NEVE 88M - Any Good???

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  • čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
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Komentáře • 256

  • @draztiqmeshaz6226
    @draztiqmeshaz6226 Před rokem +9

    You're literally the first person I've ever seen have trouble using an RME interface.
    That NEVE sounds real good tho, thanks for sharing.

  • @thehowlingterror
    @thehowlingterror Před rokem +17

    RME UCX for me is the best. Always reliable, always getting driver updates. It's been always on for the past decade. Cannot fault it.

    • @Lexxo777
      @Lexxo777 Před rokem

      agree, Identical situation here, near a decade, flawless on MAC and PC.

    • @jsaproductions5
      @jsaproductions5 Před rokem

      yup- RME Fireface 802 in my rack and Babyface on the road- rock solid and you could hammer nails with it {not Recommended}

  • @christdolphin69
    @christdolphin69 Před rokem +3

    your grandfather sounds incredible. i would have loved someone like that in my life

  • @thorstenweimar1190
    @thorstenweimar1190 Před rokem +4

    Great review! I cannot agree more 👍
    First things first: One of the most amazing features of this unit is that it has got channel inserts. Those two channel inserts (one on the left and one on the right channel) are placed before the converters. That’s very important, because you can actually insert hardware (compression etc.) and drive the signal hot. This way you really get the advantages of the transformers and give your sound saturation to taste. And because the channel inserts are placed before the converters, driving the transformers hot doesn’t clip your converters. That’s really unique for a two channel desktop interface. This alone makes it stand out from the rest.
    Example: You can insert an Elysia Xpressor Qube which on the more neutral side, drive the transformers of the 88M hot and the Xpressor sound turns into colorful and more characterful. Amazing!
    Everyone is different, I had an UCX II...I returned it. Did some vocals and accoustic guitar recordings, tried the headphone amp, conversion...I mean it's a professional device.
    The UCXII is clean and bright, the Apollo x4 a bit harsh in high midths and highs. The M88 is smooth with a nice bottom end and midths. The high frequencies are never harsh. It’s sound is open, wide and big.
    But I love my 88M, because it has that 70's sound, a kind of smoothness, great mids and bass. It's always easier to mix if you have a cohesive sound. And the 88M delivers a bit of a glue to all the recorded channels, it has a nice character to it. A special sound. Of course it's not only the transformers but also the conversion chips they use.
    I feel more inspired to work with that a bit "old fashioned" device, just plug and play, never have to update drivers. Just sound!

  • @user-hx2xu6ej1m
    @user-hx2xu6ej1m Před 8 měsíci +2

    As a voice actor, I purchased the Neve 88m for it's simplicity. I need one pro-grade mono channel. That's it. Any sonic treatments will be added in the DAW (which, for me, is Reaper). It's lack of bells and whistles is a huge plus for me. And, being a Neve, the guts of the thing are top-shelf. Besides my Neumann u87ai, my Neve 88m is the next best investment I've ever made to my studio.

    • @angelvox1603
      @angelvox1603 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Did the M88 make a big difference in the sound quality of your U87? I have that mic and was considering the M88 for a mic pre upgrade.

  • @imaxy00
    @imaxy00 Před rokem +2

    NEVE 88M is a Class Complaint audio device, the reason it doesn't require drivers is that it's very simple from USB ADC/DAC POV . OSs nowadays provide built in drivers for Class Compliant USB audio devices. RME baby face is much more complex product , which requires drivers to unleash it's DSP and other routing functions , however it also can be booted in to Class Compliant mode , where you won't need to download or install any drivers , but you won't have an access to all the Total Mix routing capabilities. Taken form Babyface manual : Activation of the Class Compliant mode: Hold down the Select and Recall button while the Babyface
    boots. So press both buttons while connecting the Babyface to USB buspower. The level meters will
    run up, confirming CC mode is activated. The Babyface stays in CC mode until this procedure is
    repeated. With only one LED on left and right side lit during power-on, the Babyface is in normal
    mode.

  • @eyesintheskies
    @eyesintheskies Před 21 dnem

    Love the simplicity of this, just what I’ve been looking for pristine top quality preamps but no software to leave me baffled.
    Really nice elegant design. A couple of pads would be handy but hay bonus inserts kinda makes up for that.

  • @marcomarrone174
    @marcomarrone174 Před rokem +3

    Thanks as always Christian!! So glad you'll be doing more videos, we need you!

  • @joolm4976
    @joolm4976 Před rokem +1

    Thx, you convinced me. I was looking at that Neve because it's exactly the kind of product I'm looking for. That's the first product with that philosophy. High end preamp with analog inserts, direct into great converters.
    No messy routing sofware.
    Waiting for it, I'll post my impressions soon.

    • @joolm4976
      @joolm4976 Před rokem +1

      Stunning sound. Plug and play. I recorded my Martin guitar this morning with some vocals. It sounds gorgeous

  • @David-nu5cj
    @David-nu5cj Před rokem +1

    This was a great review. I was sitting on the fence but this is now my next interface. Thanks Christian.

  • @MrPlayerPerson
    @MrPlayerPerson Před rokem +4

    I agree, quality in equals quality out. Companies like Neve, Neumann, AKG, Lexicon, Eventide as examples make quality equipment that last for decades and you can hear the difference in the recordings. Also, quality equipment are ready to go, especially in recording sessions, they are truly "Plug & Play" and keep the work-flow going when "time crunch" crucial. Great review Christian, I love your You Tube videos, I learn a lot.

    • @NOLASkaGuitarist
      @NOLASkaGuitarist Před 6 měsíci

      Yep, debated this interface for a while but ended up with the Neumann MT48, fantastic interface with great pres and headphone amps.

  • @anthonystahl
    @anthonystahl Před rokem +9

    Personally, I love my SSL 2+. Seems like the size and weight of this are preferable to the Neve. Can't beat the price point either.Granted it doesn't have the extra ADAT ins, but it does have a second set of outs and a 2nd headphone output. Drives my DT990 Pro fairly well. Also love the 4K circuitry for adding a little sparkle. Just heard they came out with the 12.

  • @babakismusic
    @babakismusic Před rokem +1

    I've been monitoring your consistent portable rig videos for years now and I'm so grateful for this one. I bought the NI m32 based on your rec. Thanks!

  • @evallesg
    @evallesg Před rokem +3

    Hi Christian, I just "discovered" you today, and this is the first rewiew I seen for the 88N, great job!
    I'm a longtime Babyfaces user, I've owned all the versions of this little marvelous piece of engineering. Been through the first version of it, with that horrendous breakout cable, (of which I bought a second one "just in case"), then the Babyface Pro and finally the Pro fs which I bought right before the Covid19 affair, when it was almost already impossible to find, very luckily I got a second hand one (crazy guy who sold it) so I belive that my unit has the AKM chips in it and not the ones I think they have nowadays, the ESS ones.
    I also have an UAD Apollo Twin, the USB version, so as you might understand I'm a Windows user (all time user, since Windows 1.04, if my memory doesn't betray me!) For the Apollo's there are out of the box some NEVE emulations which work pretty well for my needs, but hey ... curiosity killed the cat! and I'm curious about the 88M. The big question is, sonically how the three might compare?
    I'll subscribe to your channel right now!

  • @NickMcC
    @NickMcC Před rokem +1

    "This bad...*checks the back* boy" 😂

  • @Simeon_Harris
    @Simeon_Harris Před rokem +11

    the mono mix feature will be very useful for guitarists who use two mics on a guitar cab and want to blend them together before they hit the daw.

  • @LBJedi
    @LBJedi Před rokem +2

    This has made me so happy because my 88M is on its way already! Just waiting for Neve to get their shipment to Sweetwater.

  • @GingerDrums
    @GingerDrums Před rokem +59

    Edit: rant ahead, and nothing against Christian, bless him, but I can't stand for the best and most stable interface drivers (RME) being compared unfavourably to a brand new prosumer interface just because Christian couldn't install a driver ONCE. They still support fireface 400 interfaces they sold 20 years ago for heaven's sake. Sorry but I'd trust RME at my post facility after 20 years of flawless performance over anything with less that 5 years of constant use. The fact that you are not mainly and engineer is really showing here! Sorry if this seems ranty and I don't mean to sound like an RME fanboy. I'd do the same if somebody decided Sound Devices or any other tried and tested grown-up tools we not to their personal taste relative to something brand new aimed clearly at the prosumer market. On the flip side, the NEVE logo does look pretty... But for the money the Audient budget interfaces offer the same connectivity and better measurements for a tenth of the price... Neve don't even specify the wheighting of the measurements on their website... If I want a Neve pre, I can just plug one in... And that Neve pre would have propper headroom and conditioning.

    • @weareallbeingwatched4602
      @weareallbeingwatched4602 Před rokem +1

      I have had big problems with RME on mac, and had a few devices which were to all intents and purposes basically bricked and non-functioning.

    • @GingerDrums
      @GingerDrums Před rokem +2

      @@weareallbeingwatched4602 good to know! of course I'm not suggesting infallability, only relative reliability based on industry standard practise and consensus as I have understood it. My point is only that one of the most trusted drivers in the industry, (granted nothing is perfect) cannot be compared unfavourably to not needing a driver at, all as if this were a bit selling point. Otherwise the issues with not having the same headroom and electricity conditioning on 1k of preamps seems questionable. I'm open to being convinced otherwise here though.

    • @socksincrocks
      @socksincrocks Před rokem +3

      @@weareallbeingwatched4602 Sorry to hear that. I've had 15 years of RME on OSX through Mac Pros and MBPs. FF800 died after 11 years of flawless, heavy daily performance, and my FF802 has had zero issues since I upgraded to it.

    • @weareallbeingwatched4602
      @weareallbeingwatched4602 Před rokem

      @@socksincrocks none of the DAW systems are particularly reliable, in all honesty. Hence JoeCo.

    • @_kortiko_
      @_kortiko_ Před rokem +1

      Had FF400 for 12 years, used it on Mac and PC, sold it just so i can use USB instead of FW, and now i’m using FF UC, so i can just confirm everything you said about RME. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @donsantiago1
    @donsantiago1 Před rokem +9

    Rme has a class compliant mode.

  • @tihinter
    @tihinter Před rokem +6

    Great to see this box and thanx for this great video. Just 2 things: the reason why RME has driver troubles lately arises from Apple. RME never had any problems, neighter on PC nor on Mac until about 2 years ago. 2nd, I’d say that those preamps don’t sound like that RS88 console at all. I’ve mixed on a RS88 console and I own an AMS 88RS preamp module. Nothing out there sounds like the desk. There are just too many components interacting. The PSU, the neighbouring circuitry per channel, the summing structure and so on. And 88 doesn’t sound warm tomy ears at all. It is the cleanest and most transparent sound you could get from Neve. Not as clean as Grace or Millennia, but quite detailed and bright somehow. I love that sound for recording upright bass, therefore. Just my 2ct…

  • @michelvanderwall8710
    @michelvanderwall8710 Před rokem +1

    awesome box! thanks. regards from switzerland

  • @SantoMachismo
    @SantoMachismo Před rokem

    I've been using RME for the last five years now and just switched from Windows to MacOS.
    Downloaded the appropriate driver from the website. Installed it. Downloaded TotalMix. Installed it. Turned the MacBook off. Comnected the interface. Turned MacBook back on and it's working without any problem.
    No witchcraft required.

  • @BreaktheMachine
    @BreaktheMachine Před rokem +1

    Quality interface and a superb and helpful video.

  • @yigidy
    @yigidy Před rokem +2

    Audio interfaces can be almost as unique as the people that use them. Price and your studio budget, the number of inputs required, headphone jacks, digital I/O, interface type (USB 2 or 3 or Thunderbolt), monitor options and even PC/Mac/iOS or Mobile use can be considerations. That Neve 88M kit looks interesting but personally for the price the Steinberg UR-RT series seem to tick the “upgraded neve preamp” box without sacrificing the form factor and portability of other portable interfaces. One can “dream” of a UA, Presonus or this new Neve but doing your best with the tools you have is often the best strategy. The best camera is the one that works and is with you to take your photo after all.

  • @elowine
    @elowine Před rokem +14

    I kinda missed any mention about latency. The thing with RME (on Windows!) is that the interface offers a spectacular low latency compared to pretty much every other brand out there.
    If you are work with samples, sampled instruments or software synths this might be the most important thing your interface can offer you. Nice video tho :)

    • @timandtheocean
      @timandtheocean Před rokem +2

      less important for sample, vsti based. even more for tracking real instruments or synths

    • @elowine
      @elowine Před rokem

      @@timandtheocean Yep that too! I meant when you use a midi keyboard in combination with sampled instruments or synths you really want low latency. On Mac latency might be less of an issues because of how audio drivers work differently I don't really have experience with that.

  • @Bthelick
    @Bthelick Před rokem +5

    I've ran RME gear for 2 decades and never had an issue (also because they support their products and drivers for as long), Though the RME is indeed high quality I actually use them over higher end equipment for the very reason of their software, it's reliability and its flexibility. I'm shocked you weren't even able to get a signal, I would be tempted to blame apple on this one.
    Also while we are on the subject I'll bet Neve don't make their own USB chips and use FPGAs inside like RME do, which is what enables them to have futureproof drivers for standards that don't exist yet.
    I wager the Neve Like every other USB interface will lose support after a few years.

    • @GingerDrums
      @GingerDrums Před rokem +2

      BUMP. I do advertising post-production and trust RME over anything else in high pressure situations. Comparing that to a bus powered gimmick with NEVE written on it really rubs me the wrong way. Also 20 years of flawless performance over here!

  • @TheHonestTruth
    @TheHonestTruth Před rokem +1

    This was such a cool video man. Really well done

  • @ididitforthemusic
    @ididitforthemusic Před rokem +4

    I've had my 88M for a while now and I absolutely love it - those preamps are DELICIOUS!

  • @Andreaux
    @Andreaux Před rokem

    Neve hasn't exactly started to manufacture audio gear yesterday :) They know what they're doing. We use Neve preamps alongside Neumann ones to drive mics and we love them. As for a daily driver Audio Interfaces, I have the Focusrite Scarlet 18i20 and it also doesn't need any driver on Mac and I love that. They have a mixer software for sure, but you can totally use it without installing anything and that's good! Way to go other manufacturers :)

  • @Lantertronics
    @Lantertronics Před rokem +4

    Have to give a shoutout to RME: I'm using a Fireface 800 from 2004 I think, on a Mac M1 with native silicon drivers that RME *still* keeps up to date.

    • @jsaproductions5
      @jsaproductions5 Před rokem +1

      yeah RME is a work horse- rock solid- have a fireface in my rack and a babyface for the road

  • @fotomaton7852
    @fotomaton7852 Před rokem +2

    I'm on UAD so no horse in the race but was also surprised with the RME rant as their reputation is solid in terms of drivers. And while I have no doubt the pros on the 88M are top notch (its a Neve!) I'm personally not a fan of USB only powered interfaces. My UA interfaces work in standalone with almost zero latency and that's what I love about them. With the 88M you pay for the pres but it looks like an otherwise entry-level prosumer audio interface..

  • @murraywebster1228
    @murraywebster1228 Před rokem +4

    You didn’t have the BABYFACE in class compliant mode, then it’s plug and play on Apple……..

  • @christoroppolo8742
    @christoroppolo8742 Před rokem +1

    I love my focus rite 18i scarlet but this was so soothing as always and informative .👽

    • @roman2374
      @roman2374 Před 2 měsíci

      Same - I’m considering to get this for my mobile setup and keep most stuff wired to my 18i in the studio and connect via ADAT when needed

  • @rhode6354
    @rhode6354 Před rokem +2

    I got my first proper outboard pres this year - Rupert Neve Designs 5025 and A-Designs Pacifica. Both make an absolute world of difference when it comes to working on material - as you said, it’s just easier.

  • @GooberNumber9
    @GooberNumber9 Před rokem +1

    I recently picked up the SSL Big SiX and it has the same awesome feature as the 88M - no drivers needed! (on Mac) Just plug it in, and it's there. It does have Neve pres but the SSL pres are not a disappointment. It's not at all portable, though.

  • @Fernandoorejudo
    @Fernandoorejudo Před 7 měsíci

    Well, I’ve just adquired one of these puppies just because of its preamps and converters, but I really doubt RME could ever disappoint anyone. Their drivers are the best of the best and they sound really good. As good as Neves? No. That’s the real deal. However, I’d rather rely on RME drivers than any other manufacturer. I have a first generation Babyface, that’s why.

  • @algarvemike
    @algarvemike Před rokem +1

    I’m amazed at your negative experience with RME Babyface Pro. I have been using our me audio interfaces professionally for over 15 years now. They offer amazing support, and I have never had a single issue with any of them. They even support firewire currently with a drivers. To my astonishment, I find all of her army users have the same experience. I’ve got a hair full expensive details of the issues. You have a baby face pro. Perhaps they are to do with the new Apple M1/M2 chipset.? I’m very surprised.

  • @newman2374
    @newman2374 Před rokem

    100 agree this product is outclass i get mine and huge diffrance between others ❤

  • @LightsandMotion
    @LightsandMotion Před rokem

    Neve is the master of the preamp domain, simple as that. I have a 2 channel 73´unit with EQ that is fantastic, especially since driven hard. It's the additive effect over an entire mix that really makes the difference though

  • @KarlBate
    @KarlBate Před rokem

    That Irish guy flash frame, how 80's. Made me chuckle

  • @Rialas
    @Rialas Před rokem +2

    For M1 Macs “Allow user management of kernel extensions from identified developers”. That’ll sort out why you weren’t able to get the RME to work. Simple to do.
    RME hardware/software is just the best.

    • @GingerDrums
      @GingerDrums Před rokem

      Not to mention the routing flexibility and UX. Real tools for high pressure environments!

  • @mikebruns8839
    @mikebruns8839 Před rokem +23

    Generally like your videos, but I agree about RME rant. Don't know what happened, but RME have made amazing driver and control software for decades. They're top of the heap for making hardware and software work together. Also, if you'd read the manual and put your interface in class compliant mode, it would've shown up just like Neve (albeit with none of the features in their amazing TotalMix software). Rant over.

    • @GuidoQuinceMaat
      @GuidoQuinceMaat Před rokem +13

      Had to read that twice, I guess you meant to write 'Disagree?'

  • @BeepBoopAudio
    @BeepBoopAudio Před rokem +22

    I'm so jealous of everyone that is able to go to the composer walks. I would love to join you, but it's quite far away. One of these days I'll fly across the Atlantic and make sure it lines up with a composer walk. Hope everyone has a fun time!

    • @andywhelan946
      @andywhelan946 Před rokem +3

      Why not start a local one? :)

    • @ayisa001
      @ayisa001 Před rokem +1

      same here, putting down a few hundred euro's for a flight and hotel just seems a bit wrong these days.. Love to organize one here in Amsterdam, just say the word..

    • @mrnelsonius5631
      @mrnelsonius5631 Před rokem

      He did one in LA a year ago, I was signed up and kept the day open… and a medical emergency kept me from going! 😩. I’m fine physically now but it definitely hurt my soul a bit to miss it. Hopeful I’ll get another opportunity and same to you 🙏🌞

  • @mattematrix
    @mattematrix Před rokem

    happy to see that you have little puppy in charge of the cable management

  • @youcantdothisjack
    @youcantdothisjack Před rokem

    I'm an owner of one of these and love it. I'm pretty sure in the Neve 88m video, they said that you can power it independently, with a powered USB 3 hub. You can use guitar pedals on the DIs. and 19" rack, 500 Series, to the the mic, line, or which ever. It is simple, but flexible for the limited set you get. May it have headroom issues with a DI'd active pick-up shredder, yes, however, if you send it to a compressor, that problem goes away, and it becomes a way to use the extreme distortion without clipping the converters, and just normalizing in the DAW. Should a 10-20db pad be on the MKII, YES, but those things can be solved with gain staging, and a compressor on the s/r. I can't tell you how many interfaces I've used, probably over 9, and this one just works. It's all I wanted in the first place, as a home recording engineer, looking for quality. The Audient almost got me, because I wanted sends and returns on my interface, but I jumped at the chance to own a Neve instead. A decision of the heart. Cheers, thanks for the awesome video!

  • @von_Apa
    @von_Apa Před rokem

    I love your passion for what you are doing, and yes, I will get this unit!

  • @robasselstine4122
    @robasselstine4122 Před rokem +1

    All NEVE products are great - I started my career (early 70's) working with a NEVE 8 track board, souped up to 16 so I've been spoiled since the beginning.

  • @dyonight
    @dyonight Před rokem +6

    RME not good at software?? Well that's the first time I heard that one... Glad you found the interface that suite you though!

    • @TheCrowHillCo
      @TheCrowHillCo  Před rokem

      Well my “not good” is “I can’t figure out how it works” and I’m fairly well versed in music software.

    • @dyonight
      @dyonight Před rokem

      @@TheCrowHillCo fair enonugh! The neve is obviously a great interface! cheers!

    • @bent513
      @bent513 Před rokem +3

      @@TheCrowHillCo I went through this same issue yesterday. It turned out that RME software wouldn't recognize the hardware if there was another program using core audio in the background. In my case UA Console fired up in the background after a restart. My guess is that if you disconnect the Neve and make sure nothing else is running in the background the RME software will fire up. Not saying that's good design, but that's how I got around the issue.

    • @avsystem3142
      @avsystem3142 Před rokem +4

      Never had any software issues with an RME Fireface 800 on either Windows 10 or 11.

    • @dyonight
      @dyonight Před rokem +1

      @@avsystem3142 My experience as well! Never a single hickup!

  • @samshrimpton407
    @samshrimpton407 Před rokem +2

    If I didn’t already have an Apollo Twin, I’d jump on one of these. Bit big and a bit pricey, but actual Neve 88RS preamps!!!! 🤯 Can’t make the walk again -But hopefully I will one year!

  • @ryanshook8284
    @ryanshook8284 Před rokem +4

    RME

  • @emmomartins5383
    @emmomartins5383 Před rokem +1

    no comparisson to rme and total mix. always installed in 3 minutes, never a problem. I have two Firefaces. The UCXII is just awsome.

  • @charleshuguley9903
    @charleshuguley9903 Před rokem +2

    In my experience RME drivers are excellent and reliable.

  • @lizlangauraceneenvellum8716

    Per Neve video, the 88M can run as stand-alone using a power supply to USB cable. SO you can use it just for its pres! They chose that specific USB connector so it wouldn't break as easily as a USB-C if knocked about. I'm using an old Motu Ultralite so I'm seriously considering how much of a jump up this would be in terms of sound quality. RME Babyface Pro also in the running.

  • @TheTravisBeck
    @TheTravisBeck Před rokem

    I wish they gave us an AC power option. Especially if it will be stationary in your studio. Its just more flexible. Down the road the particular USB style will become archaic. Something better will come out.
    Ive also heard there has been an issue with clipping, especially when recording high gain guitars, etc…a pad button would benefit on the unit, instead of having to do it on your in.
    Its a beautiful unit, I just hope they add those options. You want these options for $1200.

  • @michaelhills6117
    @michaelhills6117 Před rokem

    Miss these videos so much

  • @antoniog2854
    @antoniog2854 Před rokem +1

    Loving my Apogee Symphony Desktop. Stunning quality and works seamlessly with Logic Pro.

  • @LBJedi
    @LBJedi Před rokem +1

    Christian/ Christian’s social person,
    I’m the same vain as this video, many of us are working on tge go, so most often in untreated spaces. Would love to see a video on Christians current favorite headphones for composing/rough mixing his music. Cheers!

  • @willswitchcraft
    @willswitchcraft Před rokem +1

    Nice, but I want to hear some serious comparisons, between other options.....but more importantly, with many diverse program inputs, hard transients, combinations of sound sounds (both nuanced and more dramatic) simultaneously being converted.......some way to hear the Mic Pre with a direct A/B comparison to other interfaces, etc.

  • @OperculumAudio
    @OperculumAudio Před rokem +1

    How does this Interface work for Punchy electronic and hip hop music?

  • @weschilton
    @weschilton Před rokem

    Why am I not surprised that Neve would come out with something like this... really impressive, but not surprising coming from Neve.

  • @issiewizzie
    @issiewizzie Před rokem +1

    I’m trying to imagine 5000 people showing up for the composer walk❤

  • @b.hornetiii.6771
    @b.hornetiii.6771 Před rokem +1

    Great video. Would you say it's O.K. to put through the whole mix (into the computer of course for final mastering) from external workstation for coloring (line IN - adding a little of extra gain)?

  • @jimsanger
    @jimsanger Před rokem +2

    Doesn't look too portable by my definition but the preamps are very tempting. It's a much more streamlined way of recording.
    I have an audient that also has the same preamps as their big desks I'm pretty happy with., especially for the price.

    • @GingerDrums
      @GingerDrums Před rokem +2

      The Audient converters also null after literally hundreds of passthroughs. Infact, hilariously, they are better at nulling on repeat passthroughs than the Araura converter at 10x the price. The pres are clean and sound great, loads of gain. In 2022 there is no reason to "upgrade" from something that measures essentially perfectly. Clients don't care. Just grab a coloured pre if needed and whack it into a line in on your Audient. The Camden 500 pre would be my tip, 300 quid, designed in London and I prefer it to the Shelford channel ;). They also measure insanely well!

  • @ardieson4542
    @ardieson4542 Před rokem

    thanks Christian

  • @kevinlong4657
    @kevinlong4657 Před rokem +1

    Update on the Neve 88m? I've been considering it for ultra-mobile recording of acoustic guitar and vocals.

  • @keiththeodosiou
    @keiththeodosiou Před rokem +1

    Mmm looks interesting although I did recently purchase a Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 which I do like.Just one other question, did you write that piano music in this video cos I really do like that?

  • @StirfriedGerman
    @StirfriedGerman Před rokem +1

    There's no way to drive the preamps a bit harder, that would require an attenuator on the insert. In any case the device is cheaper than 2 separate 88 pres from AMS Neve, even if you don't use the interface functionality. Waiting for the 73 variant :D

    • @Ancaja123
      @Ancaja123 Před rokem +2

      Well it is certainly a key feature that it has inserts on the back. A compressor inserted will allow you to drive them all the way

  • @YMESYDT
    @YMESYDT Před rokem +2

    I may be in the minority but I’d love to see a high end minimalist composing/recording rig if we have more to spend but still live on the road

  • @garyliddon
    @garyliddon Před rokem +1

    For some reason, after watching this video I want to go out and buy a dachshund

  • @DutchFreeman
    @DutchFreeman Před rokem +2

    The USB 3.x B connection is backward compatible, so you can use a normal USB (printer) cable on it. It might influence performance, but you should test that.

  • @neilanderson9151
    @neilanderson9151 Před rokem

    Thanks Christian.

  • @christiankjrbl8397
    @christiankjrbl8397 Před rokem

    Was I daft for expecting Christian to return on the Spitfire channel in the new year? The ramp up on this channel makes that seem unlikely. I'm here for all of it either way.

  • @jakubpodesva9802
    @jakubpodesva9802 Před rokem +1

    This is very similar to my Sound Devices USB Pre 2. But mine has XLR outputs, also works without driver and even you don't have to plug it into socket - it is powered via USB, so you can capture two mic's into your laptop wherever you need for some time... Oh and it has analog limiters on inputs before conversion! Stellar quality but it isn't Neve though :)

  • @subs4794
    @subs4794 Před rokem +3

    I hope Behringer's clone is a lot smaller and nicer looking.

  • @ManCalledMif
    @ManCalledMif Před rokem +1

    Hi Christian. How does the quality compare to the apogee duet? Cheers

  • @SenXu
    @SenXu Před rokem +1

    I am having trouble justifying the price because SSL 2+ also comes from similar professional gear manufacturer but without the high price tag. Oh yes and it's more portable. oh and it's USB C cable. oh and it's also plug and play.
    So where are the differences? Is it mainly the number of IO? Or is it truly just more musical if recorded from Neve 88M vs say, SSL2+? I am eager to learn.

  • @blankspace0000
    @blankspace0000 Před rokem

    Cool that you pointed out the usb cable thing. It always annoys me as well when you get devices with whacky rare usb connections lol.

    • @jsaproductions5
      @jsaproductions5 Před rokem

      not sure if this a UK thing- that USB cord is used on most printers, most keyboards, and other sound modules- very easy to get and very common

  • @rodrigopandelo
    @rodrigopandelo Před rokem

    Hey there, Chris! See if you could take some time to help me!
    At this moment, I have a SSL SiX mixer to help me with a little of EQ and compression on the way in, and I use a SSL2 as an audio interface. I would like to upgrade it, and since I mostly record vocals and acoustic guitar at the same time, I use only 2 inputs, and need only 2 preamps.
    I use a Martin HD28 and a Cordoba C10 as acoustic guitars, and I have a little nice mics setup (Neumanns KMS105, u87, a pair of KM184, DPA 2028 (I wanna grab myself a d:Facto for the lower noise floor) and 4099, and a beautiful Sennheiser MD441 (love that on vocals... so thick sounding!). I wanna get myself a Beyerdynamic 160 to record acoustic guitar and pair it with the 441 for a more vintage vibe. My room is not well treated, and you can hear a few of my home live recordings here, on czcams.com/users/rodrigopandelo
    I was thinking about upgrade my audio interface, and since here in Brazil it is hard to put the hands on some high end equipment, I would like to know if you could help me.
    I saw the 88m video, and I fell in love with it. But I don't know if it worth the price tag for my purposes.
    The idea would be to use the preamps of it, and route the two analog channels of the SiX for a little EQ and compression, then back to the Neve, then into the computer. Maybe, with that, I could mostly do the mix out the box, and use the plugins only for creativity purposes, with little corrective stuff.
    The other option would be exactly something like the RME Babyface. My question is if I could benefit from the 88M sound for only vocals and acoustic guitar recordings.
    Thank you so much!

  • @JamesButcher
    @JamesButcher Před rokem +1

    Looking forward to more vids Christian!
    wow, that piano sounds lovely through the Neve!

  • @RicardoDavilaOficial
    @RicardoDavilaOficial Před rokem +1

    Have you had any issues with the DI input with the Neve? There is a video from Spectral Sounds where even when lowering the DI input gain all the way down the converters still clip.

  • @LeeGee
    @LeeGee Před rokem +1

    Sounds as good as its price indicated it might.

  • @jaccochrysler
    @jaccochrysler Před rokem +2

    Thanks for the video! RME support is wonderful and they keep updating firmware, even on older interfaces. This is a big advantage for me. I hate that the UAD interfaces need to be updated all the time to even keep working. Apogee loses support every generation. Recently we had to abandon a whole rack of Apogee interfaces only because they lost support. I hope that Neve will follow RME's example here.

  • @Microtonal_Cats
    @Microtonal_Cats Před 11 dny

    Are you using it for your talking here?

  • @slash196
    @slash196 Před rokem +1

    I definitely found my next interface. I|m starting to hit the point where the mic pres on my current interface are starting to become annoyingly bad.

  • @philip1258
    @philip1258 Před rokem +15

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      @mackea4651 Před rokem

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    • @jackfinnva2409
      @jackfinnva2409 Před rokem

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      @vaztrevorknox4203 Před rokem

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      @roberternest4641 Před rokem

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      @georgebasonathan4784 Před rokem

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  • @farley333
    @farley333 Před rokem +2

    Naah. I'll keep my Babyface, thanks. 😊

  • @alguitarchristie
    @alguitarchristie Před rokem +5

    I don't understand, why they can't do a single channel version of this, I would be happy to pay 500 pounds to have this at home as most of us, only use one channel at a time at home!

  • @zambination11
    @zambination11 Před 7 měsíci

    6:22 Yeah I know.. Though you could just read the Rme's instructions in its website and solve this matter in 5 minutes.

  • @lionheartroar3104
    @lionheartroar3104 Před rokem

    Any interface that puts you through so much trouble isn't worth bothering with. There are many many great interfaces out there without all the hiccups...and for less money.

  • @nujaz
    @nujaz Před 11 měsíci

    I got my RME Babyface pro several months ago and I love it BUT… it took about three weeks to get it to work. I actually thought the first one was defective and had Sweetwater sound send a replacement… surprise!! The 2nd one didn’t work either. It took several days of watching videos and searching forums to find the solution And I’m still working through Total Mix which, in fact, is a total mystery. Full disclosure.. I’m a pianist, not a tech guy so…

  • @PawFromTheBroons
    @PawFromTheBroons Před rokem

    Type C would like to remind Neve it's almost 2023, already.

  • @sylvainblanco
    @sylvainblanco Před rokem +1

    @christian Henson : what about the Merging Technologies Anubis which seems amazing in a smaller size ?

  • @paaftube
    @paaftube Před rokem

    haha just tried 10 minutes to catch the one frame of Irish guy on a pause but did not succeed. Thanks for the review!

  • @paulnattress9584
    @paulnattress9584 Před rokem

    How apt, I've just killed my Focusrite Forte whilst troubleshooting a software issue and then this video came out. I'm at a lower end of the budget though so I'm looking at the Motu M2 as my favourite (after some advice from the folks at VI-control).

  • @SR-ih1be
    @SR-ih1be Před rokem

    I love mine

  • @85percentcocoa
    @85percentcocoa Před rokem +1

    I loved your video until the RME thing with the drivers. I am a RME owner and never ever had any problem with their drivers and software, on the contrary, I consistently had much better experiences with RME devices in this regard than with any other brands. I do not understand what your problem with RME was, it is really the first time in more than 20 years of professional audio work that I see someone having your... situation with RME. I am baffled, to say the least. It almost makes what would have been an interesting take on the Neve interface into a dubious whatever thing.

  • @pdmcrew80
    @pdmcrew80 Před rokem +6

    Naaah...RME, always.

  • @colophon100
    @colophon100 Před rokem +1

    Hi Christian -- looks like the Eventbrite link provided above isn't working. I was able to find the event via a search on the Eventbrite site, but I thought I'd let you know about this in case you want to edit things...

  • @mrnelsonius5631
    @mrnelsonius5631 Před rokem

    I’m *very* curious about the quality of the Neve’s Windows driver. I’m a PC user primarily but low latency audio processing isn’t the strong suit of that OS, drivers are everything there. My gut feeling is that they probably haven’t nailed the software side first time around

  • @MACEASY2
    @MACEASY2 Před rokem

    Good stuff as ever, Christian, although that is quite chunky for bunging in the travel bag. Not quite sure why you are flicking back and forth between black & white and colour - we don''t need any frills and old video tricks! Glad to hear you are upping your output, but please don't let a 'social media manager' (what a sign of the times) sand off the rough edges and quirks of your personality - that is what we like and cherish! (also, I think the lack of support you have had from Spitfire is disgraceful and cooled me considerably to their branding and hype_.)