League definitely has a tutorial. You might have accidentally skipped it or something. And it does have a beginner mode, bots. Bots do not do strategies like ganking/cc chain/turret diving/ etc. and intro bots buy very bad items for their champ/role. League is definitely easier for beginners due to it's lower complexity. It shows recommended build paths for items and abilities (which change depending on your role), jungle path recommendations, and it is just a simpler game in terms of objectives. I agree with most of your other categories but after playing both games for a while League is certainly easier to pick up on for beginners.
Thanks for the video! First thing I will mention is that there is a tutorial in league of legends although I haven't played it in years so I don't know how good it is. It should be the intro difficulty setting in COOP vs AI. Secondly, my personal preference is league of legends because the entry point into DOTA was simply was too difficult for me to generate much motivation to play it. Perhaps it works reverse as well for dota players learning league, but needing to learn what an entire roster of new champions and items do is a rather daunting task now that those rosters are so large (not to mention micro/macro).
Yeah i definitly feel the same thing, League is cool but not enought to make a change because im used to Dota, now that im used to every hero and item i dont want to learn everything again!
I came to the different conclusion even though I still played Dota when I first tried League and I haven't looked back at Dota since then. I was able to grasp almost all champions' abilities in a few weeks tho. Here's how I actually learned League. 1. Locked champions was actually a good thing for me. I kept my champion pool to 3-5 for first two to three weeks and tried to learn their item build paths. It wasn't that difficult because most of the items were passive and passive effects were rather obvious in what they do. What stats you want on your champions then what effects you want to counter your opponents. So I thought I would rather invest my early matches to play a few champions and learn them instead of messing around with different champions. For me, I wouldn't want someone who is fairly new to Dota to pick Invoker because it is popular and already "unlocked" and threw the entire match. Plus, the advantage is when you somehow re-rolled a skin for champion you haven't unlocked and you don't want it, you can either trash it for some essence or reroll again. 2. ARAM helps a lot learning the champions' abilities. I spent more times playing ARAM then playing normal game mode. 3. Most champion's abilities are very basic and not complicated, so they are mostly easy to identified. Dashes, CCs, pure damage abilities, etc. Just playing one or playing against one the first time should be enough for you to know the entire champion kit. Lately League introduced a few complex champions but they are not so broken that you can learn at your own pace. 4. I guess that before you hit game level 30, you will be paired with those who are around your same level unless the others are in premade. Because I rarely played against one or two high level players when I started.
Nice video, I played both dota and league (divine on dota and gold on league) Some of the things you forgot to mention in the video are 1-Legue is overall much less complex then dota so if you like less complex game then league is better for you 2-I think overall league heroes average is more complex then dota but since there is no in league like dota that makes is overall less complex game. 3-League is way more toxic in my opinion there is almost not a single game where a guy is flaming another in ranked matchmaking. other than that the video is really great just I would liked more if you mentioned the items as well.
Yeah you are probably right, my opinions are completely based on these 10 games and i avoided as much as I couls to get outside or community opinions, I really like how people didnt got heated and just gave their opinion so thank u 😄 Hope you liked the video and have a great day!
@@DotaDose_ sorry about my spelling mistake on (2) so let me rewrite it. 2-I think overall league heroes average is more complex then dota but since there is no complex items in league like dota items that makes the game overall less complicated. For example no bkb no blink, no shadow blade... Ty for understanding my reasons, judging a game just based on 10 20min games are not easy.
I love your video. I have played both and although Dota is really fun for me the clear winner is league. It really depends on if you like more an strategic aproach or a mechanical one. Not saying that league doesn't have strategies or Dota doesn't have mechanical complex heroes but they aren't the focus. League is more about mobility, damage and individual skill for the most part, CC's are very limited on purpose. I'm really enjoying to see all this Dota players try league. For the most part Dota2 Community has a really toxic view of league and the league community doesn't even know what Dota2 is even with all the history between the two games. You should check out Grubby and Tzar Potato. Grubby has experience in both Heroes of the Storms and Dota2 and is now making a series learning League, in his videos he does a really good job at comparing all three mobas and pointing out the strengths each one of them have over the other. Tzar Potato is a player of both games who does mostly comparison videos in an objective and critical way. Really which to see more overlap in the MOBA's community!!
I really liked the video and think its pretty cool for a Dota player to try out League. I played League for probably 6 years and Dota for 2 years and this would be my rating: Graphics: League 1:0. But I would like to mention that Dota Map Skins and Creep Skins are a really awsome concept which League should probably adapt. But the overall graphic and Skins goes to League. Toxicity: League 2:0. Dota toxicity is just beyond comprehenstion. Especially the russian people in the voice chat. Queuing speed: Dota 1:2 Heroes: League 3:1. Dota has some really cool heroes like Invoker but in my opinion the Dota Champs just feel really weird and not smooth at all. Most challenging: Dota 2:3, its just the overall harder game. More starter friendly: League 4:2. The tutorial is pretty good in my opinion. Best Game League.
I think the graphics is really the one you are most used to because i really cant get myself to like leagues graphics. As for begginer friendly i found out it actually had a tutorial, but it seemed very incomplete compared to the dota one that has a guide for everything. There is a lot of people that are saying lol is more toxic but the russians are genuanly so anoying on dota Still best game is the one u like the most
@@DotaDose_ Well when I am honest I havent touched Dota in like 3-4 years and tutorial havent touched in probably 7 so that is kind of a bad rating from me because I dont know how it is right now compared to past then. And the graphics is really a personal thing, but in my opinion the "realistic" graphics looks weird to me, but it is kinda "creepy" and the atmosphere is kinda spooky in dota thats pretty cool. In League everything looks kinda lika a cartoon but the colours and effects and map animations are just to beautiful for me. To sum it up both games are good and both communitys are too toxic to beef with each other so they should stay in their community.
toxicity is subjective, it also depends a lot on the regions from my experience, DotA chats are mainly just trashtalk without much meaning behind it, even with the Russians and Philippines. but in LoL, they're actually insulting you at personal level. LoL Tutorial is very incomplete and only teaches you the barebone, you will need to learn the majority of gameplay outside the tutorial, esp if you want to go high in the ranking. DotA's tutorial has better pacing imo, the tutorial also has something to tech you even after many playing hours instead of being a "one and done" deal like LoL. You can also get coaches to help with your journey pretty easily in DotA, and if you just admit that you're new or learning a new hero/role, 99% of the times nobody would blame you for your mistakes, they would even try to help you get better. imo DotA is actually more welcoming to new players, despite being more complicated. DotA graphics is objectively better. DotA heroes have turn rate by design, so it will feel a clunky when you want to kite, like run away and use an ability backward. there's a bit of realism in it - but this is purely subjective. LoL champions clearly have better mobility by design, and you dont have to work hard to get it, on the other hand DotA heroes needs some investment to get there - so this is subjective too. As mentioned in the video, LoL champs mostly give you instant gratification because abilities are designed for damage rather than control, as well as free mobility, giving you a feeling that that a fight is more fast paced. items focuses mainly on stats rather than changing how you play your champs. on the other hand, DotA heroes are incomplete by design, giving you rooms for customization. this is also purely subjective and can't really be judged. in short, most stuff are subjective. play whatever you enjoy more
As a league player I can say that I've tried dota before but it just doesnt click Maybe because there's so much stuff that you have to keep track of, and you can never really enjoy the game cuz you're always like "ah fk, I forgot to call the donkey" and "ahh fk i forgot to buy scrolls" and stuff like that Meanwhile in league (if you are just playing casually) you can just go to lane and play the game, no need to worry about paying attention to anything else, you can just go to a lane, fight an opponent and have fun trying to outplay him And that's something else; having fun. In Dota I didn't really have fun cuz, no offense, the champions might be broken and have crazy abilities and complex kits, but they just feel super slow, sluggish, with no flow, rime or reason in their abilities. Like, sure league champs are simple compared to Dota's, but they are fun to play. It feels good to land your skillshots and outplay your opponent, it feels good to have kits that synergize with themselves and flow so well. So basically, I guess I enjoy league's gameplay better, and to me that's what matters most
Maybe im just used to it but it is not that hard for me to keep track of stuff and do everything, like my rank is not the highest 😅 but i think both are pretty enjoyable and people deecribe dota 2 as this impossible game when its not that hard
If you want to play dota you have to play with ur friend that already knew how to play, it much easier that way They can teach you the basic stuff, like how to lane, and where to ward Dota pretty much like hell the first 1-2 thousands hours, after that it just breeze cuz you actually know what you arr doing by that time
Its fun, but its boring I play alot of mobilemlegend, wr and arena of valor, so im sure when i say lol style of moba sure fun and the skill is flashy, but it become boring alot faster
Personally i think only the first 200 hours are "hell", rn im at 1k and I know most of the mechanics and as my rank is not that high I can prosper and win on most games
Starter friendly definitely incorrect because League has a tutorial. The fact that it says "Tutorial" in the game mode selection screen and it was totally blanked out is just an unfair comparison. Furthermore, I associate "starter friendly" more than just "hey, there's a tutorial." It's how easy it is to "pick up the game" as a whole, in which League definitely wins. I tried Dota 2 once, stuck in loading screen forever because I didn't realise you had to click something to go into the game, and by that time, five minutes of the game had passed, and it was pretty much over since the enemy had five players who knew what they were doing and our team were all starters like me. Needless to say, that doesn't encourage anyone to return. Toxicity is also incorrect. League was voted the most toxic community by far and won by a landslide. Yes, Rito has tried to address this, and yes, it's been curbed, but the players remain the most toxic in the community, even if it's not expressed in words alone. You haven't had the full experience of League to begin fathoming the toxicity.
Thanks for clearing it out i this was mostly based on my experience in the game only and that is what the video is about. Anyway thanks for the feedback and you are probably right, thanks and have a great day!
Interesting take, I am a LoL player nowadays, but I can see where you coming from. If I were to comment on some topic... Graphics: Yes, it's childish, its cartoonish, and as you said it's preference. Though one thing that triggers me on Dota is that the clarity of seeing some stuff is kinda messed up sometimes because there's no clear visual distinction. Heroes (and itens): It's a fucking mess on LoL. Some can build anything, others only work with some. Some are just status checkers and other's have more mechanics than a woman on her sensitive period (hope my wife doesnt read this) many of them you can play everywhere and some basically nowhere and are a balance pain. As for itens, I would just say I hate Dota's 'probability' stuff, like chance to evade and so on. Starter friendly: I honestly think both suck for a new player, but Dota is better. LoL has a lower ceiling or u to play 'good enough' while Dota is way above. On the other hand Dota tries better at the tutorials,and are great! LoL Tuto is insufferable. Then again, if you wanna go further on any game you would CZcams it for more stuff, so... kinda makes LoL faster to learn.
Yeah im figuring now that League had a tutorial but i thinks its pretty hard to have a better tutorial that Dota 2, but even with a good tutorial its still about practise and experience. Gotta say i actually like the probability stuff sometimes its fun but its very triggering somethimes. I love seeing people that play both Dota and League here, keep it up and have a great day.
League does have a tutorial. It barely passes as a tutorial but they have it. It teaches you right click to move kill minions and turrets thats it. Also I've played league for thousands of hours and I can still admit Dota is better. I just wish I had friends to play dota with
Also its not just your opinion. League graphics are like a decade old at this point and they were outdated when at their release too :D So my ratings go Graphics - Dota 2 Toxicity -Dota 2 (Only toxic community that can rival league was Overwatch) Queue speed - Dota 2 (I had to wait 6 min for a quick match. Where is the quick in that? Dota is harder League is easier to start. Cant speak on fun cause I havent had fun with league in a long time. Even the new gamemodes like Arena are not fun. and URF us the biggest shithole ever made
the lower elo you are the slower the load speed is actually because a lot of them have bad pcs haha If everyone is on an ssd or nvme good internet and pc its like 2 seconds. Also been playing dota over christmas currently 50 hours disagree on the complex dota heroes a few are most require 0 skill every single hero in dota auto attacks even if you build magic stuff some do it better than others. But the actual game of dota is complex with the size of the map, jungle and items.
The part about dota being more challenging than league is a bit "Dunning-Kruger effect". You have played 10 league games, most likely with other new players. This is not enough to learn the depth of league. You definitely cannot grade both games on the topic "challenging" with only 10 games. FYI league does have a tutorial which you are required to play on new accounts before you can start bot games. It is under the tab "training" at 1:45
@@mitchlymer you can get all champions with xbox game pass but besides that by level 30 which is when you get ranked you will have like 40-60k Blue essence some champions cost 375 some cost 1350, 3150, 4800, 6300, 7800 depending on release date i think. Most people in league play 1-3 champions so will never play all of them anyways as champions in league are way more mechanically demanding and its far to difficult whereas in dota most heroes are simple but you require understanding of the game and if you can play the game you can play the hero as everyone auto attacks.That is not the same in league even pros will not dare play certain champions as there not good enough to pull it off where some pros will as they have good hands. An example of this is the item Force Staff in dota 2 it works a lot like flash in league more than blink dagger and give you outplayability and safety. So if you can use the mechanics of the force staff to make your hero excel more you will be a better player items like that dont exist in league as that kind of item exists inside a champions kit or is used like the summoner spell flash. So if you have good force staff knowledge you can build that on any hero in dota 2 who can use it and excel with it. I used to think Dota 2 was insanely difficult but after playing it over christmas its actually not and im quite enjoying it the only hero that i have tested in demo that hurt my brain is Invoker as you need to memorise a lot more before you play it and how to combo. Most other heroes auto attack like master yi (one of the most simple league champions who stomps low elo) have 2 damage abilities and 2 amplify or 2 cc abilities. So its like Axe blink taunt turn on blademail hit kills, legion commander blink ult kill stack ult, heroes that have illusions like Naga Siren, Arc Warden, Puck are very good and require like RTS skills but that isnt what league players class as mechanical skill even though it is one so if you can farm multiple waves and jungle you stack gold so fast on these. But you will never persuade a league player that running in with different clones of puck and kiting low hp ones out is mechanically harder than Akali, Zed, Riven, Yasuo, Yone, Gangplank, Ekko, Fiora, Katarina, Sylas, Aphelios, Ezreal, Draven and Jayce it just isnt going to happen and then the mechanical kiting of ad carrys. - czcams.com/video/PRS_llkCmpY/video.html&ab_channel=GLHF - Also dota will never have this much - czcams.com/video/NolHvXjZA4A/video.html&ab_channel=%EB%A1%A4%EC%9D%BD%EB%82%A8LOLNAM
@xazarl3381 I agree with you that for beginners, League is better. Only for absolute beginners to RTS and MOBA, though. More for girls or non-gamers. Great for playing with a group of skill diverse people. Dota is easier to learn for those who already have mechanical skills and understanding of MOBA. Everything you need to learn is there, and you can start right away. You even know with Invoker. There's nothing near its complexity, especially situationally, in League. Sure, there are a few 2 button heroes, but that's the majority of league. You don't have to aim most spells they always hit. In Dota, target spells are the minority so even supports have to have some mechanical skill. I didn't realize that the Xbox game pass was free. If it is, then you can get all the heroes for free. If not, then it's still p2w, even requiring a time commitment before you have all the heroes bizarre for MOBA. Even if players stick to a small hero pool, they need access to demo all the heroes to understand how they work. Otherwise, they have no idea how to play against their timings. Plus, you can't click on the heroes to see what they do. If not unlocked, you have literally no clue how to build against them on the fly.
Great video bro Actually i haven't tried LOL But i think the idea of u have to buy hero to use them is very p2w And by watching this video i guess dota 2 is way to good because its depending on team work In dota there is always a way to comeback when u r losing But the worst part in dota is the toxicity and smurfing and the u need to play tons of hours to get win and to know what to buy to counter other hero Great video my friend and hope u still make video about dota 2
I thought so too but that really isn't a problem as you can basically get them all for free within 6 months if you play continuously. The more stupid problem is that until you haven't unlocked all heroes, you can't mess around in demo mode for those heroes like you could in Dota. This means that for the first 4 months and so, you have absolutely no idea what enemy heroes do. You can't even click on them and read their abilities like you can do in Dota. This massively bottlenecks the learning speed in my opinion.
Personally I think that league can snowball really hard, but only at top levels of play. You win or lose games while the losing team is multiple levels, items and objectives behind because your team is better at coordinating than them. The main problem is that pre 20 or so minutes you kinda play alone, mid can roam and jgl ganks but top lane is so isolated, it's nickname is "the island"
1. Dota is, literally, older league. 2. League is, trust me, MUCH MORE TOXIC. 3. If you think League champs aren't complex, that's because you're literally playing the simplest champions in the game. You'd have a sensory overload if you had to read abilities from champs like Akshan or Aphelios. Great video overall.
On your first point, Dota has never stopped with updates, which completely changes the game every so often. So being older doesn't mean anything. For hero complexity, each hero in Dota has a secondary skill tree and shard items that give extra skills. The depth of choice is much greater for different situations. Also, for hero complexity, in Dota, you can practice with any hero. In the league, you can't even train on the heroes until you lock them. So you have no idea what the enemy heroes even do, just have to guess for minimum 6 months.
Yeah just by reading some comments i am finding out how lucky I was not finding the more toxic people on my games, i totally get your point about the hero depth that makes a lot of sense, but it was the conclusions i got out of only 10 games, thanks for the feedback tho. Hope u liked it have a great day 🤜🤛
@@DotaDose_ you need to create new account to play on different server on league for some reason. tho I have no Idea this guy is saying you need to change your server.
Dota 2 player here, divine rank. I played league twice. Once vs bots and one vs noobs. I had 20plus kills both games with Anri Ahri whatever its called. A friend told me: you just have to go mid, ward nonstop and press botons on enemies. I thought everyone would experience the same as I did and end up leaving the game.
league is shit, but dota is worse, still i play both of them
Facts
@@DotaDose_ still i think ranked lol is prolly the most degen thing ever cause of how fucked the mmr ir
Nah i swear ive been trying to rank up but i win 5 games then lose 1 and win like 10%
@@DotaDose_ i swear bruv i have 2 acc one is plat
other is harstuck bronze 3 and i don't int those games
Ahahahaha thats crazy
League definitely has a tutorial. You might have accidentally skipped it or something. And it does have a beginner mode, bots. Bots do not do strategies like ganking/cc chain/turret diving/ etc. and intro bots buy very bad items for their champ/role. League is definitely easier for beginners due to it's lower complexity. It shows recommended build paths for items and abilities (which change depending on your role), jungle path recommendations, and it is just a simpler game in terms of objectives. I agree with most of your other categories but after playing both games for a while League is certainly easier to pick up on for beginners.
Yeah i acidently missed out on that tutorial I found out now 😅
"What game is the best?"
Hollow Knight, there, done.
Never tried it 🤷♂️
1 Sekiro 2 eldenring 3 bloodborne
Thanks for the video!
First thing I will mention is that there is a tutorial in league of legends although I haven't played it in years so I don't know how good it is. It should be the intro difficulty setting in COOP vs AI. Secondly, my personal preference is league of legends because the entry point into DOTA was simply was too difficult for me to generate much motivation to play it. Perhaps it works reverse as well for dota players learning league, but needing to learn what an entire roster of new champions and items do is a rather daunting task now that those rosters are so large (not to mention micro/macro).
Yeah i definitly feel the same thing, League is cool but not enought to make a change because im used to Dota, now that im used to every hero and item i dont want to learn everything again!
I came to the different conclusion even though I still played Dota when I first tried League and I haven't looked back at Dota since then. I was able to grasp almost all champions' abilities in a few weeks tho. Here's how I actually learned League.
1. Locked champions was actually a good thing for me. I kept my champion pool to 3-5 for first two to three weeks and tried to learn their item build paths. It wasn't that difficult because most of the items were passive and passive effects were rather obvious in what they do. What stats you want on your champions then what effects you want to counter your opponents. So I thought I would rather invest my early matches to play a few champions and learn them instead of messing around with different champions. For me, I wouldn't want someone who is fairly new to Dota to pick Invoker because it is popular and already "unlocked" and threw the entire match. Plus, the advantage is when you somehow re-rolled a skin for champion you haven't unlocked and you don't want it, you can either trash it for some essence or reroll again.
2. ARAM helps a lot learning the champions' abilities. I spent more times playing ARAM then playing normal game mode.
3. Most champion's abilities are very basic and not complicated, so they are mostly easy to identified. Dashes, CCs, pure damage abilities, etc. Just playing one or playing against one the first time should be enough for you to know the entire champion kit. Lately League introduced a few complex champions but they are not so broken that you can learn at your own pace.
4. I guess that before you hit game level 30, you will be paired with those who are around your same level unless the others are in premade. Because I rarely played against one or two high level players when I started.
The fact can grapsh all hero in lol in few weeks proof league hero not have depth, all of them pretty much play the same 😂😂😂
Nice video, I played both dota and league (divine on dota and gold on league)
Some of the things you forgot to mention in the video are
1-Legue is overall much less complex then dota so if you like less complex game then league is better for you
2-I think overall league heroes average is more complex then dota but since there is no in league like dota that makes is overall less complex game.
3-League is way more toxic in my opinion there is almost not a single game where a guy is flaming another in ranked matchmaking.
other than that the video is really great just I would liked more if you mentioned the items as well.
Yeah you are probably right, my opinions are completely based on these 10 games and i avoided as much as I couls to get outside or community opinions, I really like how people didnt got heated and just gave their opinion so thank u 😄
Hope you liked the video and have a great day!
@@DotaDose_ sorry about my spelling mistake on (2) so let me rewrite it.
2-I think overall league heroes average is more complex then dota but since there is no complex items in league like dota items that makes the game overall less complicated. For example no bkb no blink, no shadow blade...
Ty for understanding my reasons, judging a game just based on 10 20min games are not easy.
I love your video. I have played both and although Dota is really fun for me the clear winner is league. It really depends on if you like more an strategic aproach or a mechanical one. Not saying that league doesn't have strategies or Dota doesn't have mechanical complex heroes but they aren't the focus. League is more about mobility, damage and individual skill for the most part, CC's are very limited on purpose.
I'm really enjoying to see all this Dota players try league. For the most part Dota2 Community has a really toxic view of league and the league community doesn't even know what Dota2 is even with all the history between the two games. You should check out Grubby and Tzar Potato. Grubby has experience in both Heroes of the Storms and Dota2 and is now making a series learning League, in his videos he does a really good job at comparing all three mobas and pointing out the strengths each one of them have over the other. Tzar Potato is a player of both games who does mostly comparison videos in an objective and critical way. Really which to see more overlap in the MOBA's community!!
thanks bro, thats great to hear!
Nice vid bro but for boy I'd recommend ezreal and jhin but ezreal was better choice since he isn't as squishy as most bot laner
Thanks for the tip il try it
There is a tutorial for league though? It's much more starter friendly with jg pathing rec, item rec and very clear lanes to learn.
Yeah I learned that now 😅
Still think dota beginer mode is very usefull and il definitly try the tutorial on league to see if i Change my mind.
I really liked the video and think its pretty cool for a Dota player to try out League. I played League for probably 6 years and Dota for 2 years and this would be my rating:
Graphics: League 1:0. But I would like to mention that Dota Map Skins and Creep Skins are a really awsome concept which League should probably adapt. But the overall graphic and Skins goes to League.
Toxicity: League 2:0. Dota toxicity is just beyond comprehenstion. Especially the russian people in the voice chat.
Queuing speed: Dota 1:2
Heroes: League 3:1. Dota has some really cool heroes like Invoker but in my opinion the Dota Champs just feel really weird and not smooth at all.
Most challenging: Dota 2:3, its just the overall harder game.
More starter friendly: League 4:2. The tutorial is pretty good in my opinion.
Best Game League.
I think the graphics is really the one you are most used to because i really cant get myself to like leagues graphics.
As for begginer friendly i found out it actually had a tutorial, but it seemed very incomplete compared to the dota one that has a guide for everything.
There is a lot of people that are saying lol is more toxic but the russians are genuanly so anoying on dota
Still best game is the one u like the most
@@DotaDose_ Well when I am honest I havent touched Dota in like 3-4 years and tutorial havent touched in probably 7 so that is kind of a bad rating from me because I dont know how it is right now compared to past then. And the graphics is really a personal thing, but in my opinion the "realistic" graphics looks weird to me, but it is kinda "creepy" and the atmosphere is kinda spooky in dota thats pretty cool. In League everything looks kinda lika a cartoon but the colours and effects and map animations are just to beautiful for me.
To sum it up both games are good and both communitys are too toxic to beef with each other so they should stay in their community.
Nice conclusion 😅
toxicity is subjective, it also depends a lot on the regions
from my experience, DotA chats are mainly just trashtalk without much meaning behind it, even with the Russians and Philippines. but in LoL, they're actually insulting you at personal level.
LoL Tutorial is very incomplete and only teaches you the barebone, you will need to learn the majority of gameplay outside the tutorial, esp if you want to go high in the ranking. DotA's tutorial has better pacing imo, the tutorial also has something to tech you even after many playing hours instead of being a "one and done" deal like LoL. You can also get coaches to help with your journey pretty easily in DotA, and if you just admit that you're new or learning a new hero/role, 99% of the times nobody would blame you for your mistakes, they would even try to help you get better. imo DotA is actually more welcoming to new players, despite being more complicated.
DotA graphics is objectively better.
DotA heroes have turn rate by design, so it will feel a clunky when you want to kite, like run away and use an ability backward. there's a bit of realism in it - but this is purely subjective. LoL champions clearly have better mobility by design, and you dont have to work hard to get it, on the other hand DotA heroes needs some investment to get there - so this is subjective too.
As mentioned in the video, LoL champs mostly give you instant gratification because abilities are designed for damage rather than control, as well as free mobility, giving you a feeling that that a fight is more fast paced. items focuses mainly on stats rather than changing how you play your champs. on the other hand, DotA heroes are incomplete by design, giving you rooms for customization. this is also purely subjective and can't really be judged.
in short, most stuff are subjective. play whatever you enjoy more
As a league player I can say that I've tried dota before but it just doesnt click
Maybe because there's so much stuff that you have to keep track of, and you can never really enjoy the game cuz you're always like "ah fk, I forgot to call the donkey" and "ahh fk i forgot to buy scrolls" and stuff like that
Meanwhile in league (if you are just playing casually) you can just go to lane and play the game, no need to worry about paying attention to anything else, you can just go to a lane, fight an opponent and have fun trying to outplay him
And that's something else; having fun. In Dota I didn't really have fun cuz, no offense, the champions might be broken and have crazy abilities and complex kits, but they just feel super slow, sluggish, with no flow, rime or reason in their abilities.
Like, sure league champs are simple compared to Dota's, but they are fun to play. It feels good to land your skillshots and outplay your opponent, it feels good to have kits that synergize with themselves and flow so well.
So basically, I guess I enjoy league's gameplay better, and to me that's what matters most
Maybe im just used to it but it is not that hard for me to keep track of stuff and do everything, like my rank is not the highest 😅 but i think both are pretty enjoyable and people deecribe dota 2 as this impossible game when its not that hard
Lol mobile player 😂😂
If you want to play dota you have to play with ur friend that already knew how to play, it much easier that way
They can teach you the basic stuff, like how to lane, and where to ward
Dota pretty much like hell the first 1-2 thousands hours, after that it just breeze cuz you actually know what you arr doing by that time
Its fun, but its boring
I play alot of mobilemlegend, wr and arena of valor, so im sure when i say lol style of moba sure fun and the skill is flashy, but it become boring alot faster
Personally i think only the first 200 hours are "hell", rn im at 1k and I know most of the mechanics and as my rank is not that high I can prosper and win on most games
Starter friendly definitely incorrect because League has a tutorial. The fact that it says "Tutorial" in the game mode selection screen and it was totally blanked out is just an unfair comparison.
Furthermore, I associate "starter friendly" more than just "hey, there's a tutorial." It's how easy it is to "pick up the game" as a whole, in which League definitely wins. I tried Dota 2 once, stuck in loading screen forever because I didn't realise you had to click something to go into the game, and by that time, five minutes of the game had passed, and it was pretty much over since the enemy had five players who knew what they were doing and our team were all starters like me. Needless to say, that doesn't encourage anyone to return.
Toxicity is also incorrect. League was voted the most toxic community by far and won by a landslide. Yes, Rito has tried to address this, and yes, it's been curbed, but the players remain the most toxic in the community, even if it's not expressed in words alone. You haven't had the full experience of League to begin fathoming the toxicity.
Thanks for clearing it out i this was mostly based on my experience in the game only and that is what the video is about.
Anyway thanks for the feedback and you are probably right, thanks and have a great day!
you were playing in the brazilian server with 200+ ms lol
Yeah someone called that out but it came like that
Interesting take, I am a LoL player nowadays, but I can see where you coming from. If I were to comment on some topic...
Graphics: Yes, it's childish, its cartoonish, and as you said it's preference. Though one thing that triggers me on Dota is that the clarity of seeing some stuff is kinda messed up sometimes because there's no clear visual distinction.
Heroes (and itens): It's a fucking mess on LoL. Some can build anything, others only work with some. Some are just status checkers and other's have more mechanics than a woman on her sensitive period (hope my wife doesnt read this) many of them you can play everywhere and some basically nowhere and are a balance pain. As for itens, I would just say I hate Dota's 'probability' stuff, like chance to evade and so on.
Starter friendly: I honestly think both suck for a new player, but Dota is better. LoL has a lower ceiling or u to play 'good enough' while Dota is way above. On the other hand Dota tries better at the tutorials,and are great! LoL Tuto is insufferable. Then again, if you wanna go further on any game you would CZcams it for more stuff, so... kinda makes LoL faster to learn.
Yeah im figuring now that League had a tutorial but i thinks its pretty hard to have a better tutorial that Dota 2, but even with a good tutorial its still about practise and experience.
Gotta say i actually like the probability stuff sometimes its fun but its very triggering somethimes.
I love seeing people that play both Dota and League here, keep it up and have a great day.
Just play mobile legend bro XD its have the same graphic as lol
League does have a tutorial. It barely passes as a tutorial but they have it. It teaches you right click to move kill minions and turrets thats it. Also I've played league for thousands of hours and I can still admit Dota is better. I just wish I had friends to play dota with
Also its not just your opinion. League graphics are like a decade old at this point and they were outdated when at their release too :D
So my ratings go
Graphics - Dota 2
Toxicity -Dota 2 (Only toxic community that can rival league was Overwatch)
Queue speed - Dota 2 (I had to wait 6 min for a quick match. Where is the quick in that?
Dota is harder
League is easier to start.
Cant speak on fun cause I havent had fun with league in a long time. Even the new gamemodes like Arena are not fun. and URF us the biggest shithole ever made
we lost another one smh
LOL if you like more action game
dota 2 if you like strategic game
this is the simple way tell people 2 difference game i think
I have some playing time on dota, proceed to show 1000 hours
Its not even a number yet XD
ahahahaha that's crazy
how many you got?
why does bro play on 200-300 ping
Aparently im in brasilian servers 🤷♂️
the lower elo you are the slower the load speed is actually because a lot of them have bad pcs haha If everyone is on an ssd or nvme good internet and pc its like 2 seconds. Also been playing dota over christmas currently 50 hours disagree on the complex dota heroes a few are most require 0 skill every single hero in dota auto attacks even if you build magic stuff some do it better than others. But the actual game of dota is complex with the size of the map, jungle and items.
Thats cool bro I hope you like your Dota experience
The part about dota being more challenging than league is a bit "Dunning-Kruger effect". You have played 10 league games, most likely with other new players. This is not enough to learn the depth of league. You definitely cannot grade both games on the topic "challenging" with only 10 games.
FYI league does have a tutorial which you are required to play on new accounts before you can start bot games. It is under the tab "training" at 1:45
You can't train on heroes until you unlock them. Which is either p2w or minimum 6 months commitment consistently playing.
@@mitchlymer you can get all champions with xbox game pass but besides that by level 30 which is when you get ranked you will have like 40-60k Blue essence some champions cost 375 some cost 1350, 3150, 4800, 6300, 7800 depending on release date i think. Most people in league play 1-3 champions so will never play all of them anyways as champions in league are way more mechanically demanding and its far to difficult whereas in dota most heroes are simple but you require understanding of the game and if you can play the game you can play the hero as everyone auto attacks.That is not the same in league even pros will not dare play certain champions as there not good enough to pull it off where some pros will as they have good hands.
An example of this is the item Force Staff in dota 2 it works a lot like flash in league more than blink dagger and give you outplayability and safety. So if you can use the mechanics of the force staff to make your hero excel more you will be a better player items like that dont exist in league as that kind of item exists inside a champions kit or is used like the summoner spell flash. So if you have good force staff knowledge you can build that on any hero in dota 2 who can use it and excel with it.
I used to think Dota 2 was insanely difficult but after playing it over christmas its actually not and im quite enjoying it the only hero that i have tested in demo that hurt my brain is Invoker as you need to memorise a lot more before you play it and how to combo. Most other heroes auto attack like master yi (one of the most simple league champions who stomps low elo) have 2 damage abilities and 2 amplify or 2 cc abilities. So its like Axe blink taunt turn on blademail hit kills, legion commander blink ult kill stack ult, heroes that have illusions like Naga Siren, Arc Warden, Puck are very good and require like RTS skills but that isnt what league players class as mechanical skill even though it is one so if you can farm multiple waves and jungle you stack gold so fast on these.
But you will never persuade a league player that running in with different clones of puck and kiting low hp ones out is mechanically harder than Akali, Zed, Riven, Yasuo, Yone, Gangplank, Ekko, Fiora, Katarina, Sylas, Aphelios, Ezreal, Draven and Jayce it just isnt going to happen and then the mechanical kiting of ad carrys. - czcams.com/video/PRS_llkCmpY/video.html&ab_channel=GLHF - Also dota will never have this much - czcams.com/video/NolHvXjZA4A/video.html&ab_channel=%EB%A1%A4%EC%9D%BD%EB%82%A8LOLNAM
@xazarl3381 I agree with you that for beginners, League is better. Only for absolute beginners to RTS and MOBA, though. More for girls or non-gamers. Great for playing with a group of skill diverse people.
Dota is easier to learn for those who already have mechanical skills and understanding of MOBA. Everything you need to learn is there, and you can start right away.
You even know with Invoker. There's nothing near its complexity, especially situationally, in League. Sure, there are a few 2 button heroes, but that's the majority of league. You don't have to aim most spells they always hit. In Dota, target spells are the minority so even supports have to have some mechanical skill.
I didn't realize that the Xbox game pass was free. If it is, then you can get all the heroes for free. If not, then it's still p2w, even requiring a time commitment before you have all the heroes bizarre for MOBA.
Even if players stick to a small hero pool, they need access to demo all the heroes to understand how they work. Otherwise, they have no idea how to play against their timings. Plus, you can't click on the heroes to see what they do. If not unlocked, you have literally no clue how to build against them on the fly.
Yeah it is obviously pretty hard to get solid conclusions out of 10 games, but that was the point of the video, thank u for clearing it out!
Great video bro
Actually i haven't tried LOL
But i think the idea of u have to buy hero to use them is very p2w
And by watching this video i guess dota 2 is way to good because its depending on team work
In dota there is always a way to comeback when u r losing
But the worst part in dota is the toxicity and smurfing and the u need to play tons of hours to get win and to know what to buy to counter other hero
Great video my friend and hope u still make video about dota 2
it really isn't pay to win. it's all free.
I thought so too but that really isn't a problem as you can basically get them all for free within 6 months if you play continuously. The more stupid problem is that until you haven't unlocked all heroes, you can't mess around in demo mode for those heroes like you could in Dota. This means that for the first 4 months and so, you have absolutely no idea what enemy heroes do. You can't even click on them and read their abilities like you can do in Dota. This massively bottlenecks the learning speed in my opinion.
@@dangerx69 Google em
@@dangerx69 thankfully you can get a short summary of their abilities in the death report or when you go to the champions page
Personally I think that league can snowball really hard, but only at top levels of play. You win or lose games while the losing team is multiple levels, items and objectives behind because your team is better at coordinating than them.
The main problem is that pre 20 or so minutes you kinda play alone, mid can roam and jgl ganks but top lane is so isolated, it's nickname is "the island"
Why are you playing in Brazil with 200ms? XD
No idea 😅
1. Dota is, literally, older league.
2. League is, trust me, MUCH MORE TOXIC.
3. If you think League champs aren't complex, that's because you're literally playing the simplest champions in the game. You'd have a sensory overload if you had to read abilities from champs like Akshan or Aphelios.
Great video overall.
On your first point, Dota has never stopped with updates, which completely changes the game every so often. So being older doesn't mean anything.
For hero complexity, each hero in Dota has a secondary skill tree and shard items that give extra skills. The depth of choice is much greater for different situations.
Also, for hero complexity, in Dota, you can practice with any hero. In the league, you can't even train on the heroes until you lock them. So you have no idea what the enemy heroes even do, just have to guess for minimum 6 months.
Yeah just by reading some comments i am finding out how lucky I was not finding the more toxic people on my games, i totally get your point about the hero depth that makes a lot of sense, but it was the conclusions i got out of only 10 games, thanks for the feedback tho.
Hope u liked it have a great day 🤜🤛
Bro play the tutorial and learn how to do it after play the real moba dota 2
What?
tu é br mn?
ss :)
my guy you are playing in a south america server, you need to change it
Oh fr how do i do that?
@@DotaDose_ you need to create new account to play on different server on league for some reason. tho I have no Idea this guy is saying you need to change your server.
Dota 2 player here, divine rank. I played league twice. Once vs bots and one vs noobs. I had 20plus kills both games with Anri Ahri whatever its called. A friend told me: you just have to go mid, ward nonstop and press botons on enemies. I thought everyone would experience the same as I did and end up leaving the game.
Lol is trash