the day. It's one of those Arcade games you were pretty much guaranteed to find when on holiday ☺️

  • @ChaunceyGardener
    @ChaunceyGardener Před 5 lety +4

    Just for designing Pac-Man Iwatani can be considered a legend!

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety

      He sure can be. He's right up there with the best of them IMO.

    • @jesuszamora6949
      @jesuszamora6949 Před 5 lety

      Namco was blessed to have him, that's for sure.

  • @gingerdude94
    @gingerdude94 Před 5 lety +2

    A very enjoyable trip down memory lane. Thanks.

  • @DragonSlayerKyo
    @DragonSlayerKyo Před 5 lety +6

    That's always par the course for Atarisoft… They'd always put little effort into other ports to make their own in house releases look better. Though the Micro port is really impressive. I can forgive the slight choppiness, granted I don't think the Micro was ever designed to handle games like this.

  • @jkajmo
    @jkajmo Před 5 lety +5

    Fun fact: Pole Position (arcade) is the 1st video game I've ever played in Poland (communist Poland so a game like this was very illegal)

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety +2

      Cool. I can imagine it was quite a few years old by the time you could play it.

    • @jkajmo
      @jkajmo Před 5 lety +2

      @@RetroCore oh yeah :) it was in August of '87. I'll always remember that day because discovering such a thing as video games is one of the greatest moments of my life (and I actually had/have an amazing life of adventures so that should tell you just how much I LOVE video games) 4 months later for Xmas I received a Commodore 64 & my life changed for the best. "The Last Ninja" "The New Zealand Story" "Giana Sisters" & "Donald Duck's Playground" became the staples of my life.

    • @jkajmo
      @jkajmo Před 5 lety

      @@RetroCore Also, I totally love your awesome channel. New subscriber & I can't stop binge watching your videos, on repeat :)

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety +1

      Thanks! I'm happy to hear you are enjoying the channel.

  • @Clasiku
    @Clasiku Před 5 lety +1

    Ahh, I remember playing this after riding the Go-Karts. I always found myself liking this game A LOT and I think I got a high score as well.

  • @Tempora158
    @Tempora158 Před 5 lety +2

    5:28 The Japanese version of the PS1 port does have the original Japanese voice sample. Highly likely Atari owns that "Prepare to qualify" voice clip and Namco's Japanese in-house dev couldn't be bothered to get an English speaking voice actor to record a new reading of the line as all the other console ports do contain a new recording of the line which, probably not coincidentally, were done in the United States. Except the GBA port, that seems to be using the Atari voice sample.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety +1

      Really? That's just lazy of Namco not to rerecord the voice samples for the western release.

  • @solarflare9078
    @solarflare9078 Před 4 lety +1

    This is actually one of my favorite arcade games out there, and it was definitely a joy to play it with the wheel and pedals it came in. Imagine if Hamster released this on the Switch's Arcade Archives Collection with compatibility with the Joy-Con wheels. If it means having a(n) (emulated) port that can play almost exactly like the arcade, I'm all in for it.

  • @TwinFamiProductionsOLD
    @TwinFamiProductionsOLD Před 5 lety +2

    For the 5200, there is a brake. You have to press one or both of the top controller buttons on either side

  • @topofbones
    @topofbones Před 5 lety +4

    The scaling of the original system still impresses me. Lots of good ports from 8 to 128 bits.

  • @NightSprinter
    @NightSprinter Před 5 lety +6

    I think the top fire button was the brake on the 5200? I know that version had Trak-Ball support, where you had the same opto-mechanical control as the arcade, but believe uses the keypad for gear control.
    Also, the PS1 version (and Pole Position II on Namco Museum Vol. 3) have support for analog controls via Namco's own "NeGCon" controller, which was originally meant for the Ridge Racer series.

  • @OrionCrazyCarl
    @OrionCrazyCarl Před 5 lety +1

    I played this a lot at various holiday camps during the late 80s ! And 90s! Last time I remember was 1997 at pentewan sands in Cornwall ! This and the proper sit in cabinet version or hard drivin' rinsed all my holiday money ! Great video

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety

      Wow, classic country side barns with arcades in them :) I remember as a teenager visiting some country pub with my family down in Devon. The pub had a barn and inside were all many of old arcade machines. Original cabs too. There was Space Invaders, Pacman, Star Wars and a few tabletop machines. None were switch on unfortunately.

  • @iespostavid
    @iespostavid Před 5 lety +1

    2600 programming: I recently noticed in cornering that one side of the red/white track ends before the car graphic. (The red/white track could be programmed with missile0, missile1, or the ball object.) The Missile0 object (used here for one track side) will have the same top-down colors as the 8-bit wide sprite (Player0 - your car) IF it falls on the same horizontal scan lines. Ending it off screen before the race car is a brilliant trick.
    In the opposite turn direction it flips sides.
    Sometimes you can see a bit of black at the end closest to the player’s car. That’s the black of the player car’s front tire.

    • @iespostavid
      @iespostavid Před 5 lety

      I always thought the 2600 street gray was too light. I made a color hack with darker gray track, white center line (which makes white oncoming cars) and green mountains with purple back mountains.
      You can find it on AtariAge.
      atariage.com/forums/topic/225033-fixing-pole-position-and-enhanced-source-code/?p=2992264
      Note: If the left zero on the speed bar isn’t a zero, that’s an Emulation bug just fixed in Stella 5.1.2 and later.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety

      Cool information there. Thanks for the insight.

  • @timpriddy349
    @timpriddy349 Před 5 lety +2

    Damn shifter was always whacked on the arcade version, stuck in one gear

  • @IncaWarrior3000
    @IncaWarrior3000 Před 5 lety +3

    I don't like Pole Position on the Atari, but I love Enduro . I recommend Enduro..... a very fun racing game from the Atari. I have Pole Position for the gameboy advance. Also I played the Arcade version... such a great game. Great video as always Retro Core.

  • @johnleonard317
    @johnleonard317 Před 5 lety +1

    Very cool video. Thanks for the analysis.

  • @RetroGamePlayers
    @RetroGamePlayers Před 5 lety +2

    Awesome comparison, I remember playing the Atari 2600 version and thinking it was amazing

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety

      Well, it plays well for that system. I can imagine being happy with it myself if I had it back in the day.

  • @williamhowe1
    @williamhowe1 Před 5 lety +1

    The next thing you'll also notice about the Atari 5200 is the fragile controller.

  • @Lee_1971
    @Lee_1971 Před 5 lety

    The amount of 10p's I slammed into that sit down version on holiday in Torquay in 1985 was criminal - wish I enjoyed the holiday a bit more!

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety +1

      Torquay, man that brings back memories. We must have went there a few time as a kid. In fact a lot of those southern costal places were nice. I remember Exeter being another place we'd visit in summer.

  • @PeBoVision
    @PeBoVision Před 3 lety +1

    it has been awhile since I've seen the Vectrex version without its overlay. Ir really is one of the best ports...not as good as Moon Patrol (which is actually better than the arcade versiom) but it plays well. When it comes to racing on a Vectrex though, nothing beats Hyper Chase for white knuckle speed.
    The Ti version like so many other ports, moves the car left and right rather than the road. Racing games always look and play better when the car stay centre screen...A friend had the 800XL version when I bought the TI Atarisoft version back in the day...made my friend laugh and me cry. But it is playable.

  • @justanotheryoutubechannel

    I played a version of this game on an old iOS version. It was brilliant, it had way more features than the original arcade version. I wish I still had a copy of it, but the app’s been deleted and modern iOS wouldn’t support it anyway.

    • @bland9876
      @bland9876 Před 5 lety

      One of the sad things about cell phones

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety

      This doesn't really effect Android that much.

  • @frankschneider6156
    @frankschneider6156 Před 5 lety +3

    Who needs brakes ? We brake for nobody.

  • @eds2011
    @eds2011 Před 4 lety

    And when I trying to play this game in my old atari 2600 this game in certain point of the game always crash. Seeing this video I almost crying because I remember all the good moments when I playing this fantastic game that I remember that times. Thank you :)

  • @enigma776
    @enigma776 Před 5 lety +2

    Had a Vectrex and had this game and you are right it plays absolutely great and looks fantastic with the overlay. Just a shame I don't have the Vectrex anymore, like most people it was sold once it started to collect dust and now regret it seeing as there a collectable now.

  • @QuanAnhAnimationMM
    @QuanAnhAnimationMM Před 2 měsíci

    i forgot to tell here, while Mass Media gone famous for Pole Position ports collection from PS1, N64, GBA and Dreamcast, Namco ported their arcade ports to Microsoft Windows 95/98/2000/ME as well under their pack, Microsoft Return Of Arcade (Pac-Man, Dig Dug and Galaxian are present with). it's 100% the same with arcade original

  • @williamwilson3526
    @williamwilson3526 Před 4 lety +2

    0:20 That's A Lot Of Compilation

  • @GuitarAnthony
    @GuitarAnthony Před 5 lety +2

    PREPARE TO QUALIFY!

  • @luisemilio1143
    @luisemilio1143 Před 5 lety +1

    I loved this video

  • @WrightOffsGaming
    @WrightOffsGaming Před 5 lety +1

    Great thanks Mark, you should try playing the PlayStation port with a negcon as it made it a lot of fun with near perfect cornering if I remember correctly.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety

      Somebody else mention that too. It seems Namco basically set up the controls to only work properly with the NeGcon. Kind of dumb when most people, even in Japan, never owned one. They should have at least gave two control options like most racing games do. One for digital and one for analogue.

  • @l34052
    @l34052 Před 5 lety +1

    When I was a kid this was state of the art lol, I loved my speccy.
    Thank the Lord for PCARS and Assetto Corsa😆😆

  • @forcedfeedbackclassicgamer5499

    Very cool. Love Pole Position. Didn't even know about the Vectrex port.

  • @gingataisen
    @gingataisen Před 5 lety +2

    We've come a long ways, people.

  • @hil1893
    @hil1893 Před 4 lety +1

    Damm, that arcade machine can display up to 3840 colors? Its more than the mega drive or the amiga which are hardware that relesed later.

  • @pcbjunkie1
    @pcbjunkie1 Před 5 lety

    This arcade game took many of my coins (200 lire at that time) from me when I was a kid. It never got old. Sadly, playing it on a console was never the same experience. I'm really impressed by the Atari home computer port though.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety

      I think back in the day just being able to sit in a cockpit style arcade cabinet made the experience magical.

  • @riversarcadereview385
    @riversarcadereview385 Před 2 lety +1

    Vectrex reminds me of the game "Speed Freak"

  • @luisreyes1963
    @luisreyes1963 Před 5 lety

    Only on the Japanese arcade version can you see real-life adverts on the sides of the race track, as well as the giant tire landmark.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety

      It's a shame they removed the ads from the western versions.

  • @RetroArcadeGuy
    @RetroArcadeGuy Před 3 lety

    You should have added a drum track to the reversed version, it sounds so sick it needs it! I like it, lol!

  • @DanielAyy
    @DanielAyy Před 5 lety

    I don't know why, but these early 80's episodes are great to watch while eating breakfast

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety +2

      So much variety in the ports, maybe?

    • @DanielAyy
      @DanielAyy Před 5 lety

      @@RetroCore yeah, that sounds about right! Keep up the great work btw 👍

  • @Charlie-Cat.
    @Charlie-Cat. Před 5 lety +3

    Hahaha. Do I really have to say anything about this timeless classic Mark?
    But I will say another great work as always kind sir. 8^)
    Anthony..

  • @wiredupretro
    @wiredupretro Před 5 lety

    The 5200 version offers brakes unlike what you had stated. Check the instruction manual. Also- the analog steering surpasses other home versions released at the time which were just digital controls.

  • @jaymzjulian
    @jaymzjulian Před 5 lety

    One note - a real atari 5200 actually has a two button controller, and the second button controls the brake. As an aside, it also supports analog controls via the trak-ball. Check out the manual: atariage.com/manual_html_page.php?SoftwareID=2091

    • @jaymzjulian
      @jaymzjulian Před 5 lety

      Also on the colours: That's what happens on a 5200 (and atari 8 bit) when you play a PAL rom on NTSC or an NTSC rom on PAL - this video has the correct colours: czcams.com/video/kdXNpEUT54o/video.html

  • @ABlackFalcon
    @ABlackFalcon Před 5 lety +1

    The Atari 5200 version of this game is fantastic! It's a great port which plays extremely well, and is a standout game on the console. The analog joystick is perfect for this game so you get very good control of your car, and the two buttons for accelerate and brake (you really should fix that in the video, the 5200 has two buttons remember!) work well. This is one of the games that shows off the strengths of the 5200's analog joystick.

  • @solarflare9078
    @solarflare9078 Před 3 lety +1

    Random Pole Position FPS counter cuz I'm bored:
    Arcade: 60 FPS
    Atari 2600: 60 FPS
    Atari 5200: 60 FPS*
    Atari 400/800: 60 FPS*
    PlayStation: 30 FPS
    GBA: 30 FPS
    N64: 30 FPS
    Dreamcast: 60 FPS
    ZX Spectrum: 20 FPS
    BBC Micro: 60 FPS**
    Intellivision: 60 FPS?
    VIC-20: 12-15 FPS (probably why it's not very exciting?)
    C64: 60 FPS
    TI-99: 60 FPS**
    MS-DOS: 10 FPS
    Vectrex: 60 FPS
    *Background scrolls at 7.5 FPS
    **Uses choppy background swapping instead of actual scrolling, which is NOT tied to framerate

  • @tomsuzyinfluencerinfj2712

    Indy 800 (Atari, Arcade, 1975), Indy 500 (Atari, 2600, 1977), first real race tracks

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety +1

      I should have been clear. I was referring to Formula 1 tracks.

  • @solarflare9078
    @solarflare9078 Před 4 lety

    There's also a 2008 plug n play port that I just remembered. It's not the best port, as it's missing the sharper curve at the end, the engine note is changed, you can't turn as sharply as the arcade (but it still controls really well with the analog twisting joystick) among other things, but it's still a well playing port that I have a lot of nostalgia with when I was much younger.

  • @jesuszamora6949
    @jesuszamora6949 Před 5 lety

    The 5200 joystick had a keypad like the Intellivision and ColecoVision. Also had more than one fire button IIRC. If I had to guess, the brakes are somewhere there.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety +1

      bummer, I didn't know this. These buttons weren't mapped on the emulator. Thanks for the info.

    • @jesuszamora6949
      @jesuszamora6949 Před 5 lety

      @@RetroCore We're always down for another updated video. :P
      Seriously though, what emulator are you using?

  • @MVC2fan1
    @MVC2fan1 Před 4 lety

    Did you know that there's a plug n play version of it? It was bundled with Mappy, Ms. Pac Man, Galaga, and Xevious.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 4 lety

      Yes but those Jack Pacific plug'n plays aren't available here. Still, no great loss since that will be just an arcade rom emulated.

  • @losalfajoresok
    @losalfajoresok Před 5 lety +3

    I really would to see some homebrew port for the C64 using the power of the almighty breadbin!

  • @BloggosPow
    @BloggosPow Před 5 lety +3

    Reversing the audio, very clever :D

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety +1

      Yep. First I tried to remove it but CZcams wouldn't allow that so I just deleted the original upload and uploaded a new version with reversed audio.

    • @BloggosPow
      @BloggosPow Před 5 lety +1

      @@RetroCore And it sounds recognisable too!

  • @thefurthestmanfromhome1148

    No compromise for sake of cost was the statement from Atarisoft.
    C64 version on cartridge £24.99

  • @amerigocosta7452
    @amerigocosta7452 Před 5 lety +1

    I'm no N64 (or graphics) expert but I believe the shaky car animation has to do with the usual bilinear filter / interlaced resolution the N64 is usually programmed to output. The difference with the Dreamcast sharp 240p output shown right after in the video is like night and day.

  • @JLsoft
    @JLsoft Před 5 lety +1

    3:30 - Either of the top fire buttons on the Atari 5200 version are Brake.
    [EDIT: atariage.com/manual_page.php?SystemID=5200&SoftwareLabelID=649&ItemTypeID=¤tPage=8&maxPages=12 ]

  • @shotgunl
    @shotgunl Před 5 lety +2

    Pole Position is good, simple fun with graphics soooo smooth. I played a ton of the VCS version, but I think that's the only version I've played besides the Dreamcast Namco Museum version. However, a nearby gas station (Amoco) had a Pole Position 2 upright cabinet for about a decade, up until swapping it for a Mortal Kombat cabinet. So, I'm not sure whether or not I've played more Pole Position or Pole Position II, but I've certainly put more money into to the sequel. Ha!

  • @josemariapena4226
    @josemariapena4226 Před 6 měsíci

    The zx spectrum is a very Nice port. Graphically for Spectrum is very good!!

  • @OM19_MO79
    @OM19_MO79 Před 5 lety

    Pole Position on PS was designed to take advantage of the neGcon. Just like Ridge Racer and RR Revolution, it's almost unplayable with the digital controller.
    The Atari 8-bit version also has selectable tracks. Atari announced the PP II home versions around 1982, after the 2600 release, it even had ads in magazines, the 5200 and 8-bit probably were going to be PP II ports but Atari didn't use the name until the 7800 release.
    The 5200 was a rushed console, it is basically an Atari 8-bit computer, the major difference is the inclusion of the GTIA graphics chip, which added other video modes and extended pallete, most 5200 games are identical to the computer versions, most of the times, Atari just changed the pallete used or changed some graphics to use the GTIA modes instead of the CTIA modes. Atari must have changed to that horrible pallete just to make use of a GTIA mode.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety

      That's kind of a dumb move from Namco with the PlayStation port. I mean, how many people actually owned a neGcon? Bot many. Even over here in Japan it's seen as an obscure controller.

    • @OM19_MO79
      @OM19_MO79 Před 5 lety

      They wanted their controller to be a standard, and it kinda work. In the US it's pretty common and Sony and others supported the controller up to GT 2, except SquareSoft in Chocobo Racing. I couldn't play PP and RR until I got that ASCII controller with a ball that has a neGcon compatible mode but couldn't get a pole position in PP until I got the neGcon.

  • @KISSbestfan
    @KISSbestfan Před 5 lety

    I havent had any idea that this game was ported into so many platforms. I was only familiar with C64 so far

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety +1

      I was kind of surprised too. I'm also surprised that there are no Japanese computer ports.

  • @smallpaul2923
    @smallpaul2923 Před 5 lety

    The gba did some great arcade ports. Outrun and super hang on are excellent on it.

  • @Y2G
    @Y2G Před 5 lety

    There's definitely something wrong with the Spectrum port in terms of slow down. It's approximately 3 seconds to 1 game second!

  • @ennahh76
    @ennahh76 Před 5 lety +1

    MS Dos’ engine sound is exactly the same as ZX Spectrums Chase HQ

  • @williamwilliam9993
    @williamwilliam9993 Před 3 lety

    The namco museum port replaces the goosyer or atari logo with a namco logo on the ship itself

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 3 lety

      That's how it should be. Only the US release has Atari on it.

  • @rudycassiano
    @rudycassiano Před 5 lety +1

    Excelent video! Congrats and keep joy our souls.

  • @pclinuxos_br
    @pclinuxos_br Před 5 lety +1

    I remember spending lots of quarters in this one...

  • @thefurthestmanfromhome1148

    Graeme Devine was 16 and still at school when he did thr C64, Apple and ZX Spectrum Conversions for Atarisoft.
    He'd seen an advert from Atari UK took in a 3D demo he'd written and got asked to convert Pole Position for them
    They put pressure on him to finish it, so he ended up taking a week off school to finish it.
    This resulted him getting expelled, after he was honest with the headmaster as to his absence.

  • @AtariCrypt
    @AtariCrypt Před 5 lety

    Cool video but I’m sad there’s no Atari STe port shown. Still, happy 8 bit memories are flooding back :)

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety

      There is no St port. Maybe you're thinking of Pole Position 2.

    • @AtariCrypt
      @AtariCrypt Před 5 lety

      @@RetroCore This one here mate: ataricrypt.blogspot.com/2017/09/pole-position.html

  • @leomon32
    @leomon32 Před 5 lety +1

    I'm pretty sure the announcer was saying "level start" in the Japanese version of Namco Museum on PS1, does they simply cut the Japanese samples ? Because it was in Japanese (now I have to check)

    • @leomon32
      @leomon32 Před 5 lety

      czcams.com/video/hPlsuiVi8X4/video.html confirmed, the sample get lost in the port, so I guess it's "censored"

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety +1

      I'm not sure but it seems strange if they did. Normally they'd just keep them in.

  • @StRoRo
    @StRoRo Před 5 lety +2

    I had the C64 version back in the day and I could never understand the look of the cars. They dont look like F1 cars at all. They look more like the old formula vauxhall cars when they had no rear wing.

  • @bland9876
    @bland9876 Před 5 lety

    I have a disc that has this game on it but it also has a version with slightly different graphics and the ability to select between four different race tracks instead of just this one I'm not sure why both are on there but it's really strange also it's just called pole position 2

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety

      That's because it is Pole Position 2. Different game.

  • @dallase1
    @dallase1 Před 5 lety

    The DOS version looks like you are racing at dusk or it's getting ready to storm real bad.

  • @SteigerHSV
    @SteigerHSV Před 5 lety

    imagine play this on arcade and then buy this for intelevision back home power on and see this... i would simple cry...

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety

      To be fair, back then we knew the home versions would be nothing like the arcade game.

  • @PlayStation_5247
    @PlayStation_5247 Před 5 lety

    I wish Namco would reboot the Pole Position franchise and make it have a real felling of the Formula 1 experience like how Sega's Daytona USA got rebooted with Daytona Championship USA 3

  • @RAMCARTGAMER
    @RAMCARTGAMER Před 5 lety

    Is that the pole position cartoon theme music all spaced out? Love the video as always.
    PS: Imagine F1 cars exploding in this manner on race day due to minor car rubbing.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety +1

      hehe, yep. I originally wanted to use it but CZcams hit me with a copyright strike before the video went live. What's funny is that I uploaded the full version of that song with no copyright hits at all. I really don't understand how the content match works on CZcams.

  • @kelli217
    @kelli217 Před 5 lety +2

    Then you go play GT4 on the Fuji 80's track with the F1 that you unlock from winning Nurburgring, and it's Pole Position all over again. :D

    • @AmyraCarter
      @AmyraCarter Před 4 lety +1

      lolz
      One could do worse; try glitching into Chamonix and racing the Formula on that circuit, lmfao
      (shout out to XTG because they did just that not too long ago xD)

  • @thmalex
    @thmalex Před 5 lety +1

    The JAPANESE PS1 version comes with the voice.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  Před 5 lety +1

      Strange how they removed it from the western release.