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How to disassemble and maintain the Spyderco Para3 Pocketknife
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- čas přidán 11. 01. 2017
- The Para3 is basically a shrunken-down PM2. And so is the disassembly!
The paper discussed is:
Titov, Andriy. Effect of fullerene containing lubricants on wear resistance of machine components in boundary lubrication. 2004.
Also, note that Spyderco has now changed their warranty policy so that disassembly is A-OK and Red-Loctite is banished. For more information: • Spyderco just fixed th...
To learn more about the tools I'm using, check this video: • Video
I love how much these videos hold their value over time. A guy like me struggling with their first Para 3 scale swap can do a quick CZcams search and find a 3 year old video that answers all his questions. Thanks for making these Nick!
spyderco actually made a statement to say that from now on no more red loctite and that disassembly of the knife does not void the warrant. damage due to disassembly does
I know this is an old video, but I thought I’d add something to maybe give a bit of hope, my new Para 3 arrived on Monday, and I decided to disassemble it today as I’ve been ordering aftermarket parts for it, and instead of red thread locker, I found blue thread locker, which is what he stated in this video was ok. So I’m guessing that Spyderco has had a listen to it’s customers and switched to blue Loctite 😁
Edit: Also, to add, the knife wasn’t difficult at all to disassemble! I mean it took a slight amount of force, but not enough to even remotely threaten the screws of being stripped!
Thanks this gave me the confidence to take my para 3 apart to clean it. I just left the lanyard hole alone and rotated the body to clean inside the scales. I used just a tiny bit of synthetic gun oil on the washers after wiping away some gunk and it's buttery smooth again, quite easy. Thanks!
Thanks Nick!!! I was having action issues with my new para 3. I took it apart and reassemble exactly as you instructed and it’s a million times better. Drop shut with zero blade play. This is awesome. I’m really happy with the end result. I was having doubts about the Para 3 because of the poor out of box action. But this is night and day. Thank you for your advice and instruction.
This guy sounds like Meowth.
LMAO 😂
Hey Nick, thank you for sharing. I recently bought a para3 and used this video as a guide to swap out the scales. It helped a lot.
Nick, the lanyard hole is big, so when you get home at the end of the day, you can hang it on your coat rack. Great video. Your the best.
Nice. The action in my para 3 stiffened up like crazy and I was nervous about taking this apart and putting it back together. Did it while watching and listening to Nick made it so much easier! Smoother than butter now.
Hi, how old is your para3 ? did you also have red Loctite on the screws ? thanks
just found your channel and this is what I am looking for! a well educated, well spoken and funny as all get out person will good content! thank you!!!
Dude I got a new PM3 and had lots of issues with it out the box- couldn’t open or close, terrible alignment and lots of blade play. I saw this video and disregarded the warranty nonsense and took it apart only to find that center piece with the square end crudely shoved in the wrong way… I flipped it around oiled it up and now it is completely fixed! You saved me lots of time and effort- thank you
probably speed assembling for the holidays; probably producing at 101% rn
@@Cahwai ordered it in October.
@@kylekeaveney2393 who knows; i bought another one today.
You *really* ought to include the video which shows the process of heating up the loc-tite and breaking the screws free.
Exactly. Huge detail not mentioned.
Quick 3 seconds hit with torch lighter does the trick
Thanks for putting this video together. My para 3 is long overdue for a disassembly and cleaning. Feeling confident after watching this!✌️
This video was absolutely wonderful. Gave me the confidence to disassemble, clean, lube and put my para 3 back together. ✌️
Nice video and commentary. I enjoyed listening to you as I took apart and re-assembled my Para 3. Thanks for your help!
Would be helpful if you did a video showing how to disassemble it completely. Taking the liner out of the scale on the clip side is something a lot of us don't know how to do.
I am looking for my first nice edc flipper... was about to buy the bugout for a while but as i typed bugout issues into the searchbar, yeah nah.
So i was looking into the para2.
I guess i will buy the 3.
Thanks for showing 👍
I just bought one last week. Love it so far except for the pocket clip. I will be buying a deep carry clip for it
@@siredc4182 I bought one... had to send it back cause of lickstick. In the waiting time I bought a pm2... had to send it back cause even more lickstick.
Received another pm2 with even worse lockstick and had to press the lock with two hands. Opened it... sand the lock bar and bended it back so it has less tension, oiled it up and its okay now.
The 2nd para3 i received is pretty fine though. I like them now :)
I found the para 3 pinches the area of my index finger which is on the compression lock when I flick it open. It catches my finger, between the proximal and middle part of the digital creases. Just thought I would put it out there to see if anybody else is experiencing the same problem.
Nice watch Nick. I can see you enjoy the finer things in life
This is one of those videos I was really looking forward to. Nice job. Love Spyderco but hate the fact they used red tread locker. Have a PM2 made in 2015 and it came with the red devil on it also. The 2 Pm2's I have bolth have the detent ramp on them. Can't wait till I get my PM3.
Nick it's not a lanyard hole. Its to hang the knife on your coat rack at the end of the day. Great video. Your the best.
Hey Nick I recently just picked up a Spyderco para 3 and they are no longer using the Red Devil they're just using about 4 lb of blue Loctite instead
I stripped down my PM2 and fitted Flytanium Titanium Scales and there was no red locktight on mine so it must be a recent thing which sucks Nick!!!
Blade Lover My PM2 came with loads of red loctite it's not that bad if you have a proper tool for working on small screws and if you know when your close to stripping it.
Did it, if you don't mind me asking when did you get it? As mine is about two years old.
Blade Lover the date code on the blade of mine was October 2016
Then that's it, they have just started using red. But don't you agree they shouldn't be doing it as a lot of other knife markers one of which is Benchmade of which I have a lot of respect for. I asked for different pocket clips And also I lost a screw from my Emissary and straight away they sent new ones out for free no questions asked and I live in the UK. "Fantastic"!!!
Blade Lover I can't say I agree with the use of red loctite or the policy of disassembly voids warranty, but from a company prospective they want to cover their ass.
There are many different types of knife carrying people.
People who take them apart,sharpen,clean,etc.
Spyderco has such a reputation like benchmade that lots of working class people get them and never take them apart. When the knife is used they can just send it back and have a like new resharpened spyderco no questions asked.
So yes it is annoying for us that like to tinker and fondle our knifes but it keeps them just that little bit safer for those who don't.
I use a kit called the ifixit kit and it has from t4 to t12 and the driver has a breaker bar so you can get loads of leverage on a correctly seated screw.
I've never stripped a screw or even skipped in the screw head. If it feels like it's going to skip I use a soldiering iron set to 650f for 15 seconds and it turns any threadlock into liquid.
You take the risk of taking apart a knife you need the tools.
It's annoying but that's what you "pay for" in something like a benchmade it's the no questions asked customer service.
Thanks Nick, forgot about the D shaped bit on the pivot and it felt off when I reassembled this time around
Thanks for sharing this! I'll be putting back together my first spyderco similar soon and I'm just so so stoked! Thanks for sharing this with us! Watching from the Cowichan Valley on Vancouver Island in Canada! Cheers, Kimmers and Jerbs #22ADAY I'll never quit quitting 👍🏻🇺🇸🔥🔪🔥🇨🇦👍🏻
My pm2 cruwear has the detent notch in the tang, as well as a polished ball track tang, and red loctite. Three things my old pm2 doesnt have.
all that oil gonna attract a lot of lint. thanks for vid.
Thank you for the heat suggestion, it came apart much easier with my PM3 then my PM2 did last year. Adding flytanium copper scales to a PM3 black blade. Then doing the same to my PM2 but I am also adding a titanium purple backspacer.
Such a great demo! Thanks Nick! 🌹
Nick, would you do a video showing how you heat the knife to lossen the loctite.
John Ferebee I think he gets a soldering iron red hot and holds it to the screw head for 15 seconds. That works for me at least or to the pot of hot water if it's caked in the stuff.
I just use a hairdryer. Which is loud as heck and boring. But I'll do that!
Nick Shabazz When I took apart one of my Paramilitary 2's, I ran into the red loctite menace. I didn't have much luck with the hair dryer option, other than an upset wife. What I found that worked was putting a screwdriver into the screw, and after a couple of good hits from a hammer, the screw came right out. Think it was something to do with the vinrations. I don't recommend trying this with any screwdrivers that are precision, Wiha comes to mind, but good ol Craftsmans did the job for my problem. Thank you Nick for this video!
John Ferebee
Just run the pivot under really hot water to break the loctite
I just used my heat gun and concentrated the heat to the pivot spacer. It came right off.
Nice takedown! Did the first Paramilitary have the bushing pivot like the 2 and 3? I had the first Paramilitary but I never had the Paramilitary 2. Now that I have the Para 3 it seems it's very similar to the first Paramilitary I had years ago. Thanks
Just got my spankin' new Blurple Para3 in S110V delivered today and there was no red locktite on the screws! Also didn't see anything about disassembly voiding the warranty in the warranty paperwork that came with the knife (for whatever that's worth). The knife is super fantastic.
how is that S110V
So i have a question i bought an exclusive… so does the shop put the different scales on the knife or does spyderco?
Only asking because my brand new para3 did not have Loctite. Figured out that the Handle T8 screws can also utilize a T7 and that is how i got the one side out. Held one side with a T7 and loosened the other with T8
Love your video on this knife, may I know how do you make Para 3 blade 'FREE DROP' ?
I've owned 3 paras and sold 2 because of lock stick. Im just dealing with the lock stick on my most recent para 3, not sure what's going on, it seems everyone doesn't have issues whereas everyone I touch has bad lock stick on the stop pin every time!
where is the cheapest place to get replacment screws for a para 3? I'm missing one of mine and just want to find the cheapest route. Mine are black btw.
Thanks Nick and Andrew.
Yeah that red thread locker has got to go! Great video as always Nick👍👍
My Paramilitary 2 is one of my favorite and most-carried knives, but I simply cannot get it tuned to have that kind of drop-free action without introducing a little side-to-side play.
Hi Nick,
Do you have the name of the article about the nano oil? Nice vid btw, have the Para 3 on the way with a custom titanium deep carry clip.
hey everyone , my para 3 (s30v) black digi cam. has lock stick....... i hate it.......might get rid......how can i get rid of this stick please ? i have had 3 parmilitary 2's 2 are perfect i sold the third (lock stick) thanks guys.
RED Loctite? WTF!!! Spyderco... You know this can backfire? Right? Actually i'm waiting for two Spydies at the moment, Para 3 and a PM2 Bentobox sprint in M390. Thanks for Sharing Nick.
I hate the lanyard tube. I usually end up swinging one side so the knife is 180 degrees and lube it by flipping upside down. It's a pain. Sad they didn't fix that on the Para 3. 😞
With the action that smooth was there any blade, like any at all at 13:42?
The lanyard tube was stupidly peened on my pm2. Lightly chucked it in my drill press & took a smooth file to it. Problem solved before installing my Caveman aluminum scales on it - which would have gotten really ugly or impossible.
Mine has the detent ball ramp btw - and (had) blue Loctite (now purple applied).
great how-to video, Nick. Much appreciated. I have a Para 3 with a black DLC coated blade. The action, right out of the box, has a lot more friction than my other satin-bladed Para 3. Is it because of the DLC coating, or does the knife's locking action need some tweaking? Thanks.
Is Loctite really necessary? I ask because I used BLUE Loctite recently on two ZT 0452 Carbon Fiber knives and BOTH of them got so tight that I had to send them back to Kai USA for them to remove the pivot screw. I'm not a "brute" or he-man and I doubt I torqued them down that much. I just rarely have any knife's screws slip that much so I question the need to use Loctite in the first place.
My PM2's have that ramp too. All of them
It's such a shame that some of the best companies in the world are incorporating such anti-consumer methods into their manufacturing. However, there's a huge difference between the ones that listen to their customer's needs and walk back these practices and the ones that continue forward regardless. It's effectively choosing profit margins over the customer.
Thanks for keeping it real and speaking up Nick. Now that I think about it, you're probably one of the main reasons that I'm able to service most of my Spyderco-llection and not worry about warranty turmoil.
I could not get my pivot screw to budge so I decided to leave it and try again later. It’s only a week old. Any tips on the heating technique used mr Shabazz?
If and when a blacked out DLC coated blade version comes out, ill be all over it!
You could try using Kroil on the area between the scale and the liner. If I wanted to replace the pivot and scale screws with blacked ones, how would I go about doing that?
I just ordered my para3 in maxamet which will get to me on time for Xmas. I sure hope they're not using that red locktite.
strange about the locktite. Monday I just got the carbon fiber knife center exclusive manix 2. the pivot had absolutely no locktite at all in it. that surprised me, but I'm totally okay with it. strange that your para 3, likely built within days of my manix was treated so differently
Joe Merritt How do you like your manix 2 so far?
Sadistically Sharp I love it. I've had a regular g10 manix for years. always liked it, but it's a bit heavy, and the Saber grind wasn't the best thing in my eyes. the carbon fiber one is just perfect, easily the best spyderco I've had. free dropping blade without a hint of play, no nasty edges anywhere, super light for the size. it's near perfect.
Joe Merritt I think it will be my next purchase. Thanks for the response. 👍
I just want to put it out there that it's actually not legal under the Magnuson Moss warranty acts for disassembly to void the warranty. Spyderco would have to demonstrate why disassembling it damages it and voids the warranty they can't just assert it. The same thing applies to those warranty void if removed stickers as well.
my pm2 has a ramp for the detent ball but I got mine like a month ago so it may be a new thing
Do they still use red loctite to this knife? I am thinking about getting one if this guy but kind if hold me back by the red loctite as I am really bad at dealing with red loctite.
I modded my PM3 with a Bedazzled kit, then reassembled it with locktite blue as to not offend Mr. Shabazz. It’s pretty swank, I tell ya’!!!!1. 😆
Hey Nick! What model Wiha bit wrench are you using there? It looks awesome! Great upload!
Nickshabazz.com/tools
@@NickShabazz Thanks dude!
Hey Nick... So Spyderco puts red threadlocker on the pivot screw too? You mean they do not even want you to adjust the pivot screw if there is blade play?
Yep. Uggggggly.
I just purchased my first PM2 and first spyderco. What do you think about Ballistol oil as a lubricate. I have used it on my other knives
Okay I had to clean my para 3 and i put it all back together but it's really loose when you close it but super tight when you open it and there is a little play in the blade now just a little but it bothers me anyone have any idea what the hell i did wrong
Like the videos. I have a PM 2
My PM2 has a detent ball ramp as well. I wonder if other compression-lock knives have the same?
spyderco actually sent me a whole set of screws for my manix 2 about 6 months ago
Nick, how did you heat the knife to loosen the red evil?
As he mentioned ,hairdryer or try a soldering iron put the heated tip in the middle of the torx head and let the heat work its magic . Hope this helps.
Do you have a video where you do take out the lanyard tube?
Should I use locktite on my pivot?
After a couple of uses it has bladeplay
yes, but use the blue one
Hi, is the pocket clip the same like the pm2? So is it interchangeable? Thank you
+1988dirk Indeed!
So the deep pocket 3rd party clips for the pm2 will fit the Para3?
What heat source did you use to soften the locktite?
Are they still using the red loctite on the newer Para 3's ? Looking to install new scales
Guys i lost the washer for my para 3 while disassembly the knife please help, idk what is the measurement for it
They won’t send a replacement screw if someone strips one out?
If it really is Loctite™ 271, it will take a bit more than a hair drier to melt it. I suspect it is some other red thread locker. Another interesting feature of Loctite™271 is that the prevailing torque is higher than the breakaway torque.
This is from www.loctiteproducts.com/tds/T_LKR_RED_tds.pdf
"Loctite® Threadlocker Red 271TM is designed for the permanent locking and sealing of threaded fasteners. The product cures when confined in the absence of air between close fitting metal surfaces. It protects threads from rust and corrosion and prevents loosening from shock and vibration. It is only removable once cured by heating up parts to 500°F (260°C)."
"Clean-up
Clean adhesive residue immediately with a damp cloth. Cured product can be removed with a combination of soaking in methylene chloride and mechanical abrasion such as a wire brush.
For disassembly, heat parts up to 482°F (250°C) and separate parts while hot."
My para 2 has that detent ramp!
Is it possible to lubricate using Nano Oil without disassembling it?
Purchased a Para 3 with the Maxamet steel in Canada just this past winter and decided to disassemble my knife entirely approximatly 2 months after purchasing it when it got so loose from fidgeting with it that one of my hinge screws dropped right out and I ended up finding absolutely zero loctite on any of the screws at all when I finally took it all apart to clean and lubricate. I'm assuming they must have stopped the practice completely or they missed one. Lol. Actually, going to use some of the blue or orange loctite cause I'm tired of the screws confinuing to back off like you have. Cheers.
7:35 that's what she said
Do you need loctight ?
How do you heat your knives to deactivate the lock tight?
I honestly don't understand how to get the lanyard tube out without destroying it. No one takes it out on camera.
Hey nick I’m getting ready to take apart my para 3 which is in mint cond. any suggestions ??
why would you take apart a mint condition knife?
"Spyderco’s knives are assembled to exacting tolerances by trained technicians, so we discourage end users from disassembling or adjusting our knives. If a knife has been disassembled and reassembled correctly-so as to maintain its proper mechanical function-this warranty remains in full effect. However, if a knife has been disassembled and reassembled in such a way that, in Spyderco’s sole determination, the proper mechanical function of the knife has been compromised, it is no longer covered by warranty."
I have asked them to clarify before I do anything.
Can you try to put the knife in hot water?
It's because it's t8 plus torx, not t8.
My screws fell out day 1
I suspect it's the legal weed in Colorado that is affecting the construction. Still, a competent knife if one can just leave it alone and not fiddle with it.
But what fun is that?
How did you heat it to get the red lock tight lose?
What torx number is needed for the clip?
t6
Lockstick? Thx for the vid.
I too love nano-oil.
Hey Nick!
"MABY" ill buy a Shirogorov 111 from USA. ( Iam from Europa)
Would you be interested to review it first?
Markus: Thanks, but I'm trying to do less international shipping. But I appreciate it :)
So spyderco ruined the knife before you got it, nice. I don't think they are so heavy on the TL as they used to be. I think they have mellowed a little now with regards to disassembling your own knife, that you paid for and own
Ive ever disassembled any knives.
But always throw them into ultra sonic washer and blow them dry.
Put a few drop of lube is good to go!!!!!
what kind of bit kit do you have?
How did you heat up the screw?
delav83 try using a hairdryer or heat gun.
Link to the paper on the lube? Please share.
See the video description :)
Just Google it - it's the second link that comes up. From the New Jersey Institute of Technology - all 169 pages of it free for your enjoyment!
Nice. Thank you.
You ok, Nick? You sound a bit under the weather.
Man that lanyard hole is obnoxious