THE TERMINATOR 2 (1991) | FIRST TIME WATCHING | Reaction & Commentary | THE BEST!!!
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This week it's THE TERMINATOR 2 (1991) and we're watching for the FIRST TIME EVER!! AHHH let me know, did you see this when it first came out!? Sound off!
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00:00 - Intros
03:51- Start Watch
33:05 - Wrap it up and Trivia!
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Linda Hamilton's performance when seeing Arnold step out of the elevator is one of my favorite things in this movie. You nailed it - every nightmare she'd had for years coming true. It's blocked perfectly so that she's already bolted before John steps into view.
yeah and it was shot really well too.. the music and the slow-mo just reminds you of the magnitude of what her character would be feeling right then. and it reminds us, the audience of what she went through
Linda Hamilton went deaf filming in that elevator. Forgot to put her ear plugs in before 1 take, even the blank 12 gauge round was enough to blow out her ear drum permanently
The thing I really appreciate is that she just falls, flails helplessly for a second because she can't get traction, and then runs away screaming. She has limits, and she knows them. She's strong and tough and only human--and that's okay!
totally love that scene!
Yes! So good to see her built up as a badass for the first 20 minutes of this film and then when she spots Arnie her voice shoots up three octaves and she hightails it.
The Sarah Connor and hospital security guard doubles being the actors identical twins, and not CGI is such great filmmaking.
Those twins were in Robin Williams' Good Morning Vietnam playing officers who oversees censors in radio broadcasts.
@@MrTech226 And in Gremlins 2 as what could be a cloning joke.
@@cypher515 They were also in the first episode of Eerie, Indiana.
Sheriff, not security guard.
@@markhamstra1083 you go into libraries to check if anyone’s making noise don’t you?
the actor playing Miles Dyson does a fantastic job portraying the shortness of breath because at some point in his past, he was in a horrible accident where one of his lungs was punctured. So he is playing it from personal experience.
Great piece of trivia!
It's how a death rattle actually looks like, regardless of injury
I had no idea. Was that in a novelization? I'm not being a wiseass or anything like that, I'm just genuinely curious.
His last words are used to save the very people who just killed him. That's a true hero and a good man.
That's like the flip-side of Christopher Lee knowing what stabbing someone sounds like...
people don't give arnold enough credit for his acting job in this movie. he really sells the idea that he's actually a robot. great physicality and line deliveries
Oh, come on...he didn't even go: "Bleep bloop bleep!" once in the movie.
@@pistonburner6448touché lol
People don't give Arnold enough credit for his acting in general. Guy's a fantastic performer.
@@pistonburner6448so bloody cliche it's ridiculous 🙄🤦🏽🤣
One fun little trivia to add is that Robert Patrick was a track star in college. He was so fast that he could catch the bike John Connor rode on foot.
To be fair, the bike was being towed off-camera (as they often do in those sorts of scenes). But the driver didn't believe how fast Patrick was.
Also Richard Patrick, from the bands Filter and Nine Inch Nails' brother.
The theatrical release leaves you not knowing if judgement day happens or not and Sarah's "If a machine can learn the value of human life, maybe we can too" is more her being hopeful about an uncertain future.
Yea. The theatrical release ending is 10x better.
@@moonlitegram Agreed. It's the one thing I didn't really like about this version.
The first extended version made also uses the theatrical ending. The second extended version made found on the 4K release has the original ending.
@@moonlitegram Yes and no. The ambguity is fucking awesome. The part where it left things open enough for Fox to do like 4 more sequels ranging from mediocre to complete shit makes it a bad ending. The postive at least to this ending is its a 100% wrap up.
@@memnarch129 I really enjoyed the latest sequel. Very cool
That moment where the Terminator says to Sarah “Come with me if you want to live”-- is suppose to be not only a call back to Kyle Reese’s first words to her in the first film, but also they were intentionally in Future Jonny’s reprograming of the terminator so that, Sarah would believe and trust this terminator.
Favorite movie of all time. Honestly never thought of it that way. I love it even more now. 🤯
I don't know why terminater 5 had such flak with sarah conner and kyle reese, but with the time travel difference I think it is pretty good
@@ajlynch5235 casting choices were poor. Had some epic action scenes though.
Amazing detail catch. Never considered that.
I doubt that. If the Terminator was programmed to say that to gain Sara's trust then it wouldn't have considered her a non priority to the mission
In a stroke of marketing "genius," the role of Arnold as the protector was shown in the trailers. That moment of surprise you got with the reveal in the arcade hallway was something none of us had a chance to experience.
Yep, and now movie trailers give away the whole movie. I can not stand movie trailers they ruin movies.
Yep, I made sure that when my son watched T1 and T2 for the first time that he didn't watch the trailers. I showed him the trailer once he was finished T2 and he totally lost his mind and could not believe that they did that! :O
The good old days when you had to see the movie, to see the movie.
These days, it's a case of "nice movie, I can't wait to see the trailer"
yeah everyone knew arnie was the "good guy" back then.. didn't stop us from loving every minute of the movie though. but yeah it's crazy seeing people react to this movie who had no idea.. kinda like the people who never heard of the movie Alien and watch that one particular dinner scene lol. always fun seeing those reactions
I love it when folks actually get surprised by that reveal. The paradoxical advantage of not having been there when the film first arrived.
The song that is played while John and his friend are on the dirtbike is "You Could Be Mine" by Guns N' Roses.
Later, in the back halls of the Galleria, Arnold pulls out the shotgun in the box of roses. That was director James Cameron's nod to the band.
GnR music video was great. Expected the song to be in every scene! Disappointed at the time but I was only 11. The radio playing it is a really nice touch!
I remember how exciting it was when the music video came out, and it featured Arnold interacting with the whole band. This was actually BEFORE the "Use Your Illusion" albums finally released, so this was the first new stuff from G n' R that the public was getting after what felt like an eternity.
@@WastedPo If the fans only knew how long the next wait would be.
Older John Connor must told Doctor Mack to programmed the T-800 to carry the shotgun in a box of roses, as a clear message to his younger self to say that he is his protector with the clear *Catchphrase* reference to the band he was listening to on his way to the Galleria. (Guns N Roses/Gun in Roses)
Edited: In the delete scene, it was established that Public Enemy # 01 is the second group that John Connor liked (via T-1000 searching through his room for clue on his whereabout). It's also pretty clear that his terminator protector is public enemy no. 1 due to the police massacre from the first film done by the first terminator that looked like him.
And the song comes back in Terminator Salvation too!
James Cameron had an incredibly close relationship with his mother, and that's why his films often feature strong, well written female heroes, as a tribute to his mom.
She put him and his two brothers through school working as a waitress which is why that's Sarah's job in the first movie. One of his brothers is a Navy SEAL and the other is an engineer.
Cameron also has a... type.
The actor who played Miles did what in Mt opinion is the best death scene on film. The struggle to stay alive mixed with the struggle to complete the mission of changing their future. Miles would gladly die as any father would in order to prevent his child from facing such an apocalyptic future.
Yeah I cry two times with this movie, at his (Miles) death and at Arnold final "good bye"...
Add in the struggle to hold it heroically as long as possible in order to let the cops escape.
@@grife3000 That's not being a hero, that's stupidity.
@@grife3000 The cops who just shot him, no less. Even when they've wronged him, he wants to protect them. 100% consistent with a character who wants to make the world better.
Agreed. He made it look so real. Like he was really struggling to stay alive long enough to not kill anyone. I hate that he died though
I saw this in the theatre SEVEN times the summer it came out. I cried every time. People still laugh at me about it, I maintain it was valid!
I get it. Totally.
I know why you cried. Though that not something that I did.
Off top of my head, the added scenes were:
- The bad terminator experiencing glitches due to some damage, like a glitch after the truck explosion at the beginning of the movie, and after reconstituting himself after getting frozen.
- The good terminator needing a chip intervention so he can learn. In the theatrical version, he simply says something like "The more I stay around humans, the more I learn".
- The Kyle Reese cameo / dream sequence was missing entirely from the theatrical release.
- The ending scene is different, it's a footage of an empty road at night, with Sarah's voice over saying a bit of the monologue about "If a terminator can learn the value of human life..." etc.
The smile scene is also not in theatrical release.
Also the scene of the T1000 searching the house and John's room as well as the scene of the dog being killed. Theatrical release showed the step-father get killed for drinking from the fountain then cut away after changing back into the cop.
I see some more- Arnold explaining that the T-1000 can turn into steel weapons, and the step-mom turning back into the T-1000. Are those added? They both seem clunky and, like most special additions, totally unnecessary.
I actually prefer the road endng
@@autohmae Same here
One of the scenes in the directors cut that did not make the theatrical cut was the scene where they open his head to enable his AI. It's a shame because it's one of the craziest practical FX shots at a time when it was still cheaper and faster to do things that crazy instead of just using CGI, and took brilliant advantage of Linda having twin.
The "mirror" is not a mirror, it's a *window* into an *exact duplicate of the set built in reverse* on the other side, to *simulate* the reflection of the room. We're looking at the back of a puppet Arnold with his head open on the "real" side and *real* Arnold is sitting on the "reflection" side facing us. Both of the Sarah Connors in the shot are real, one is Linda and one is her sister.
Yes! That is one of my favorite fx shots ever. And it's so good you don't even notice it.
Yeah, it's the way they did mirrors in videogames before ray-tracing.
Her sister passed away just recently
I think she is faking the reaction. She has seen the movie before.
That's fucking incredible and probably wouldn't even be attempted today
When he said, "I'll be back," I'm pretty sure the theater's reaction was laughter. Delighted laughter for sure. An epic yet slightly silly moment, just how it should be.
Linda Hamilton's transition between movies and the Terminator role twist are fantastic.
My friends and I saw this at a midnight showing, the night before it opened in general. It was a full theater with an electric excitement like a concert. The movie blew us away that first premiere showing, having no warning of the big moments and reveals at all. It became a hit because it was an incredible theater experience, and it still looks amazing to this day.
It looks like it coulda came out yesterday. The kid's haircut and some computer screens are really the only things that appear dated.
The 1st movie came out 7 years earlier but looks a generation older.
Saw this in the theater. Movie etiquette back then was different, and cheering / applause was frowned upon during the movie; to be saved for the opening and/or closing credits only.
The mood or vibe in the theater is best described as "in jaw-dropping awe". At the time, this movie was on an entirely new level of special-effects, CGI and visuals. It. Was. Epic.
Months before it came out, my friend's brother enthusiastically said, "It's gonna be 2 hours of constant action!"
I thought that sounded pretty good.
And then when I saw the movie, it occurred to me that it was much better movie than "2 hours of constant action".
I really love these characters.
I've always really liked the part where Sarah tries, and fails to kill Dyson, because in a sense it's a very good meditation on the human condition
In effect, the reason she *fails* to kill him is that she tries to be a machine - a Terminator, basically - even though this is the thing she hates and fears most; she ultimately fails because she is a human being, with human emotions - including a mother's instinct, which causes her to empathize with Dyson even in the height of her rage, and leads her to realize what she has done
And ultimately, I think it is this distinction that makes the ultimate point of the film (at least in the theatrical version) more poignant: that maybe the thing that separates us from machines (i.e. Skynet) is that we humans can feel emotion, and therefore feel connection to other beings - which is why it's so important that the T800 (Arnie) learns the value of human life itself
Re: the Director's Cut, the most important addition (I don't know if it's the biggest) is the entire scene in which they reset the Arnold T-800's CPU to make him capable of learning again, and especially Sarah's conflict over whether to destroy the Terminator or not while she has his CPU out. The movie sort of worked without that scene, but virtually every instance of the Terminator becoming more human comes after that point.
The famous "hasta la vista, baby" catch phrase is a pretty iconic movie line, and it worked well enough on its own in a '90s camp way. But it's so much more meaningful as something he spontaneously does after John teaches him a bunch of now-dated '90s slang: the fact that he says it without John or Sarah there to hear it means he's trash talking on his own initiative and for his own benefit. It's an expression of humanity, and in that moment it's a human triumph: the old, obsolete robot triumphs over the newer, better hardware because there is no sufficiently advanced robot to outdo humanity.
By giving the Terminator some spark of humanity-for Sarah that involves not just "reprogramming," but treating a carbon copy of the machine that killed Kyle with trust and forgiveness-the Connors give the Terminator just enough humanity to overcome a superior machine than it was. A few extra inserts, e.g. of the Terminator learning to smile, don't really count as "deleted scenes" but really hammer home the question of whether the Terminator can in fact be human.
And then Dark Fate goes even further: yes, he can be.
virtually all scenes added by the directors cut don't add anything meaningful to the movie. Especially the last scene with old Sarah is just ... weird and kind of destroys the iconic thumbs up scene when the T-800 sinks into the liquid metal.
One of the rare instances where I clearly prefer the original cut.
@@chitoryu12 I know that the more Terminator movies they make, the less well they're received; but Dark Fate was definitely one of my favourites, and not just for nostalgia reasons. The one thing I noticed in Dark Fate, and it sounds like you did too, is that it's the first time he's become so human that his dog no longer recognizes him as a threat. The whole thing about dogs barking at his approach is maintained throughout the franchise. To fool a human is not much of a problem for an infiltration unit, but to fool a dog is another thing entirely. I like that the movie asked the question of whether he could become human, and for me it was the dog that gave us a very firm "yes" as the answer.
@@chitoryu12 Dark Fart is NOT a Terminator movie.
@@LukeMaynard that movie is absolute shite. Salvation was miles better.
The only thing I don't like about this version is the ending. Definitely check out the theatrical ending sometime
Yeah, it doesn't make much sense how John Connor could wind up in the U.S. Senate, considering he and his mother were wanted fugitives.
I like this ending, because it would have prevented all those sequels
Which version is this? I don't think I've ever seen it before.
I couldn't stand this version TBH. I didn't watch this until i was like 30, 15 years after this came out. I thought it messed up the pacing especially.
I don’t like it visually, and I prefer open endings, but sequels made the second ending needed.
The T-1000 was malfunctioning due to being frozen. That's why it turned into the bar when he touched it and had to concentrate to change back. The feet turned into the floor grate is less impactful though in my opinion.
These scenes also only appear in extended versions. Most likely because it made more sense for Cameron and the audience to believe John would figure out the real Sarah pretty easy without seeing the feet knowing his mother.
I always figured it was the heat from the smelter making it hard for it to maintain a solid form..
@@Gealaiche i always assumed that as it continue to be damaged and having to reform it was losing its "power" or as all machines, becoming broken down.
Imagine the discipline it took to remove those scenes considering how much work it must have been to make them
@@trulybtd5396 When you make a movie you may make more scenes then you end up using. Sometimes you discover too late that a scene doesn't work after all the work is done.
Not only was the film huge. But it also coincided with the breakout of Guns-n-Roses, and “You Could Be Mine” was a massive music video that helped boost the movie even more.
(Note how Arnie pulled a shotGUN out of a box of ROSES in the shopping mall hallway).
''I know now why you cry, and thats something I can never do'' Hes not talking about the production of tears, but actually experiencing the feelings that cause them 😭
ALWAYS watch theatrical versions of classics on the first viewing. Always.
I agree. A good movie should leave you wanting more. Well, here's the director's cut. It's got a little more.
Agreed. Deleted scenes are usually removed for a good reason. Usually...
Ripley's daughter... That should have stayed.
Does she even know she didn’t watch the theatrical movie ?
@@Waldorf-2020 Usually. Don't you ean "mostly."
YES! I don't know why these young reactors react to director's cut or other versions of popular films. The theatrical version of T2 is perfect. The Patreon subscribers sometimes lead these reactors astray.
I love that you came in blind to the fact that Arnold is a protector this time. They ruined that in the TRAILERS when this movie came out. Something they totally didn't learn from. They've ruined twists for future sequels in trailers in years since this as well.
@@gastronomist Good policy. Although I had read the books, I considered the movie 'Ender's Game' was ruined by a reveal in the trailer.
Man, Terminator Genisys was probably the most guilty of this. The trailer basically told you the whole story. I was thinking do I even need to go see it?
@@pokeygorilla9368 that is the first and best example I think of. I still enjoyed the movie, but I can't help but think it would have been a fantastic reveal if I hadn't known.
It was not ruined in the trailers I saw. We were all shocked. Maybe only certain markets got spoiled.
@@daffy8995 in the US trailers, you saw, well the major twist in the movie. and It basically gives you of cliffnotes of what is going to happen. First ballot hall of fame terrible trailer
A movie that shows the progression of Edward Furlong's (young John Connor) acting that I highly recommend is American History X. It's a movie with very heavy themes but I think everyone should watch it at least once. Also stars Edward Nortan in what I think is his best performance.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Yes!!!
Agreed!!!
"This whole movie he's never touched a metal pole?'
Being frozen caused permanent damage. He was glitching and losing control of his ability to transform.
The amount of times I watched this on VHS as a kid is ridiculous. T2 is definitely the greatest action film of all time, and will always be my favorite of the franchise.
I'm still waiting for my Terminator 2 animated series. Beetlejuice, Robocop, and the Toxic Avenger all got cartoons, why not this one?
It could have been about Sarah, John, and the Terminator still on the run from the T-1000 while tracking down various Skynet maguffins to prevent the Dark future. Each episode could end with the Terminator learning a new lesson about being human. And the T-1000 would get new dumb lackeys from Skynet each new episode.
I still want this show!
Agreed 💯%
saaame. terminator, terminator 2, the thing, the blob are THE movies of my childhood. oh, and forest gump, too, but that's a different genre entirely. i basically destroyed the vhs tapes, that's how often i would watch them. good times.
This is the only movie that moved me emotional,that ending monolog.If a Terminator,a machine,can learn the value of human life,maybe we can too.My head dropped down with SHAME.That's the first and only time a film made me feel SHAME.
It was so sad when Linda Hamilton's identical twin sister passed away a couple of years ago. Props to JC for using her in the scene with two Sarahs. I love practical effects.
Interesting...why did JC not fall in love with her instead?
@@AlleyKatPr0 Already married?
@@AlleyKatPr0 Because that is not how things work.
@@AlleyKatPr0 I think he was hitched at the time to Kathryn Bigelow?? I think they married after his divorce from her if I'm correct on my timeline?? I know he was wed to actress Suzy Amis, too
@@AlleyKatPr0 ....or it may've been Gale Anne Hurd instead?? She was a producer for The Terminator and was involved in T2's making, also
This was so epic seeing it in the theater when it first came out. I got to see it before trailers/teasers came out that ruined the reveal that Arnie was the "good" guy. And yes, people cheered at some of the call-back lines like "I'll be back" and "Come with me if you want to live." Also, for the time, the CGI was amazing and we all loved the character growth that Sarah had since the previous movie.
I saw it on the opening night in Leicester Square London and it was like a riot to get in. I got lucky and got a returned ticket.
I was 11 sleeping at a friend's house the day this was released on vhs. After watching, I remember wishing I had John Connors life.
I saw this movie in theaters when I was in the Army in Germany.
The first time was in Garmisch Partenkirchen (a theater there ran some movies in English) and then a few weeks later on post. The German audience was much, much more reserved than the American military crowd.
I have a few thoughts about the writing and the somewhat understated themes in this movie. At first the film seems to be a relatively straightforward action movie. And it can be viewed that way. But there are also very well presented themes and character arcs that are well developed. Sarah Connor, who superficially seems to represent humanity, is gradually turning into a terminator. She’s been through a traumatic experiences, she is losing hope, she is losing humanity, and she is becoming more and more like a remorseless killing machine. Eventually she reaches a crisis point and unable to cope with the stress she literally becomes a terminator on a mission to kill Miles Dyson. The terminator seems to superficially represent the machines. But he is becoming more and more human through his experiences. His initial drive to solve problems by killing slowly evolves into a much more human set of motivations and actions. Ultimately he saves countless human lives and even sacrifices himself for the good of humans. He becomes the most human of all the characters. Miles Dyson represents the dual nature of science and technological achievement. He is a good man who only wants to better the world. But he simply doesn’t fully comprehend The nature of the power he possesses. He represents a tragic aspect of humanity, The fact that our own brilliance and good intentions can result in disaster. John Connor appears to be a misfit child, but even as a child he embodies the characteristics of a great leader that Kyle Reese described. He is the one who turns Sarah back from her dark path. He is the one who teaches the terminator the value of human life. He Helps miles Dyson gained the wisdom to use his intellect in a better way.
Perfectly said! 👏🏾
Good analysis of Terminator 2, one minor quibble about Terminator though it's much closer to a horror slasher movie than a straightforward action movie. It never feels like they have any chance against the terminator in that movie and while the T101 in Terminator 2 isn't a match for the T1000 physically he is shown to be clever and capable enough to slow it down significantly while keeping a calm demeanor which cuts down on the feelings of dread we feel as an audience in contrast with Sarah being terrified out her mind for most of the first movie.
Wow!
Very Joseph Campbell-ish...
I think she is faking the reaction. She has seen the movie before.
I remember back in 1991 seeing this in the theater, when T2 walked out of that fire, it was literally the first time CGI was used in a movie in this way. Everyone in the theater just GASPED. It was a huuuge shock! :D
Miles taking his last breath while completing his mission is one of the best death scenes ever filmed in my opinion, right up there with Robert Shaw in Jaws!
Best Action Movie Ever made!
Fun Fact: rock star Billy Idol was almost cast as the villainous T-1000, but got into a motorcycle accident injuring his leg.
Robert Patrick was cast instead.
There is even earlier storyboard concept that bear a striking resemblance to Idol.
And when Billy Idol appeared in THE DOORS as one of Jim Morrison's buddies, he's on crutches, from that same motorcycle accident.
13:22 -- She's Jenette Goldstein, the same actress who played Pvt. Vasquez in Aliens.
It's over thirty years old, and the effects still hold up.
In the theatrical release, we don't see the T-1000 kill the dog, and we don't see his feet when he's posing as Sarah.
I saw it on opening weekend -- it was wild. I was fifteen, at the time.
Yeah, Cameron likes reusing actors he thinks were good. Like Michael Biehn being in this(briefly, in an add on scene), T1, and The Abyss.
@@thatpatrickguy3446 and Aliens, of course!
@@ShadowTrailMedia Very true!
Imagine having worked with the two most badass female leads ever: Sarah Connor and Ellen Ripley..!
Rest in peace to Leslie Hamilton ,, Linda Hamiltons identical twin She died from COVID-19 She also played a part in this movie when there's two of her on screen.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: all skynet has to do to eliminate John Conner is not create time travel.
I love an idea behind 1st and 2nd movies. Two most scientific theories about time travel.
First movie was about "the fate" - showing us that future can't be changed. And as examples of that, movie shows us two infinity loops:
-John Connor sends Kyle Reese back in time > Kyle fell in love with Sarah > John Connor is born > all repeats
- Skynet sends Terminator back in time > Terminator destroyed but some parts of him remain > By studying these parts humans creating Skynet > all repeats
In both cases the result is the reason.
Second movie was about "there is no fate" - showing us that future can be changed. But only for those who are not involved in that future yet. Only those who are in present can change their own future. Example of that we see in the happy ending of movie with aged Sarah and John, where Skynet wasn't created and Nuclear war not happened.
And as there is no third option for time travel result - there was no intention to make another Terminator movie. Cameron did a great job with two movies and ended his story.
But greedy bastards from Hollywood made a decision to create another shit sequels and ruin everything.
It's easier if we just ignore everything after T2
Best Terminator movie, can watch it any time. Despite the mixed reviews personally I loved the Terminator 3 as well, not epic but still worth the time for me. Not ground-breaking but
good film with a bucket of popcorn.
Loved the reaction, this is why reaction channels excist. Your excitement is contagious.
i can agree with t3, kinda falls off a cliff after that one thou
I liked T3 well enough, won't say I loved it. It was the last one where they added a little bit and didn't really upset anybody.
The rest of them just recklessly stomp all over the property like drunk toddlers.
@@shanester1832 For me (though I really need to watch it again to really nail down my opinion of it) 4 is the only one worth watching after 2. 2 was 1 again but bigger and better whereas three is the same thing yet again but worse. 4 at least is trying to do something completely different though it did suffer a lot from its trailers as most people went into it expecting to finally see John Connor as the resistance leader and instead the movie is about how he becomes that and not even really told from his perspective. All the ones after 4 basically just exist to make 3 look better (its a lot like the Alien franchise, I still remember growing up with 3 being the bad Alien movie and then every entry that has come out since has retroactively made 3 look better).
How? T3 is basically just a remake of T2, it brings nothing new to the table.
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- First time stating Skynet is unavoidable, referencing current times rushing towards making smarter and smarter AI.
- Shows how the AI convinces it's controllers to let him free to do it's thing using smart virus on the internet first
- Shows an advanced AI can excist in the internet cloud with no computer to destroy
- Shows a more mature John, not a kid.
- Explains how John finds himself on a commanding position
- First time John has a love intrest
- Shows first series of terminators
- First female terminator
- First terminator with ranged weapons
- First terminator that can take over machines using nano robots
- Arnold both good protective good and controlled evil terminator
..And everything is adopted to modern technology.
It’s impressive in its set pieces and story development. The special effects by and large still hold up and we get real feels. I never get tired of seeing it, and all the actors elevate the script.
First movie I cried at. A 10 year old couldn't survive that thumbs up. 👍
Between this and Jurassic Park, the early 90's were pretty legendary times at the cinema!
And now for The Abyss (special edition of course) - another great Cameron movie somehow everyone seems to have forgotten. It would be a movie *not* everybody else's reacting to for a change.
I just rewatched TASE for the first time in years and years, such a brilliant masterpiece.
The special edition of The Abyss is a must. Most special editions are nice extras but you can usually live without them. The Abyss's special edition transforms it into a far better film. I experience extreme frustration when I see reactors watch the theatrical release!
Still to this day one of the greatest action films ever made and the perfect example of a sequel done right.
Fun facts.
1. Linda Hamilton has a twin sister, she played all the scenes where two Sarah's were needed.
2. Edward Furlong has never acted before this film. He was scouted at a local YMCA.
3. John's Stepmom was played by actress Jeanette Goldstein, you most likely know her as Vasquez from Aliens.
4. After the liquid Nitrogen, the T-1000 did sustain damage, that's why it was "glitching".
Fun fact: the red headed kid in the arcade who is friends with John Connor, that's the guy who does the voice for Jack Spicer from Xiaolin Showdown.
This movie was so good back in the early 90's. So much crazy new visuals on the cgi and stuff. Seeing the "new bits" is just strange being so used to the original format I saw back in 91.
The nuclear explosion scene stuck with me to this day. Linda Hamilton was excellent in both her acting and her physical form. She trained hard to get that ripped. Joe Morton who played Miles Dyson is an excellent actor. I recommend watching him in the 2005 season 1 episode 17 of "House" called 'Role Model'. Incredible acting, similar job with being out of breath.
Joe also played Henry in the series "Eureka". A town full of scientists and 1 average sheriff(?).
fun fact, the reason he is so good at being out of breath is he was in a pretty bad accident where one of his lungs was punctured. so the incredible acting comes from personal experience.
Mr. Morton is also excellent in Executive Decision, which is just an amazing film. It also has Kurt Russell, John Leguizamo (tolerable for a change), David Suchet, and Halle Berry. Just a stellar movie!
And of course, he is Dr. Silas Stone in Justice League, as Cyborg's father
He was also in one episode of sanford and son. Funny thing is, he didn't seem to age a single day between that episode and T2.
I'm glad that you liked this. I greatly enjoyed it in the theater and several times on VHS, DVD, and Blu-Ray. It is in my top 100. By the way, Arnold's Terminator was in AFI's list of 50 Greatest Movie Villains for the first film, and on their 50 Greatest Movie Heroes list for this one.
I was head over heels for Linda Hamilton, just beautiful, as of late I see Linda on "resident aliean", still a great actress.
Edward Furlong was cast in this role after a casting agent saw him at a Boy’s and Girl’s club here In Pasadena, California. No real reason why, the kid just fit the part. And yes his voice goes through changes as he was going through puberty at the time of filming.
I believe he ended up re-dubbing his entire performance. His voice was totally different by the end of production.
I saw in theaters. When he did "I'll be back," our theater laughed with some people going into a cheer. Action-packed yet punctuated with very well-paced and well-placed humor at all the right moments.
Seen it also in the theaters. It was so packed they actually let people sit in the aisles. This was 2 of the biggest theaters side by side and showings were at the same time. I'll never forget it
@@andreadeamon6419 Lucky. Are you in the US madam?
@@southlondon86 yes. Born and raised in the rock and roll capital of the world.
I saw it in the US in the theater in 1991. It was quite amazing at the time. I don't remember too much, but I do remember that when Arnold walks down the stairs and the song "Bad to the Bone" started playing, the theater erupted in cheers.
My friends and I drove to Los Angeles to see it on opening night. The lines were going around the block. The cheering crowd and the atmosphere made for one of the best movie watching experiences I've ever had.
"I love doing 2's on this channel!"
Well you're in luck! This is one of the best "2's" in cinematic history!
This is one of my favorite movies ever. It, by FAR, the best in the entire Terminator franchise. The story, the action, the acting, an epic journey indeed. And the CGI was literally groundbreaking for the time. It is my third-favorite all time movie. Now I need to tell you, you watched the wrong version. You watched one with all the deleted scenes, which was fine, until the final scene. That was an alternate ending that, if you watching Terminator 3, won’t make any sense, which is all I’ll say to avoid spoilers. The real ending of the movie left the future somewhat uncertain.
After seeing Edward Furlong here, may be interesting to jump to American History X next. I'd love to get your take on that one. Great reaction here, keep up the great work!
American History X is a very good movie. Second that:)
That movie makes my eyes leak from about the face region. Very weird.
Okay, but "American History X", while a great movie, stars Edward NORTON, not Edward FURLONG.
@@marleybob3157 Edward Furlong is the child John Connor in T2. He is Ed Nortons little brother in American History X.
@@marleybob3157 Both my guy:)
Your enthusiasm continues to be infectious Shanelle. Love it.
Only movie I've ever seen twice in the cinema. I just had to. It was sooooo mindblowing back then. And it holds up just as well all these years later!
Your reactions are fun and love how you discuss trivia and other aspects of movies.
Props to Linda Hamilton's great acting/ physical training.
Its incredible how believable Sarah Connor's transformation from slightly naive friendly waitress to buff military commando in T2.
Sarah almost became what she feared and hated. A terminator had she killed Miles Bennett Dyson.
It's cool how the scene when Sarah go nuts during a recorded interview at the psychiatric hospital and her face is freeze framed on a tv monitor calling back to when Kyle Reese is interrogated by police and he looses his temper and he is also freeze framed on a tv monitor.
It's very cool that Linda Hamilton's twin sister Leslie is seen in a playground with young John in the nuclear blast dream sequence. Leslie looks very much like the Sarah Connor from the original movie in that scene.
Its crazy how Sarah's skeleton is still holding onto the fense during the blast. So intense. This movie has such great visual effects especially for 1991
Robert Patrick is awesome as the T-1000
Shanelle incase you didn't realize
the T 1000 was glitching after reforming in the steel mill.
This caused him trouble keeping his human shape when in contact with various surfaces. Such as the yellow striped railing or In one scene his feet start to be blending into the metal floor.
The first time I saw cgi effects similar was in 1989 the Abyss also directed by James Cameron and has actor Michael Biehn aka
(Kyle Reese) he played Hicks in James Camerons 1986 Aliens. Another Aliens alumni is John Connor's foster mom actress (Jenette Goldstein) who played badass soldier Vazquez.
Shanelle if you haven't seen the Abyss please consider a reaction to that.
Clearly you watched the Special Director cut
with deleted scenes like the Kyle dream and the alternate ending with much older Sarah.
Iv never seen that scene before.
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I watched the original when I was in High School in New Zealand. It was so good. I was living in London in 1991. The teaser for T2 came out and I was so excited. I managed to get a ticket to the first showing in Europe at the time. The screen was so big and the movie was so epic. Went to see it a dozen times or more. Remains one of my favourite movies to this day.
Watching this masterpiece in cinema back in the early 90s was stunning. This movie aged very well.
I had the biggest crush on Linda Hamilton when I first watched this movie when I was 14. My brother introduced me to the terminator films and I loved both the 1st and 2nd films.
I have to give HUGE respect to the scene where the Chevy S-10 was smashed into the guardrail. That scene literally took me years to realize to notice, and appreciate. No one talks about that.
This is one of my favorite movies ever but it’s also very nostalgic for me. My father recently passed away and he too loved both the Terminator movies. I was 13 when Terminator 2 came out and he took me and my younger brother to see it in the movie theater. It was a great experience and a very fond memory of mine. I loved seeing this in the theater!
I've been waiting for this reaction! Thank you so much, Shanelle. :)
It is so much fun seeing first time viewers in 2022 react to this. Living it in real time in 1991 was an experience itself, but the twist at the beginning with Arnie being the good terminator had been exposed in interviews and advertising for months. So we didn't get that surprise reveal like people seeing it now. It's so cool to see the confusion on reactor's faces when it happens.
One fact that always blew my mind is that Robert Patrick had to train to be able to sprint flat out with his mouth closed, breathing through his nose, while not appearing fatigued at all throughout the entire take when chasing John. Running that fast is hard enough, but being able to keep up that pace without being able to breathe through your mouth, and not appearing tired at all? Wild.
You loving this movie so much, makes me unreasonably happy :)
Not sure about all the deleted scenes, but I'm pretty sure the shot you commented on near the end, where the T1000 grabs a iron bar in the foundry, and involuntarily 'copies' it, wasn't in the version I saw at least. But it is supposed to let us know that, because the foundry is so hot, the T1000 has trouble controlling his form when he comes in contact with other surfaces in there - which is the explanation for why "fake-Sarah's" legs are "sticking" to the floor later, and that allows John to see "her" for the terminator it is.
Shanelle my dear, you are good. Right on the money, Edward Furlong had to re-record pretty much all of his dialogue because his voice changed so much during production. The only original dialogue Cameron ended up using was from some of the desert scenes. Because of the tone of the scenes he thought it sounded better as is because Edward's voice of course had a more innocent child like quality. Made the dialogue even more impactful. Cameron was a genius. I say was because he fu*ked me with Terminator Dark Fate and I'm still sore!
Every T2 fan on the planet is still sore about that one.
"Can [Arnold] keep his promise [not to kill anyone]"
Not only does he keep it after being given the order, but this is one of the few Arnie movies where he doesn't kill _anyone_
Me at the movies:
"I'll never let go, Jack." (eyes totally dry)
"There's one more chip." (crying like a baby)
Loved your reactions and analysis! Yes, this was a GREAT action movie. Now, for another really great Arnie action movie, you really MUST do "True Lies" starring Arnold and Jamie Lee Curtis. Tons of action, stunts, and humor. I promise--you will love it!!
She has seen True Lies and you can catch her reaction on her podcast called Star Vehicle.
To me this movie set the new standard for action movies for the '90's. To this day it still holds up incredibly well including the CGI. This and many other reasons are why this is in my top 3 movies along with Return of the King and The Dark Knight.
It's also great to watch reactions to those who don't know the first act twist of the T-800 being the protector this time, the trailers back in the day unfortunately spoiled that.
Shenelle your comprehensive breakdown at the end of the reaction is the best thing I've seen from a reaction channel. I still can't believe other channels aren't copying it. People will even questionn things out loud during the movie but then we never see it get resolved. How they havnt realized a quick rundown of trivia and facts is everything. Just wanted to say good job, it's unique and if it ever catches on I've got your back that you were the OG
James Cameron was PISSED the studios blew the twist that Arnolds Terminator was the protector this time in the pre release marketing campaigns.
What's absent from the theatrical cut is the forced medication scene (8:22), the Kyle Reese scene (9:10), dog killing scene (13:50), T-1000 searching John Connor's bedroom scene (13:58), the whole resetting the chip/switch scene (16:47), learning to smile scene (18:05), Miles Dyson explaining the chip to his wife scene (18:30), the underground weapons bunker scene is in the theatrical cut but it's shorter-- Arnold's "I have to stay functional" line and John Connor's mocking him ("I'm important") were cut (19:01)-- but the part where Arnie picks up the mini-gun at 19:07 is in the theatrical. Also, the moments where the T-1000 is "glitching" were cut (28:03, 29:26), and the "30 years later ending" is not in the theatrical (31:25)-- the theatrical ending is just Sarah Connor giving a monologue and it's a better ending, look it up. There may be other moments, but I'm just going by what scenes are shown in this video.
Also, this is the first film to have a budget of $100 million (exact budget was $102 million). And it's also the film that sent CGI into the stratosphere. At the time of its release, T2 was the second highest grossing film of all time at $519 million unadjusted for inflation, surpassing the box office gross of "Star Wars" in its original 1977 release of $503 million-- "Star Wars" was re-released multiple times afterwards, making even more money. "E.T." was still #1 at $600+ million, until "Jurassic Park" surpassed it in 1993 at $900+ million. Then "Titanic" then "Avatar".
You mean those are the scenes IN the director’s cut… or those are the scenes absent from the THEATRICAL cut.
Why did no one warn her not to watch this inferior version first? It’s just a bonus for fans… not something you watch as your first (and likely only) T2 experience… ugh. Fans really let us down. (I wish I had known she was doing these… I take partial responsibility…
@@mrhobs Yea, that's I meant. How did I mess that up? And yea, I agree. I do like some of the extra scenes (forced medication scene, the smile scene), but theatrical is the way to go. The new ending is terrible.
@@rustincohle2135 Exactly. Maybe a few shots/scenes are debatable... could maybe add something, but overall, nope. Forced medication I can maybe see, but the smile scene (as funny as it is) is just a tiny bit too indulgent in the a subtler version of the same scene already in the film... the part where John is teaching him how to talk naturally. I feel like the director's cut slows things down a little too often to have teachable moments with John's new Terminator pal. Its cool though if you like that one. As long as we can agree the scene with Kyle showing up in a dream was utter eye scratching cringe, heh. (But you already said it, theatrical is the way to go. Seemed like for awhile it disappeared, but I feel like the director's cut is finally not being promoted as the only version... thank goodness.)
This is a different version than the standard movie. Several extra scene were present, and also it's the alternative "happy" ending. The ending in the real movie was different.
I watched Terminator II many many times as a kid, but these scenes I only saw few years ago. I personally like the original cut much better.
Yeah, there was a scene I didn't remember, which was odd, but maybe I forgot. Then the ending was *very* different.
This is definitely a case where the theatrical cut got it right.
This is the kind of movies one doesn't get tired of watching over and over again!
I'm sure it's already been said in the comments somewhere, but the Extended cut scenes are the dog (max) being killed by the T1000, the T1000 investigating John's bedroom, and the futuristic ending. The Director's cut scenes are the chip removal scene, the michael biehn scene, and the T800 learning to smile scene. The Theatrical and Director's cuts ended with a dark highway at night, instead of the somewhat goofy futuristic scene. The Director's cut is the best of the three, in my opinion, as it includes things the audience would want to see without any scenes that can't be inferred if omitted (max being killed and the bedroom scenes don't really add much), and it also has the same ending as the Theatrical (dark highway at night).
This must be a director’s cut, as I have seen this movie before it was released to the public. I saw a screening at the DGA because a friend of mine’s dad had developed optical audio with Kodak to do all the audio for this film. I never saw some of the scenes being shown in this version, and yes, I have T2 on dvd and those scenes were not included. BTW, Miss Riccio, you are cute as hell😊
This movie has 3 cuts
this is not the director's cut 🤦♂
An absolute masterpiece of a movie. One of if not the best sequel of all time
Not even the best James Cameron sequel. I'd say Aliens takes the prize
It still weirds me out how good the T1000 looks for its time. It still holds up.
Fun fact - in the scene where they pull the chip out of Arnie's head, they used Linda Hamilton's twin sister to match her movements to make the mirror effect. Total Orphan Black
I am still amazed by Adam Greenberg's night time cinematography in this movie. Fantastically clean blue look.
I've said this before but I'll say it again. As much as I really do think this a masterful sequel, there's still something about the gritty ness of the original that I think kinda makes it better. T2 just looks a little too polished if that makes any sense!
I've always thought lower budget films can contain more creativity in them than bigger buget films. To me the first Terminator is exactly that. Plus, I wasn't too crazy with the idea of all T-100's looking exactly the same. The flashback scene that showed a different terminator sneaking into the survivor's bunker was where I wanted the sequels to go.
@@jamminjohn yeah I agree! Like em or hate em RLM really spelled it out in their review of The Phantom Menace when they called the problems working on A New Hope "art from adversity"
The first is a young talented director and artist with a chip on his shoulder and something to prove on a minimal budget. The sequel was a director that had already already conquered hollywood and had practically unlimited recorces, plus new tech to play with.
Yes, I also prefer the atmosphere of T1. Especially the soundtrack, as the horror themes.
There's no need to choose Jon, that's the best part about the two movies being internally consistent. I love the grittiness of the first movie too. But then I love the polished flashiness of the second movie just as much.
The first Terminator movie was amazing. The second one blew expectations out of the water. I remember seeing both in theaters. Probably one of the top five movie/sequel combinations ever.
Also, this is how you write a "strong female character." No political correctness needed.
You make a good "strong female" character by writing them like an actual person, with flaws as well as virtues, and as a realistic person. Highlighting the motherhood aspect of Sarah's character emphasizes her femininity without shoving it in your face in an obnoxious way.
When Cameron told his editors he wanted to use "Bad to the Bone", they objected. "That's so cliché", they said. Cameron said "Don't care, it's cool." He was right.
Sarah herself was becoming the very terminator she was running from.
It’s a bummer a lot of people watch the Cameron “directors cuts” for reactions. Whether it’s this, Aliens, or The Abyss. He’s actually better when he’s being edited, his full movies are bloated and heavy handed. I wish reactors would just watch the theatrical releases
The theatrical cut of T2 IS the director's cut 🤦♂
I remember being so excited for this movie!! There were at least 5 of us going to see it on the opening day and none of us got to sit with each other. Of course we came back the next weekend and got there super early!!
One thing I am happy to brag about, I was the first of my friends to notice this.... when the helicopter was chasing them, the T-1000 was shooting a pistol.. reloading a different weapon, and flying all at the same time. A minimum of 4 hands needed for all of that.
I was obsessed with this movie when it first released in theaters. When consumer DVD players came out some years later, I bought a player just to watch this movie in higher fidelity. A few years ago, Cameron re-released a 3D remaster in theaters. It was great! They made great production choices and did not over do it at all.
What amazes me about James is, like Spielberg, did low level behind the scenes stuff, then a couple of low budget nothing films. Then he does terminator and aliens, and the rest is history!
There are some insane stunts in this movie. The one with the T-1000 falling off the cop car with his arms still metal was one since they couldn't find a good flexible material for the metal arms. Then there's helicopter under the bridge, which was just done as filmed. No one wanted to film it, so Cameron operated the camera himself. Then there's the scene where the T101(stuntman Peter Kent) runs across the bed of the pick-up and jumps onto the semi, which, again, was filmed just as we see, with no extra safeties. This latter stunt is one that Cameron said on the DVD commentary a few years later that he would not approve again.
Saw this opening night, and it was the biggest movie premiere I've been to since. The theater we went to was so packed that no one in our party could sit together. And in the middle of the movie the projector "broke down" and there was a friggin 5 minute magic show! A magician was in the audience and did a show until they "fixed" the projector. Talk about movie magic!
16:36 I LOVE the way this scene is shot. And you're lucky to see it. The theatrical version just has Arnie saying that he is a learning computer and he learns by observing...the "surgery" is not in the other version.
Robert Patrick actually caught the bike in the first take of the escape from the mall. He was really fast in his youth. They were of course unable to use that take, as the world just ended. "Now, Robert, you're playing an unstoppable shape shifting cyborg assassin from the future. We're gonna need you to dial it down a notch."
He also trained himself to not blink on screen, even when firing his gun, which is very hard to do.
When the T-1000 flies the helicopter under the bridge, that was actually a helicopter flying under a bridge. The camera crew actually refused to film it, because they thought the stunt was just too dangerous. Cameron had faith in his pilot. So he hopped on the camera and filmed it himself, just him and the truck driver.
She missed the "Come with me if you want to live" call back to Kyle Reese using the line, which is what struck her and helped her to believe he was there to help.
They came naturally back then (late 80's - 90's) - Every summer good movie. Who knew those were such good times
...and with that thumbs up, the franchise ended with two stellar films and no sequels were made and we all lived happily ever after!
T1: Terminator is Blown up in a Fiery Semi Explosion (and Survives), T2 is Frozen in a Semi Carrying Liquid Nitrogen ... Role Reveresal at it's best!