The Celestial Toymaker Explained

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  • čas přidán 27. 10. 2023
  • The Celestial Toymaker is among the most powerful and most cunning of the Doctor's foes, despite only ever appearing in a single Serial that was nearly all but lost to time and the bbc's habbit of destroying their old shows. Despite this the Celestial Toymaker has made a significant impact on doctor who, through the novel adaptations, the comics and the audios, and he's coming back for the 60th so I guess I should make a video about him.
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Komentáře • 21

  • @lasseehrenreich5502
    @lasseehrenreich5502 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I agree we shouldn't erase or excuse art with problematic elements instead we should acknowledge and learn from it. You, Jessie Gender, Council of Geeks, and Steve Shives are the only people I have seen understand that.

  • @MRWALL.i6732
    @MRWALL.i6732 Před 8 měsíci +7

    It's a shame he never become a recurring villain in the series, but if he did, we wouldn't have had a big anticipated threat for the 60th, also he would be the perfect villain for a Doctor Who video game.

  • @idleishde6124
    @idleishde6124 Před 8 měsíci +9

    I wish more people had the point of view that you shouldn't ban problematic material from the past, but watch and learn from it. Have an intro explaining why its bad, rather than shaming people who can maturly watch the show, understand the problematic element but separate what was acceptable at the time from the modern context.
    Banning things stops learning. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

    • @thatDamnAusWhoFan
      @thatDamnAusWhoFan  Před 8 měsíci +4

      That's actually the perspective of a lot of people in progressive circles. Out of the many progressive people I know I can't think of one who would want all problematic television from the 20th century destroyed. Personally I think the sweep everything embarrassing under the rug approach is more of a corporate mentality, to appear more progressive than they actually are.

  • @em100
    @em100 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Cool video, I've watched the 1st doctor episode and listened to the Nightmare Fair and Solitare. I bought Solitare when it was on sale and agree that the prices of the big-finish audiobooks are ridiculous!

    • @thatDamnAusWhoFan
      @thatDamnAusWhoFan  Před 8 měsíci +3

      It's why I do this. The price puts a lot of people off trying it in the first place so you need a risk free way of sussing it out. Mine was piracy. Borrowed a hard drive from a friend, found the folder marked 8th doctor audio plays and fell in love. Don't want to recommend that so im shilling for big finish and Spotify instead

  • @Underworlddream
    @Underworlddream Před 6 měsíci +1

    From WIKI "Celestial Empire" is the literal translation of one of the many name of China, with that in mind I thought the "Celestial" in Celestial Toy Maker was a play on word like he a super power Cosmic Toymaker and dress like what the people he name after (Or maybe they are name after him like the Doctor is the Origin of the word Doctor).

    • @thatDamnAusWhoFan
      @thatDamnAusWhoFan  Před 6 měsíci +3

      Regardless celestial was also used as a slur for all Asian people in the united states and australia. I thought it worth bringing up

  • @greenberry6019
    @greenberry6019 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Very good. Makes me wonder how well other characters who are omnipotent but bound by specific rules from the expanded canon could work in the show. Like the Word Lord. I guess we already had the Dream Lord, that was fun.

    • @thatDamnAusWhoFan
      @thatDamnAusWhoFan  Před 8 měsíci +4

      I'd like to see the 11 make the jump to new who. Theres the time war but that hasn't stopped them before

    • @charlestownsend9280
      @charlestownsend9280 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@thatDamnAusWhoFanI agree, especially after the big finish 60th. Toymaker has a lot of work to do to rival the 11 for best 60th villain.

  • @Ninjaman1994
    @Ninjaman1994 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I hope you can do a video on the Big Finish Doctor Who 60th Anniversary Once and Future. I listened to all current episodes and I've been really enjoying it.

  • @SethAurelius94
    @SethAurelius94 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I bet the celestial toymaker was the person that invented "THE GAME"

  • @akshaytrayner1960
    @akshaytrayner1960 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great vid

  • @yuri7885
    @yuri7885 Před 8 měsíci

    New upload, *LET'S GOOO!!!!!*

  • @scarletfatefan8793
    @scarletfatefan8793 Před 8 měsíci

    If you are looking for a way to experience the original story, CZcamsr Dinopuff did a really great animated reconstruction of the celestial toy maker- it’s on CZcams and I highly recommend it as it’s pretty creepy and suspenseful

  • @IndenturedYoutubeSlave
    @IndenturedYoutubeSlave Před 8 měsíci +1

    I don't think you pissed of everyone world & people views change with time and often for the better but thing do repeat. We often recognise them as they are, the same old issues in a different form but brand new unrelated issues to the past. (think how many episodes/stories that follow the same story premise).
    So time it takes fresh eyes to spot the obverse because we are so use to following the same old practices that always has been. We all like easy repeatable actions that we can do without having to think too hard about it. This is most people at some point find it so hard to change and i can say with age that a new approach to an old problem can be fascinating or completely confusing. Why change something that works when the new solution is so much more complicated. This is often to address new/old issues that had little affect in the past but have be found to have tangible affect or simply make it more flexible to get better finial results...... sorry went off in bit of a tangent.
    Don't be afraid to raise issues as some has to do it. If no one points them out, we maybe doom to repeat past mistakes or create new ones.

    • @IndenturedYoutubeSlave
      @IndenturedYoutubeSlave Před 8 měsíci

      anyway..... i really enjoyed this video, great to have a refresher before the 60th special
      (i have not read/listen to much of the extend who verse)

  • @HOTD108_
    @HOTD108_ Před 7 měsíci +1

    The comically sad music you played when talking about bigotry and racial genocides was grossly inappropriate and extremely undermining of the gravity of those horrors.

    • @thatDamnAusWhoFan
      @thatDamnAusWhoFan  Před 7 měsíci +3

      Hey thanks for the feed back. I take this sort of stuff very seriously and I wasn't trying to undermine anything. It was serious issues I was discussing that need to be talked about and I chose music tonally different from the rest of the video to reflect that. Originally I was going to have no music at all but it sounded a bit jarring from the rest of the video.