stevens 301 turkey stock choke 40 yard pattern test - TURKEY PATTERN SERIES PART 26!!!
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- HERE IS PART 26 IN THE TURKEY PATTERN SERIES!!
WE WILL BE DOING ALL THE POPULAR TURKEY LOADS & COMPARING HOW THEY PATTERN AT 30 & 50 YARD (MAY VARY DEPENDING ON THE TEST!!)
ALL HEAD TO HEAD BATTLES WILL BE AT 40 YARDS!!
HERE IS MY STOCK STEVENS 301 TURKEY CHOKE PATTERN TEST @ 20 & 40 YARDS!!
NOW AFTER TESTING THIS CHOKE PERFORMED WELL WITH BOTH LOADS ALTHOUGH APEX PERFORMED SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER THAN THE FEDERAL TSS
BOTH LOADS WERE TIGHT AT 20 YARDS AS EXPECTED BUT ONCE WE STEPPED BACK TO 40 YARDS THAT IS WHERE YOU TRULY SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE STOCK CHOKES & A PATTERNMASTER CODE BLACK TURKEY!!
THIS STOCK CHOKE WITH THE APEX TURKEY NINJA WOULD BE MORE THAN CAPABLE OF GETTING THE JOB DONE BUT WITH A CODE BLACK TURKEY THE PERFORMANCE WILL DRASTICALLY IMPROVE!!
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Just want to drop a line on the Stevens 301 Turkey .410, factory choke and shooting the TSS #9. May 6th 2023 my daughter took her first ever turkey! Shot at 47 yards! It was a big bird! 24lbs, 10 1/4" beard and 1 1/8" spurs. Fantastic and deadly combo for the price Thanks for the info on the Stevens 301 and the reviews for the ammo. You helped make a 10 year olds year and a first turkey that she will never forget!
Man that is what it is all about! That’s why we do it man this just made my day!
These turkey pattern videos have been great. My turkey tour has been delayed but I am optimistic that some of my season
will be salvaged. God bless America and her people.
Thanks man we put in a lot of work with it!
Right there with ya hoss my Nebraska & Kentucky trips are shut down and looking like PA may be next so might just be in our home state this season!
So glad you have so many vids on the 301.
You betcha!
Just picked up my 301 today and man im impressed with the ninja loads. My next move is ordering a code black. Ill bet it would be a solid 40 yard gun!!! Thanks for all you guys do. Your testing takes a lot of guessing out of what to try.
Yessir ! That’s why we do it!
I love this channel. This Saturday is our youth season and I have a couple young fellas that are ready to go..
Thanks for the support hoss! Means more than we can put into words!!
Good luck man that’s what it’s all about right there, Get after em brother! Make sure if they hand out some dirt naps you tag us in your social media & we will repost on ours!!
love seeing our subscribers getting it done!!
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA I sure will. Are you guys on FB?
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@@BigPard1974 good luck to those youngsters and yourself this season!! Knock their lights out! Love from NH.
My 301 will be here next Wednesday. I plan on making my own flight control wads on my lathe using a all brass hull. Hopefully I will have some videos up here soon testing different styles of wads using both lead magnum and TSS loads. Thanks for the videos, being a 410 collector I have to have the Stevens lol.
I like your style!
Yesterday I order my stevens 301 should be in about a week. Didn`t relies how expensive these shells are till now not something to go out and target shoot with but still going to have fun flattening a Tom with it. Enjoyed it Subbed to see the other chokes performance.
Tss is but it’s worth every penny but it’s not needed to kill turkeys
Sweet man...gonna scoop one up for my son! Only problem California is a pain to get any type of ammo not within my local stores. Nobody does ammo transfers!
I can imagine! He will love this though!
Taking my son out here in a few weeks. He drew a wildlife refugee tag in New Mexico. Have the 301 and could only find TSS. Glad they work well with the gun.
They hammer!
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA nice! I could only find 8s though. Any experience with them? His gun shoots well with lead. But for this hunt has to be non toxic. We can still use lead elsewhere in the state.
8’s tss hammer
Here’s one vid we have many on the series
czcams.com/video/ET5MZbLIpkY/video.html
I shoot my 301 20ga with Apex 9’s and stock EF choke and would feel confident to shoot a goobler at 50 yards. Much easier to shoot and more deadly than my old 12ga. Keep the vids coming.
I agree! Them stock chokes in them HAMMER
Jake, exact same results that I experienced with the Federals vs. Apex through the stock choke. Only difference that I had was slight elevational compensation @ 43 yds to where you had to hold on the head vs. Waddle. Still thinking about the patternmaster as a possibility down the road as I agree tighter in your prior test but for those with only stock tube you can still get it done with confidence out to these distances. Great all around and always fantastic informational sessions. Looking forward to more down the road.
Thanks for the constant support hoss we try hard to put out thes best content every vid!!
I figured others must have experienced the same! Least that means the stock choke is consistent it actually did impress me!
Nice job!
Thank you!
Got a turkey this year with Federal TSS 9 , Carlson TSS X full , 301 Steven’s , 28-30 yards.
Hell ya man!
I've got the Indian Creek .385 in my 301 410ga. Haven't shot it yet, hopefully it shoots good.
I have the patternmaster Code Black Turkey in mine the patterns are insane that it throws! Have you seen any of the other 410 vids on the channel!?
I'm debating Jebs or Indian Creek..I haven't seen ant video comparisons
@robrams59 we have many on the channels!
Hiu guys have great bideos and reviews i was wondering have u tried the fiocchi golden turkey loads yet?? I have not seen alot on these loads so far during my search
It’s coming don’t worry same with Remington tss 🕺🏼
Do a video on the savage stevens 301 20 gauge with different loads and choke
I don’t have a Stevens in 20 gauge
Side by side test with factory choke, please! 🦃
We can make that happen!
Very good thanks
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Brother sight in that little scope next time and you’ll rock your test! If I could find a .410 with a 22” barrel with a pattern master choke. Get pattern master to make the choke and call it the reaper! A short light .410 would be the Ultimate reaping shotgun. You know I love single shot guns!!!
I have it sighted in for a patternmaster code black turkey & the load I’m going to be hunting with, the stock choke shot high & right
I’m gonna try reaping with mine!
I reload tss and that's not a fair test because the 9.5s have a lot more pellets in them trust me I know I reload tss alot
I’m not sure your correct about the #9 shot in pa I have the same gun with TSS ammo in #9 checked game laws and it doesn’t say anything about how small just says no larger than #4 lead #2 steel or #4 of any other nontoxic shot so to me #9 shot would be legal??
I wasn’t correct and I have addressed that in many videos my apologies
Are you swabbing the barrel between each shot? this question goes for all your head to head comparisons.
Thanks
Just seen this comment! We check the barrel and if it’s fouled up we do
Only test that we have seen ammo leave big clumps of residue was in the boss load test
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA Appreciate the response....I tried the boss shells but didn't care for the pattern, its too bad too because they have some amazing waterfowl loads.
We have been patterning the boss loads for waterfowl but haven’t been getting good patterns out of any of our setups, we will find a good setup though I’m determined
Do you have any videos with the pattern master code black turkey .381 constriction?
I have .383 for all 3 of the ones we have … that was all I knew they made til just recently
Have you tried to swab your barrel
Between every shot? If not it might help tighten your patterns. My 301T shot much better with a clean barrel with Apex.
Most of the loads we’ve put through our .410’s have been clean enough to not need to clean the barrel every time except the BOSS tom 410 load, that shot great but it left clumps of residue and greatly affected the Apex’s pattern in another test, ive patterned the Apex loads before and they shot amazing
Found it 😁😁🦃🦃🦃🦃🦃
Buddy and I just patterned our 301 .410s with the patternmaster at 40. Neither produced good patterns. Cant find Apex in stock but Fed, Boss, and Remington all looked pretty bad.
Ya I prefer the anaconda striker in my 301 hawk shoots rogue or viper in his 301 CBT and it’s filthy
What’s the best choke and shell combo you have found for the 301
Depends on what you find to be the “best” pattern wise honestly
We all view the same pattern differently
We spend more on optics and chokes than the stevens. Federal not looking to shabby with the stock choke. Apex is still superior.
I'm waiting for this to come in stock. The 301 410. Can't locate one anywere
They’re hard to find but worth it!
What sight/red dot is that you have mounted on that gun? I just picked one up and look forward to getting in the woods with it!
I roll with the Holosun 407c it’s one badass reflex sight! I love all my holosuns won’t buy anything else, check out all our pattern tests with this bad boy we have a ton on the channel!
Apex looks patchy and of course its going to have a denser pattern, if the pellets are smaller and thats if the loads are the same weight. If the apex is a heavier load, they're absolutely going to put a bunch more on target.
Agreed, the point was to test the stock choke at both ranges with two loads not really comparing the loads themselves
I also shot right on the apex at 40 pushing the core pattern, we will be doing more stock choke pattern tests shortly
I can't afford a holson what would you recommend , rather have pyramid than red dot
Well just depends what you’re looking for
When you add a red dot, does it line up with the front bead?
Horizontally it’s very close, just depends on how you shoulder to aim with the red dot, but most of the time it should of course vertically it don’t
some red dots add a decent amount of height and plus the height of the rail. I'm guessing a cheek riser is going to be needed
Iv got same gun I like tighten it up at 40 yards what’s a good choke
Watch the tests and see what you like best
All the stevens 301 turkey tests in 410 have its own playlist with all tests as every gun does we pattern test to make it as easy as possible for our subscribers to check out the tests they want to see
Do you think savage will redesign the 301 for next year
Whatdya mean
Any thoughts on Nitro ammo out of Missouri with the invector choke in that Steven’s 301??
Can’t get ahold of them to pattern their loads
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA wow. Yeah it was tough for me also. Bought a box and the choke. Been a customer of theirs for yrs. Just wanted your thoughts. You do a lot of the guess work for a lot of hunters. Lol. Thx
Yes we do ahahah
Is the stock choke on the 301 410 a full choke? And does it matter how the stock choke is aligned or just screw in on.
Screw it on til it’s snug and it’s the turkey choke
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA Can you shoot a slug through it?
No as it’s a turkey choke
Wonder what constriction is on the stock choke
From what I hear they vary, mine measured .383
Can I shoot slug with that choke or do you recommend to remove it?
I don’t think you can shoot slugs with the stock choke, but they do make improved cylinder chokes for slugs with this gun
Have any used pattern master chokes you wanna part ways with
No sir I don’t plan on selling any of mine
Wish yall would test a indian creek 410 choke with the apex please
I can talk to moose about that, I only shoot patternmaster being I’m on their staffer team
I’m sure we can figure something out!
Blue Collar Outdoors USA hey man I appreciate it! I am trying to decide what choke i want for my tristar 410 and yall are the only people i know of doing thorough reviews on 410 loads and chokes. Keep them coming!
Levi Hunsinger honestly I haven’t seen another channel willing to spend the money to have a extensive series we will be doing this for goose & duck loads as well as broadheads starting after turkey season!
Blue Collar Outdoors USA good deal yalls channel bout has me sold on the code black turkey though lol
It’s hard to beat it! Tight patterns plus the biggest factor is that shortened shot string to bring that hard hitting impact!!
DOES THIS USE WINCHOKES OR BENNELLI MOBIL CHOKES OR BROWNING INVECTOR CHOKES
It should be listed as the Stevens/savage thread
Tss has less pellets inside the shell so less hits
Would you use that shotgun for quail or dove ?
You could I turkey hunt with it
Does anyone know where can I get chokes for this gun, or who makes them? I ordered one recently (Browning), but it was not the right fit.
Every choke brand makes them currently they’re under the stevens 301 turkey for most manufacturers
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA Thank you for a quick reply. My gun came with a turkey choke, but I want to put a modified choke for squirrels to get a bigger spread. My 11 years old can't handle 20 gauge. I can't find anything less than a turkey choke. If you know any, could you please paste a link here.
That I don’t know I’ve only bought turkey chokes but just google search it and I’m sure you’ll find it
Have you shot a load that was not apex or tss that shoots as good
You won’t find a lead load that can perform like a tungsten load not at the longer ranges at least we will be shooting lead .410’s to pattern
The price of TSS loads makes it a bit costly, especially if you're a bad shot. I shoot lead for practice/sight in. At 10 bucks per round as well as limited availability you still have to buy at least 2 boxes of 5 to get started.
Ooo I’m fully aware of the costs we shoot a lot of everything the turkey pattern series hurts the bank account real nice but man do we love filming em 🎥🇺🇸
Patterns are great but will a .410 get enough penetration at 40 yards?
Watch our 40 yard penetration tests
czcams.com/video/9yk-NvT3VIE/video.html
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA wow that’s wicked dude. I still think a 20 gauge is the sweet spot for turkeys now but shotgun technology has come a long way! Really awesome to see you respond on a video over a year old too.
I respond to every comment brother! And check out all our tss ballistic testing we have tons of it! More coming!
Iv been seeing guys saying u have to clean the barrel every shot to get these great of patterns. Is this true
We do clean our guns after every test to provide the most accurate patterns a load can provide
I highly recommend cleaning your barrel but with that said some guns shoot better with a dirty barrel I have found, just have to try both and test your setup to truly know what will be beat for you!
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA thanks. Would u recommend 1 shot or after say 10 shots then clean
Gents, I ran about 25 shots through mine with no cleaning and there was no evident expansion of pattern or inconsistency of shot placement. Note I'm not advocating for no gun cleaning just stating there was no need for cleaning shot after shot.
Jeremy Burger it’s all on the ammo you shoot, with boss we would recommend cleaning after every shot I get the highest performance but eith apex and most loads just clean when you see residue build up
river junkies bowfishing just depends on the ammo you run
Just check your barrel and clean when you see residue buildup!
May be a stupid question but im new to all this but can i shoot my 301 without the choke tube in it
Don’t do that I mean ever you’ll wreck the threads
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA I figured that's what my dad said
@traviswarren394 yessir please don’t do that lol
Lol appreciate it
Is the stock choke only for tungsten or can I shoot lead and steel to?
It can shoot lead unsure about steel
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA thanks
Yessir should say right now the choke
Does anyone know can you use tss for waterfowl being it's not lead?
Yessir it’s no toxic shot
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA fantastic, expensive, but looks to be worth it
We don’t use tss for waterfowl that’s out of our price range lol
No doubt, I won't either, I was just curious. Bismuth is alot cheaper. I'll rely on Magnum BB steel. Good enough for me
We’re not sold on the whole bismuth craze really hard to get it to pattern decent we shoot steel it’s never let us down
We will be doing a bismuth vs steel ballistic gel test shortly
What is the best choke and shell for that gun?
Look at all our pattern tests with it and see what you like best
What did you end up going with?
It’s not about what I went with it’s about what you like my guy
What I like and what you like could be completely different
How much money are you getting in kickbacks for those apex shells 😂
I wish we got something
Could you shoot slugs through it and make it a youth deer gun
Just would need to get the choke that allows it here in NY 410’s are illegal to hunt whitetail with
Glad I saw this. I want to shoot slugs with it as a target gun.
I don't hunt much, but it looks like an awesome little gun for an awesome little price.
100%!
Need to check the Kentucky law again doesn't say anything about not using 9shot only says no larger than 4shot
You can shoot it in KY my guy 🤙🏽
We can’t here in NY we have to shoot 8’s or bigger
Stock choke - I don't agree that the Apex is a better pattern, especially @ 20 yards. The Federal patten is nicely spread out & even. The Apex pattern may be tighter, but the shot is more clumped together in spots. I would take the more even spread out pattern over a tight pattern where the shot seems more clumped together in certain spots. Others may look at this differently, but I don't see the Apex as being superior by this example.
M B that’s the beauty of pattern tests it invokes conversation since everyone’s desired pattern differs!
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA It's amazing what a .410 is doing with both loads regardless. It's very nice of you to test & share the results. Since these loads are quite expensive, I think some hunters are hesitant to pattern them like cheaper loads. I've been a bit guilty of helping some new hunters get set up with tight chokes and great turkey loads. In their excitement they miss close birds that sneak up on them. Even with fiber optics sights or scope, they really need to aim. I prefer a nice even pattern over a super tight pattern that clumps up the shot. The bottom line: hunters need to do what you are sharing with their own guns. Clips like your clips help save them some time/money to get where they want to be with their loads.
M B yessir that’s the whole gameplan of this series!
And I appreciate being able to have an honest conversation with you regarding your preference on patterns that’s what it’s all about! We’re all on the same team we just have different methods!
M B yes this series has been hard on the wallet 100% we pay full price for every load we’ve put on it but it’s worth it for us when we hear how many have learned from the series!
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What,
Sorry but I can't see giving 50.00 a box for ammo
Don’t have to apologize to me it don’t matter to me what you shoot, you could get it done with lead just would have to be at a much closer range which is how I prefer it anyways
Shooting is an expensive hobby. You have to be a one shot, one kill kind of guy to afford to shoot these. Can you imagine what it would cost to shoot TSS in an autoloader?!
For turkeys I can see the value in tss for waterfowl I would never stomach that cost plus could you imagine digging through the breasts every duck/goose to find all them pellets that’s a no thanks from me
Just got this gun. No turkey loads in stock. Just have to wait to pattern it. Big sad
What loads you looking for?
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA anything turkey load wise.
Doesn’t matter to me
I’ll see what I can do!
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA awesome man let me know!
Maybe cvlife reflex
Nice!
Not bad at all
Joshua Eck it would get the job done for sure just a patternmaster would do the job better lol
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA yes it does
Send those steven model 301 410 in India
What lol
This is my next shotgun
Just picked mine up today! I’m watching videos to try and help me pick my ammo as I plan on using the stock choke
We will be dropping more stock choke tests this spring before season! Just waiting on the temps to rise so it will be an accurate pattern test
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA my man
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Don't Turkey hunt and hate the taste of it now,but I'd love to have one of these guns and put me a scope on it and make it a slug gun to deer hunt with if that's possible now!?
I’m not sure this would be the best bet for that application and actually in NY it is illegal to hunt with a .410 for Whitetail since you can fire a 45 out of one as well
@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA I live here in Virginia on my farm down next to the Kentucky line,and I have plenty of deer and turkeys but god help me I hate Turkey meat,I even let my neighbors and friends go Turkey hunting here all the time when it's open.only thing is leave the deer along and rabbits squirrels now.but that gun would make a great light slog gun with a scope on it if it wasn't checked off so much!!!!!
I hear ya, I’m sure you could find a choke setup to fit it for that application
If you're looking to handicap yourself why put a scope on a 410? Reliability penetrating a deer with a 410 over 60 yards away is iffy anyway. I'd rather shoot a muzzleloader with open sights if I want a challenge, or even a revolver.
@@craig5649 well see I only have 1 eye that works for me now,i lost my right eye when i was in my beloved marine corps and now i can see out of my right eye but I see two instead of one with it open.so I ware a patch on my right eye,and now I have to shoot my rifles left handed but i can use my pistols un my right hand but I have to sight down on them with my left eye.and my good right eye has a cataract on it right now and I'm scared to death to have it took off next mouth.because if the doctor screws up then I'll be blind.i use red dot sights on all my hunting pistols and scopes on all my hunting rifles.so see I'd love to have me a gun like that just to hunt with.and yes I do have hawnen rifles made by t/c in 45,50 and 54 calibers and 2 Kentucky long rifles with open sights 1 in 45 calber and 1 in 50 calber.all bought before I lost my right eye now see.but my kids and grand kids will some day enjoy them someday I hope!!!!!
Ether one you have a dead bird at 40 yards.
Yessir!
Lol 😂 dude every video where you shoot this Stevens 301 the red dot ISNT sighted in. WTF.
Do you listen to what I say? That’s why
You have to zero with what you hunt with you change a choke or load of both you have to zero
We don’t zero to every setup every test I cants afford to I already have over 30k in costs in the turkey pattern series as is
You hunt kenrucky
We do for turkey
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