THE INCREDIBLE HULK (2008) | FIRST TIME WATCHING | Reaction & Commentary | STRETCHY PANTS?!
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- This week (back from copyright prison) we have the next Marvel installment. THE INCREDIBLE HULK from 2008. Talk to me about The Hulk (2003), the casting of Edward Norton, and if you think those pants really could stretch to fit Hulky in all his glory.
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The security guard was played by Lou Ferrigno who was the original Incredible Hulk tv show
He also voiced the Hulk.
@@williambanks2223The only time Hulk will be a man painted green.
Side note in the TV series the scientists name was David banner instead of Bruce
And the show on the TV Bruce is watching before Sesame Street we see Bill Bixby who played David Banner on the Hulk TV show. The producers thought the name “Bruce Banner” sounded gay.
When I was a kid in the 80s. The Hulk from the TV show resonated with me. I got bullied alot, what gravitated me to the character was my name was David Bruce. I had two of the Hulk names. When I got older and finally stood up for myself, I felt a lot of affliction that was building over the years finally came out. Don't make me angry, you won't like me when I'm angry. It still rings true of my personality now days. Will love any one just dont push me.
The reason they didn't show much of the origin, is because there was another Hulk movie in 2003, not part of the MCU. The producers thought telling the origin with the gamma experiment again would be boring for the audience. They also wanted to tie this into the Super Soldier serum, which will be VERY important in future movies. Also, the security guard who was massive was played by Lou Ferrigno, who played Hulk in the 70s TV series.
ive seen a number of people trying to claim this is a sequel to the 2003 film when the real answer is as simple as this
Yep, same reason they didn't do an origin story for Tom Holland's Spiderman
@@WolvesPlaysGames Not exactly the same.
For Hulk 2008, not showing the origin story was more a "story twist" to surprise the audience with, than to not make yet another origin story like with Holland.
Keep in mind, this movie came out _before_ anybody even knew Andrew Garfield. The only Spider-Man back then was Tobey Maguire, with the 3rd movie having come out just a year prior. "Origin-story fatigue" wasn't a thing yet. Homecoming released 2017, almost a decade of superhero movies later.
For quite a while I thought that this movie retconned the previous one out of existence and that the appearance of Hulk in the MCU piggybacked into other characters' movies retconned this one out of existence as well. (I had only seen these Hulk movies once each and was going off my memory of them and the fact that Bruce had been recast each time. Didn't rewatch either of them at any point.) I was surprised when I first saw a comment claiming that both movies were canon to the MCU. That it's all the same incarnation of the character across all three actors.
@@MuljoStpho only the two actors. incredible hulk is the only hulk movie in the MCU
There are a number of callbacks to The Incredible Hulk TV Series; more than just the appearance of Lou Ferrigno, the original Hulk from television, in a cameo as another security guard (just as he did in 2003’s Hulk).
- The university where Banner worked on the Gamma experiment; Culver University, is a nod to the Culver Institute where Banner worked on the Gamma experiment in the pilot episode of the series.
- During the battle between the Hulk and Bromsky/theArmy, two college students recorded the battle. One of the students was named Jack McGee, who was a reporter for the college newspaper. In the series, Jack McGee was a newspaper reporter who pursued Banner and the Hulk throughout the series.
- Each time when Banner “hulked out”, you may notice his eyes turned green. In the series, whenever Banner got angry or frustrated, his eyes turned white before the transformation. Also, when Banner said to his co-worker at the bottling plant “Don’t make me hungry, You wouldn’t like me when I’m hungry.”; it was a nod to the line from the series where Banner said “Don’t make me angry. You wouldn’t like me when I’m angry.” It was even referenced at the end of the 2003 Hulk movie as well.
@Shanelle If you’re interested, look for the pilot episode of The Incredible Hulk series just to see where the roots of this film came from.
Also the Sesame Street episode on the tv starred Bill Bixby who played the Banner counterpart to Ferigno’s Hulk.
@@emanymton713 The clip that featured Bill Bixby was from an episode of an earlier TV show he made called The Courtship of Eddie’s Father.
I can understand why some people don't like it as much but all the callbacks to the tv series are exactly why this ranks much higher for me. That show is part of my earliest childhood memories and far more responsible for my interest in the MCU than any of the comics. Another of my favourite nods to that show is the end credits theme song, which the movie uses after Bruce changes back the first time after The Hulk escapes Brazil, iirc.
Also, after his first hulk out you hear the original TV theme.
When Betty went shopping for stuff he needed and brought him some purple stretchy pants is a call back to the Hulk from the comics who was originally depicted always wearing purple shorts.
“Captain America: The First Avenger “ will reaffirm your Marvel journey. Cheers to you Lady Shanelle.
There are three easter eggs tied to the comics that some people miss:
1) Ty Burrell's character, Leonard Samson, is called Doc Samson, A gamma irradiated psychologist with green hair. He is super strong like the Hulk but not to his levels.
2) The purple pants were the color he wore for decades.
3) Samuel Sternsbecomes a gamma powered genius called The Leader. He is The Hulk's most formidable antagonist.
Samson isn't as strong as the Hulk, but he's a renowned psychologist. Usually, he can deftly outsmart the Hulk as opposed to beating him up. As a matter of fact, he's specifically an expert on the psychology of super-powered beings. Likely rivaling or even surpassing Professor X in that department.
and it looks like we are finally going to get the Leader in a MCU film
The greasy, nerdy guy eating pizza in the computer lab is ALSO Peter Parker's teacher in the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies. Confirmed by Kevin Feige.
So funny to see your reaction to security guard Lou Ferrigno (longtime bodybuilding competitor of Arnold Schwarzenegger) who played the original Incredible Hulk in the 1980s .
The security guard is Lou Ferrigno, the 80s Hulk star.
This is my Hulk that should have been in the MCU. Also, the back story was done in the opening credits just like the TV show. Great nod to Bill Bixby. The best film Hulk hands down.
Too bad Ed Norton was being a dick to Disney. He would have been a great addition to the MCU.
@@joseoropeza8894not Disney, the director of this movie, the producers, the entire crew struggled with him. I love Norton but this is his story on many of the films he's worked on.
@@joseoropeza8894 This was before the Disney buy-out.
I know plenty of folks have negative things to say about the Disney+ shows, especially She-Hulk, but I love in the finale (or such) when they did the opening credits in the style of the old show, a direct homage. Was very cool to see.
Pffff, Ruffalo is so much better as both Hulk and Banner.
So glad this journey is continuing!
Absolutely!!
@@ShanelleRiccioif you are looking for origin story, you can watch Hulk 2003, but it's not a part of mcu
@@ShanelleRiccio if you watch the first hulk movie: it explains how "dr david banner" created and experimented on bruce banner as a very very young boy(around 5-10 years old)and his grandma ended up raising him when his mother was killed "in a rage attack" against former dr david banner. david banner was working as a military scientist,and ended up losing his job and killing his wife and other people with gamma radiation boms going off in the mili base.
dr david banner, did experiments on himself too cause he "formulated the mixture to bond with his cells/as well as bonded them with bruce too) he was sentenced ti prison however they found out he changed as well. david became known as the absorbing man." he is able to bond with any element both the physical like rocks,sand,metal, and things like clouds and lighting too
Should've just said she should watch the 2003 movie to get a sense of the origin story, even if it's not MCU canon, rather spoil literally the whole plot of the movie. Especially when she repeatedly says she doesn't like spoilers prior to viewing.
Terminator? Close, the security guard was the live action Hulk from the famous 1980s TV show. 😂❤ He was one of Arnold’s bodybuilder competitors and friend. ❤
It hurts my heart for you not to know Lou Ferrigno...the original Hulk from the '70s TV series with Bill Bixby as David Banner. They didn't want to use the name Bruce because they thought it wasn't manly enough. Lou is deaf and played the scariest Hulk when I was growing up. (Yes, I'm old). In the original comic story, Bruce was saving a teenager that trespassed onto a Gamma bomb test range. Bruce managed to save the teen but caught the full brunt of the explosion. His body absorbed the gamma radiation causing the Hulk. In the TV series, David Banner wanted to increase his strength after losing his wife in a car accident and he couldn't lift the car off her. He used gamma rays in a lab setting but it went wrong. For the Hulk to return to being Banner he has to be out of danger and calm. (NO SPOILERS)
Great Job! I was reading through all the comments to see if anyone had given the comic book origin or if I needed to do this.
As someone who grew up with the Hulk TV show, I was beyond excited to see Lou in the part of the security guard. The guy you called Terminator IS the original Hulk
As a Hulk fan, I love this movie. This is the Hulk movie I always wanted. The guy at the end is a villain called The Leader. He is as smart as Hulk is strong.
I tend to forget that this movie is part of the "MCU". It is kind of a bridge from the 2003 "Hulk" made by Universal (that has more of the origin including the relationships between Bruce, Betty, and General Ross). This movie is distributed by Universal as well. So, it is kind of a sequel, shoved into a newly birthed cinematic universe that ends up only keeping some of its parts in latter movies.
Stan, the owner of Stanley's (Paul Soles) actually voiced the Spider-Man cartoon in the late 1960s. He was also in 'The Score' film 7 years earlier with Edward Norton. Lots of little easter eggs, like Norton anti-virus on one of the college computers.
Shannelle - "I like origin stories!"
This movie - "Fuck all that origin stuff!"
Actually they laid out the origin in the opening credits. One of the economy of exposition things I loved about this film.
11:22 Well since you asked...The security guard is Lou Ferrigno, the original 1970's TV Hulk.
"Hulk isn't cute! Hulk is Hulk!"😂
Another nod to the original Incredible Hulk series in the movie was, when early on, as Banner was making dinner, he was watching a TV show called "The Courtship of Eddie's Father" which starred Bill Bixby. Bixby played David Banner in the original Incredible Hulk TV show while Ferregino was the actual Hulk in the TV show.
The big security guard was Lou Ferrigno, who played the Hulk in the 1970s TV series. Bill Bixby, the actor who played Bruce Banner in the series, died in 1993, or they probably would have tried to get him a cameo as well.
He did have a cameo on the tv right before Bruce watches Sesame Street.
Tim Roth as Blonsky is simple but menacing.
The kid on the phone, his last name is McGee. In the old TV show there was a reporter who would follow the Hulk named McGee. In the TV show at one point Bruce Banner says Mr McGhee you don't want to make me angry, you might recognize this reference from Dogma, when Ben Affleck killed that cop. Also the true origin was that Banner was working on a gamma bomb for the military and gets caught up in the blast while trying to save a kid that wanders onto the test site. This origin has not been realized on film, yet
The hulk vs abomination fight scene was filmed in my home town, Hamilton Ontario Canada, my friend watched from work as they launched a car
The guard at the University played the Hulk on the television show
You're gonna have to wait for that Hulktush, but it's coming, don't lose hope.
Thor: "That's something I'll never get out of my brain." 😆
I actually like Hulk 2003. I like think of it as an unofficial film in the MCU.
I enjoy it too.
I follow a lot of CZcams reaction movie channels and whenever a casual non-comic book fan (such as yourself) is just starting to make their way into the MCU, I always feel the need to point out a scene in this movie that probably goes over their head because they don't understand the true significance of it. That's the bar scene with Tony at the end.
In the world we live in now in 2024, the MCU has been around for almost 20 years now so it's become second nature for us to see movies with superheroes meeting and interacting with other superheroes. But prior to this film, every superhero movie created and existed in their own separate canon universes. So you never saw Michael Keaton's Batman pop up in a Superman movie. You didn't see Tobey Maguire's Spiderman show up in an X-Men movie in the early 2000s and interact with Hugh Jackman's Wolverine. 2003's Daredevil, 2003's Hulk, 2004's Punisher, 2005's Fantastic Four.......these were all superheroes that stayed confined to their own movie and didn't show up in other movies.
So when we saw Iron Man pop up in a movie that WASN'T an Iron Man movie, comic book movie nerds (myself included) went insane! In the post-credits scene in Iron Man when Sam Jackson teased putting together the Avengers team, it got fans excited for what was in store for the future. But when Tony showed up OUTSIDE an Iron Man movie and reaffirmed that they WERE in fact putting a team together, it was no longer just a teaser. It was a confirmation to comic book movie fans that something huge and exciting was on the horizon!
18:55 the purple pants are what comic book hulk is known for
The security guard is Lou Ferrigno. He played the Hulk in the original TV series. When Bruce Banner changed Lou Ferrigno took over as the Hulk.
David Banner was the name on the show. Because the director felt “ Bruce “ was too queer of a name. 😂
There was a similar Mr. Green/Mr. Blue plot line in the comics, but Mr. Blue was Betty Ross.
I'm sure someone already mentioned it but Captain America The First Avenger is a great origin story and is still my favorite.
Hulk Smash!
😂😂😂
28:14 We need to remember that when she gets to CA:CW
Oops the actual origin story was called the hulk . Directed by ang Lee.
wait till you see my shock at the trivia section
@@ShanelleRicciobasically the hulk is still owned by another company and can't have a solo movie until marvel or now Disney gets the rights back so that's basically the story behind why he's always in the avengers
Here we go. If you look at the films by Marvel, this will be the only "Hulk" movie with "Hulk" in the title. Back in the 90s, Marvel sold the distribution rights of "Hulk" to Universal. The 2003 film was a Universal film, before Marvel had its own studio. This movie was produced by Marvel Studios but had to be distributed by Universal because of that deal. Since this movie, Hulk has been in several other Marvel films but never in the title so Marvel can still be the distributor. There have been several rumors that Marvel and Universal has made a deal in the past few years to enable Marvel to use "Hulk" in the title and still distribute the film, but nothing has been confirmed.
4:17 When you see Mark Ruffalo play Banner, you'll SEE why he's the better casting choice.
Okay, so the chilled, clear, blue liquid injected into Emil Blonsky's muscle and bone marrow centers was Super Soldier Serum- made him stronger and faster, better performance and reaction.
Then Dr. Samuel Sterns injected gamma-infused blood into him, which made him bigger, taller, monstrous and green.
Basically, The Frankenstein monster that's an evil fusion of
Captain America/Hulk.
Hulk carrying off Betty to a cave on a cliff side has always struck me as an homage to the similar scene in the original King Kong.
And _Swamp Thing._
Tim Blake Nelson (Mr. Blue) is one of the most underrated actors of our time! Check out Old Henry!!
The TV series from 1977-81 is excellent. Unfortunately the only thing people see on the internet are terrible pics and clips from the 80s tv movies. The live action Ed Norton movie takes a ton of story direct from the 70s tv series... but none of the reaction channels are aware of that because none have reacted to the tv series. Shanelle, record yourself reacting to the 2-part pilot of the series. If you hate it, toss it, or throw it for exclusive patreon members. However, it's as good as most modern Marvel movies. Definitely worth posting reactions on youtube. Just wish people knew the difference between the two... Everyone thinks all the memes and clips are from the tv series. The tv series ran for more than 4 seasons... that doesn't happen with garbage shows. 80 episodes.
Bill Bixby had soul
I love the cameos and references to the Incredible Hulk tv show that aired from the late 70's to early 80's. I grew up watching the tv show. I laughed when you made those comments about the security guard. 11:09 that's not the Terminator... That's the Hulk from the tv series lol
BTW, the villain Blonsky became is called "The Abomination".
Blonsky initially got the super soldier serum cap got . Well a variant.
In the comics, Bruce developed the Gamma Bomb under the command of General Ross, and Emil Blonsky was a Soviet spy. Betty Ross fell in love with Bruce because he was not a career military man. In the countdown to detonating the bomb, a teenager trespassed onto the test site. Banner halted the countdown and went to get the teen off the test site. Emil Blonsky restarted the countdown, and Banner threw the teen into a ditch and covered him with his own body, absorbing the full intensity of the bomb, unleashing the Dr. Jekyl/Mr. Hyde transformation.
In the television series in the 70's, a Gamma Bomb was replaced with medical research into Gamma radiation. Bill Bixby and Lou Ferigno were the onscreen David Bruce Banner and Incredible Hulk.
Any movie after rhe series uses the medical research origin, Banner is a fugitive and believed dead by the public.
If you want the origin, watch the tv show and avoid the 2003 Ang Lee HULK. (The only good scene in it was the cameo of Stan Lee and Lou Ferigno together as security guards.)
Woohoo, you finally managed to get it uploaded!
blocked like 6 times since Saturday!!
@@ShanelleRiccio DAYAM! And Big Red's going thru something similar with her American Pie upload. Reactopolypse anyone?
@@ShanelleRiccio WOW what a pain!
@@TheJamieRamone if you haven't seen, it's cleared and up now too.
@@gregmcdonald8962 Ashleigh's video you mean? Yeah, I know. Watched it earlier today. Thanks.
I love this film. Does it have its issues? Yes. However, it does a great job of showcasing the Banner/Hulk dynamic and the loneliness Bruce experiences being on the run. What we need - no, what we WANT - is a true power Hulk movie. The MCU depowered the Hulk significantly.
Hulk 2003 is an origin story while The incredible hulk was an unofficial sequel while introducing Hulk to the MCU.
Backstory: In the 90s Marvel was failing badly. It sold off some of its prominent characters to movie studies to make some money. Hulk, Xmen, Spider-Man and others went to different studios, which is why there's a Hulk 2003. Marvel cannot technically use the Hulk in a standalone film, which is why we haven't seen another Hulk movie.
33:43 - This is a repeat of Big Red accidentally watching The Amazing Spiderman BEFORE the Bully McGuire ones. 😂
Also: Yes, they didn't want to repeat the other one. 'Cause that one's an origin story. But they stopped caring about that now.
Shanelle, glad you're continuing with this series of movies. I think you might find them more interesting by looking at the casting choices made going forward.
Fight club was the Incredible Hulk vs vanisher
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Speaking of which, this movie marks the 4th time that Edward Norton played a character with DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder).
Love this movie!
The color choices for the Hulk character are really fun because it runs counter to the long standing color conventions for heroes and villains. Almost from the beginning, comics have coded heroes with red, blue, and yellow and villains with green, purple, and orange. It's such a well established convention that messing with it subconsciously (or consciously if you know the conventions) tips off the reader/viewer that you should feel uncomfortable because something isn't right. The best examples of Marvel deviating from the convention are either characters who are "monster heroes" like the Hulk (green) and the Thing (orange) or reformed villains like Hawkeye (purple) or Gamora (green).
36:06 - Yeah, that's mainly from the comics.
There was a relationship between Betty and Bruce beforehand. He left her when got Hulk powers. He didn’t want to endanger her. The man she started dating afterwards is in the comics too. He gets gamma powers and becomes Dr Samson. He gets super strength and green hair.
I think it's an underrated film in the MCU. I would've liked to have seen what Norton would've brought to the rest of the films.
Because you asked, "classic Hulk" of the comics transformed when his heart rate was elevated, normally triggered by anger or emotional distress. He was 7ft tall and weighed approx 1,000lbs. There's supposed to be no limit to his strength, because the angrier he gets the stronger he gets.
18:59 - Oh your god! Tell me she didn't give him purple pants!
There is a scene where they use the of sad piano music from the old hulk tv show.
@34:00 Regarding character rights: Put simply, Marvel had solvency issues in the 90s and sold a bunch of film rights to prevent total collapse. This is why we had the Andrew Garfield Spider-Man films (Sony), the Fantastic Four films (Fox), and others. Some of the studios let their rights lapse or sold them back to Marvel, others saw the success of the MCU and tried to capitalize on it. These early MCU films are also before Disney bought Marvel and started aggressively buying back rights.
Most of the non-MCU films will show the Marvel logo, since the characters are Marvel, but they won't show the Marvel Studios logo. Hulk isn't the only Marvel property referenced in the MCU but produced by another company, just the most obvious one.
Oh sweet summer child.... who is the security guard... lol lol lol
Is someone going to tell her? Lol by the way, snarky dialogue is snarky because it's coming from Tony Stark. Bruce banner is not Tony Stark. You don't expect the same dialogue from a completely different character.
Robert Bruce Banner...named after the Scottish king
The Hulk movie with Eric Bana is where you will get the back story of Hulk
Awesome reaction of my favorite Marvel movie!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊😊
Comic book origin story. During the testing of a gamma bomb in the desert. Dr. Banner sees a teenager, Rick Jones on a motorcycle moments before the blast. Dr. Banner races to save him from the explosion. Knocking the boy to safety, Bruce is exposed to the gamma rays. Forever to be the Hulk. Indebted for saving his life. Rick Jones looks out for the doctor when he can help. ✌️
There was an Incredible Hulk TV show in the 70s/80s. Then there was a film in 2003 that was interesting but didn't do all that well. Because audiences already had 2 origin stories, they decided not to waste time and just place us in the middle of Banner's life.
I would highly suggest watching the 2 hour TV pilot. The writer wrote it in iambic tetrameter for some reason but it is really neat. The man who played Hulk in the show plays the security guard in the film.
Originally the Hulk was gray in the comics, but the printer was having trouble with that so they made him green later on.
This is one movie that would really benefit from getting a director’s cut or something. The first act is so quick to the action it’s hard to get invested in the characters, but the deleted scenes really flesh that part out more and I think would’ve elevated the movie by a letter grade.
The other movie before this one is not part of the official MCU, starring Eric Bana that actually shows the origin (if my memory serves me well). Basically it was an accident during an experiment where he was exposed to Gamma Radiation. I think you're right, they didn't want to repeat the story and assumed anyone who saw this one had seen the other.
The Hulk TV Show has a great origin story. David Banner is trying to figure out where people get the extraordinary strength to lift a car when a loved one is trapped underneath. David Banner himself had failed to save his wife in a car accident.
A lot of what they were setting up in this rendition of Marvel story was that there was people that were trying to replicate the Super Soldier Serum that was used on Captain America. The story on him will be explained in his movie but stuff dealing with the Hulk will be somewhat explained in this one but to see and to get a better idea you might have to watch the 2003 movie for an actual origin story or maybe find the original television show from the seventies.
Going forward without spoilers, there are mid and post credit scenes in 90% of all Marvel Cinematic Universe films. keep that in mind
22:46 - Yeah, I got nothing.
That 3rd transformation always gets me with how painful it is for Bruce Banner to transform into Hulk. Also, one of Hulk's abilities is that he draws more strength from his anger. The angrier he gets, the more powerful he becomes. It shows that Hulk can bench-press a tank without breaking a sweat, but his strength is virtually limitless.
To answer any questions on whether or not Hulk can control himself: Bruce Banner's grasp over Hulk depends on HOW he transforms. If it happens voluntarily, Hulk has more of an ability to reason and comprehend things. But if it happens through uncontrollable stimuli like anger, Hulk is the living equivalent of a wrecking ball.
Hulk's origin was covered in the 2003 Hulk movie by Ang Lee (which is sadly not part of the MCU), so they didn't feel that covering it again would be a good idea. There were supposed to be a couple more standalone Hulk movies with Ed Norton, but between creative differences between Norton and Kevin Feige, financial differences (Norton wanted a bigger paycheck), and some copyright issues involving the rights for Hulk and another studio (from that Ang Lee movie), those movies were sadly shelved indefinitely and Norton was replaced with Ruffalo.
The "giant" security guard was none other than Lou Ferrigno. He starred as the Hulk, opposite Bill Bixby as Bruce Banner, in the 70s tv show The Incredible Hulk. Switching between Bixby's 5'9 skinny frame to Ferrigno's 6'5 bodybuilder physique was a relatively effective technique for the show (similar to the physical acting differences Christopher Reeves would do for Clark Kent and Superman roles), considering the limits of what they could do at the time. Ironically, Lou Ferrigno ALSO had a cameo as a security guard in the '03 Hulk movie.
As to the question of whether Banner's mind is still "in there" when he's Hulk, the best answer is "sort of?" Generally speaking (there's a ton of alternative storylines in the comics), Hulk is a distinctly separate personality from Banner, so it'd be vaguely similar to a DID patient whose personalities are aware of each other, and maybe have some flickers of awareness while the other is "in the driver's seat," but they're not truly co-conscious or able to significantly influence the other.
I don't know if this carried over into the MCU but when I was a kid existing on a steady stream of comics, I remember reading that the baseline strength for the Abomination was greater than that of the Hulk but that the Hulk's strength continued to increase as he got angrier.
7:39 - Hopes = dashed. 😁
9:01 - Well, If you look carefully, he's got no shirt, the pants are all ripped up...and he has to hold them up. I think it's safe to toss out the stretchy-clothes theory.
General Ross (dad) is in some future MCU movies. Unfortunately the actor passed, but the MCU still has use for the character and replaced with a top tier actor. Although the first movie with this new actor isn't out yet, but has been filmed.
I'm pretty sure Tim Blake Nelson and Steve Buscemi are quietly the richest actors in the industry. They are in everything.
Hi Shanelle hope you are having an great and awesome day ❤
31:54 - Nope, there's just a prior movie that explains everything. 😉
Outside of the 2003 movie, the Incredible Hulk was also a very popular show in the 80s and still well remembered, it basically had a "The Fugitive" premise where each week Banner would wind up in a new location and help people out of a jam before going on the run, and this flick is kind of adapting that familiar premise (wandering, looking for a cure, helping people). Even the opening "nightmare" evokes part of the show's original opening.
Marvel was always good at having their characters powers come at a cost, Iron Man has his robot suit but he also has a weak heart (and poor impulse control), the Hulk is practically invulnerable but Banner is forced to start from scratch after each incident. I love that they showed how long that can be for him.
A nod to hulk comic fans, the character that Ty Burrell plays is Dr Sampson, who in the comics gets gamma'd up and becomes a weaker, smarter hero.
He’s the only one left to return to the MCU.
15:39 According to the newsreel of this event, the anchor person (or on screen text of the tv) states that the Nokia guy is Jack McGee. In the '70's tv show, Jack McGee was a reporter for one of those rag mags (Nation Inquirer type) who followed sightings of The Hulk.
10:56 Good catch. A lot of people don't catch the whole "Stanley's" = Stan Lee thing.
"Who's the security guard?"... I'm gonna die!!!
Regarding snarky dialogue in the MCU, it's a case of "be careful what you wish for". Especially once Disney takes over.
At least Marvel tried to be a little different in each of the earlier movies.
What’s fun is bixby and Lou ferrigno cameos.
Hulk (2003) by Ang Lee is the real origin movie, this one picks up after that when Bruce fled. It has its detractors but it is stylish and explores the psychology.
@Shanelle Riccio :
About seeing the origin story, it's covered in the previous entry, 'Hulk'with Eric Bana. And it's brought back in some of the sequels. But I don't know if all these before Mark Ruffalo are canon now, but how he became Bruce Banner, is the same, as that is canon. Over-exposure to gamma radiation, in an accident. But I remember one of the sequels making it genetic, and passed down to bruce, which is not according to the comics.
What's a lot of fun is seeing Abomination return...
This is actually the SECOND Hulk movie - the first one starred Eric Bana, Jennifer Connelly, and Josh Lucas, and was directed by Ang Lee
You should check out some of the short films Marvel made to tie into some of these movies, when you get the chance... Specific to this movie, "The Consultant".
Hi Shanelle Riccio,
Wow! I thought the trivia section would have told you the Body Guard was the original Hulk from TV who also worked out with Arnold Schwarzenegger.
- KaizenMaster
2003 was the making of the first HULK movie.
Edward Norton WAS Hulk! Mark Ruffalo just doesn't cut it.
Please. Norton was a liability to this movie, and to Marvel.
Actually Bill Bixby was the best Hulk. Nobody can take that away from him. He pretty much made that character.
Bill Bixby never played the Hulk. @@jesseblack0713
@@patrickseidel8625 Neither did Norton or Ruffalo. 😁
@@patrickseidel8625 you're correct. actually Bill Bixby played Bruce Banner in the TV series, Lou Ferrigno played Hulk.
34:25 - WTF?! No, it's just a straight up sequel! What?
The lab accident is very similar to the TV Show accident that makes the Hulk.
Ang Lee's film is the only theatrical release to show an origin of the Hulk and give us a real reason why Bruce Banner is angry.
Love your reactions! Yes, this movie does a lot of homages to the original TV series, which was modeled after "The Fugitive". Every episode he had a new alias and would wander into some town and end up getting mixed up with some kind of drama, which lead to the Hulk putting an end to it. But then either the police of McGee, the nosy reporter following him, forces him to move on. Banner was played by the wonderful actor the late Bill Bixby, who they briefly show in the movie when he's watching TV at the beginning.
I really liked Edward Norton in this role as well. The only problem is he has a bit of a reputation in Hollywood for arrogance; this lead to Kevin Feige deciding to recast the role with the Avengers. (Supposedly, it was fairly mutual.)
The classic 4-color comic always put the Hulk (who started grey but was later changed to green) in purple pants because it contrasted better and made him unique in a panel compared to other heroes.
Blonsky (The Abomination) was given a serum derived from (very likely) Captain America's blood. In the comics, super soldier serum is very volatile and it often kills the host after only a short time, despite giving them strength and power. You can see that after his 2nd shot he looks pale and sick. It's very likely that the gamma treatment probably saved his life. In the comics, the Abomination IS stronger than the Hulk, but unlike the Hulk, anger doesn't make him stronger. So when the Hulk gets angry enough he can overpower him. (Which was illustrated pretty well in this movie when he reaches up and slowly pulls down the Abomination's arms, who looks shocked that he's being out-muscled.)
On that note, Dr. Samuel Sterns is another Hulk villain in the comics; The Leader. He also was infected with gamma radiation but unlike the Hulk it expands his mind and brain. (Classically he has an enlarged cranium and green skin.) I LOVE Tim Blake Nelson in this role.
William Hurt passed away recently. Thunderbolt Ross has been recast going forward...
I'm old so here's what I'm thinking. I think that your reaction to Clint Eastwood's 1st movie as a Director would be outstanding. It's still one of my favorite Eastwood movies, "Play Misty for Me" (1971) starring Eastwood with Jessica Walters & Donna Mills. The film was shot on location in Monterey, Ca. This is a "thriller" set around the Monterey Jazz Festival. You'll never guess the budget!
The villian is the abonmination sterns is The Leader.