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  • A searing investigation of a once-iconic company and its tragic failures, DOWNFALL: The Case Against Boeing exposes how Wall Street’s influence and Boeing’s crumbling internal culture resulted in two historic plane crashes, 346 fatalities, and a shocking cover-up. Directed and produced by Rory Kennedy. Produced and co-written by Mark Bailey. Executive produced by Brian Grazer and Ron Howard.
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  • @KB-bh9hp
    @KB-bh9hp Před 2 lety +6500

    My grandfather was a propulsion engineer on the original 737, 747,757, and 767. He said this is what happens when the opinions of executives overrule the concerns of engineers.

    • @sayyedameerarkhisro1464
      @sayyedameerarkhisro1464 Před 2 lety +302

      The world doesn't learn. This happened repeatedly. When engineer's are overruled or taken for granted

    • @inosurrender8327
      @inosurrender8327 Před 2 lety +290

      And who gets fired and license revoked and possible incarceration? The engineer

    • @Gossypol
      @Gossypol Před 2 lety +42

      Damn! This is deep man.

    • @Rohit-qo6vh
      @Rohit-qo6vh Před 2 lety +82

      That's what happened with Challenger too

    • @carlosbermudez1240
      @carlosbermudez1240 Před 2 lety +134

      “Opinions of executives” tend to affect so many industries, it’s crazy. Like why the hell do companies hire professionals if they’re not gonna fully trust them? Some how executives always have the final say in matters they don’t understand.

  • @sreejupremarajan6169
    @sreejupremarajan6169 Před 2 lety +1311

    The pilot of this aircraft, Captain Bhavya Suneja was my classmate and a dear friend. Lost him to such a tragic accident. May his soul rest in peace! 💐

    • @junejulyaugsep
      @junejulyaugsep Před 2 lety +69

      It's maddening to think what his family must have gone through. They labelled him incompetent and questioned his qualification.. imagine having to read about your loved one like this 💔

    • @krownzilla
      @krownzilla Před 2 lety +44

      @@junejulyaugsep What's infuriating is they made these assumptions and accusations even before the black boxes were found.

    • @ACPilot
      @ACPilot Před 2 lety +2

      Sorry for your loss. Sadly he wasn’t a great pilot 🤷‍♂️

    • @krownzilla
      @krownzilla Před 2 lety +22

      @@ACPilot How did you know that?

    • @ACPilot
      @ACPilot Před 2 lety +2

      @@krownzilla A good pilot would be able to trim the aircraft back to being in trim, then disable the trim by using the trim cutout switches.

  • @Incidental104
    @Incidental104 Před 2 lety +2818

    I remember when Boeing tried to blame the Indonesian and Ethiopian inspector and governments for the crashes, they said "Those are underdeveloped countries with poor infrastructure and poor laws on aircraft maintenance" disgusting how even when they knew what the problem was they tried to blame the "poor nations" for it....

    • @Avantime
      @Avantime Před 2 lety +190

      Blaming pilots isn't new for Boeing unfortunately. When the 737 Classic crashed due to the rudder hardover design flaw back in the 1990s, Boeing blamed the (American) pilots.

    • @ezefinkielman4672
      @ezefinkielman4672 Před 2 lety +13

      Well 80% of aircraft accidents are pilot error. But also, there is never one single reason for an accident: there are multiple factors. Pilot btw.

    • @songyanghe8893
      @songyanghe8893 Před 2 lety +200

      @@ezefinkielman4672 80%? you just came up with the number huh

    • @TheRscott903
      @TheRscott903 Před 2 lety +80

      @@songyanghe8893 he's not smart

    • @itskeagan3004
      @itskeagan3004 Před 2 lety +59

      Of course they’d blame anyone but themselves-even worse they chose to look down on other countries. Typical narcissist/CEO behavior, not all Americans are like that!

  • @SlayNetwork
    @SlayNetwork Před 2 měsíci +70

    This aged like fine wine but now we need part 2 given what just happened

    • @ElysiumCreator
      @ElysiumCreator Před 2 měsíci +7

      They almost certainly had a hand in John Barnett’s death

    • @tomnguyen1015
      @tomnguyen1015 Před měsícem

      Boeing will again pay billions in fines, escape with no prosecution, the US government $core some cash, and the victims again lose in the end.

  • @ClaUDiishmoO
    @ClaUDiishmoO Před 2 lety +7471

    Netflix seriously be bringing such a variety to us, honestly their documentaries are top tier! I learn something new each time

    • @jesusislord6545
      @jesusislord6545 Před 2 lety +19

      Repent to Jesus Christ
      “Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God.”
      ‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭1:3-4‬ ‭NIV‬‬
      K

    • @emmadiri7189
      @emmadiri7189 Před 2 lety +30

      I know right? I remember a friend telling me to never board a Boeing plane but I never understood why. This documentary will definitely give me the answers, we love to see it 😊

    • @arikanami
      @arikanami Před 2 lety +43

      @@jesusislord6545 jesus is not GOD, he is a messenger of GOD

    • @watchlistsclips3196
      @watchlistsclips3196 Před 2 lety

      The thing he said is everything to do with airplanes

    • @TheJerbol
      @TheJerbol Před 2 lety +3

      If only they were actually objective

  • @Clematisch
    @Clematisch Před 3 měsíci +293

    I think this needs a sequel.

    • @strider029
      @strider029 Před 3 měsíci +10

      This sounds wrong, I don't want more deaths.
      But it already has a sequel waiting to happen that's for sure.

    • @chaitanyarao5546
      @chaitanyarao5546 Před 3 měsíci +7

      It’s a crying shame this is a possibility, this company made headlines for developing the most iconic aircraft and now it makes headlines for being a joke.
      The bean counters need to go and the engineers need to take charge, bring it back to its glory days.

    • @atulkumar943
      @atulkumar943 Před 3 měsíci

      Yea ofc

    • @MB66_
      @MB66_ Před 3 měsíci

      facts

    • @tsikiniteasmr2538
      @tsikiniteasmr2538 Před 3 měsíci

      hes talking about the door flying off@@strider029

  • @DNL470
    @DNL470 Před 4 měsíci +66

    This documentary needs an update

    • @dltn42
      @dltn42 Před měsícem +6

      YES.. with the investigation of the Boeing Whistleblower assassination

    • @benyahianaima7947
      @benyahianaima7947 Před 4 dny

      @@dltn42 And the door

  • @daisydove3336
    @daisydove3336 Před 2 lety +193

    It hurts me watching this as an indonesian myself, especially with the part where Lion Air exchanging email with Boeing, raising concern regarding additional training to their pilots. Lion Air itself is really one airline i would personally would not fly with, however seeing this really breaks my heart to families that been affected by the crash. It’s sad that greed and company’s profit are more important than integrity.

    • @jasonj7755
      @jasonj7755 Před 2 lety +1

      Shame on Boeing I watched it money 💰 over safety and trying to compete with airbus shame on Boeing RIP 🙏🏿 to the people who died lion and Addis Ababa

    • @HarryFeetHappy
      @HarryFeetHappy Před 2 lety +1

      Rip corruption on boeing

    • @michaelnacevski
      @michaelnacevski Před rokem

      You people have no idea why was aoa sensor replaced with a second one and not from Boeing ?????

    • @lovinglifeforreaal5689
      @lovinglifeforreaal5689 Před rokem

      @@michaelnacevski who you calling you people???

    • @michaelnacevski
      @michaelnacevski Před rokem

      @@lovinglifeforreaal5689 meaning people in this chat .

  • @raygunn.
    @raygunn. Před 2 lety +2800

    Rest In Peace to all the lives that were lost and condolences to the families.

    • @joerandom435
      @joerandom435 Před 2 lety +4

      Nobody asked your opinion N word
      And i dont wanna hear that you speak on holy comment section becuz u know what? Your bad English makes comment section sick N word

    • @user-gv8vi9gh3o
      @user-gv8vi9gh3o Před 2 lety +1

      @@joerandom435 hell yeah

    • @fynkozari9271
      @fynkozari9271 Před 2 lety +11

      Lives were lost because some old men trying to cut corners and be cheapskates.

    • @slimeadda111
      @slimeadda111 Před 2 lety +1

      Hi

    • @timur162007
      @timur162007 Před 2 lety +2

      @@joerandom435 Your English is way worse.

  • @gte717v
    @gte717v Před 2 lety +2991

    When a CEO says “It’s time to turn this engineering firm into a profitable business,” you know what’s going to happen to safety and quality. Some businesses just aren’t meant to run with wide profit margins.

    • @KabbalahSherry
      @KabbalahSherry Před 2 lety +166

      Tell that to our Healthcare system. 🤷🏻‍♀️🙄

    • @aspolleen452
      @aspolleen452 Před 2 lety +10

      @100 3 what are you talking about?

    • @PedroRodriguez-kg4bq
      @PedroRodriguez-kg4bq Před 2 lety +28

      Yep another company like this is house builders - should be a civic duty to build high quality, carbon neutral homes for reasonable price for a country

    • @PedroRodriguez-kg4bq
      @PedroRodriguez-kg4bq Před 2 lety +31

      Quickly learning that capitalism is fine but requires strict regulation and taxes to feed back and fix big inequalities and problems capitalism creates !

    • @MDgp5dl
      @MDgp5dl Před 2 lety +12

      They wanted to compete with AirBus and look what happened . Total nuts they are .

  • @joshuamuhuthia7437
    @joshuamuhuthia7437 Před 2 lety +136

    When people get greedy, lives are lost. Those billions of dollars made by Boeing cannot compensate for the irreparable loss to any of the 346 people that died. Truly shocking.

    • @theboontz58321
      @theboontz58321 Před 2 lety

      Those billions of dollars have already been los because of this, and even more have been lost on the market value

  • @bigjanyway2224
    @bigjanyway2224 Před 2 lety +263

    As a Boeing employee, words cannot express my shame for the lack of accountability for the leaders of a once proud aerospace leader. Boeing now is only a mere shadow of what was a proud, innovative fantastic company. The Chicago leadership only have concerns about stock dividends and their bonus percentage. The IAM, SPEEA,salary folks still take the greatest of pride about building the best, safest aircraft in the world. Unfortunately leadership talk the talk but never walk the walk. 25 million dollars severance to the disgraced CEO. The man who was personally responsible for the tragic deaths of 300+ souls. To the families of those who lives will forever be touch by these events, we those build the planes want you to know that ever bolt, rivet and flight system we put in is done with your sacrifice in the front of minds. You will NEVER be forgotten by us. To us safety is all that matters. May you one day find peace.

    • @visionist7
      @visionist7 Před 2 lety +18

      After the victims and their families the next victims are you hardworking Joes who spend their days toiling to produce the best plane you can, only to be spat on by the clowns in suits.

    • @Fearchance
      @Fearchance Před 2 lety

      Facts!

    • @carocarochan
      @carocarochan Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you for your kind words.

    • @Cryo837
      @Cryo837 Před 2 lety +5

      Boeing executives used to be engineers who worked themselves up to positions like CEO. Now big companies get their CEOs from non-related companies. Look at Scully from the pop industry taking over Apple. Then he fired Jobs....Apple was a sinking ship until Jobs came back.

    • @nataliaan
      @nataliaan Před 2 lety

      Your words made me cry. Thank you!

  • @Rodnyet
    @Rodnyet Před 2 lety +3678

    I love Netflix documentaries and that was a tragic story that I was definitely interested in learning more about.

    • @FORZA0VELOCITA
      @FORZA0VELOCITA Před 2 lety +37

      Same. No other streaming services compares to Netflix documentaries.

    • @jesusislord6545
      @jesusislord6545 Před 2 lety +9

      Repent to Jesus Christ
      “Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God.”
      ‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭1:3-4‬ ‭NIV‬‬
      J

    • @jakes_on_a_plane
      @jakes_on_a_plane Před 2 lety +12

      @@jesusislord6545 kookoo

    • @thejeffinvade
      @thejeffinvade Před 2 lety +8

      China grounded Boeing 737Max after the first crash, while FAA didn't ground the plane immediately after the second crash, they did it only after Europeans grounded the plane. In hindsight the prudent way is always the better way.

    • @reviewhead
      @reviewhead Před 2 lety +12

      I wish they would release a doc about the Malaysia flight that disappeared.

  • @phoenix15_
    @phoenix15_ Před 2 lety +414

    Right when Boeing thought everyone forgot about this

    • @MrKlyde44
      @MrKlyde44 Před 2 lety +21

      Ay chill bro I work at Boeing😅 y’all better not cancel them, I need my coins

    • @mibox8302
      @mibox8302 Před 2 lety +79

      @@MrKlyde44 tell that to the dead family members, I'm sure they will understand that your paycheck is more important that a a plane of dead people

    • @scarecrow108productions7
      @scarecrow108productions7 Před 2 lety +8

      @@mibox8302 Ikr, And 0:41
      Everytime I see his face...I do this 🖕🖕🖕. Because why? You know why. 🖕 You Dennis Muilenberg. You murderer!

    • @maazkalim
      @maazkalim Před 2 lety +5

      Remember when the military-contractor Boeing®'s fanbois vociferously attacked a notorious international news-outlet for exposing all of the same in their undercover-documentary no less than 8 years ago?

    • @KabbalahSherry
      @KabbalahSherry Před 2 lety +6

      @@MrKlyde44 - You better go apply at a company that gives AF about human lives in that case, cuz you ain't gonna find much sympathy here. 🤷🏻‍♀️🙄 Your paycheck ain't as important as the MILLIONS of us who fly on these planes every damn year. Boeing might sign your checks but they wouldn't give 2 rat's sh*ts if your loved ones had been on these planes, I promise you. Multi billion corporations like this have to be FORCED to do the right thing, or they'd happily watch thousands of us die, if it meant they could increase their profit margins.

  • @krishnasaurabh5636
    @krishnasaurabh5636 Před 2 lety +58

    Being an engineer from automotive industry, it just made me more sensatized about the safety critical projects we work on. This documentary is also an eye openor for many engineers

  • @ummulchair2522
    @ummulchair2522 Před 2 lety +129

    Amazing Documentary. Hit close to home because it happen in my country, and the way Boeing blame it on our airlines even called them stupid and mock them on the document is beyond disgusting.

    • @ceciliagarding4271
      @ceciliagarding4271 Před 2 lety +2

      so very true

    • @keithcarlton2054
      @keithcarlton2054 Před 2 lety +1

      I am sorry for how they mocked them, that was rude and inexcusable. That being said, the pilots of those flights were categorically at fault. I am a pilot and the actions of those guys is what caused the crash. Yes the system failed but normal flying abilities and actions would have resulted in a safe return to landing.

    • @tryomama
      @tryomama Před měsícem

      ​@@keithcarlton2054shut up you Boeing paid cybertooper.

  • @DonLionel
    @DonLionel Před 2 lety +271

    I remember when they blamed Ethiopian Airlines Pilots for being "too young" and that developing countries don't train well their pilots. PURE EVIL

    • @genitaltrickmaster
      @genitaltrickmaster Před 2 lety +3

      I mean.knowing how to recognize and stop a trim runaway is something all American commercial pilots are taught.

    • @LordIstar
      @LordIstar Před 2 lety +60

      The most ironic thing is that the pilot for the Indonesian flight was actually trained in the U.S. It’s not the responsibility of the pilot to correct for a broken sensor and adjust according to a flight system they weren’t even made aware. This was Boeing’s flight, 100%.

    • @bigjanyway2224
      @bigjanyway2224 Před 2 lety +9

      So true, plus the prick CEO recieved a 25 to 30 million dollar severance package. should have gotten 346 life sentences in a third world prison.

    • @fakuri913
      @fakuri913 Před 2 lety +1

      Of course they sells the defect product to developing nation, and sells the good one to rich nation because we're less worth for them to care.

    • @ceciliagarding4271
      @ceciliagarding4271 Před 2 lety +1

      Who needs Satan when you see this pure satanic work of greedy CEOs!

  • @ratgirl669
    @ratgirl669 Před 2 lety +1373

    “This crew would have been fighting for their lives in the fight of their lives” damn that gave major goosebumps

    • @ralphfrasca4168
      @ralphfrasca4168 Před 2 lety +77

      And that was sully the guy who landed the airplane in the Hudson River!

    • @never_forget9431
      @never_forget9431 Před 2 lety +1

      Yep me too

    • @Inspadave
      @Inspadave Před 2 lety +5

      The crews are the reason for the two crashes.

    • @jaredsilvers2782
      @jaredsilvers2782 Před 2 lety +59

      @@Inspadave k Boeing

    • @nxxxlooo5726
      @nxxxlooo5726 Před 2 lety +3

      I saw the video of passengers boarding the plane like a usual day.. its so chilling to see it after what happened

  • @masiver1161
    @masiver1161 Před 2 lety +8

    I’m Indonesian, I lost my very humble best friend in that flight. Cici, I miss you very much.

  • @madcancer7
    @madcancer7 Před 2 lety +80

    I just finished it. What an excellent documentary and I like how the got the actual Captain Sully in the court and talk about it. He knew how terrible it was to have people question your experience and qualifications when all you wanted at that time was to do things right and save everyone.

    • @LeeKnowsCatss
      @LeeKnowsCatss Před 2 lety +4

      This part. Even in the comments a few people are STILL trying to blame the pilots after we know what happened now

    • @keithcarlton2054
      @keithcarlton2054 Před 2 lety

      In the air it doesn't matter what you want or how pure your intentions are, only what you actually do. However sad it is, the truth is the pilots of those planes on those days were inept and did not respond properly to the situation. Very simple actions were all that was necessary to save the day and they simply did not do those things, regardless of how pure their intentions. None of this is to demean anyone, I am a pilot and just trying to explain some of these aviation events where the reality is very different from how the media makes it seem.

    • @snafu98104
      @snafu98104 Před 2 lety

      yes this awful but paying aircraft mechanics less than $500.00 a month and all these aircraft go down in south asia or africa or ukraine. Yes these countries don't have the schools as in America . so isn't it common sense to train harder in less developed countries mh80 was lost in this theater of operation. What boeing should do is not sell these complicated jets to third world countries. I worked on boeing helicopters they are the best three flight control systems even power steering I was grilled for 6 months before i could even do safety wire on any nut but i was Army. Take these mechanics from Indonesia and africa and work on our military aircrafts no fuckin way . these governments are so corrupt and it flows downhill Once again netflix gets it wrong they should of asked or did research on the Maintenance logs i looked at enough of them I would ground all their aircraft for FOD in the flightline. don't blame the american companies that you beg for our technology. Do your maintenance and have the balls to say it's your fault. would you let a doctor from indonesia operate on you or doctors from africa do your kidney transplant . i want to blame boeing because of cooperate greed but i can't .I am not surprised how we have a stupid culture in america or just plain dumb thank God i joined the military and didn't go to college

    • @LeeKnowsCatss
      @LeeKnowsCatss Před 2 lety +7

      @@snafu98104 your comment has a lot of generalisations (and frankly racist overtones) and it seems you cannot accept that Boeing was at fault here. So I won't even bother trying to have a logical conversation with you

    • @snafu98104
      @snafu98104 Před 2 lety

      @@LeeKnowsCatss I'm sorry you need to do your research I worked on Helicopters ch-47's in the Army "I CAN'T FIX STUPID"

  • @anna.tnguyen
    @anna.tnguyen Před 2 lety +552

    I got shivers watching this and it brought back memories of the day I heard about the news. My prayers still go out to those families

    • @machallamorning6653
      @machallamorning6653 Před 2 lety +1

      Hello gorgeous

    • @jesusislord6545
      @jesusislord6545 Před 2 lety +2

      Repent to Jesus Christ
      “Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God.”
      ‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭1:3-4‬ ‭NIV‬‬
      J

    • @troa_misty
      @troa_misty Před 2 lety +2

      True . And the last news was even more disheartening...cause they said the pilot was suicidal... the media didny really help much unless its paying the view.

    • @machallamorning6653
      @machallamorning6653 Před 2 lety +1

      Hello

    • @jb894
      @jb894 Před 2 lety

      it was bad training.

  • @DjsAviation
    @DjsAviation Před 2 lety +648

    Going to be a tough watch but intruiged to see what comes from the release

    • @jeremypr
      @jeremypr Před 2 lety +14

      it was a safety flaw that killed people, and it put pilots at a disadvantage trying to pull up an uncontrollable aircraft.

    • @susivarga7303
      @susivarga7303 Před 2 lety +1

      Nothing.

    • @htth613
      @htth613 Před 2 lety

      The Vortex - Betraying God and Country by Church Militant.

    • @jesusislord6545
      @jesusislord6545 Před 2 lety +4

      Repent to Jesus Christ
      “Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God.”
      ‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭1:3-4‬ ‭NIV‬‬

    • @velarod3961
      @velarod3961 Před 2 lety +8

      @@jeremypr I'm fairly sure Dj already knows that :)

  • @LTdan457
    @LTdan457 Před 2 lety +974

    This isn’t just a problem with Boeing putting profits over safety, this is a lack of government oversight when the FAA allowed them to perform their own certifications

    • @OnePingOnly
      @OnePingOnly Před 2 lety +12

      A common third party left out of the discussion is the airlines operating the airplanes themselves. Many lobbied heavily for a plane built on the 737 airframe but with increased efficiency and that it require no additional training for pilots. This, along with loose regulation oversight by the FAA and an increasing money over safety culture in Boeing lead to this situation unfortunately.

    • @Avengerie
      @Avengerie Před 2 lety +25

      @@OnePingOnly no airline “lobbied” for “a plane built on 737 airframe but with fuel efficiency and no additional pilot training”. That’s preposterous. Boeing simply recognised that this is the only way they are beating Airbus, which is why they commenced the development of the Max model and marketed is as fully compatible with 737 pilot training. There’a always demand for less fuel consumption, faster speeds and higher seat count. That’s not an excuse. I’m against pitchfork mobs and this documentary will probably be very sensationalised, but your comment is so far up Boeing’s ass they might as well be paying you.
      That’s like saying drug addicts “lobbied” Purdue Pharma to keep producing OxyContin, downplaying its risks in marketing materials and establishing perverse incentive schemes for doctors prescribing it for broken pinkies.

    • @busylivingnotdying
      @busylivingnotdying Před 2 lety +2

      @@Avengerie The airline industry apply pressure through purchasing policy. If it takes too long to manufacture, or the purchase price is too high, they go elsewhere.
      Also, I know of airlines right now who pressures their employees to PAY THEMSELVES for the upgrade of their licensing to fly new types of planes (by a complicated system of outsourcing employment policy). A cost that can run several hundred thousand dollars. if Boeing could provide a new plane that didn't require MAJOR education costs, that would help the airlines AND their pilots tremendously. I'm sure nobody thought of how that could endanger passengers and themselves in the long run ..
      But, Boeing and their "relationship" with FAA regulators and Congress is probably the worse offender BY FAR! In 2005 the use of outside control was discontinued with the blessing of Congress and the move to South Carolina (non-union/no-objections employees) didn't help either.

    • @Avengerie
      @Avengerie Před 2 lety +12

      @@busylivingnotdying I understand that. That’s how competition works. Boeing made it seem they are on par with or even better than Airbus (no need to retrain pilots), while cutting costs and performing a smoke and mirrors show every step of the way. To now claim they were somehow pressured by airlines is laughable. They chose to compete in this market segment in search of profits and presented a product that wasn’t up to standards.

    • @busylivingnotdying
      @busylivingnotdying Před 2 lety +5

      @@Avengerie Yeah, they sure did! .. I don't think anybody want their customers to fall out of the sky, but "competition" and financial concerns as well as "regulator overload", can make us all lose sight of "the ball".. Even us Europeans, by the way ..
      Ergo:
      NOBODY with financial ties to the industry should THEMSELVES determine safety requirements. I wouldn't feel safe 40 000 feet in the air if they did.

  • @numtot2172
    @numtot2172 Před 3 měsíci +9

    And here we are yet again

  • @leokimvideo
    @leokimvideo Před 2 lety +1974

    Downfall, this time without a WW2 dictator but something just as evil. This looks totally amazing.

    • @jarcdday
      @jarcdday Před 2 lety +20

      got that reference xD

    • @USS_Sentinel
      @USS_Sentinel Před 2 lety +49

      Yes, the pursuit of profits above all else. Including human life. That's what happens when you don't put a leash on capitalism.

    • @chowsu944
      @chowsu944 Před 2 lety +36

      Did you just put this on the same level as the holocaust?

    • @ukaszwalczak1154
      @ukaszwalczak1154 Před 2 lety +11

      @@chowsu944 No, he just said, that risking the lives of people, just for literal profit, PROFIT, is just, evil, and unredeemable.

    • @chowsu944
      @chowsu944 Před 2 lety +7

      @@ukaszwalczak1154 "this time without a WW2 dictator but something just as evil" Where???

  • @AussieGunzel
    @AussieGunzel Před 3 měsíci +8

    This honestly needs another series for the MAX 9 plug doors

  • @lucrezaborgia
    @lucrezaborgia Před 4 měsíci +18

    And yet again entire fleets have been grounded, this time over explosive decompression! This is not a company concerned about safety.

  • @adamjkp
    @adamjkp Před 3 měsíci +17

    We need a second season now.

    • @dltn42
      @dltn42 Před měsícem

      YES.. with the investigation of the Boeing Whistleblower assassination

  • @ARTPLAYSGAMES86
    @ARTPLAYSGAMES86 Před 2 lety +17

    When all the families held up the pictures at the hearing...... as a grown man, I felt a lot of emotions... I can't imagine having to live through that time and time again. RIP to everyone who lost family and friends.

  • @afghans0ldier
    @afghans0ldier Před 4 měsíci +18

    Yesterday on 06 JAN 2024 the same Boeing 737 Max was flying to another US State, when suddenly its door exploded and fell off the plane. And today all of the Max's were grounded in the same state. I guess the time has come for the MAX to retire before something worse happens.

    • @jfdragonfire
      @jfdragonfire Před 4 měsíci +3

      I knew it was Boeing but didn't realize it was a 737 Max. They're just wanting to dig their own grave, it seems.

  • @Calloflunacy
    @Calloflunacy Před rokem +23

    To the people who made this documentary, you have my sincerest thanks and deepest heartfelt gratitude. words can't even begin to describe how important something like this, and that it got made. After all my years at that company this kind of corruption of the culture at Boeing was only going to end one way, and it drove a lot of workers insane trying to find any way to stop it. That company lost a lot of it's most talented employees because of the evil that was seeping out of Chicago. Never should have happened, and I'm glad I left that place when I had the chance.

  • @neadew
    @neadew Před 4 měsíci +10

    Astonishing movie. After all this, 4 days ago another Boeing 737 MAX 9 lost a piece midair and only pure luck prevented another hundreds of human lives lost. Who is going to stop this insanity?

  • @11window12
    @11window12 Před 2 lety +172

    I flew on the Ethiopian 737 max before. When I heard one of them crashed I felt sick to my stomach. Boeing makes incredible planes, but this whole story about the 737 max is an absolute disgrace and Boeing should be punished severely for it.

    • @weirdshibainu
      @weirdshibainu Před 2 lety +1

      Let's do that. For a month, let's ground every plane made by Boeing. Enjoy your bus ride.

    • @Banininator
      @Banininator Před 2 lety +28

      @@weirdshibainu Thanks Airbus its here to rescue and mantain us safe.

    • @maazkalim
      @maazkalim Před 2 lety

      Bwahahahahah!
      Good hopeless delusion in the reality of duopoly, Mx "@@Banininator".

    • @MasonStrand
      @MasonStrand Před 2 lety +1

      Airbus has its own problems with crashes. It’s not a good look for the industry.

    • @siviter
      @siviter Před 2 lety +5

      @@MasonStrand such as?

  • @gurjasssingh9740
    @gurjasssingh9740 Před 2 lety +451

    I am happy that Netflix is standing with people not with corporates.

    • @akshayjoseph1314
      @akshayjoseph1314 Před 2 lety +32

      Bcoz, its the people who watch show

    • @hdaviator9181
      @hdaviator9181 Před 2 lety +5

      Why would they? What does Boeing have to do with Netflix?

    • @surendranaidu463
      @surendranaidu463 Před 2 lety +43

      are you kidding ? Netflix is biggest corporate in today's time

    • @sigma_curry
      @sigma_curry Před 2 lety +17

      netflix is a corp stupid, and im sure there is all sort of sketchy things happening within netflix

    • @jeremytournellec4122
      @jeremytournellec4122 Před 2 lety +2

      @@surendranaidu463 Boeing is still way bigger than netflix do not worry

  • @suibhneesan1689
    @suibhneesan1689 Před 3 měsíci +11

    POV: CZcams recommended this to you after the alaska airlines incident

  • @chanrun7331
    @chanrun7331 Před 2 lety +41

    Unacceptable to see Muilenberg (Boeing ex-CEO) got away with this without being punished by the justice. He had his millions of dollars compensation and just flew.

    • @bigjanyway2224
      @bigjanyway2224 Před 2 lety +2

      Yes Exactly. 25 to 40 million in severance depending on some details. Dickhead should have gotten 346 life sentences in prison.

    • @eightflorentines5542
      @eightflorentines5542 Před 2 lety +2

      Yup - he walked away with SIXTY MILLION DOLLARS in stock options and pension benefits. He should have gotten 60 years in jail. To make matters worse, he's back in aerospace. He's now the CEO for New Vista Acquisition Corporation. Unbelievable what rich, connected white men get away with.

    • @haoadams
      @haoadams Před 2 lety

      Meanwhile Veterans have to go to housing authorities due to companies pushing inforned people out. But the ceo always gets millions......

    • @haoadams
      @haoadams Před 2 lety

      @@bigjanyway2224 hedgefund

  • @teethaistralian6079
    @teethaistralian6079 Před 2 lety +19

    This had me in tears. the victims and their families of this scandal deserve so much more. Dennis Muilenburg got his golden handshake, Boeing escaped criminal prosecution by paying 2.5 Billion dollars. The families of the victims received peanuts in comparison. The undertones of racism towards the pilots and authorities of those airlines involved was disgraceful. I don't think I will ever fly Boeing again.

  • @robhohmann5711
    @robhohmann5711 Před 2 lety +88

    What a time to be alive, Netflix and social media bringing down the rich bullies that got away with evil stuff for years...

    • @nhlpa17
      @nhlpa17 Před 2 lety +4

      lol they didn't bring anyone down. Boeing was the only ones who brought people down with their sky trash aircraft.

    • @rm6700
      @rm6700 Před 2 lety +3

      @@nhlpa17 damn, this comment is raw, but yes, so true, and needs to be repeated again and again

    • @Cal90208
      @Cal90208 Před 2 lety +3

      @@nhlpa17 While Boeing truly messed up with the 737MAX, that doesn't change the fact that they have produced some of the safest aircraft in the skies. Apparently people don't know that.

    • @nhlpa17
      @nhlpa17 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Cal90208 lol funny. Yet all 3 of their last releases were grounded do to issues. Boeing = skytrash.

    • @Cal90208
      @Cal90208 Před 2 lety

      @@nhlpa17 777x is grounded, only some 787s were grounded and some of it wasn’t their fault

  • @marzoval9551
    @marzoval9551 Před 2 lety +96

    "Safety is at the core of who we are at Boeing"
    Why do I never feel any sense of sincerity whenever I hear companies say stuff like this? It always reeks of damage control and PR to protect profits than an actual genuine message.

    • @tma2001
      @tma2001 Před 2 lety +3

      safety of his bonus and share options is what he meant ...

    • @jb894
      @jb894 Před 2 lety

      You keep being a misinformed fool ill gladly keep flying Boeing!

    • @melaniesefa9271
      @melaniesefa9271 Před 2 lety

      @@jb894 ok..

    • @jb894
      @jb894 Před 2 lety

      @@davidsantoso2291 ahaha wrong!

    • @bigjanyway2224
      @bigjanyway2224 Před 2 lety

      if it's a boeing, I ain't a going

  • @NightcoreSkies
    @NightcoreSkies Před 3 měsíci +4

    Well. Now that Alaska Airlines' 737 door blew out and ANA's window cracked and SO many other issues, what a good time for YT to recommend me this video.

  • @khalilahd.
    @khalilahd. Před 2 lety +152

    Wow I love a good documentary. This looks really good I’m definitely watching 🙏🏽

  • @benjaminpachecothorogood1491

    I got the chills just to see the victims families standing up! Boeing betrayed those pilots who tried to save the plane and the life of the passengers

    • @001looker
      @001looker Před 2 lety +1

      They got no right, it's cost of doing business. If one is afraid to fly, don't fly. What Boing did is proper thing and all other companies should do it. Death of passengers is not that important.

    • @paulog.5788
      @paulog.5788 Před 2 lety +23

      @@001looker go seek psychological help you freak

    • @billionaireno1
      @billionaireno1 Před 2 lety +15

      @@001looker do you ever think before you speak? what if that was you on the flight? or a loved one?

    • @001looker
      @001looker Před 2 lety

      @@billionaireno1 they be dead as we all will be eventually

    • @hayitsj21
      @hayitsj21 Před 2 lety +18

      @@billionaireno1 Don't bother. Look at one of his upload. He likes a reaction out of people. He just didn't get enough love or happiness and lives a pathetic life.

  • @jackwestcott4469
    @jackwestcott4469 Před 2 lety +50

    Only thing worse than Boeing’s actions is the American exceptionalism that wants to blame “third world training” and “third world pilots”…those very pilots and airlines didn’t have any issues up until now and suddenly, two different airlines, two different crews have the same issue with the same plane…that may be more than just third world training.

    • @krownzilla
      @krownzilla Před 2 lety +9

      In an email exchange, Boeing called Lion Air stupid for requesting more pilot training beyond just slideshows on an iPad.

    • @karissagrace1508
      @karissagrace1508 Před 2 lety

      as an Indonesian, i was so mad when they said that our pilots lacked proper training because they come from a poor country. those pilots were trained mostly in US/Europe and they have never crashed an Airbus before.

    • @arushiarya2190
      @arushiarya2190 Před měsícem

      america always wants to blame everyone even when they're responsible

  • @matthewbaynham6286
    @matthewbaynham6286 Před 3 měsíci +8

    They will have to make a sequel about door plugs.

  • @ItzKueken
    @ItzKueken Před 2 lety +70

    I've already seen a German documentary about this topic. Some of it was shocking to me. Really looking forward to this.

  • @artbyajay5230
    @artbyajay5230 Před 2 lety +102

    Netflix and their documentaries are so addictive. Just finished the Tinder Swindler and damn interesting was it. ❤️

  • @tjr4459
    @tjr4459 Před 2 lety +8

    It’s amazing no one went to jail for these tragedies. So many lives lost and survivor lives destroyed.

  • @yohanessiregar
    @yohanessiregar Před 2 lety +202

    Deepest condolences to the families affected. Thanks Netflix to bring such a great documentary to public. Boeing must compensate the families who lost their loved ones in Lion Air and Ethiopian Airlines! They must apologize personally! Boeing's ex CEO, Muilenberg, must be put in the jail for his lack of leadership and conspiracy!

    • @Topper_Harley68
      @Topper_Harley68 Před 2 lety +9

      That will not happen, they got away with a 2.5 billion fine. And one of the mass murderer got paid over 60 million after he left..

    • @Birdgirl363
      @Birdgirl363 Před 2 lety +7

      Muilenburg was the fall guy. The real criminals are Jim McNerney and Ray Connor.

    • @j.o.5796
      @j.o.5796 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Topper_Harley68 And the FAA knew everything and yet didn't react. How can we trust the system?

    • @snafu98104
      @snafu98104 Před 2 lety

      yes this awful but paying aircraft mechanics less than $500.00 a month and all these aircraft go down in south asia or africa or ukraine. Yes these countries don't have the schools as in America . so isn't it common sense to train harder in less developed countries mh80 was lost in this theater of operation. What boeing should do is not sell these complicated jets to third world countries. I worked on boeing helicopters they are the best three flight control systems even power steering I was grilled for 6 months before i could even do safety wire on any nut but i was Army. Take these mechanics from Indonesia and africa and work on our military aircrafts no fuckin way . these governments are so corrupt and it flows downhill Once again netflix gets it wrong they should of asked or did research on the Maintenance logs i looked at enough of them I would ground all their aircraft for FOD in the flightline. don't blame the american companies that you beg for our technology. Do your maintenance and have the balls to say it's your fault. would you let a doctor from indonesia operate on you or doctors from africa do your kidney transplant . i want to blame boeing because of cooperate greed but i can't .I am not surprised how we have a stupid culture in america or just plain dumb thank God i joined the military and didn't go to college

  • @angus_m
    @angus_m Před 2 lety +52

    This needs to be talked about more, thank you netflix

  • @OdysseyTag
    @OdysseyTag Před 2 lety +532

    Still appalled that something like this happened. You just can't look at a company the same after such.

    • @johnnycash5858
      @johnnycash5858 Před 2 lety +9

      Google "Air France flight 447," and "Qatar Airbus order canceled." More an issue with the industry and the regulators that are supposed to keep it safe, frankly.

    • @adamcriticalthinking9423
      @adamcriticalthinking9423 Před 2 lety +1

      @@johnnycash5858 r u shocked I mean they bombed Yemen for years

    • @orlovsskibet
      @orlovsskibet Před 2 lety +16

      @@johnnycash5858 none of those are remotely similar to this. Qatar is just stirring the pot and tried to get som cash because they are broke. The paint issue (which Boeing also has on composites) is not in any way shape or form relevant to safety.
      AF 447 was pilot error - get your facts straight.

    • @emadaviation5764
      @emadaviation5764 Před 2 lety +7

      @@johnnycash5858 Air France flight 447 was completely pilot error and not the plane's fault. Also, Qatar is just trying to get money by the paint issue. This also happened on boeing's composites so stfu boeing fanboy.

    • @danewilliam2907
      @danewilliam2907 Před 2 lety +5

      @@orlovsskibet 447 was caused by pitot tubes freezing. An Airbus design flaw and a pilot who arguably shouldn't have been in a cockpit meant that a crash was inevitable.

  • @theavgeekomic8589
    @theavgeekomic8589 Před 3 měsíci +6

    season 2 coming our for the max 9??

  • @goldinaschiszler
    @goldinaschiszler Před 2 lety +5

    I just love it when these documentaries come up when I’m about to go onto a plane in a few weeks

  • @user-mt1sg3zg1b
    @user-mt1sg3zg1b Před 2 lety +124

    I was part of the engineer team in the 737. We did raised the exact concerns when the executives decided to overrule profit over safety. They wanted to rush the launch to compete with airbus. My heart goes out to the innocent families..

    • @tma2001
      @tma2001 Před 2 lety +2

      did you blow the whistle at the time ?

    • @Psgamer-vu2hp
      @Psgamer-vu2hp Před 2 lety +2

      Stop the cap

    • @randy1189
      @randy1189 Před 2 lety

      This all happened because Boeing wanted to make big and round engines like the a320neo and decided to add the engines almost above the wings when the max was designed to be lower on the ground in the first place.

    • @JackF99
      @JackF99 Před 2 lety +3

      So exactly what was your role? If you describe your involvement as being "part of the engineer team" I really doubt you were involved at all.

    • @theboontz58321
      @theboontz58321 Před 2 lety +4

      There's hundreds of thousands of people who work for Boeing. Y'all don't think we use CZcams? Lmao

  • @azizcammioneur7311
    @azizcammioneur7311 Před 2 lety +36

    Thank you @Netflix for this. You are never afraid to investigate big corporations. Thank you for giving the victims' families AND the pilots who were wrongfully accused a voice. You never stop.

  • @christophergaspar6520
    @christophergaspar6520 Před 2 lety +6

    this show is about to go trending in a minute

  • @MarlaLukofsky7
    @MarlaLukofsky7 Před 2 lety +3

    Anything Rory Kennedy touches turns into a brilliant, intelligent, emotional doc, in other words, a winner. An expose of the airlines business manufacturers and honoring those who died in their planes.

  • @ladyteetee82
    @ladyteetee82 Před 2 lety +14

    I saw the 20/20 investigation of this a few weeks ago so I am DEFINITELY interested in this documentary; especially seeing as how it's from Netflix

  • @vaishalithakkar2738
    @vaishalithakkar2738 Před 2 lety +132

    Love these documentaries. I hope they'll also go deeper into the technical detail of 737 aircrafts. Looking forward to watching it!

    • @BrianSWG
      @BrianSWG Před 2 lety +5

      It took 20 months of investigtion, $20B.....and it will be back in service with United and Southwest by Q2 of 2022 among other airlines

    • @maazkalim
      @maazkalim Před 2 lety +1

      What do you mean by: “Go deeper into the technical detail”?

    • @terence.pereira
      @terence.pereira Před 2 lety +4

      They probably won't. This seems like a documentary poised as a fight between the victims families and Boeing, not as a technical demonstration of what went wrong and why. Netflix documentaries seem great, because they create drama when drama is the last thing you need to be able to have an objective opinion based on all the facts.

    • @sirdo946
      @sirdo946 Před 2 lety +2

      @@terence.pereira Yeah this is the same feeling i got. I'll still watch it but i think the aviation part will be minimal

    • @7temper
      @7temper Před 2 lety +1

      @@terence.pereira I’m sure they’ll at least touch on the MCAS and how Boeing registered it as an extension of the 737 to eliminate the need for pilots to go through full training.

  • @riccisantiago
    @riccisantiago Před 2 lety +5

    As a regular flier before the pandemic...anything about airplane accidents like this really sends chills and my heart goes to the families.

    • @keithcarlton2054
      @keithcarlton2054 Před 2 lety +2

      I am an airline pilot, if you fly in the states you have nothing to worry about. The rules here vs. There are very different and we train over and over and over again to prevent accidents and keep you guys safe and happy in the back. Boeing did make a mistake on the original jet but good pilots can and did overcome that with nothing or note coming from it. Sadly the training and maintenance practices at lion especially was abysmal and illegal in many ways. All that to say we are highly trained professionals that take our jobs very seriously and every time I walk into the jet I am ready to use all of my skills to keep you and everyone else as safe as possible ✈

  • @_reverse-psycho_855
    @_reverse-psycho_855 Před 3 měsíci +8

    The youtube algorithm works in mysterious ways huh..

  • @kgal1298
    @kgal1298 Před 2 lety +29

    I remember those can't believe it was only 2018. Feels like a decade ago, but really interested to see what this documentary says.

  • @guadaluperincon7822
    @guadaluperincon7822 Před 2 lety +493

    Boeing should have faced bigger consequences for this. Looking forward to the documentary.

    • @brockgibson9083
      @brockgibson9083 Před 2 lety +20

      Prison time for gross negligence (a felony) was the only appropriate accountability that would stop Boeing Senior Executives from the malfeasance they have perpetrated and gotten away with for decades. The 737 MAX is not the first time their greed for $$$$$ millions in end of year bonuses has killed innocent people. Just the most obvious.
      And, the DOJ gave them all a pass as a result of Boeing’s powerful, abusive and inappropriate influences in the USGOV.
      Tragically, the danger their leadership culture presents still exists with David Calhoun as the CEO. Merely a crony of the old guard, a member of the BOD and Dennis Muilenburg fan club since 2009 who did nothing to stop the MAX killing machine.

    • @ross4
      @ross4 Před 2 lety +14

      Actual humans (Boeing executives) need jail time, which almost never happens when companies commit crimes. Sure, the CEO lost his job, but he can continue to be a millionaire and the company can pay a relatively small fine and just carry on.

    • @andrewgkorol
      @andrewgkorol Před 2 lety

      @@ross4 but jailed by a US court would be hurting the multi billion dollar exporter Boeing is, and the country wouldn't let that happen imo. Much like Boeing itself, the US court can't take that financial risk

    • @nunosilva6574
      @nunosilva6574 Před 2 lety +3

      @@andrewgkorol "Fīat jūstitia ruat cælum" ("Let justice be done though the heavens fall.")

    • @rt-uh6mt
      @rt-uh6mt Před 2 lety

      @@brockgibson9083 It was an extremely poor systems design. The idea this happened because of greed is nonsense. Put your pitchforks away bro.

  • @officialboomtish214
    @officialboomtish214 Před 3 měsíci +4

    “If it’s not Boeing, I’m not going” is something that’s more relevant of a phrase than ever lol

  • @NoEscapeGaming
    @NoEscapeGaming Před 2 měsíci +3

    Looking forward to the sequel on this

  • @vjayjob
    @vjayjob Před 2 lety +58

    Thanks for doing this Netflix. This cruel story of Boeing should have a wider reach.

  • @Zecos
    @Zecos Před 2 lety +154

    Man I’m someone who’s just fascinated by airplanes and the aviation/aerospace industry in general - I’ve watched practically all movies on the subject such as snakes on a plane, into the night, sully etc etc
    *Finally quality content for avgeeks* ✨🇵🇰⚡️

    • @aayushsoni4401
      @aayushsoni4401 Před 2 lety +1

      haha true im as excited as you

    • @JustinLHopkins
      @JustinLHopkins Před 2 lety +2

      I agree. Most aviation documentaries are overly dramatic and silly. I just want the facts.

    • @nurdinvsm953
      @nurdinvsm953 Před 2 lety +1

      Pretty much same here

    • @manswind3417
      @manswind3417 Před 2 lety +6

      Try out documentary series like Air Crash Investigation or Mayday; if you're an aviation buff you'll deffo enjoy them too.

    • @rodakjones7574
      @rodakjones7574 Před 2 lety +2

      Frontline did a doc on the same subject that is very good and on YT.

  • @avialoaferrblx6510
    @avialoaferrblx6510 Před 3 měsíci +5

    good time is suddenly shows on my recomendations

  • @Kari2025
    @Kari2025 Před 2 lety +4

    I just got done watching this, and I recommend it to anybody. I especially loved Sully being a part of it. My condolences to the families and friends of the lives lost on these flights.

  • @2WheelWeekendViking
    @2WheelWeekendViking Před 2 lety +164

    This trailer actually gave me goosebumps. Another greedy corporation puts aside the value of human life just to make money. I hope the families get some form of justice by the end of this documentary because if they don’t I might throw the nearest heavy object at my television.

    • @BrianSWG
      @BrianSWG Před 2 lety +1

      If its money then yes, there was a settlement.

    • @moeburn
      @moeburn Před 2 lety +3

      The good corporation is always undercut by the bad. The ones that aren't greedy go out of business.

    • @nerd2814
      @nerd2814 Před 2 lety +4

      The thing is this won't change with a CEO change. This is a whole corporate culture at Boeing, and it'll take years or even a decade to change that, if it ever happens.

    • @averageuser2027
      @averageuser2027 Před 2 lety +2

      @@moeburn That's reality. If you let your competitors move ahead of you for too long, you are gonna be history.

  • @ehsaasdudhwala
    @ehsaasdudhwala Před 2 lety +3

    Dear Netflix, please keep bringing such documentaries!

  • @Magerquark
    @Magerquark Před 2 lety +10

    During these crashes I worked at an german airport and kept looking around for these 737 max thinking to myself "damn they are still flying, I would never enter one of those"

  • @praneeth_wtby
    @praneeth_wtby Před 3 měsíci +4

    The timing for this recommendation to come on my feed 💀

  • @erivaldo1784
    @erivaldo1784 Před 2 lety +6

    I waited for this documentary for so many years. Justice for the family vitims and vitims 🙌🏽🙌🏽

  • @emilyluken9704
    @emilyluken9704 Před 2 lety +498

    There is a good 20/20 episode on this as well. The pilots fought HARD to save those planes (I believe one nose dived over 40 times). Boeing knew it was a flaw in the navigation system but still blamed the pilots and gambled with human lives.

    • @maazkalim
      @maazkalim Před 2 lety +2

      “20/20” the cricketing-format???

    • @jenkins5265
      @jenkins5265 Před 2 lety +71

      CEO walked away with millions after getting fired. Makes your blood boil.

    • @JustinLHopkins
      @JustinLHopkins Před 2 lety +12

      @@jenkins5265 If you don’t make your numbers at work do you get a bonus? Neither do I. We get fired with no compensation.

    • @jenkins5265
      @jenkins5265 Před 2 lety +35

      @@JustinLHopkins if I were responsible for making decisions that were negligent and led to peoples deaths, I don’t think I would be thick skinned enough to take the money. But that’s prob why I don’t have what it takes to be CEO.

    • @motley331
      @motley331 Před 2 lety +1

      Not a flaw in the navigation system. The plane was not aerofynamic due to the larger engines mounted to the wing mounts. It wanted to automatically stall. My understanding.

  • @Wherecharliegoes
    @Wherecharliegoes Před 2 lety +8

    This is such a good documentary and well worth a watch! It shows just how a once admired aviation institution, world renowned for its quality and safety, can be destroyed by corporate greed and putting profits before safety! For those people commenting and trashing the pilots, they clearly haven’t watched this 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @melaniesefa9271
      @melaniesefa9271 Před 2 lety

      right

    • @hamdiosman5717
      @hamdiosman5717 Před 2 lety

      What will they gain from loss of lives?wouldn't that just tarnish their name?pardon my gullibility

  • @albertmiles9509
    @albertmiles9509 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks, Netflix for showing this. You , Imagine Entertainment and Rory Kennedy were brave to release this gripping documentary. Boeing amazed me as kid with the 747 and how you could exit a 727 through the rear. Sadly, it's not the Boeing of today.

  • @Name14days
    @Name14days Před 2 lety +21

    We need more aviation content like this!!!

  • @jmlkinc
    @jmlkinc Před 2 lety +66

    Boeing's response sealed their fate. No redesign, no admission of fault. Just victim blaming all the way down.

    • @stellita884
      @stellita884 Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah and those planes are back up in the sky. It’s like the biggest WTF

    • @alexp41028
      @alexp41028 Před 2 lety +3

      @@stellita884 they have modified the plane heaps though, and placed a heap of control back on the pilots as it should have been from the start.

    • @jg5001
      @jg5001 Před 2 lety +4

      The MAX redesign threw off the original center of gravity. The MCAS was supposed to help trim the aircraft for stability, but obviously with Boeing, money and beating Airbus to the punch, is more important than lives.

  • @reapertalon
    @reapertalon Před 2 lety +4

    A good friend of mine worked on boeings for years. He went from loving boeings to being mistrustful of boeings and doing extra checks after the crashes

    • @Tazz-Media
      @Tazz-Media Před rokem

      I can recommend a good book for you/your friend. It's called Airframe by Michael Crichton.......great book & insightful re aviation & safety. P.s an uncanny coincidence into the 737 phenomena in that book...Hmmm.

  • @simofran6456
    @simofran6456 Před 2 lety +2

    Finally a detailed aviation documentary on the MAX series

  • @davidmunyua238
    @davidmunyua238 Před 2 lety +10

    "They would have been fighting for their lives in the fight of their life" we ain't ready for this!!!

  • @wancoet
    @wancoet Před 2 lety +86

    When the victims are Indonesian, they blame the pilot. But when the victims are Americans they start to investigate. Human lives are not equal in the US.

    • @eightflorentines5542
      @eightflorentines5542 Před 2 lety +6

      You are 100% correct. Lives are absolutely NOT equal in America and not just in this situation either.

    • @keithcarlton2054
      @keithcarlton2054 Před 2 lety +2

      That's not true. I am a pilot, we investigate every accident in order to learn everything we can. After investigating, these 737 crashes were clearly pilot error. Evidence of this is, even in America over 80% of aircraft accidents are deemed to be pilot error. Pilot error includes things like this where there was a system failure but normal pilot skills and manuvers would have resulted in a safe landing. That is exactly what happened here.

    • @wancoet
      @wancoet Před 2 lety +1

      @@keithcarlton2054 it was explained in the movie that in the simulation no pilot will survive if they were not informed about the mcas. Yet eventhough the Ethiopian had been informed about the mcas they were unable to deactivated it. So are you still think this is the pilot fault?

    • @keithcarlton2054
      @keithcarlton2054 Před 2 lety

      @@wancoet yes I do still believe pilot fault because the movie is factually incorrect. Case and point, the flight prior to the lion air crash experienced the same fault yet nothing happened because the jumpseater (jumpseat is an additional seat in the cockpit for other pilots to ride on but aren't part of the flying crew) saw the problem and helped them take the proper steps to fix it. I understand you may not be a pilot but the short version is when MCAS fails it presents exactly like another system failure, trim. Trim failures are major training focuses in all aircraft that are equipped with automatic trim (the vast majority). Therefore this specific training was not required and the pilots should have acted normally. Because they did not act according to the procedure, again trim procedure not mcas procedure (although they are the same), their actions put that plane in the ocean. In Ethiopian the first officer noticed the fault, called it out, and took proper steps to fix it. However the captain then later demanded the FO re-engage the faulty system. This is a huge no-no for us, we never ever re-engage a system that is known to be faulty. This, accompanied by other critical mistakes drove the plane into the ground.

    • @yuhhhhhhhhhhh1
      @yuhhhhhhhhhhh1 Před 2 lety

      @@wancoet listen to the pilot moron

  • @lukethomas.125
    @lukethomas.125 Před 2 měsíci +2

    The situation when the Lion Air Max crashes, after being grounded for a little bit, they resumed flying, then came the Ethiopean Max, the situation is not the first time something like this has happened. Years ago, in the 1950s, the De Havilland Comet suffered a similar fragile start to its flying career

  • @sunnylefabulous6736
    @sunnylefabulous6736 Před 2 lety +1

    Everyone should watch this! A really good documentary, we need more awareness about this

  • @omarabdullahid
    @omarabdullahid Před 2 lety +5

    The one in Indonesia, that scary af man. The altitude and speed go crazy out of control, and the pilot doesn't have control and realize until they nose down to the sea with maximum speed. The biggest part from the plane that was found on the sea was only a square meter and no fully human body was found due to high-speed impact. My biggest condolence to all family members of the passenger.

    • @hkic1775
      @hkic1775 Před 2 lety

      There's some of human body, because my friend was a forensic doctor who helped to identify the victim and the condition was so terrible.
      I heard that family of the victim sue Boeing but idk if they're win on court or not.

  • @ItsMauiBruh
    @ItsMauiBruh Před 2 lety +61

    I had a guest lecture in one of my mechanical engineering courses from the aerospace expert witness who worked with the Chicago law firm which sued Boeing. Incredible story of risk mitigation in engineering.

    • @Josh-zu7th
      @Josh-zu7th Před 2 lety

      I don't have the time to watch the doc, could u just summarize what was the issue and what's the documentary About?

    • @thuraya53
      @thuraya53 Před 2 lety

      When you have bean counters instead of true engineers in charge this what you get. If your company requires great engineering then there should be someone well versed in engineering in charge. hey a thought. A engineer as the top of the food chain. I.E Elon Musk. You can't walk up to him and tell him anything. He knows. Physics and engineering background . Not just a " does this make us and the shareholders a profit suits"
      God bless those families .

  • @lu4414
    @lu4414 Před 2 lety +8

    The part of "who brings lobbyists to a safety meeting?" hit hard on me

  • @skytrotter6144
    @skytrotter6144 Před 2 lety +7

    Very interesting but Sully’s remark stunned me when he said “we shouldn’t expect pilots to compensate for designed flaws” while after the second crash he actually blamed it on poor training to later on changing his opinion after he tried to recover the situation in a simulator. Rather interesting remark from someone that actually told investigators and the commission at his hearing post Hudson that they did not consider the human factors and are only looking for someone to be blamed which in fact he did too after the second crash he blamed the pilots before knowing all facts !

  • @razinrosdi5675
    @razinrosdi5675 Před 2 lety +106

    Love that producers can produced quality documentaries with Netflix's willing to aired it...and in turn they will undertake more quality programmes in the future.

    • @bobthebuilder101ism
      @bobthebuilder101ism Před 2 lety +1

      What quality ? The the pilots were not trained “compensate for bad airplanes?” You need a pilot first off Ethiopian airline does not have those

    • @ziqrifauzi8965
      @ziqrifauzi8965 Před 2 lety +1

      @@bobthebuilder101ism what?

  • @BobbyMulqueen
    @BobbyMulqueen Před 2 lety +83

    Really interested to watch this. I love aviation and the competition between Airbus's release of the A320-NEO and the Boeings 737-MAX was something I was interested in seeing develope, but with the fate of Lion Air and Ethiopian Airline's flights, it was really disheatening. So many lives lost on poor decision making with finacial gain likely being one of the leading contributing factors.

  • @mr.pokayoka5449
    @mr.pokayoka5449 Před 2 lety +1

    Very interesting Netflix! thank you for shining light on this.

  • @pnutbtur17
    @pnutbtur17 Před 4 měsíci

    Amazing amazing documentary. Beautifully organized.

  • @Eponina91
    @Eponina91 Před 2 lety +29

    Congratulations, Netflix, you are great at documentaries! This year I've already watched Athlete A, Broken, The Tinder Swindler and Found, and my list of this genre keeps expanding. I've always been a fan of non-fiction movies and books, but you can popularize documentaries across the world by serving us the delightful quality and large variety of issues researched.

    • @novadyaomah3168
      @novadyaomah3168 Před 2 lety +2

      Try House Of Secrets

    • @lotuslife8359
      @lotuslife8359 Před 2 lety

      I’m going to have to check out Found and also Broken but the others were amazing. There is another one out called The Puppet Master 🧐 📺

    • @lotuslife8359
      @lotuslife8359 Před 2 lety

      @@novadyaomah3168 missed this one 🤦🏾‍♀️ I may not go outside until mid Spring the way they keep dropping these docs 😂

    • @FamilyWinn
      @FamilyWinn Před 2 lety

      Dig Deeper another

  • @TravelersParadise
    @TravelersParadise Před 2 lety +7

    This is what happens when greed is the driving force of a company

  • @sarahmadni9365
    @sarahmadni9365 Před rokem +1

    deepest condolences for the affected families !

  • @eleventeen_
    @eleventeen_ Před 3 měsíci +3

    “When one door closes, another one opens”
    -737 MAX 9

  • @lvvett1
    @lvvett1 Před 4 měsíci +6

    737 max = maximum problems, 1st crash 2nd crash 3rd a door flew off 💀💀💀

  • @corneilusdonaldson1858
    @corneilusdonaldson1858 Před 2 lety +11

    PBS Frontline did an awesome job documentary on this subject too! It's free on CZcams

  • @nicoth.412
    @nicoth.412 Před 2 lety

    Really looking forward to this documentary!

  • @jonathaneffemey4892
    @jonathaneffemey4892 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for posting.