It is always interesting to listen to different observations. I don't notice any problems with wind myself. Too much sun and overwatering can always be a problem if you are not careful about placement, taking cultivar into account. A water meter helps tremendously with over or under watering. I have seen trees in other people collections get burnt from 30 yds. away from glare coming off of windows. Having them too close to brick or in ceramic or clay pots on cement can really cause problems as well. It is important to pay close attention to each tree and take into account every aspect of the micro environment they are in. It took the person who had their tree burn due to glare from a window that was 30 yds. away a bit of time to figure out exactly what was going on. Luckily, they figured it out in time to save the tree.
i was just thinking about this yesterday and it appear today on my channel. i didn't even browse it. mindblown~~~ Amazing stuff! you've got the traction going Your channel is improving i see. Bye for now!
Thanks for the video. This is my 1st yr taking care of 17 Acers of various sizes. I am in zone 6a still I had sun damage and wind damage plus some over watering issues I came to the same opinion as yours based on the problems and remedy accordingly. These plants look great but requires constant watching and remedying the conditions/ micro environment if it is getting troublesome.
Thanks for posting and yes it can seem like a mission, but you will gain so much knowledge as time goes on and honestly it gets easier once you get to know your trees. Carl
My Inaba Shidare had lots of sun damage compounded with too much watering, luckily it is recovering now and shooting out new leaves. One thing I leart from Heron's Bonsai is that to remove damaged leaves (sun burnt or wind burnt) or scorched ones, that triggers the plant to shoot new growth in the same season. Patric Chen even removes all leaves of a damaged plant to trigger new second flush of leaves in the same season.
I have just done this to my Trompenberg that I was drowning, so fingers crossed it will feature in a video soon. This technique works, but takes energy out of the trees, so personally I use only in emergencies! I find Inaba Shidare trickier than Crimson Queen or Garnet as it happens. Al the best Carl
Hello! This is my first time seeing your channel- thanks to the algorithm I'm sure, since I continuesly watch a lot of Japanese Maple videos! I live in Texas, USA. And of course, we're closer to the equator, so our sunshine is much harsher. I've also got quite a few Japanese Maples, and have learned a lot about Japanese Maples over the years. And yes, I also have one Japanese Maple that thrives in our hot sun! Maybe some of these things will help in your journey: ▪︎ It's always good to try to mimic the atmosphere of where a plant or tree originally comes from, so it can thrive. Japanese Maples originate in the understory of a jungle. Which is the biggest reason most don't do well in full sun. They prefer the dappled sun that the taller trees above them create. ▪︎ Since you're farther away from the equator, there WILL BE more of them that CAN take more straight sun. It just all depends on the variety. ▪︎ These days they have been bred so often that we now have loads and loads of varieties to choose from. Which makes it easier to pick a certain variety to grow in a certain place & certain conditions. ▪︎ Some grow fast. ▪︎ Some varieties grow extremely slow! ▪︎ Some really HATE growing in containers! ▪︎ Some prefer growing in containers! ▪︎ Some dislike wind very much! ▪︎ Some don't mind wind. ▪︎ I've never heard the theory about grafted vs not grafted having an effect on the amount of sun it can take... But maybe ? Altho, I'm leaning toward it depending on what the variety of J.Maple was grafted on top is, as to whether or not it can take the sun. The root stalk which is used in grafting would have preferences on being grown in a container long term, or in the ground. But hey, I'm keeping my mind open to all ideas! ▪︎ What I DO know is there are only certain varieties that do well in full sun - even our harsh sun here in Texas. But there certainly are MORE varieties of J.Maples that need that dappled sun/shade to really thrive. You mentioned the Bloodgood variety. People over here plant them in full sun, and when they finally do get established in the ground, they grow like gangbusters in the full sun! But until their root systems are established, if they aren't babied, then they don't do well at all. And that has nothing to do with the graft. It only has to do with the roots building a happy life in the soil. There are SO MANY types of J.Maples that it's hard to keep track of them all! I've been following a Japanese Maple grower on You Tube who have their .com website extremely well organized, which makes it a lot easier to find a J.Maple to suit whichever needs you have. Instead if just buying one on the spot, an impulse buy- maybe you would like to look through it, just for research purposes? Here's why I ask- They have a section where you can choose which type of J.Maple suits your needs, all you have to do is pick a category, like this: ▪︎just go to the menu ▪︎ click "Easy Shop" And this is your 1st choice: ▪︎Japanese Maples or ▪︎Ginkgo Trees Choose J.Maples- Then make one of these choices: ● BY COLOR: ▪︎ Red ▪︎ Green ▪︎ Varigated OR ● BY HABIT: ▪︎ Upright OR ▪︎ Weeping OR ● BY MATURE SIZE: ▪︎ Dwarf ▪︎ Medium ▪︎ Large OR ● BY USE: ▪︎ Containers ▪︎ Bonsai ▪︎ Fairy Garden ▪︎ Maples for Shade Trees (Usually the bigger full sun varieties) ▪︎ Winter Interest OR ● BY LIGHT CONDITION ▪︎ Maples for the Sun (Definitely the full sun varieties!) ▪︎ Maples for the Shade OR ● MAPLES BY HARDINESS ZONE: ▪︎ By Plant Hardiness Zone So whichever category you explore has A LOT of different varieties, AND you can then choose which variety will grow best in your conditions. They are also very transparent about whether or not the tree they're selling is grafted, or not. Plus- they have a lot of other helpful information on growing them too. If you have ANY questions about a J.Maple that you already own, you can even email them, with pictures, and they are happy to help!! You don't even have to be one of their customers, they're just very nice people. Granted, you wouldn't be able to buy any of their stock anyway bcuz of customs issues, they're located here in the states. Either in N. Carolina, or South Carolina, I don't remember which. Anyway, I go to their website at least once a week to daydream about which I would buy if I could just buy ANYTHING I wanted!! They also have a weekly You Tube Channel videos where they talk about certain varieties. It's all good! They're called Mr. Maple dot com (I have to write it out bcuz YT won't let me put an actual address in the comments...) The YT channel is by the same name - Mr. Maple But they can definitely help answer any questions you've got.
Thanks for watching and for your input, I have also followed Matt & Tim at Mr Maple for a year or two. Their enthusiasm really shines and they seem like really nice guys. Of course I live in the UK so can't order from them and recommend from personal experience, but they seem like the sort of place I would defiantly try! I do love ordering when Acers are out of leaf during winter as they ship better and I like the surprise of seeing them leaf out the following spring! You make an excellent point that where you live in the world will restrict your choice of what to buy, but its well worth finding cultivars that can work. Also local microclimates can make a real difference so generalisations won't work for every setting. In summary we won't see maples thriving in the Arctic or Sahara dessert, but there are a lot of climates in between! Thanks again. Carl
All acers do horrible above 70 degrees F. You need to keep them in shade if its gets hotter than that, these trees are not genetically programed for hot arid weather, the sugar maple for example is genetically equiped to be tougher
Well said and it's worth remembering that maples are understory plants from a predominatly moderate Japanese climate. The cultivars are selected predominately for their attractiveness rather than hardiness, however some are significantly more tolerant that others. Thanks Carl
I have a bloodgood Japanese maple that I planted in the spring. It gets more sun then it probably should. Especially During this heat wave we’ve had, its leaves are getting crispy and falling off. I water it daily and it’s only gotten worse. After watching this, I’m wondering if it’s wind damage combined with the heat. At this point I think it will lose most if not all it’s leaves unfortunately.
Hi Dan, sorry to here your having problems. If it were just too much sun I would expect the top layer of leaves to scorch on the sunny side of your tree. If all the leaves are more eventually damaged it’s almost certainly wind. Best of luck. Carl
My burns in full sun so I put it under a tree but it leafs started burning again coz of the hot air. So I came to the conclusion that maple trees are not for we’re I live
That’s a shame, it’s much easier to address too much sun and easier to spot too. Wind exposure is tricky, especially as in their natural environment maples live amongst other hardier tree varieties, which offer shelter. If you have a secluded corner available, perhaps try that location. Thanks for the post and best of luck!
Hi, i have a disectum 4 or 5 years old which appeared to have died. I have left it potted and it has subsequently had a tiny clump of leaves low on the trunk. Do you think this is a lost cause or should i give it another season? It is the first one in the video filmed prior to its little spurt? czcams.com/video/lM2gL4Eg2mQ/video.html Cheers
Hi, by a strange coincidence I’ve just uploaded a video comparing a two year old grafted tree to a seedling. Looking at your video, you have several plants in little pots that look like two I bought from a local garden centre. Sad to say one died (phoenix) the other is the Beni Maliki in the video. To be honest for £5 I thought I was getting a bargain, and blamed myself for having a problem! Now I will only buy grafted trees as the others don’t last, typically living a few years before the tree outgrows the root system. I don’t know if this is the case with your 4-5 year old tree but thought I better let you know. The £12.50 plants from Barthelemy in Dorset (can be mail ordered) are the cheapest and properly grafted trees I can find. Sorry if this is disappointing and it angers me that garden centres don’t warn customers that they are buying seedlings not grafted trees. I wonder at the legality of calling trees a specific cultivar, when there not clones of the original! Hope that helps and if this does not relate to the tree you mentioned let me know. Thanks for the question Carl
Great video, but I’m sure most UK potted Japanese Maples have struggled in these recent fiercely hot sunshine conditions. Despite watering them every other day!
A lot of sketchy information here on grated trees being better etc, the Japanese barely use grafted trees as they are not like the original at all, look at deshojo, trident, shishigashira etc to name a few, no problem at all with any acers from Japan or the uk here in my collection and I’m up in central Scotland. Not having a go a yourself btw but when the nursery in Japan that first sold and created the deshojo basically and some of the bonsai masters such as kimura etc saying it is best on its own roots i can’t argue 😅 the truth on grafts is cheap rootstock grafted quickly into new trees for maximum profit
Hi Rob thanks for your input, however I can only reiterate that grafted trees are genetic clones of the original cultivars. Some Acers will do fine on their own roots some will not so the Acer Palmatum Palmatum rootstocks will give them an advantage. The grafts actually take 4-5 years to produce and the only two dedicated maple nurseries in the Uk have used the grafting system for 30+ years with reliable results. Actually the cheap seedlings the supermarkets sell are the fast buck. Lastly I’m not growing Bonsai with a restricted root system rather full grown trees so very a very different situation . All of this is verified by my own experience, yours may be different. Cheers Carl
@@Japanesemaples Carl I’ve many non bonsai maples too :) the grafted tree is only a clone of the parent tree it was taken from not the actual variety as such and can vary a lot depending on many things obviously, many good trees on their own roots are imported then sadly cut up to create as many possibly grafted trees, it’s a big thing in Europe and getting pretty big here in the uk, I’m not anti grafts either I do own a few mainly hupps dwarf, mikawa yatsubusa’s etc but everyone saying a grafted tree is better or stronger isn’t always correct, also 90% of uk maple keepers use totally the wrong soil for them and our weather conditions. I guess however it’s a minefield in many ways and opinions are like arses we all have them lol 😂 I enjoy your videos so hopefully you’re not offended
@@Rob1337 not offended at all and I think we agree on many points., after all if all Acers were grafted there would be no new Cultivars. Your bonsai look fabulous btw! I’m so glad I have found a couple of really good maple nurseries in the Uk and they are quite disparaging of the imported items largely imported from Holland. They have their own stock trees that they take from sparingly and one may have found a red version of Seiryu but won’t be able to sell it for several years until it matures! Your right it’s perfectly possible to grow good trees from seedlings, for me it’s like cars, some brands are statistically better than others, but you often meet people who have no issues. Ironically the Japanese make the best cars too! Have a great week. Carl
you got a lot of beautiful plants and they are healthy
Thank you! I really enjoy them and hope I can help others to avoid the mistakes I have made.
Thanks Carle , very good information.
Glad it was helpful!
Not long come across Chanel loving content and your collection 👌🏽👌🏽
It is always interesting to listen to different observations.
I don't notice any problems with wind myself. Too much sun and overwatering can always be a problem if you are not careful about placement, taking cultivar into account.
A water meter helps tremendously with over or under watering.
I have seen trees in other people collections get burnt from 30 yds. away from glare coming off of windows.
Having them too close to brick or in ceramic or clay pots on cement can really cause problems as well.
It is important to pay close attention to each tree and take into account every aspect of the micro environment they are in.
It took the person who had their tree burn due to glare from a window that was 30 yds. away a bit of time to figure out exactly what was going on. Luckily, they figured it out in time to save the tree.
Totally agree every tree and environment is slightly different. Interesting story about the window! Thanks for posting. Carl
Excellent synopsis. These are typical issue we see daily. Glad you covered the difference between wind, sun and water damage.
Many thanks, I hope it helps others avoid the same issues!
still nice colors
i was just thinking about this yesterday and it appear today on my channel. i didn't even browse it. mindblown~~~ Amazing stuff! you've got the traction going Your channel is improving i see.
Bye for now!
Many thanks, I’m still learning but enjoying the process 👍
Wow, they are my favorite Maple Japanese plants , I absolutely love watching them all .
Thanks for the comment Maya, I fell in love with them years ago and love that people feel the same way!
Thanks for the video. This is my 1st yr taking care of 17 Acers of various sizes. I am in zone 6a still I had sun damage and wind damage plus some over watering issues
I came to the same opinion as yours based on the problems and remedy accordingly. These plants look great but requires constant watching and remedying the conditions/ micro environment if it is getting troublesome.
Thanks for posting and yes it can seem like a mission, but you will gain so much knowledge as time goes on and honestly it gets easier once you get to know your trees. Carl
My Inaba Shidare had lots of sun damage compounded with too much watering, luckily it is recovering now and shooting out new leaves. One thing I leart from Heron's Bonsai is that to remove damaged leaves (sun burnt or wind burnt) or scorched ones, that triggers the plant to shoot new growth in the same season. Patric Chen even removes all leaves of a damaged plant to trigger new second flush of leaves in the same season.
I have just done this to my Trompenberg that I was drowning, so fingers crossed it will feature in a video soon. This technique works, but takes energy out of the trees, so personally I use only in emergencies! I find Inaba Shidare trickier than Crimson Queen or Garnet as it happens. Al the best Carl
Hello!
This is my first time seeing your channel- thanks to the algorithm I'm sure, since I continuesly watch a lot of Japanese Maple videos!
I live in Texas, USA.
And of course, we're closer to the equator, so our sunshine is much harsher.
I've also got quite a few Japanese Maples, and have learned a lot about Japanese Maples over the years.
And yes, I also have one Japanese Maple that thrives in our hot sun!
Maybe some of these things will help in your journey:
▪︎ It's always good to try to mimic the atmosphere of where a plant or tree originally comes from, so it can thrive.
Japanese Maples originate in the understory of a jungle.
Which is the biggest reason most don't do well in full sun.
They prefer the dappled sun that the taller trees above them create.
▪︎ Since you're farther away from the equator, there WILL BE more of them that CAN take more straight sun.
It just all depends on the variety.
▪︎ These days they have been bred so often that we now have loads and loads of varieties to choose from. Which makes it easier to pick a certain variety to grow in a certain place & certain conditions.
▪︎ Some grow fast.
▪︎ Some varieties grow extremely slow!
▪︎ Some really HATE growing in containers!
▪︎ Some prefer growing in containers!
▪︎ Some dislike wind very much!
▪︎ Some don't mind wind.
▪︎ I've never heard the theory about grafted vs not grafted having an effect on the amount of sun it can take...
But maybe ?
Altho, I'm leaning toward it depending on what the variety of J.Maple was grafted on top is, as to whether or not it can take the sun.
The root stalk which is used in grafting would have preferences on being grown in a container long term, or in the ground.
But hey, I'm keeping my mind open to all ideas!
▪︎ What I DO know is there are only certain varieties that do well in full sun - even our harsh sun here in Texas.
But there certainly are MORE varieties of J.Maples that need that dappled sun/shade to really thrive.
You mentioned the Bloodgood variety.
People over here plant them in full sun, and when they finally do get established in the ground, they grow like gangbusters in the full sun!
But until their root systems are established, if they aren't babied, then they don't do well at all. And that has nothing to do with the graft.
It only has to do with the roots building a happy life in the soil.
There are SO MANY types of J.Maples that it's hard to keep track of them all!
I've been following a Japanese Maple grower on You Tube who have their .com website extremely well organized, which makes it a lot easier to find a J.Maple to suit whichever needs you have.
Instead if just buying one on the spot, an impulse buy-
maybe you would like to look through it, just for research purposes?
Here's why I ask-
They have a section where you can choose which type of J.Maple suits your needs,
all you have to do is pick a category,
like this:
▪︎just go to the menu
▪︎ click "Easy Shop"
And this is your 1st choice:
▪︎Japanese Maples
or
▪︎Ginkgo Trees
Choose J.Maples-
Then make one of these choices:
● BY COLOR:
▪︎ Red
▪︎ Green
▪︎ Varigated
OR
● BY HABIT:
▪︎ Upright
OR
▪︎ Weeping
OR
● BY MATURE SIZE:
▪︎ Dwarf
▪︎ Medium
▪︎ Large
OR
● BY USE:
▪︎ Containers
▪︎ Bonsai
▪︎ Fairy Garden
▪︎ Maples for Shade Trees
(Usually the bigger full sun varieties)
▪︎ Winter Interest
OR
● BY LIGHT CONDITION
▪︎ Maples for the Sun
(Definitely the full sun varieties!)
▪︎ Maples for the Shade
OR
● MAPLES BY HARDINESS ZONE:
▪︎ By Plant Hardiness Zone
So whichever category you explore has A LOT of different varieties, AND you can then choose which variety will grow best in your conditions.
They are also very transparent about whether or not the tree they're selling is grafted, or not.
Plus- they have a lot of other helpful information on growing them too.
If you have ANY questions about a J.Maple that you already own, you can even email them, with pictures, and they are happy to help!!
You don't even have to be one of their customers, they're just very nice people.
Granted, you wouldn't be able to buy any of their stock anyway bcuz of customs issues, they're located here in the states. Either in N. Carolina, or South Carolina,
I don't remember which.
Anyway, I go to their website at least once a week to daydream about which I would buy if I could just buy ANYTHING I wanted!!
They also have a weekly You Tube Channel videos where they talk about certain varieties.
It's all good!
They're called
Mr. Maple dot com
(I have to write it out bcuz YT won't let me put an actual address in the comments...)
The YT channel is by the same name - Mr. Maple
But they can definitely help answer any questions you've got.
Thanks for watching and for your input, I have also followed Matt & Tim at Mr Maple for a year or two. Their enthusiasm really shines and they seem like really nice guys. Of course I live in the UK so can't order from them and recommend from personal experience, but they seem like the sort of place I would defiantly try! I do love ordering when Acers are out of leaf during winter as they ship better and I like the surprise of seeing them leaf out the following spring! You make an excellent point that where you live in the world will restrict your choice of what to buy, but its well worth finding cultivars that can work. Also local microclimates can make a real difference so generalisations won't work for every setting. In summary we won't see maples thriving in the Arctic or Sahara dessert, but there are a lot of climates in between! Thanks again. Carl
All acers do horrible above 70 degrees F. You need to keep them in shade if its gets hotter than that, these trees are not genetically programed for hot arid weather, the sugar maple for example is genetically equiped to be tougher
Well said and it's worth remembering that maples are understory plants from a predominatly moderate Japanese climate. The cultivars are selected predominately for their attractiveness rather than hardiness, however some are significantly more tolerant that others. Thanks Carl
Hi i have acer shirasawanum , last week i diskovered black spots on the leaves
I have a bloodgood Japanese maple that I planted in the spring. It gets more sun then it probably should. Especially During this heat wave we’ve had, its leaves are getting crispy and falling off. I water it daily and it’s only gotten worse. After watching this, I’m wondering if it’s wind damage combined with the heat. At this point I think it will lose most if not all it’s leaves unfortunately.
Hi Dan, sorry to here your having problems. If it were just too much sun I would expect the top layer of leaves to scorch on the sunny side of your tree. If all the leaves are more eventually damaged it’s almost certainly wind. Best of luck. Carl
My burns in full sun so I put it under a tree but it leafs started burning again coz of the hot air. So I came to the conclusion that maple trees are not for we’re I live
That’s a shame, it’s much easier to address too much sun and easier to spot too. Wind exposure is tricky, especially as in their natural environment maples live amongst other hardier tree varieties, which offer shelter. If you have a secluded corner available, perhaps try that location. Thanks for the post and best of luck!
Hi, i have a disectum 4 or 5 years old which appeared to have died. I have left it potted and it has subsequently had a tiny clump of leaves low on the trunk. Do you think this is a lost cause or should i give it another season? It is the first one in the video filmed prior to its little spurt? czcams.com/video/lM2gL4Eg2mQ/video.html
Cheers
Hi, by a strange coincidence I’ve just uploaded a video comparing a two year old grafted tree to a seedling. Looking at your video, you have several plants in little pots that look like two I bought from a local garden centre. Sad to say one died (phoenix) the other is the Beni Maliki in the video. To be honest for £5 I thought I was getting a bargain, and blamed myself for having a problem! Now I will only buy grafted trees as the others don’t last, typically living a few years before the tree outgrows the root system. I don’t know if this is the case with your 4-5 year old tree but thought I better let you know. The £12.50 plants from Barthelemy in Dorset (can be mail ordered) are the cheapest and properly grafted trees I can find. Sorry if this is disappointing and it angers me that garden centres don’t warn customers that they are buying seedlings not grafted trees. I wonder at the legality of calling trees a specific cultivar, when there not clones of the original! Hope that helps and if this does not relate to the tree you mentioned let me know. Thanks for the question Carl
Just to add that some trees might do well like Bloodgood but success rates will be poor compared to a grafted tree.
Great video, but I’m sure most UK potted Japanese Maples have struggled in these recent fiercely hot sunshine conditions. Despite watering them every other day!
Its been a challenge, but also a great opportunity to learn. Thanks for watching!
A lot of sketchy information here on grated trees being better etc, the Japanese barely use grafted trees as they are not like the original at all, look at deshojo, trident, shishigashira etc to name a few, no problem at all with any acers from Japan or the uk here in my collection and I’m up in central Scotland. Not having a go a yourself btw but when the nursery in Japan that first sold and created the deshojo basically and some of the bonsai masters such as kimura etc saying it is best on its own roots i can’t argue 😅 the truth on grafts is cheap rootstock grafted quickly into new trees for maximum profit
Hi Rob thanks for your input, however I can only reiterate that grafted trees are genetic clones of the original cultivars. Some Acers will do fine on their own roots some will not so the Acer Palmatum Palmatum rootstocks will give them an advantage. The grafts actually take 4-5 years to produce and the only two dedicated maple nurseries in the Uk have used the grafting system for 30+ years with reliable results. Actually the cheap seedlings the supermarkets sell are the fast buck. Lastly I’m not growing Bonsai with a restricted root system rather full grown trees so very a very different situation . All of this is verified by my own experience, yours may be different. Cheers Carl
@@Japanesemaples Carl I’ve many non bonsai maples too :) the grafted tree is only a clone of the parent tree it was taken from not the actual variety as such and can vary a lot depending on many things obviously, many good trees on their own roots are imported then sadly cut up to create as many possibly grafted trees, it’s a big thing in Europe and getting pretty big here in the uk, I’m not anti grafts either I do own a few mainly hupps dwarf, mikawa yatsubusa’s etc but everyone saying a grafted tree is better or stronger isn’t always correct, also 90% of uk maple keepers use totally the wrong soil for them and our weather conditions. I guess however it’s a minefield in many ways and opinions are like arses we all have them lol 😂 I enjoy your videos so hopefully you’re not offended
@@Rob1337 not offended at all and I think we agree on many points., after all if all Acers were grafted there would be no new Cultivars. Your bonsai look fabulous btw! I’m so glad I have found a couple of really good maple nurseries in the Uk and they are quite disparaging of the imported items largely imported from Holland. They have their own stock trees that they take from sparingly and one may have found a red version of Seiryu but won’t be able to sell it for several years until it matures! Your right it’s perfectly possible to grow good trees from seedlings, for me it’s like cars, some brands are statistically better than others, but you often meet people who have no issues. Ironically the Japanese make the best cars too! Have a great week. Carl
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Lots of small things add up to great trees