Roborock S5 S6 Charging Error 13 Repair - Capacitor not Mainboard or Fuse
Vložit
- čas přidán 24. 01. 2023
- Most videos report that for Error 13, if cleaning the charging contacts do not work, you need to change the mainboard fuse. But for S5 & S6, the fault often lies with the charging dock, and in particular the capacitor. I changed the capacitor in 3 of my defective charging docks and they are now all working. I was not able to change the 4th charging dock as I had thrown it away. Try it!
P.s. seems like the PCB for S7 onwards may be different. - Jak na to + styl
Man, wish I would have found this video years ago. Bought the cap, swapped it out and haven’t had an error since. So thankful.
Cool. Please like video and subscribe if you are agreeable. 🙏🏼
I just tried this with my Roborock S50, I've never in my life worked with circuits or soldering, however, after watching the video I decided to give it a try and it worked like a charm!
Thanks so very much for uploading this handy video, you deserve the best!
Good for you! Please like the video and subscribe!
Actually it was also my virgin attempt at soldering!
Thank you for this. Saved me from buying a new vacuum for a $3 part!!! I previously changed the thermal fuse thingee on the motherboard. That helped error 13 for a little bit, but it came right back eventually. This capacitor / procedure fixed it. So far so good, no error 13 after about 20 runs & it used to happen 80% of the time. Be careful what capacitor you order people. First one I ordered was correct spec but way too tall to fit. The second one I got was similar specs & just a hair smaller. That one worked. I dunno if it matters, but the capacitors do have polarity. The side with the dash or line is negative.
Cool. Please like my video. I believe polarity matters.
I believe polarity matters.
Can you please share the link you ordered from ? I could not find it anywhere. Thanks
@@ygsrinivas Get from electronics store at your place. If not, get from www.aliexpress.com/item/32885198522.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.56b51a830Q1KNW&algo_pvid=56ae61e5-5a1b-4cae-8973-e91f4c6b0aef&algo_exp_id=56ae61e5-5a1b-4cae-8973-e91f4c6b0aef-0&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21SGD%213.04%212.64%21%21%21%21%21%40211bda9b16872485278967299d0829%2165715848148%21sea%21SG%21841320141&curPageLogUid=L0ZlIb1iuPLa
Why not just put the capacitor details in the video description 🙄
I've just repaired my Roborock following your video. Thanks my friend.
Great! Please like video and subscribe!
Thanks for the tutorial. Never tried soldering before but managed to complete the fix and got my robot working again
Nice work! Please like and subscribe!
Thanks a lot! Changed the fuse in the dock and it started charging correctly again!!! Writing it after 5 successful chargings!
Cool. Please like my video and subscribe!
Thank you so much for this video! It saved me some money. Just bought a capacitor for 3,5 euro. It was bit large but I bend it over the transistors. I put some gun glue between legs of the capacitor to prevent short circuit the capacitor.
Works like charm!
Cool. Please like video and subscribe.
Never soldered anything. Wanted to give it a try with this video. Now no more error 13. Works like a charm. Cheers for the video!
Great! I was also a virgin solderer doing it for first time!
Protip when soldering. Heat up both places. The board and the pin.. and apply solder to the pin.. not the solder iron. 😊
@@SimonSays__ oh. Did not know that. Is it safe to heat up the pin?
@@KSToh It is, if you heat up both the pin and the pad it takes about max 10 seconds. Then apply soldet to a little blob. It fills the hole nice. Othervise there is just a solderblob stuck to the pin... not really attatched to the board.
I swapped the capacitor to a Nichicon quality capacitor and now it charges perfectly again. Thank you :-)
Cool. Please like my video!
Same here
@@knotthugu cool. Please like video and subscribe. Thanks.
The same problem with my charging base.
47uF/400V also worked at my side. Not sure if it will work for everyone.
Thank you for this video!
Watch out! There is high voltage on this capacitor (even over 300 V). Follow the guide how to discharge.
Cool. Please like video and subscribe!
My man! This fixed our beloved 7 year old roborock! Swapped there fuse inside, twice, but after all, this was the culprit!
Good for you. Please like the video!
‼️‼️ DANGER ‼️‼️ ATTENTION ‼️‼️ You should be informed in detail about the subject of electrolytic capacitors beforehand. It should definitely be unloaded beforehand. There can be voltages of over 300V at the Elko. It is also important to pay attention to the installation direction. An electrolytic capacitor has a plus and minus pole. If the connection is incorrect, there is a risk of an explosion, which can be dangerous. Therefore, do not handle it as carelessly as shown here. GOOD LUCK and good success! 😊
Thank you for the warning! I thought I was careful but your warning is still good!
Thanks a lot for this easy and cheap fix :-) Before the fix I was getting the error 13 after every clean, it's now working perfectly for more than 2 weeks (clean every day)
Nice! Please like video and subscribe.
Successfully repaired my S5 with your instructions (with a 68uf 400v capacitor) . Thank you very much 👍👏
Great 👍 please like video and subscribe!
Did the same but found that it is still not charging properly when above 80%. Did you notice the same?
I did not have this problem.@@vasiliisukhachev7602
It also feels like it more often charges without an issue after some time. Do you know what else can be checked?
Cool video & thank you. Nobody did one for the cap repair in the dock.
Can I say, adding a little extra solder to the cap pins will make it easier to remove as it gets all the solder flowing.
Get a good quality cap if you intend to undertake this job.
Thanks! It’s my first time soldering on PCB. I did add some extra solder at first but did not get me anywhere. I am a novice here. I did buy a reliable Rubycon capacitor but the seller supplied me dubious Chongx capacitor. I did not realise until I was reviewing this video! Please subscribe.
@@KSToh My friend... If that's your first time, you did well.
The reason why I stated "good quality cap" is because I did what you did exactly including the rubycon to generic "bait & switch". After changing mine it worked... For 20 minutes then the dock exploded. Opened it back up to find the cap legs had arced across & left a black carbon Arc on the board. That event took out 2 diodes, the main fuse & had completely vapourised 2 tracks on the circuit board. I suspected the cap & removed it to find it was reading around 61uf instead of the 68uf rating. Should have checked it first. That alone shouldn't cause the dock to go bang as the original was reading 57uf. Something about that cap caused a high voltage Arc between its pins on the board.
Now, as stated before.... You did well. If you get some soldering flux and put a little of it with the extra solder it really makes a difference.
Your iron tip should be clean and silver shiny. If you have layers of black carbon then your iron isn't actually touching the solder & that's commonly the reason why you need to push the iron hard into the work. That cracks off some of carbon & a small surface of your iron now touches the work. Simply wait until the iron is hot enough to use & dip the tip in the same flux & then you can easily solder.
Ps I got my $5 back on the dodgy cap....... Unfortunately the damage it did was worth more =(
@@KSToh Update: Got the diodes, fuse & low esr cap today. Repaired the tracks on the board, installed the diodes, cap & fuse.
All working again =)
@@annespacedroid nice!
@@KSToh Buy a new tip for your soldering iron, yours it all oxidized so you had a lot of trouble getting heat transfer. A good tip should be shiny. If you see the tip starting to turn brown, your iron is too hot and you should turn down the heat.
Its very important to add a glob of flux to the pins of the capacitor when soldering and desoldering. Application of the iron to the joint should provide almost instantaneous solder liquidation with the use of flux. Great video and am just offering a tip to soldering novices.
Great tip! I am a soldering novice. Please like and subscribe!
Did the same thing. Replaced the 420v68uF with a Rubicon 400v68uF. I kinda tested it first cause i did not know if the circuit handled the lower voltage. It seems okay for now. Charging without problems. Done in 15 minutes. Thanks for the guidance and tip.
Cool. Please like the video.
My Roborock S5 charger is fixed. Thank your very much for your efforts making this video.
Happy to help. Please like video and subscribe.
I managed to fix my Roborock S5! You are a genius, thank you so much for the info!😎🤣🍾👍🤘
Glad to help. Please like video and subscribe.
I just did this fix on the charging base on S5 dock from 2019 and it was successful. Thanks for the video.
Cool. Please like video and subscribe!
Thank you! this video saved my 6 years vacuum
Good for you! Please like and subscribe.
Thank you! Fixed my problem and works like new again!
Great to hear! Please like and subscribe.
I did it yesterday and so far it has 4 full charges so this has worked, thanks!
Cool. Please like the video!
Thanks for your kindly advice. I also can fix my Mi mop1c with the same problem just replace that capacitor.
A bit hard to solder but it’s worked!!
Thanks again ✌️ you save me 30$ for the new charging dock LoL
Cool. You took this idea and applied to another robot. Please like video and subscribe.
Worked for me, thanks for the video! I also replaced the fuse, I wish I did your video first 😂
Glad it helped! Please like and subscribe!
Thanks for the great video. My S50 is changing as per normal after this fix.
Great to hear! Please like video and subscribe!
Forgotten tip: I saw your robot's dock.
Tip's point: If your robot's dock is on a wooden floor, u should put there a plastic mat at the floor, in the front of your dock.
The plastic mat (AKA Moisture Proof Mat or MPM) looks like a plastic circle, but cutted after a form of a cockroach's head.
You put the plastic mat in the front of your robot's dock on the floor, and then move your robot manually to its dock, and then it charges.
Warning: Do not get wet the plastic mat, otherwise the wetness will cause moisture damage to the MPM, and Error 13 will happen again. This may work.
I have the plastic mat. It came with my S5/6. I use it on my wooden floors. Don’t think it makes a difference for Error 13.
My Roborock S7 had this charging error and it was because the part of the floor where I placed the base was uneven. I relocated the base to a spot where the floor was level and the issue was resolved. So, you can try that, maybe works in some cases.
Thanks for the tip!
mine has not been charging for about a week so after seeing this comment i moved the dock over the slightest bit and it is now charging. THANK YOUUUU!
Thank you so much!
I just replaced mine- took about 15 minutes tops, very easy. I put the robot on and it charged straight away. That might be dumb luck, but I am hopeful. Will report back!
Great. Please like video and subscribe!
Following up to say that it has fixed the issue. The vacuum has not had error 13 since doing this. Others might still have issues associated with that mainboard fuse, which I also replaced a while ago. Thank you so much for sharing this, it has fixed a massive annoyance with 15 minutes work.
@@Akerfeldtfan nice!
It works !! thank you very much for the video. Very clear, very easy. First time for me to sold and no problem to make it
Glad it helped. Please like video and subscribe!
Yep it is working, yesterday I change it and charged perfectly!!! Thank you 😊
Good for you. Please like my video.
Thx! Just fixed my Docking Station with a new capacitor
Nice work! Please like my video!
Hello, I solved my problem thanks to your video. Thank you so much for sharing.
Glad it helped. Please like video and subscribe!
Awesome. Thank you very much, man! This solved the charging problem for me as well.
Nice. Please like and subscribe!
Thanks worked perfectly for my S50 error 13 👌🏻
Great to hear! Please like my video.
seems to be working now, thx!. im using an 68 450v cuz its the only one that ive found
Nice. Please like and subscribe. Thanks.
A higher voltage cap is fine.
Thanks. Replacing thjs cap so far looks to have fixed mine
Glad it helped. Please like my video!
Thanks, I fixed it based on your video.
Cool. Please like my video.
Thank you for the correct hint to repair my robot! (Even though the video itself is horrible.)
Haha. Sorry about the video. Please like anyway and subscribe.
Thank you. Solved my charging problem.
Cool. Please like video and subscribe.
Working perfect. Many thanks :)
You're welcome! Please like video and subscribe!
Thanks for the video, it pointed out a clue. About a month ago I replaced the capacitor with a new one (high quality Panasonic 400V/68uF), unfortunately today the problem returned, the device charged to more than 80%. If I understand correctly, its function is to filter input voltage fluctuations (in my case it's 230V, so with a tolerance of 10% 253V). Taking this into account, the voltage value of the capacitor should be above 356V, so 400V is theoretically sufficient. Could it be that something else is the problem in the power supply circuit? I'm thinking of changing to a capacitor with a higher voltage and higher capacitance, just not sure if it will fit.
To be honest, I have no idea. If the robot does not keep moving off the charger, seems like it is not a charger issue.
I had the error 13 on my Roborock S50, so I bought a Roborock S6 pure. Then I saw this clip, and ordered the capasitors from AliExpress. While waiting, I figured if Roborock S50 and S6 pure has the same docking, S50 should work with my s6 docking. Tried it, but still error 13. Perhaps I will try the sandpaper one next.
If your S50 has the same error 13 when placed on the S6 dock, then the problem is with your S50 and not the S50 dock. To verify, place the S6 on your S50. If still error 13, then maybe both docks need replacement capacitor 🤷🏻♂️
Worked like a charm! Many thanks!! 🙏
Glad it helped! Please like my video and subscribe!
@@KSToh I did. However now is back to the same error after a few runs 😕 bad quality spare part or some underlying issue? What do you think?
@@KimElman hi. It’s unfortunate. Maybe you try using a different brand capacitor? If it happens again, then problem may be elsewhere.
Thank you! Seems to have fixed my issue
Great to hear! Please like video and subscribe!
It worked like a charm. Thanks a lot!
Cool! Please like the video.
This worked for me. Thanks so much!
You're welcome! Please like and subscribe.
Is it also possible to replace the 68uF with 47uF? What is the function for this cap, buffer or filter?
Seriously I am not sure. But 47uF seems too far from 68uF.
Worked like a charm, thank you very much :-)
You're welcome! Please like video and subscribe!
S5Max going to dock, standing on it, show that is charging but nothing happen. Replaced battery, same problem. No errors, nothing, :(
Hi Everybody! I have Roborock S5, and the charging is not working, the vacuum cleaner always come off form the charger. How can i find out if the charger is the problem, or the battery or the vacuum cleaner mainboard?
Thx in advance!
If the robot keeps coming off the charger, it is very likely the charger. If the battery is no good? The robot will just stop working.
Hey! Thanks for the video!
My vacuum is completely dead so I’m not certain that this is the problem! With a pole finder the station still has power in the contacts. Does that mean the station is fine?
Thank you!!
If the battery does not charge at all, it should be a dead battery. Change that.
Thanks, worked perfectly!
You're welcome! Please like video and subscribe!
This fixed mine, thank you!
Cool. Please like the video.
Thank you for this movie!
Cool. Please like my video!
Hi, any ideas if 450V capacitor would work?
My understanding is yes, you can.
All that things worked because you unplug the station from the 110/220. Unsoldering and put it back the capacitor also worked great for me, but the capacitor was - ok, 68uf, as written, so put it back old one. Anyway, I discharge it and put back, 4-5 times from this point - no problems
If you discharge the capacitor, it should work again. But after a while, the problem will recur and you need to replace the capacitor.
@@KSToh thanks! What is the physics of this problem with the capacitor?
@@TechnoLogic2016 no idea 🤷🏻♂️
Worked for me. Thanks mate 😊
No problem 👍 please like video and subscribe!
Awesome soldering technique 🫣😳😘🤪 I will try my friends charging dock, and if it works I will try your fix! Thanks for the video! 🙏
No no. The solution may be awesome but the soldering is bad, my friends tell me. If it works, please like video and subscribe!
it worked, even after replacing the mainboard fuse, error 13 persisted.
Solved after repairing the base ....
Glad it helped. Please like video!
what is the voltage at the output of the power supply module in a working charging station? The power supply in my station is very damaged (Q1 shorted, blown fuse), I wanted to replace the power supply with a laptop charger, but I'm not sure if it should have 20V at the output
I read it is supposed to be 4.3V without load and 20V with load.
Your capicator looks ok, how do you know that capaicator needed to be replace in first place?
I read up and was told it should be the capacitor.
Legend. Thanks, just did this.
Cool. Please like video and subscribe.
I have just also replaced the capacitor, thx! So far charging again but need to do a few days testing. (I have PTSD from this random "Charging error..." message.)
Btw. I have measured ~60 uF on the original capacitor which is still looks okayish capacitance.
Whave you measured the wrong ones?
How could it be the root cause if measured capacitance is not too much out of range? 🤔
Error 13 is random. My capacitor also looks fine. I never bothered to measure. Just replace and the problem solved. Please like video and subscribe!
How did you know it was defective?
Calculated guess?
fake Video?
Thank you very much for the video, but before I fixed the repair, I checked with a working charger of my parents. There is still the problem even after replacing a working charger. What could it be besides a charger???? Thank you .
If your parents’ robot works when placed on your charger, then the charger is good and your robot is bad. Otherwise maybe both chargers are bad? If the robot is bad, then maybe it’s the robot motherboard. Beyond my knowledge, sorry!
Si no es la base de carga suele ser el fusible autoreseteble de la placa electronica
@@c.c.rogado8416 you have a link, tutorial how to fix it ?
Thank you so much friend
Glad that it worked for you! Please like and subscribe!
I have the same issue with the S7 MaxV Ultra Docking station. Any ideas where the capacitor is on that dock?
Honestly I have no idea. I don’t have your model. Should it not be similar?
Did you encounter error 109:fan open circuit? Or do you have video on it?
No. But to reach the fan, watch my Error 10 video. czcams.com/video/MNE1TGzaHeg/video.html
What was the voltage output of the base before the repair? Mine shows 4.3 volts
Without load, supposed to be 4.3V. But this does not tell you anything. The capacitor can still be defective.
Hola, que tension en bornas tiene que haber?. A mi me da 4,5Vdc.
Without load, supposed to be around 4.3V. With load, should be around 20V. But no point measuring. It will measure fine but still not work. Just replace the capacitor.
Had the same problem replaced the campastore now have a new problem with the laser ...
czcams.com/video/rVNh03fpir4/video.htmlsi=ewcsmZ13NODKvpda
How to know which capacitor that need to replace? Mine is S5 Max. Below I attach video for the board
czcams.com/users/shortsyMYPZ5BWH4w?si=KDqBAwNxlSBh-ENE
Unfortunately I have to admit I do not know about S5 Max.
Aynen değiştirdim 450 v 68mf taktım düzeldi çok teşekkür ederim
Very good! Please like video and subscribe.
Hi do I have to plug out my roborock if I’m not using it for a week?
Nope. I leave it on 24 x 7 x 365 days.
Just took mine apart and replaced the capacitor with a 68uF 400V, but then found out that the original was a 47uF 420v! I haven't powered it on yet but should I swap it back and source a new 47uF?
I have replaced for several S5 & S6 and they are always 68uF. So it’s strange yours is different. If yours is S5 or S6, I say go ahead to use 68uF. If yours is different model, I would be cautious. Although the internet seems to say it’s fine.
@KSToh It's an S5 MAX. I ended up putting the original 47uF back in while I ordered new ones. Since then it hasn't had the problem so I've got new ones here just in case!
@@Strange1_au seems like removing the capacitor and putting it back again is a new solution!
In some videos people replacing fuse inside vacuum, not inside dock station. How can I understand which tutorial should I go through?
From my experience, 90% of the time, replace the capacitor in the docking station.
@@KSTohAny way to detect it? :)
I tried to measure the voltage but reliable.
how did you come up with the idea that you need to change the capacitor. you didn't take any measurements, did you?
The idea came from someone. I credited him in my video. I did take measurements but not conclusive.
I have an auto-empty dock and a normal one, the auto empty kept giving this error so I tried the normal one and it worked so I assume this capacitor is the issue; do you know if I can just switch the boards entirely? Or at least just rip out the capacitor from the good one and put it in the broken one?
Yea I believe the capacitor is the culprit. Based on my limited knowledge, it seems difficult to transfer capacitors. Please confirm the specs are the same. I don’t know if you can switch boards. Does the auto-empty board have more functions?
@@KSToh yeah it also empties the bin. I'll just get the $3 part I guess, I'm just manually docking in the meantime which seems to work
Hello, I identified the problem with the base since on another base my vacuum cleaner works.
On the other hand, I tested the current capacitor and it gives me 58uF, the output voltage of the card is indeed 20 volts, have you tested your capacitor.
for you even with these values is he the culprit?
Thank you for your answer because it bothers me to change the 2 complete cards.
Have a good evening
Hi. I did not test the capacitor itself. I tested the charging dock and it seems ok. But I changed anyway and the problem resolved. Maybe the capacitor will always work initially but not sustained?
@@KSToh
Hi, thanks again for your tutorial and your advice, I ended up changing the capacitor and I'm so happy, it charges correctly, it's great. Thanks a lot. good continuation to you
@@user-nx6iy2ot2p cool! Please like my video.
Hi. Do you have more info about the fuse thing? Thx
Fuse - I have no idea. Sorry. 🤷🏻♂️
Roborock s6?
Same. I repaired my S6 charger too.
Спасибо, это помогло!!!
Nice. Please like and subscribe!
What capacitor should I buy??
It’s specified in my video.
Thank you soooo much!!!!
Did it work for you? If it did, please like my video!
I'll try but allready left the like 😊
hi, someone, might tell me whats word is in the ntc1 just near to this capacitor? thanks
Sorry. I did not answer because I don’t understand your question.
Ich denk bei fehler 13 soll man PTC Widerstand B0185 wechseln. Was denn jetzt?
I don’t know. I just changed the capacitor in my PCB and it works.
Replaced capacitor. No luck. Any suggestions? Regards.
If error 13 persist after replacing capacitor on the charging dock, then problem is due to other reasons. 🤷🏻♂️
Please suggest. Regards
motherboard
can do a repair on it
@@NRJRCE you have a link, tutorial how to fix it ?
Nice! I am going to do it!
Have fun! Please like my video.
@@KSToh I just found a 450V capacitor. What do you think? Is that also good?
@ 450V should be fine. Please update!
how do you knew that this capacitor was defective?
Someone suggested. I credited him in my video.
O riparato e il costo di €4,90 grazie mico 👍
Nice! Please like video. Please subscribe!
How do you know so much?
I actually don’t. Some I experiment, some I learn from others.
Can someone share where can I buy the capacitor from?Thank you
Can try this?
s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_mOl7aoy
Maybe this better quality?
s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_mLKxGLw
Will it work on model S7 Roborock? Thanks
I was told the circuit board in the charger for S7 is different.
@@KSToh Thank you for replying. 🙏🙏
What is the error you are encountering? If it’s the same Error 13, It should still be a capacitor. The only problem is that the circuit layout for S7 is different. So need to identify the correct capacitor.
The same problem…unable to dock. A message appeared saying Charging error. Asking to clean the charging contacts. For the past few months sometimes it can dock sometimes cannot but still functioning. The few days it totally cannot dock n now totally low battery n not able to charge also. Thank you 🙏
How to identify the correct capacitor?
Hi! Which Capacitor do I have to replace in the S5max version? I opened the docking-station and there are different parts than in the s50. Does anyone know the answer?
I don’t have the S5 Max but can you look for one that is the same specs?
I did, but there is no one with the same specs.🤔
For S5 & S6, there is only one big capacitor. Do you mean the S5 Max is very different? Do you have a picture?
How can I send a picture?
@@KSToh I think I have a similar issue - in there it not one big capacitor but three cyclinders
Replaced it,but still the same problem 😔
Oh.
I replaces the charging unit - the error continues.... I also replaced the battery - still error 13 charging error
If your replacement charging unit is new or confirmed working, then problem is not with charger. Battery has nothing to do with error 13. Where did you get your replacement charging unit?
@@KSToh My mom Has the same model - so I used her (working) charging unit. Its an original one.
FYI for anyone with S5 Max, the inside of the dock looks different, so this won't work
Noted with thanks.
68uF 450V Will be ok?
Not entirely sure. Should be fine but the size may be bigger and cannot fit?
@@KSToh it solved problem with error 13. 450 is a bit high but finally it fits. So I recommend 400 or 420.
@@marcinlag1 nice. Please like video and subscribe!
didnt work for me. Will try thermistor next.
This is unfortunate. Hope you find the fix.