How To Order Plugins In Vocal Mixing Chains

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  • čas přidán 14. 05. 2018
  • By request, in this tutorial we'll talk about how and why to place plugins in your vocal chains in a specific order for best results.
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Komentáře • 273

  • @kkcarnevale
    @kkcarnevale Před 6 lety +39

    One of the best, straightforward explanations I've ever heard! Been mixing 20 years and this still gave me food for thought. Great stuff! God bless

  • @johndavidhoward
    @johndavidhoward Před 4 lety +3

    Enjoy the pace, thoroughness, and clarity of your methods. One of the best audio tute channels out there. Thanks for doin' it. 👍🏼

  • @chrisjennings5731
    @chrisjennings5731 Před 4 lety +2

    Sean, thanks bro! You’ve taught me a lot over the last year! Oldies but goodies! 🤟 I truly appreciate your teachings!
    See you at the top!

  • @ContactSemperFi
    @ContactSemperFi Před 6 lety +2

    Thanks for all the ins and outs on that one Sean! Like some in below already said you the best in givin izi understandable explanation! Greets from The Netherlands

  • @ayyleeway
    @ayyleeway Před 5 lety +1

    I love "brief type" of videos like this. Great tuts bro. Sometimes You just dont want to watch 30min videos :))

  • @JakeAdams27
    @JakeAdams27 Před 5 lety +4

    You give fantastic explanations of both what and why. Many thanks, man.

    • @SeanDivine
      @SeanDivine  Před 5 lety

      Sure thing Jake. Glad it was helpful 🤜

  • @OppositeOfReality
    @OppositeOfReality Před 4 lety +4

    Really liked the way you explained why this or that order, thanks! I'll definetly use it for my songs ;)

  • @bertrandcenovis6060
    @bertrandcenovis6060 Před 6 lety +1

    One of the best on youtube for real. I'm a young engineer from switzerland and even though I'm supposed to arleady know a lot of what you saying, every of your videos reminds me little things that I should think of more. And with the plug-ins I have haha! Because you don't use a lot of fancy and expansive new shits that the others do. You go to the essential. Thank you man, keep it going

    • @SeanDivine
      @SeanDivine  Před 6 lety

      glad to hear it's helpful Bertrand :)

  • @officialjleezy
    @officialjleezy Před 6 lety +5

    Sean, I purchased your vocal chain templates just because of this mix ! Super dope bro ...I will definitely start doing things like this ...love it !

  • @prod.j8nt262
    @prod.j8nt262 Před 3 lety +2

    That post pan on the verb send is a gem 🔥

  • @Tolen
    @Tolen Před 6 lety +4

    Always needed this because ive noticed a difference when you order them differently! For the 1000th time, thank you lol you keep giving all these secrets to us!

  • @hussainjiffry2901
    @hussainjiffry2901 Před 3 lety +1

    Great explanation of the order of plugins. Thank you so very much :)

  • @visioninvasion1271
    @visioninvasion1271 Před 6 lety +1

    Vert instructive and helpful. makes me more impatient to finish my home studio to apply all those precise advices!

  • @sidneyscaccio
    @sidneyscaccio Před 6 lety +2

    great tips dude

  • @DreErdna
    @DreErdna Před 6 lety +6

    Thanks Sean. Your definitely a mentor to me and many others I’m sure! Also your music is really inspirational... I like the story telling aspect. Keep being awesome haha !

    • @SeanDivine
      @SeanDivine  Před 6 lety

      Andre Erdna appreciate that Andre

    • @DreErdna
      @DreErdna Před 6 lety

      Sean Divine anytime man! Would you ever do a video on your thinking process when it comes to ordering the tracks on an album? Or maybe a video on the ways u like to use automation? Just some ideas if you haven’t talked about it already.

  • @alex_c_d
    @alex_c_d Před 3 lety +1

    Just tried this chain using some different compressors [since I do not own all of the plugins you are using] and its making a real difference. Thanks so much for posting this.

  • @dayboyy24
    @dayboyy24 Před 6 lety +2

    love your tutorials man!! one thing i wish you would do though is bypass and un-bypass each plugin while letting us listen to the before and afters of each one, so we can see how each plugin is affecting the sound

  • @Lawdito
    @Lawdito Před 3 lety +1

    Great Explanation! Im deff about to try this now! Cheers

  • @collom.o9578
    @collom.o9578 Před 3 lety +1

    that song sounds really good performance, mix, production

  • @BosomNogomPanjIzvali
    @BosomNogomPanjIzvali Před 4 lety +6

    I mixed and mastered about 350 songs in last 2 years, and still I can learn a great things from you. Just to be clear, I am not a professional, I do this for a hobby, but man, it is a great pleasure when you confirm my methods or if I learn something new from you.
    I wish you had more subs so your tutorials would reach to more people. God bless!

  • @mrrandom5229
    @mrrandom5229 Před 2 lety

    Great video man, thanks for the content

  • @ThaOfficialKimo
    @ThaOfficialKimo Před 5 lety

    Sean you’re the man! Thanks a lot for all the mixing advice 🙏 learning a lot from you

    • @SeanDivine
      @SeanDivine  Před 5 lety

      sure thing man, glad it's helping!

  • @johnseth4375
    @johnseth4375 Před 5 lety +2

    Dude. Yes. Thank you for this. Made total sense, well explained. No weird bullshit, and I genuinely learned something. Thank you!

  • @sorjlo4512
    @sorjlo4512 Před 3 lety

    So helpful. Such a clear explanation on this subject. Thank you for this.

  • @taylalemieux
    @taylalemieux Před 4 lety

    Your videos are top notch 👌🏻 amazing explanation thank you!

  • @luvaluvaproductions
    @luvaluvaproductions Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you very much Sean, this is great!

  • @infamouspowermusic7428
    @infamouspowermusic7428 Před 4 lety +1

    This is golden sir!! You are definitely the truth!! 🔥

  • @mickeytiger
    @mickeytiger Před 3 lety +1

    Amazing, very much appreciated!!!

  • @jailsonsiqueira6093
    @jailsonsiqueira6093 Před 6 lety +16

    Great! You are the best teacher off CZcams bro

  • @jwally94
    @jwally94 Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks for the wisdom as always Sean

  • @mauricematthews2348
    @mauricematthews2348 Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks Man!!! You're the best

  • @ekclay7
    @ekclay7 Před 4 lety +1

    MUCH HELP,THANK YOU MAN..

  • @fuondjingamietee4884
    @fuondjingamietee4884 Před 4 lety +1

    Everything you make is spot on

  • @valentinomartin1404
    @valentinomartin1404 Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks a lot Sean... You the best! 👍🙌

  • @jmkellen
    @jmkellen Před 6 lety +4

    Thank you Sean! I have been wondering about this for awhile, another similar question I have is when I should use plugins as stereo? or mono? I always just put all my plugins in stereo till I saw you use mono ones on certain occasions. An overall panning/stereo video (on Logic specifically considering there's the three different types of panning knobs) would be very helpful! ie. when to pan in the mixing process, whether to use stereo pan or balance knob, etc. !! Great work, very helpful!

    • @SeanDivine
      @SeanDivine  Před 6 lety +4

      most of the time I use stereo plugins on an aux track. that way you always have the flexibility of using stereo effects like reverbs, delays, modulation, etc.

  • @Alejandro60835
    @Alejandro60835 Před 5 lety +1

    Thank u so much for making these tutorials

  • @MichelCiresMusic
    @MichelCiresMusic Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for your knowledge, and share it with us

  • @therhinoceros1
    @therhinoceros1 Před 6 lety +1

    Makes perfect sense to ME! Thanks Sean

  • @prithviraj6529
    @prithviraj6529 Před 6 lety +3

    another great content bro.

  • @999GNG
    @999GNG Před 3 lety

    amazing work! thank you

  • @qwell2006
    @qwell2006 Před 4 lety +1

    thanks bro keep up the good work god bless

  • @eduardoandreoli3118
    @eduardoandreoli3118 Před 6 lety +1

    Very well explained

  • @peakingmantis5331
    @peakingmantis5331 Před 6 lety +1

    I've been waiting for this video! It was me who originally requested it am I right? Haha!

  • @ndodier
    @ndodier Před 5 lety +1

    Great video!

  • @jacksway
    @jacksway Před 6 lety +2

    Hey Sean, I recently discovered your channel and subscribed almost immediately. Your lessons are A1🙏🏾. Question, where would you use a plug in like izotope's nectar in this chain? Or would you just bus it?

    • @SeanDivine
      @SeanDivine  Před 6 lety +1

      nectar is essentially a vocal chain all it's own so it just depends on what you're using in it's effects sections

  • @jaydabliu
    @jaydabliu Před 4 lety +2

    Amazing insight here. What would be the stock plugin equivalents to this?

  • @bigkid757
    @bigkid757 Před 4 lety

    Great info!
    How would you recommend the VST chain look on guitar/bass and also on the master out fader? I’ve also have Sonarworks Reference 4 running on the master fader.
    Thanks!

  • @ELEPHONYOFFICIAL
    @ELEPHONYOFFICIAL Před 6 lety +1

    Thank you so much for every video😊

  • @otskimus
    @otskimus Před 6 lety +1

    That De-esser being last in the chain was new to me, nice one again, thx!
    If I can make a wish, could you possibly in the future go through how to mix multiple mid heavy synths? (Pads, plucks, moog emulations on top of each others) I'm struggling with a lot of mid heavy synths atm and it's pretty difficult to get them all shine like I wanted to...

  • @UnyikQueen
    @UnyikQueen Před 2 lety

    Awesome 😎 Thanks!

    • @SeanDivine
      @SeanDivine  Před 2 lety

      Very welcome Keona, glad it helped 🙌

  • @michaelblackbeats8217
    @michaelblackbeats8217 Před 5 lety +1

    Great vid, thank you Sean!

  • @joshrivera473
    @joshrivera473 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you. You da man

  • @jahwaynecrossable
    @jahwaynecrossable Před 6 lety +4

    Sean I'm a big fan of your videos. I wanna say thank you for this opportunity.
    Question, I wanna record vocals through, let's say auto tune, compressor and an EQ. To affect the vocals before they actually record. How u go about that?

    • @SeanDivine
      @SeanDivine  Před 6 lety

      Hey Gigants! For AT I would recommend AutoTune Live - czcams.com/video/rT0AWFMU-dk/video.html w/ compression and EQ directly after as inserts

  • @brad8710
    @brad8710 Před 3 lety +1

    Hey bro! LOVE this video! What do you have the comp set to on the RVox? Can’t see behind your webcam. Thank you so much!

    • @SeanDivine
      @SeanDivine  Před 3 lety

      honestly can't recall :) I think it was quite light though, not much attenuation

  • @brandongregora
    @brandongregora Před 5 lety +1

    Great videos! Thank you

  • @mrmorpheus9707
    @mrmorpheus9707 Před 6 lety +1

    GREAT VID...

  • @dspoet1
    @dspoet1 Před 6 lety +4

    We still waiting on a Studio One mix template. Look out for us one time.

  • @Deadtalks
    @Deadtalks Před 3 lety +1

    thank you

  • @facethemusic7o2
    @facethemusic7o2 Před 6 lety +1

    i find Eq then comp's work best for me too. good info

  • @CHUCHOMERCHAN
    @CHUCHOMERCHAN Před 3 lety

    BRILLIANT THANK YOU SO MUCH

  • @busybobo
    @busybobo Před 4 lety +1

    a big fat thanks bro u are the best

  • @BayBryan
    @BayBryan Před 3 lety

    Thank you for your video! Quick (maybe silly) question: why is your main channel a bus vs input 1-2?

  • @blvkqmusicgroup
    @blvkqmusicgroup Před 5 lety +2

    man this shit sound fire af!!!!! Subscribing off this ONE video! And it's the first one I've seen of you.

    • @SeanDivine
      @SeanDivine  Před 5 lety

      welcome :)

    • @blvkqmusicgroup
      @blvkqmusicgroup Před 5 lety

      @@SeanDivine Say bro, really wanna talk to you (email/facetime) about some music stuff if you have time one day.. I've done a couple songs with some celebrity artists, but I want to start doing my own mixing to save money. Just want to pick your brain 1 on 1. Let me know.

  • @michaelbautista1
    @michaelbautista1 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for the great video. Quick question - are you recording your screencast voice into logic? Or is that USB mic whose signal is going directly to your screen casting software?

    • @SeanDivine
      @SeanDivine  Před 5 lety

      it's not a usb mic, it's running through my RME UFX and I do the routing with TotalMix

  • @KennyGalloway
    @KennyGalloway Před 4 lety +2

    Thanks for the great overview of your vocal chain Sean. Quick question: Where would you place Auto-Tune in this signal flow?

    • @SeanDivine
      @SeanDivine  Před 4 lety +3

      First, as an insert (not an aux with more than one track)

    • @KennyGalloway
      @KennyGalloway Před 4 lety

      perfect, thanks@@SeanDivine

  • @dopeshotsfilms1800
    @dopeshotsfilms1800 Před 5 lety

    Nice channel man. I have Ableton live 10 Suite. What Plugins are compatible with that software?

  • @KeaganKellogg
    @KeaganKellogg Před 6 lety +1

    Gonna put this to work tomorrow. IDR where or why I heard it but I was throwing a De-esser on 1st... whoops lol

  • @gatherstudio5219
    @gatherstudio5219 Před 5 lety

    do you ever do multiple takes of the same vocal and if so use the same chain and then do u send them to a vocal bus and there what do u use for a chain

  • @honkytonk2010
    @honkytonk2010 Před 4 lety +1

    Just was wondering if the mic chain would be good on country vocals ? Thank you for sharing your awesome video

    • @SeanDivine
      @SeanDivine  Před 4 lety +6

      absolutely! Vocal chains are interchangeable between genres, aside from a few small stylistic tweaks. The approach is fundamentally the same :)

  • @bsl9030
    @bsl9030 Před 4 lety +1

    greetings from france bro, thx a lot

  • @marioarteaga9576
    @marioarteaga9576 Před 6 lety +1

    song is fire

  • @moetentertainment2743
    @moetentertainment2743 Před 4 lety +1

    good song

  • @kingsjames6344
    @kingsjames6344 Před 6 lety

    Hello Sean i will love if you can make a tutorial of a full video from recording down to mixing and mastering and i will like to see you insert your plugin on a group fx channel and not direct on the vocal chain it self and please show us your volume when you recording the vocal.

  • @jaysage976
    @jaysage976 Před 4 lety

    Dope

  • @samueljameson3887
    @samueljameson3887 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you

  • @wani4774
    @wani4774 Před 6 lety +1

    What are some waves alternative to the radiator for warmth

  • @EddieSlowhands
    @EddieSlowhands Před 2 lety

    Hi Sean. Thanks for your great video. I've seen several different videos on this subject and they all seem to vary ! Personal preference I guess.
    Question - If I use different brands of Plug - ins I guess the order would still be the same. I use a Vocal Rider so where would you suggest I put this in the chain please Sean ?
    Thanks again for sharing this info - much appreciated . Best Regards . . . Eddie. ( a UK Musician )

    • @SeanDivine
      @SeanDivine  Před 2 lety

      No rules, this is just what works best in my experience! And yes, it will be similar across different brands of plugins. Here's a recent tutorial with Vocal Rider :) czcams.com/video/-Y4_aLOJH_Q/video.html

  • @skycoast8135
    @skycoast8135 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks for this video. Question: Can you achieve top notch radio quality results without this many plugins? Say I just used one compressor, an eq, and maybe some reverb. Is it all a matter of taste?

    • @SeanDivine
      @SeanDivine  Před 5 lety +1

      definitely! this is just a preference but it's all how you use it :)

  • @milothecity6373
    @milothecity6373 Před 6 lety +1

    Watch your videos routinely bruh just sayin wasgud lol. Hope you livin good!

  • @ACOMPA
    @ACOMPA Před 5 lety

    hi maestro
    what are vst plugin used fot this song please and how
    how did you handle BACK merci

  • @allan3915
    @allan3915 Před 5 lety

    How do you have your threashold at max on the puigchild without the meter moving too much or the vocal over-compressed?

  • @mrmorpheus9707
    @mrmorpheus9707 Před 5 lety

    THIS MIX IS GREAT!! DO YOU HAVE A TUTORIAL ON THE ENTIRE MIX?

    • @SeanDivine
      @SeanDivine  Před 5 lety

      thanks Shawn. I don't but here's another with the same artist Danielle! czcams.com/video/VbVUm1QHBSk/video.html

  • @MaticBMobley
    @MaticBMobley Před 4 lety

    What if you don't have sound toys radiator? What do you use then?

    • @SeanDivine
      @SeanDivine  Před 4 lety

      there are tons of alternatives out there - phatfx for logic pro, mcdsp analog channel, waves omni

    • @MaticBMobley
      @MaticBMobley Před 4 lety

      @@SeanDivine how exactly do go about using those plugins? The phatfx or waves omni?

  • @vewilli
    @vewilli Před 3 lety +1

    Great! 👍🏻👏🏻👍🏻👏🏻👍🏻

  • @Al69BfR
    @Al69BfR Před 5 lety +2

    So do you recommend doing deductive EQ before the compressors and additive EQ after?

  • @djbatera44ppg
    @djbatera44ppg Před 3 lety

    Deus abençoe meu amigo pelas explicações

  • @DreErdna
    @DreErdna Před 6 lety +54

    If I’m ever on the Breakfast Club I’m mentioning your name 👍💪🧠

  • @armanisani313
    @armanisani313 Před 4 lety

    Hey is there a reason your verse aux is in stereo instead of mono?

  • @vibrantog8102
    @vibrantog8102 Před 6 lety +1

    Hi Sean pls help me out...what do I have to do to record vocals in stereo...I have the M-audio Quad interface but it won’t let me record in stereo. Waiting for your reply. Thanks man

    • @SeanDivine
      @SeanDivine  Před 6 lety +1

      hey Vibrant - any reason you'd like to record in stereo? Unless it's a stereo mic, you can just send the mono signal to a stereo aux channel to use stereo effects later!

  • @KingTruey412
    @KingTruey412 Před 4 lety

    Can I get the same out come with the plugins in cubase pro 10.5🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @Erick_Valerin
    @Erick_Valerin Před 6 lety +1

    What up Sean. I like to use track stacks (sub-groups) in logic for vocals. Is it better to eq and compress each vocal (lead, double, background, ad libs) or could I get away with processing everything at once on the vocal bus ?

    • @SeanDivine
      @SeanDivine  Před 6 lety +1

      hey Erick, you could get away with it but I wouldn't suggest it - you'll want to have separation of your lead with your bgv / adlibs, etc. and processing everything the same way would prevent this

    • @Erick_Valerin
      @Erick_Valerin Před 6 lety +1

      Got it. Thanks.

  • @aleDo55
    @aleDo55 Před 6 lety +1

    MUCHAS GRACIAS COMPADRE

  • @tomix1970pl1
    @tomix1970pl1 Před 5 lety

    What procesor power you need to have to put so many plugins?

  • @claudiacomas1333
    @claudiacomas1333 Před měsícem

    can u make an in depth video on how the LUFS thing work and also i dont know how to use multi compress like what do i take away when do i stop editing idk its so harddd

    • @SeanDivine
      @SeanDivine  Před měsícem

      czcams.com/video/myTcnK1lRUA/video.html

  • @mrbigh95838
    @mrbigh95838 Před 2 lety +1

    My laptop gone explode if I run all them plugins 😂😂😂 very informative tho!!!

  • @PastorSteveOkeke_KKCI
    @PastorSteveOkeke_KKCI Před 3 lety

    Great and Detailed Explanation.
    #SPECIAL_REQUEST
    Please do your plugins chain for snares, kicks and bass.
    It'll be highly appreciated

  • @FuegoQuenzy
    @FuegoQuenzy Před 6 lety +1

    The track reminds me of Kehlani. Very well explained

  • @TysonC98
    @TysonC98 Před 6 lety

    @seandivine what mic was used to record the song?

  • @timothyforry2222
    @timothyforry2222 Před 3 lety +1

    Sean divine is the goat

  • @Watikenzo
    @Watikenzo Před 5 lety

    Hello I’m a beginner on mixing! I was wondering if you put all these plugins on one track or you use sends ?

    • @SeanDivine
      @SeanDivine  Před 5 lety +1

      I typically use sends for reverb, delay, stereo width