How Nitrous Works - More Horsepower!
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- čas přidán 12. 06. 2024
- How nitrous works. How does a nitrous oxide system increase horsepower? By adding nitrous oxide to an intake charge, an engine can burn more fuel, thus creating more power. This video will explain how this system works, and includes a product overview of a 5.0 Coyote Mustang nitrous system.
Note: The vehicle that this system is designed for (5.0L coyote mustang) has a factory wideband O2 sensor so it can read air fuel ratio at wide open throttle and to some degree can add extra enrichment fuel to compensate for dry nitrous injection via O2 readings. It is worth noting that not all vehicles have the ability to read air fuel ratio at wide open throttle so they cannot add extra enrichment fuel for a dry nitrous system via O2 readings.
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I've been in the auto mechanic business for over 25 years and I have to say you do a great job explaining the basics. I often send my fellow gear heads to your videos for a refresher. Well done!!!!
Jason Smith Thanks Jason!
So why not just inject oxygen? Is it just the danger of racing with pounds of compressed liquid oxygen in your car?
Where does the heat go? The phase change happens and the Nitrous drops to -127F, but it seems to me that would just heat up the manifold if the phase change is happening right under the throttle body. Is ALL of it used in the phase change?
@@tarstarkusz This reply is a full year late but whatevs.
Changing state requires energy, and when the nitrous goes from liquid to gas, it takes that energy from its heat. So that drop of a couple hundred degrees was the heat being used as energy to complete the state transfer.
Hope that helps :)
I am assuming it is latent heat because of the phase change.
@@tarstarkusz Firstly oxygen cannot be safely stored in a regular car. Secondly oxygen rich air will increase risk of knocking in cylinders.
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Why not use oxygen?
tarstarkusz because I don't think you can just inject straight oxygen
I ended up looking it up and it has to do with being able to carry more oxygen and the pressure.
tarstarkusz ok
While the explanation is not really wrong there is a far greater effect that contributes to N2O enhancing engine performance. N2O is a monopropellant. This means that it can react and release energy without a fuel. You can make a rocket engine out of N2O that does not use a fuel and it will exhibit a performance level very nearly as high as that of hydrazine- another classical monopropellant used on rockets and spacecraft.
When you describe the oxygen atom becoming detached from the two nitrogen atoms this is accompanied by an enormous release of energy. Look up the heat of formation of N2O. During testing we found that this thermal auto decomposition as it is called will happen at far lower temperatures- perhaps starting around 250-300F depending on the substrate material and the flow of N2O across the surface. If you had the right materials you could run the engine without a fuel on just the N2O and it would produce plenty of power. The main problem is that the flame temperature of N2O is extremely high and the reaction products are highly oxidative. If you are not careful the metal parts will be happy to burn in that stream of super-hot oxygen. Trust me we slagged down several stainless steel housings doing testing. This will show up as an extremely high output- for a very few seconds- since burning metals actually put out a lot of energy. They are used as the primary fuel in things like airbag initiators wherein a mixture of zirconium powder and potassium perchlorate burns when heated with a hot wire. When you add any fuel you are reacting that free oxygen you just liberated in a normal combustion reaction and getting even more output.
N2O is a material that exists as a saturated liquid at room temperature and something like 750+ psi. When we say saturated it means that at room temperature it will boil just like water does at 212F. At 700 psi the vapor above the liquid is in equilibrium with the liquid itself. You won't hear any bubbles or anything- some of the liquid is indeed changing to vapor but an equivalent amount of vapor is turning back to liquid. This is important to understand when we start taking some out of the tank.
You have some choices with how you deliver it- you can bleed the vapor out of the storage vessel or bleed liquid out of the vessel. As you withdraw N2O from the vessel the pressure of the vapor will fall and the remaining liquid will try to boil to maintain equilibrium. The energy for this vaporization will be withdrawn from the liquid itself and that will suppress its temperature and also the saturation pressure. In other words as you consume N2O the pressure and temperature of the vapor and liquid will fall and eventually you will not be delivering the same mass flow as at the outset. Eventually heat from the environment will soak in and bring you back to your original equilibrium but that takes time. So this is why N2O systems are great for surge power- you can get a lot of mass out of a light vessel without any pumps but only for a short period. Eventually you will run out of heat to drive the fluid out.
N2O is compatible with most materials and is pretty inert but it should never be forgotten that if you get it hot enough the decomposition will occur and it will run away and explode. Rapid changes in fluid velocity, anything that gets it hot, any conditions that make it form a vapor such as cavitation and then get it heated via compression are all potential ignition sources. People, very smart ones, have gotten themselves killed not respecting this normally tractable material. Be careful.
I just found this out about a week ago from a chemist, he said the extra fuel is more for cooling.
Thank you! Good luck finding a CZcams video explaining that
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Fuel types is a good idea of a topic to cover, good suggestion.
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Great video. Can you do a Horse power explained video? How horse power works.
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It's used to make sure the nitrous line is filled with nitrous, and ready to be injected (no bubbles, etc). It simply purges out some nitrous, ensuring the line is full.
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So basicly... to make car faster... put more fuel and air in to engine? huh... i never knew it was that simple....
+Dark Star Exactly that! That's why turbochargers and superchargers increase power, too.
+Dark Star Its really not that simple haha. It costs a lot of $$ to get serious gains. Forced induction is cheaper than N/A but can really take a shit on stock blocks
+Dark Star Like Quinton said, if your engine block is rated for 500HP and it's already running at 450 you're gonna cut it close. Add a 200HP NOS boost and you'll blow up your engine. Upgrading horsepower doesn't just mean slapping on Turbos and so on. It means upgrading the Engine block, transmission, and rear differential and so on.
Good engine blocks alone can run you $12k so it's not a cheap hobby to have.
+theWolfXLIV i think n2o system is lot more powerful than supercharger and turbocharger but n2o gets empty whereas charges will run infinite.
+Quinton Hall Provided that the vehicle can handle the additional power, yes, it is that simple.
Burn more fuel with the same or greater efficiency in the same duration of time as stock, and you'll get more power. Simple as that.
Hello. Another great video. I really enjoy watching you. I've got one question. Could you explain once more why the bottom of the nitro's bottle is lower than the top because I didn't get it :P cheers mate
+nendznikpl That's where the pickup feed is for the liquid nitrous.
+nendznikpl As the liquid is used up the top of the bottle will fill with vapor. You don't want that in your car, It will actually slow your car. You want the liquid that will always be at the lowest point of the bottle.
+nendznikpl The nitrous is in a liquid state at room temperature, so which has a lower density than a vapor. That means that inside the bottle, it's liquid, not vapor. However, once injected into the system (engine), it is sprayed in. Think of it as a fine mist
That mist has a very high surface area (because the particles are so small), so it can more easily change state from "liquid" (mist) to a true vapor (something like a cloud, where you physically can't see each individual particle) and flow through the combustion process.
I'm pretty certain that's correct. I took courses on air conditioner maintenance and repair, and it sounds awfully familiar to that.
+asdfgoogle the nitrous in the tank is actually presurized, so at room temperature and presurized, it has a liquid state. what makes it a vapor later is the decompression i believe.
Thermodinamics purely, just like air conditioners. that´s why so familiar
+Enzo Mansur
google phase diagrams. The states of matter are variable based on Pressure versus temperature. For instance liquid nitrogen is stored at room temperature under high pressure, but when it is released into the substantially lower pressure of the atmosphere we live at the temperature immediately drops, and the substance presents itself in gaseous form. same idea as C02 or keyboard dusters. Really cool stuff.
Well, the nitrous cools to -127, but that doesn't mean the entire air/fuel mixture will drop that low, maybe 50-75 degrees cooler. Also, the 600 F would be inside the cylinder, so not measured by an ATS. Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!
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nice video very informative, but how come when people use nitrous it needs to be warm? like in videos you see them heat up a bottle of nos with a blowtorch
Strider Sky oh ok thanks that makes sense
id like to know more about the dangers of using nitrous and the impact it can have on your engine. or basically why we shouldn't use it all the time.
If an engine isn't built for additional stress, it won't hold up under additional stress. It's really that simple - but knowing the limit is not.
Engineering Explained how does one know if the engine is built for the stress? for instance i have a 6.4l hemi in a jeep srt. That would seem like something built for stress. but i have no bonafide knowledge. By the way i really enjoy your videos and have learned a lot from you. do keep up the good work.
That's why I was saying "knowing the limit is not." I can't tell you how well designed that engine is, or how much power it's designed for, or how overbuilt it is. Only the engineers who actually designed/tested it could tell you. But if there's a community of tuners who've built up the engine and had success/failure, you can learn from the forums. Keep an open mind, and make sure things sound logical. Plenty of bad info on forums.
Engineering Explained fair enough. thanks
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Hey there! I'm a brazilian mechanical engineering student, and if it's not a problem I'd like to ask you something about the Nitrous Oxide. I understand that N²O delivers horsepower to the engine, among other reasons, because it allows more air to make part of the combustion cycle, by doing this, more fuel will be released in order to balance the mixture. I also understand that because of the heat, the nitrous oxide splits in nitrogen and oxygen. Here is the question: The oxygen makes part of the combustion, but what about the nitrogen? I've learned that nitrogen gas is flammable when it reaches hight temperatures (higher than the splitting temperature of the N²O), and it is flammable as well at hight pressure rates. I don't know if inside the combustion chamber, the nitrogen gas becomes flammable or it stills inert. So... Does the nitrogen gas helps the combustion by being a secondery fuel or it only helps by being inert and messing with the combustion chamber space, increasing pressure and providing a powerfull explosion? Thanks!
The nitrogen acts to help slow down the burn rate with the added oxygen. This is why you can’t use straight oxygen injection. You need the buffering of combustion speed to control flame speed.
Can NOS be used on Diesels?
D. G. im pretty sure it can
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Since I unlocked wet nitrous in NFSU2 I've always wondered just exactly it meant lol I thought dry nitrous was a powder spray and wet nitrous was a liquid XD guess not! Thanks for clarifying this!
Now to figure out what the the "direct port system" upgrade means
I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet but I think you forgot the third benefit of Nitrous. The increase in cylinder pressure when the Nitrogen atoms and Oxygen atoms are striped from each other. All those extra Nitrogen and Oxygen atoms take up more volume than that the original N2O molecule did. So therefore, cylinder pressure is increased, giving the engine even more of a boost! Kind of like artificially turbo charging your engine without a turbo charger.
Dude, what an amazing video. I have always wanted to know how a nitrous system works. You are so clear in how you explain things, thanks!
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Wait so you're not explaining how it gets you high? I've always wondered..
+Andy Curtis
It's probably denatured, meaning there is gas in it that makes you sick, so you can't get high from it.
charlesvan13 that suck! you should get some medical grade nos and huff it shit gets you railed as!
+charlesvan13
You're right about the added ingredient. It's called "sulfuric acid". It shouldn't make you sick, but it does suppress the affects to getting high off of auto-used nitrous oxide.
Stupisest thing I've heard today. And I thought flat earthers were retarded
jsalmon Lmao I thought the same thing
Could you just use straight Oxygen which you see in hospitals?
near 100% O2 should make more power or make the engine go boom.
Dinesh Deva boost is the wrong word to be using.
Although I do not argue your definition of boost, the connotation with boost is forced induction meaning turbo/super charge. But yes nos is a boost of energy.
Dinesh Deva also you should listen to 177SCmaro. Pure oxygen...liquid not gas because if weight and size... is not a good thing. Nitrous is not better then oxygen, its safer and usable. O2 would pretty much melt the motor twice as fast the n2o.
Dinesh Deva use your words better. say "boost in power" not just boost. boost by itself is used as air pressure in most cases.
Nitrous also cools the engine, slightly. Pure oxygen will not cool it and you will melt your pistons, if something doesn't break first.
Dude, you explained that, perfectly. I began watching this video with limited knowledge as to, how Nitrous works in an engine.
Now I feel confident that, I understand and would be able to explain it to someone else.
Thank you :)
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Let me borrow that for a quick 10 seconds.
So basically, everything horsepower related goes back to getting more oxygen in your cylinders for more fuel mixture, correct?
+LolDarrellLol Yep, as simple as it seems, there's alot behind the scenes, getting as much air and fuel is the key to power, but having the right parts to take the extra stress of more power + the ECU to keep up and program the addition of the extra fuel and air is what makes it really work
There is something called the "fire triangle" if you look it up you will see the 3 requirements for fire, but basically they are fuel, oxygen and heat. To get more horsepower you have to increase these, so yes, you need more oxygen! If you didn't add more oxygen then the extra fuel you add simply wouldn't burn and would leave out the exhaust. The reasons behind this are to do with chemistry though and are a bit harder to explain, you could look up chemical equations for burning fuel as a starting point though if you're interested, hope this helps :)
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Thank you for taking the time too make this video. Very informative.
Question, I've asked a lot of people but no one seems to know.
Why can't we just inject oxygen?
My guess is that N2O liquefies under pressure, which allows a larger quantity to be carried... (Liquid oxygen seems to require cryogenic temperatures...)
"Engineering Explained - [N2O] is a safe gas until it's hot, where as oxygen alone is much more dangerous."
Turbochargers and Superchargers designed for that very purpose.
If you're talking about liquid than storing liquid oxygen is very expensive is very very dangerous as well. You need the oxygen in gaseous form for the proper expansion.
Pure oxygen is too unstable and pre ignites.. the oxygen atoms are shielded by nitrogen atoms in nitrous allowing them to enter the combustion chamber with far less risk of pre ignition..
Pure oxygen causes pressure detonation aka "knock" . They tried that in planes back in ww1. Then they realized it was a huge problem, then they switched over to ntitrous oxide to help the planes at higher altitudes before the turbo was invented and used more often
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why nitrous? why not compressed liquid oxygen?
DAMON STAHL Pretty pure oxygen is way to volatile.
Crixus S that's the point, the explosion in the cylinder would be huge. I guess in the event of a crash and fire it would be a potential bomb? but still
DAMON STAHL I'm talking like the mixture pre-detonating in the cylinder. It shluld be much more powerful if it could work but it's not safe.
Crixus S you mean from the compression and heat itself? I suppose it's possible. that's why I asked
DAMON STAHL Yeah I'm pretty sure it would, though I'm not a chemist or engineer or anything.
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how much HP boost does NOS give?
This was great & informative. I have a 2011 mustang & it's nice to see from your description than the engine was made with nitrous in mind. I stretched for that one.
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Excellent video, I now understand how nitrous works.
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I love this video.👍🏾👍🏾 I was just wondering how nitrous works cause people always see it in the movies but don’t know how it works, thank you for the explanation
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Thank you for your fast reply, ill look in to getting it all done. see how much its going to cost etc.
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