Mitsubishi Shogun no brakes! HBB fault, ABS and brake light on. Fault finding and repair.
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This Mitsubishi Shogun came to me with pretty much no brakes!
The ABS and brakes warning lights constantly on, accompanied by this really annoying continuously beeping...
This revealed in the end, to be the common issue that most of the Mitsubishi equipped with the HBB brake system, ultimately suffer from...
Follow me on this video to find out what was the problem and how to resolve it.
Hope you enjoy the video.
Any questions or comments put them below.
Like always, thank you for watching!
A link to the eBay seller please! Thanks for the video!
rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fitm%2FEngine-Electric-ABS-PAJERO-MR407202-MR569728-FAREWELL%2F382359719523%3FssPageName%3DSTRK%253AMEBIDX%253AIT%26_trksid%3Dp2060353.m1438.l2649&campid=5338344466&toolid=20008
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You can get the motor reconditioned cheaper than buying the parts email-- windingmotors@gmail.com
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153953046927
It works well?
I have a weird case. 2002 Mit's Montero Ltd. The cover begins to vibrate and make a squeeky kind of noise for maybe 10-15 seconds and it does it more frequently as time has gone on. This has been going on for years and my ABS warning light use to be on, but I don't think it is anymore. My brakes are good and after I was given a price of $2,500, but my braking is ok, so I've ignored it. Now, it is driving me crazy and thanks to you, I have a better idea of how it works and how to fix. Right now, before I remove and replace with a used motor or a new one, I need diagnostics on whether it is my Control Unit or the Motor. I'll post a short video of my problem
Hope you get it sorted.
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Brilliant! I landed here as I was trying to understand what the issue was with my pajero brake system. It just does a whining in the brake module itself. Seems like no need to replace it completely. thank you
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Absolutely superb video. You are highly inventive and don't just replace everything and spend £800 for a complete unit. Excellent skills in rebuilding the motor.
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Mind blowing repair👍
Really for most part's changers, this repair is impossible they won't even bother to disassemble & find the cause of failure
But you fixed, & I'm sure your fix will last till it reaches the salvage yard😉
Stay Safe❤
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Today this happened to my Pajero CK/V77. I hope we have to same problem so I'll be able to solve it.
Thanks a lot!
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Oh la la la!Thank you so much for your video!Same problem.The official seller he wanted 1000euro for the motor and 2500 to replace all the abs unit.Have a nice day.
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Thanks a lot sir its a great video. I am not a mechanic ( I am in electronics side )but i am trying to solve my CD light blinking om my montero.Again you have done a great video and good repair
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Hi Luis I find when changing brushes that are staked or spot welded if you cut the pigtail of the old brush close to the spot weld you can solder the new brush to the stub and save time and work
Good idea!
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I did that..but it seems like the excess heat melted it.. only work for a day
This is great content. I have the same problem on my 3.2DID Pajero and this is exactly the same thing. Thanks for sharing this valuable knowledge. Many Thanks!
Not a problem...
Hope you get it sorted!
Se precisares de mais alguma coisa, não hesites!
Um abraço!
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@@LMAutoRepairs Thanks for the quick response! Especially the part in Portuguese!
Best video on this topic. Just replaced mine with a used one but now thabks to you ill order the part and repair the motor thanks
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Thank you to make this video for us.What y want to say is that if you could find the correct brushes (and y know that the comutator on the rotor is a bit worn) you could repair it by replaceing the brushes,not the rotor.
brushes are easy, just measure the size, and you can file larger size down, all sizes from china. (BUT maybe softer and wear faster than original, who often use copper infused brushes) but in this case it wasnt only the brushes, the commutator was worn to the point it fell apart, i guess they make the brushes long and hard enough to last as long as the commutator
Thank you for another very interesting diagnostic and repair video!!!
Many useful tips and tricks and huge atenttion on crucial details.
Even I would either diagnose and replace that motor or send it to the guy to try to fix it, I'm still finding this wideo very interesting and pleassure to watch.
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Amazing work mate, I really love the videos where you take things into bits 👍👍👍
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Always breaking everything into bits...
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yet another first class repair,well done to you sir.
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You are a genius bud shame you don't live Scotland to fix my Peugeot .
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I wouldn't take it that far... but thank you for watching and for your comment!
Both pump relays are the same but mounted 180 degrees apart, so watch this, the system needs both relays and both power the pump motor.
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Really good information as usual...looking forward to this years videos from you
Thanks... just checked today actually...
I have 46 videos already ready to publish... 😉
I need your help mate i have gen 4 shogun with similar faults and others maybe, how do i get in contact with you to have a diagnostic?
i have a mate that get quite a few motors like that tho his shop .send them of to west country windings. hes been useing them for years . send the old motor and gets it back done and with a warranty
That's good as well!
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@@LMAutoRepairs forgot to say a very good video
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Great work Luis, I would love to see you fix a Mercedes SBC pump motor & get the red warning of death code removed!! I have one if you want to have a try. It would make you a legend on the net to sort out one of these.
I would have a go... but without having the car to test would be complicated...
I actually had that is the past... but the owner supplied a second hand SBC... so I just had to replace it....
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@@LMAutoRepairs Luis, I would willingly bring the car to you even if you lived in John O' Groats to get it fixed! I have fitted a second-hand pump just to get the car mobile but the abs & the esp fault codes are still there as I can not 'code' the sbc pump to the car that needs the Mercedes X system requiring a visit to a dealership & huge money even if they would do it for me (I doubt it with secondhand pump) it's more than the car is worth with their prices. I have the original pump that is coded for the car. It is a lovely car apart from this problem. I live in Farnham, Surrey. Wishing you all the best Luis.
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You are quite far away from me!
And what if I couldn't do/finish it on the same day?
@@LMAutoRepairs I would leave it with you & catch a train home if it can't be finished Louis. What is your location? Perhaps you could text me Louis? 07544655273, Thanks Keith
@@keithglaysher737 Hi. There is an independent merc specialist in Ashtead that might have a go.. Or might not. But give them a ring and see.
Great fix, Luis. I wouldn't be surprised if a garage charged £1500 for a new motor and fitting. If they fitted a whole assembly, goodness knows what the bill would have been.
HNY, Luis.
Probably...
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Good job. I got great information through this video.
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You sir deserve my sub! thank you for the detailed tour of the fix!
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Fantastic video. Thanks for sharing. Question; Would you happen to have a source/link or PN for the seals? Thanks in advance!
With hindsight, especially when you consider there are only two bolts holding the motor, would it not be easier to leave the master cylinder in place and work under it blind and remove the two bolts and draw the motor out without disturbing the master cylinder and its hydraulics?
Possibly... but I did not knew that at the time... neither knew that the issue was indeed the motor... 👍
If I get another one with the same issue, I will definitely avoid to remove the whole thing...
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@@LMAutoRepairs It's damn near impossible, far easier to remove the whole unit like you did, the biggest pain is bleeding all the brakes!
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@@LMAutoRepairs Hello , I need help , I fix my own stuff but this has me beat , 98 Mitsubishi pajero / montero lwb gls , I have no top brake light and no rear wiper , i have turn signals , bottom brake lights work , I have tested the bulbs and the cluster and fuses , I hit a huge pot hole smelled some plastic burn, lost my alternator the
A/T light battery light came on was down to 9v I replaced with new one thats all good but I can't find why brake and rear wiper won't work , is there a relay or something obvious or secret im missing ? any ideas? Would massively appreciate any wisdom I'm not usually one to ask but I have to admit I can't work it out .
Have you measured wiring?
From the lights that are not working to where they are fed from?
That would be my next step...
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Amazing. I couldn't wait that long.
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I am having this same issue 2006 model
Always good to post Model/ year of vehicle, Never saw the outside of the vehicle either. useful in identifying version as this vehicle has many different versions
Really?
The first thing I mention on the video is the year of the car, make and model...
Did you really skipped that bit?
Anyway... thank you for watching!
Always best to put that info in the description. I think it aids in Google search results as well. My opinion.
Fair enough...
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Where can I buy an accumillator and a master cylinder as yours for my muchibisi Pajero 3.5
I bet you put some time into researching the motor parts, great video as always 👍
I have indeed... this things they are not easy to find... lol
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I have 2001 pajero I have sound abs my question I can cancel abs make buster brake its ok or Repair abs
Hi there. I wish to do the same job. Do you need to bleed the brakes after replacing the booster??
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This video it really happened me 😊😊🙌
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Love the way you get into details.
What code reader are you using to read Mitshubishi codes? Is that reader able to read Japanese Pajeros? The Mitsubishi dealer mechanic here in Canada is not able to read these Japanese cars as they have a different computer language, according to him....any clues where to buy such tool?
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I am using the Autel... MaxiSys MS908P.
Just go their website...
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Hi,my pink relay for abs keeps on clicking and the accumulator keeps on going on and off continuously, and the brake fluid in the container looks foamy..The brakes work just fine l would say.What is the problem? The car is a Pajero 2002 model 6g72 engine.
Perhaps is loosing pressure, the accumulator, making the motor/pump to constantly kicking in to keep the pressure where it should...
Scan the car and check live data... should help you finding the issue...
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@@LMAutoRepairs Thanks for the advice.
Great video and repair.thanks
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Very helpful
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Thanks you for sharing.
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Great video, but I have one concern, solder joint may fail under heat and vibration?
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Hope not...
But you have a good point...🤔
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Maybe the accumulator was the only problem I see this is a very common thing
Same same problem l have!
I buy in this story wich you say and its the best and thank you very much for all....you save my money, thank you a lot...👍
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Thanks for the feedback!
What’s the scan tool model you are using here please? I’m trying to work out how you can use a obd scanner on the 2004 Mitsubishi mutt system.
Love you work too mate.
The MS908P...
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Wow mate, thanks for the reply. I will see what I can find. Have a brilliant new year and be safe.
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Great job bro
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A link to the seller on ebay for the motor parts would be handy. Is the maxisys and std one or pro and do you have to have a subscription with it Ta
I will try to update the description with a link to it...
My one is the pro.. and yes, I have an active subscription...
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Great video and repair !
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Master@work :)
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Where you buy the brushes and the rotor? Send the link please
EBay...
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Du coup combien tu as coûté le moteur chez M tech ta vidéo est superbe si seulement en France les garagistes travailler comme toi on gagnerait beaucoup d'argent sur la réparation des véhicules
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Great video as always..... did that motor spin in the same direction when you switched polarity
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No... it does spin in the opposite direction... so when you put it back, you need to make sure everything is connected correctly!
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Good job
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Where can i buy the two copper prong with white plastic connector from?
Sorry, can you just point at what minute I am using them?
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I replaced the pump, do i need to put fluid in and clean the codes for the beep to stop? Or just fluid?
If you had the brake system opened, you need obviously to top it up, and bleed the brakes... as air got into the system....
If the system then runs properly, I believe the light will extinguish itself... but if you have how to, clear the codes when finished...
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@@LMAutoRepairs thanks, i am sorry if it was dumb question but i am kinda new at being a mechanic.
Not a problem... we all start somewhere...
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Thanks fo sharing. Isn't it a metal cover where you put those two copper struts?
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Where exactly?
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No... just like I showed....
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The brushes are toast.
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Yes! Yet another great 'repair" I love your enthusiasm too. I can tell you love the working it all out. 2 things do think that you could get the moter off on its own (now you have seen it) and is that in place of the servo? . If so that is just cap. Thank for all the great videos you do. All the best for the comming year.
Yes... I have seen it know that I can take the motor on its own...😋
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Rpm guage not working and temp at max high?
Different issues that I was not asked to look at... if I recall correctly!...
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Can I do this on toyota prius nzw30 also. Because I replaced actuator but it shows c1345 and c1368 error codes. I installed old one it also showing the same codes.
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I don't have much experience on that job...
But, have you managed to do the linear calibration successfully?
@@LMAutoRepairs linear calibration is not succeed.
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There's your problem... the replacement actuator, was second hand?
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@@LMAutoRepairs I checked for brand new at toyota dealer, they said it will cost 4000 us dollers with modulator and installation charges. Thats why I installed used one.
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Please I need a link for the piece to order it
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/382359719523
Check that is the correct thing before buy it...
I have same car same problem but the motor is working good. So what should i do?
So actually don't have the same problem...
What codes are you getting?
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@@LMAutoRepairs the same codes also. The motor is not working only in the car but when i check it separtly with bettery its rotating smoothly. I think its control unit module had a shortage and need relpcement?
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It is a possibility...
But check everything else... fuses relays etc...
I think there is external relays for that motor... but not sure without checking diagrams...
Hi please put the part number to replace and where to buy it
Check the first comment...
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Its seems tho its too much work. I ended up buying a rebuilt one from ebay and worked out for me.
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It depends how much you want to spend... I guess...
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Why was the temp needle in the red all the time?
Was an issue with it... the cluster, the sensor or wiring.... never checked...
Well spotted...😋
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@@LMAutoRepairs I noticed the long crank and no rev counter before start. Thought it might have been a faulty cam sensor.
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Other issues that I have not been asked to look at...
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I have same model and it has the same problem as well as the abs alarm.
The downside of this mechanical/shock method is very fast fix and that the client after this diagnose will see that the car is fixed and will not want to really fix the problem.But the fix is for a short period of time,and will came back to you begging to fix the car by repairing the motor like you told them from the start.
That's true... but it is also a good indication that the problem is what it it...
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What scanner is that?
MS908P
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But was your brakes very hard? Mine are like this now very hard won't brake off or on
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does this motor run everytime the brakes are applied? thats a lot of hours to wear away the commutator
Not really.... it builds pressure on the accumulator/reservoir and then runs to maintain the pressure.... you can brake a few times before the pressure drops and the motor kicks in...
Still.... there is a lot of running time for a little motor like this... should be a brushless motor...
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So basically you just need the motor and brushes? right? the body and the rest of the parts remains the same.
If your problem is same as the one in yhe video, yes...
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1. my relays are fine
2. motor is not taking load while all the wire connections are on.
3. motor can take load and spinning when its directly connected to battery.
you think replacing the inner motor and changing the brushes could help fix the abs issue?
If the motor is running when connected directly, I would say the motor is not the problem...
Unless is intermittently...
@@LMAutoRepairs that's what im thinking though, specially when the whole system is connected, the motor fluctuates. relays keep on kicking in but the motor wont take the load. when I tap the canister motor will start to kick in. i
You know how to fix you temperature problem?
A little resistor in dash
If you need more info wtite me
Was never asked to even look at that...
Never investigated...
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Here is the eBay link of the repair kit in case some people need it. It is also for 2003-2005 gx470 and 4runner.
www.ebay.com/itm/Repair-Kit-ABS-MN102843/312120295316?redirect=mobile
Next time when you suspect problem with a motor with brushes before you dismantle the motor try to hit the motor with a hammer.GENTLY ! If there are brushes worn but with a little life left in them the motor will start to work again.I apply this tactic with starter motor,alternator,fan motor..Especially when working on the field and i don' t have much time or resources around me.
I know that trick... thanks!
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Second Boom!
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U do a relly good job on CZcams well done mate hove a good day mate form Greg Bouchard how are u ok mate keep up there good work on CZcams well done mate hove a good day mate how are u ok mate u do a relly good job on CZcams well done mate keep up there good work on CZcams u do a relly good job on CZcams
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@@LMAutoRepairs vc entendeu aí 😁😁😁
Onde eu consigo esse reparo 👍
As peças?
@@LMAutoRepairs rapaz e preciso de um reparo do motor do ABS da Pajero full 2001 gls 2.8 😁👍
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Now sit down... relax and enjoy the video! 😉
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Thanks Leon!
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Not new motor.You need brushes!
What do you mean?
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Hes wrong by just stating the brushes were worn. The core had fallen apart.
there must be some bad language in your video with all that bleeping lol
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Some of the videos would be a constant beep from start to finish...🤣🤣🤣🤣
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