Marty Turco’s Goalie Grades & Buds Bound for Change? | Real Kyper & Bourne Full Episode

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  • Nick Kypreos, Justin Bourne and Sam McKee start with a look back on the Bruins' win over the Panthers in Game 1, Friday's press conferences, Sheldon Keefe's status and other options in the coaching market. Luke Fox shares his takeaways from the Leafs' locker clean-up day and their plans for pending UFAs. Stars executive assistant Marty Turco tees up Stars/Avalanche and recaps what he saw from Round 1’s goaltending.
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    0:00 - Bruins/Panthers & Friday’s Press Conferences
    30:55 - Luke Fox on Pending UFAs & Takeaways from Monday
    49:20 - Marty Turco’s Round 1 Goalie Grades & Stars/Avalanche
    1:19:41 - Around the NHL
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Komentáře • 116

  • @joshmartin4815
    @joshmartin4815 Před 22 dny +34

    I’m getting a nervous feeling the buds are going to run it back

    • @bull79
      @bull79 Před 22 dny +5

      If they decide to run it back for leaf fans sake I hope it's with a new coach and that the new CEO tells Shanahan that he needs to be hands off and let the coach, coach and the GM manage the roster. A new coach should be able to hold players accountable without having to walk it back the next day because feelings were hurt

    • @CodCats
      @CodCats Před 22 dny +2

      imagine they do and then lose in round 1, likely a game 7 lmao... that would be beyond the incomprehensible

    • @bradbradbury8561
      @bradbradbury8561 Před 22 dny +1

      We can and we will

    • @thobur2661
      @thobur2661 Před 22 dny +2

      Sadly the NHL is a business and winning is not top priority , profit is the bottom line. The Leafs make truck loads of money with their current system , why would they change that when money is the bottom line.

    • @Einstein-420
      @Einstein-420 Před 21 dnem

      @@thobur2661 that's the motivation for winning the most amount of playoff games as possible

  • @julianmorales6670
    @julianmorales6670 Před 21 dnem +2

    This is the real hockey trinity cast that we all deserve. This is a combo of amazing chemistry, meaningful debating, and lots for laughs. I love these guys.

  • @CashMacGregor
    @CashMacGregor Před 22 dny +14

    i remember the convos when tavares was signed. the back end of his contract probably won't age well but if we get 4 good years out of him we will be contending for a cup in that window. now it's like he's something stuck to the bottom of your shoe. wash, rinse, repeat.

    • @VanMichael21
      @VanMichael21 Před 22 dny +2

      Yes I rmbr that clearly too, the majority fan base saying yeah the end probably won't age well but that won't be for awhile plus hope we will have won a cup by then and we'll cross that bridge when we get there.....welcome to the bridge.

    • @deedsofdecapitation7477
      @deedsofdecapitation7477 Před 21 dnem

      @@VanMichael21 That's exactly what governments are doing with their debt lol. I wonder what's going to happen when we finally get to the bridge.

  • @HeWhoRoamsAimlessly
    @HeWhoRoamsAimlessly Před 22 dny +10

    Sammy McKee is gold 😂

    • @Einstein-420
      @Einstein-420 Před 21 dnem +2

      My run it back meter is goin off! Lol

    • @HeWhoRoamsAimlessly
      @HeWhoRoamsAimlessly Před 21 dnem

      @Einstein-420 LMAO 🤣 "and I want to be a member at the country club but guess what"

  • @Bloodified
    @Bloodified Před 22 dny +18

    Ima say it again. 1 for 21 on the PP.
    1/21.

    • @Otis43155
      @Otis43155 Před 22 dny +2

      Fire Guy Bouché the PP coach

    • @nickj6817
      @nickj6817 Před 21 dnem

      Panthers 0/15 this year including playoffs against bruins 1/21 sounds pretty successful 😂

  • @quonslecn7755
    @quonslecn7755 Před 22 dny +6

    For the longest time the Leafs needed a solid goalie, which they never really had.
    Imagine them losing/passing on Rask or Swayman and what they have become.

    • @Einstein-420
      @Einstein-420 Před 21 dnem

      Even Andersen is far better than anyone they've had since.
      Hopefully Woll can stay healthy

    • @SteveSacrob
      @SteveSacrob Před 21 dnem +1

      @@Einstein-420 If only they could find a goalie who can score. It appears the multimillionaires can't get find the net.

    • @Einstein-420
      @Einstein-420 Před 21 dnem

      @@SteveSacrob of course that's a seperate issue

  • @gew9919
    @gew9919 Před 22 dny +2

    "A little less safe" Well said JB. That's100% correct

  • @otokodate83
    @otokodate83 Před 21 dnem

    I wish I lived in Toronto... this from a FL leaf fan... I love the energy of you guys and your city. Great show and season boys

  • @andrewmcleod1684
    @andrewmcleod1684 Před 22 dny +5

    Wish they would just upload the Leafs talk separately

    • @AR-wm9lv
      @AR-wm9lv Před 21 dnem +2

      Agreed! No other team matters even slightly

    • @JarradBruessel32
      @JarradBruessel32 Před 21 dnem

      ​@@AR-wm9lvlmfao sure

    • @luc0007
      @luc0007 Před 21 dnem +1

      Honestly I'm surprised any non Leafs fan can even listen to this lol

  • @user-bi6rm7eg9z
    @user-bi6rm7eg9z Před 22 dny +3

    Seeing Verhaeghe, Hyman, Moore, Durzi, Dakota J, Barzeau thrive means someone messed up. I am waiting for them to do the same to Robertson soon.

  • @chadloosemore6627
    @chadloosemore6627 Před 22 dny +2

    Sammy, you know a lot of Leafs fans who are upset with the last 10 years; and I get it. But my season ticket/membership waitlist number is inching up where it will be my great grand kids who may be alive long enough to actually purchase them.

    • @OkayRocket30660
      @OkayRocket30660 Před 21 dnem

      Throw it out and watch at the bar or at home. Save the money for your grandkids’ future and don’t waste it on this money-hustling tragicomedy.

  • @marlinadioguardi3202
    @marlinadioguardi3202 Před 21 dnem +1

    Sammy McKee you are the best.

  • @JonCowens
    @JonCowens Před 22 dny +7

    This is serious now. It is time to fire the assistant coach.

  • @pomerlain8924
    @pomerlain8924 Před 21 dnem +2

    It is on Shanahan. All the moves made by Dubas had to be rubber-stamped by the team president, which was Shanahan. And the moment Dubas recognized that he was going to need to break up to Core 4, Shanny couldn't have that and showed him the door. And then he made sure to bring in Treliving knowing that he would have to take time getting up to speed with the organization and wouldn't have time to properly evaluate any type of transactions with Core 4 before their NMCs kicked. Thus, he guaranteed another season of the same high-priced guys with little money to spend on the rest of the team. It's clear as day that Shanahan has prioritized the Core 4 over the actual team.
    In 20-30 years, when the Leafs are no closer to the cup, people will look back at what the Leafs have done in utter disbelief. How a franchise can keep the same players for almost a decade with only one series win to show for it. They will also wonder how Brendan Shanahan failed to build the Leafs up like the champion Red Wings teams he was a part of and kept his job for over a decade while the team did nothing in the playoffs.

    • @ArniePorter
      @ArniePorter Před 21 dnem

      Well said.

    • @JarradBruessel32
      @JarradBruessel32 Před 21 dnem +1

      Meanwhile his old captain in detroit is building the wings into a competitor that has only a couple of guys remaining from the roster that he had when he took over

    • @pomerlain8924
      @pomerlain8924 Před 21 dnem

      @@JarradBruessel32 Yep. I believe Dylan Larkin is the only guy left over from when he took over. And he's building the team from the bottom up, with young d-men and young forwards. Their last piece of the puzzle is goaltending.
      And let's not forget, though he didn't stay to see it through, his fingerprints are all over the Lightning's cup success. He drafted Vasilevskiy, Point, Kucherov, Palat and Cirelli.

    • @JarradBruessel32
      @JarradBruessel32 Před 21 dnem

      @@pomerlain8924 there are couple of others but they were rookies when he took over. Rasmussen and veleno. Veleno may get let go this summer. Rasmussen they decided to transform him into a good defensive forward and make him a pk guy and locked him to a good deal at 4 years at 3.2 million a year. If Rasmussen was given even a 5% increase in offensive assignments, he would be a 40 point guy which 3.2 million a year isn't bad for that production and they get him for his best years.

  • @Michael-tn9wp
    @Michael-tn9wp Před 22 dny +3

    Be bold like the Raptors! Fire a coach and trade a star.

  • @Chillin24Seven
    @Chillin24Seven Před 22 dny +2

    I’m ok with keeping Shanny cause I’ve liked what Brad’s done. If we liked Dubas and the fact he got a big promotion with his new gig says Shanny has hired good people. Keefe needs to go and they need to change the salary structure. I’m curious to see what Brad can do with some more time and cap space to work with.

  • @moonlightmelodrama
    @moonlightmelodrama Před 22 dny +7

    Maybe. Just maybe. Marner wants to be number one. Which will never happen in Toronto. Maybe. Just maybe. Dubas will empty the vault. To acquire the new cornerstone of the Penguins. So maybe. Marner ends up in Pittsburgh.

    • @Einstein-420
      @Einstein-420 Před 21 dnem

      Keefe can head there too

    • @Gypsyalchemy333
      @Gypsyalchemy333 Před 21 dnem +1

      Dream trade/ Reilly, Tavares and marner for Malkin and Karlson. Note: I don't love Karlson but I am taking him over pajama boy and Reilly. That trade gives the leafs 10 mil , a pp defensmen and a number 2 center. Crosby gets to go for one more cup and have an elite winger

    • @Einstein-420
      @Einstein-420 Před 21 dnem

      @@Gypsyalchemy333 trading for a couple old high paid washed up guys is no dream trade

    • @moonlightmelodrama
      @moonlightmelodrama Před 21 dnem

      @@Gypsyalchemy333 That works for me.

  • @THEGDB
    @THEGDB Před 22 dny

    The player that could be available that would fix alot of the leafs problems is Matheson from Montreal, I don't think the leafs have the pieces to aquire him tho

  • @Porsche_911_Experience

    “I've never had a team fall off a cliff like this before, I've had dips, slumps, rough patches, but this is akin to an 18-wheeler going right off a cliff, I don't know what happened,” Burke said before the Leafs game against the Canadiens in Montreal. March 3 2012
    2024:the damn 18 wheeler is STILL going off the cliff in Leafland

  • @JAWNDOEmusic
    @JAWNDOEmusic Před 20 dny

    I guess i imagined Shesty making 50+ saves vs CAR last night...after he swept the Caps...

  • @DharmYogi
    @DharmYogi Před 22 dny +2

    Gallant sounds like a good option

  • @Einstein-420
    @Einstein-420 Před 21 dnem

    Keefe and Marner for Crosby and a decent young defenceman

  • @freakyalarm556
    @freakyalarm556 Před 22 dny +1

    Run it back baby. Leafs have never won even 3 rounds of playoffs in ~57 years. Maybe we do it with a healthy roster this time and not worry about 100 points or 70 goals next time. What was Woll’s injury anyhow? Get new pp && pk coach.

  • @user-nh9jl1em2r
    @user-nh9jl1em2r Před 21 dnem

    Hey kipper....do you want to head coach the Leafs ! Bourne special teams coach? He's special !

  • @superp0tato
    @superp0tato Před 21 dnem

    Sammy team Canucks ! I’m buying it also . The Canucks backup and 3rd string goalie I believe are going to shine . The nucks going to frustrate the oilers .

  • @bradbradbury8561
    @bradbradbury8561 Před 22 dny +2

    One thing you can't do is give this guy over 9m if somehow he ends up staying. Let alone a raise from the 10.9m Marner is making now, after his last few playoff performances, he's just not worth it. It just doesn't work.
    It's time to trade him for a couple younger players/prospects that your lacking in the system, and take tgat money you've saved and get a legit top pair right shot d man and a top four right shot d man, and fill out the rest of your roster from their.
    9 years now with all that talent up front and not give the team a legit top pair right shot d man is unacceptable.
    The d played great this series but you need a top pair right hand shot d man who can do what they did, but also provide a bit of offensive also.
    Ya can't get that from the junk pile for cheap, like you can with just a defensive defenceman type of guy.
    Solid two way defenceman don't come that cheap.
    Better to get them in free agency than spend the farm on a rental at the trade deadline.

  • @cm14un
    @cm14un Před 22 dny

    Pelley, Shanahan, Treliving. Pressey Friday or De-Pressey Friday?

  • @yannitzikas2101
    @yannitzikas2101 Před 21 dnem +1

    JB right they have to finish first.

  • @djsmith2871
    @djsmith2871 Před 21 dnem

    They'll bring in John Schneider as a special guest speaker on Friday to talk about the power of positive thinking and that the talent will eventually show up. Why? Well...because.
    He'll close with some of his favourite go-to's:
    "This will turn around soon." "It's going to come." "It's just a matter of time."
    Shanny will scrunch his face and shrug his shoulders to the thumping of the Tom Hardy dance meme music, as he gives the "What?" look to reporters.

  • @garytibbles9756
    @garytibbles9756 Před 21 dnem

    Justin drinking the Oil Kool-aid. That stuff will make you sick dude !!

  • @merdadrezai1195
    @merdadrezai1195 Před 22 dny

    Sammy's first sentence, Oh joy, could you be waking up son? Good on you.

  • @dayleklassen3472
    @dayleklassen3472 Před 22 dny +4

    Are you crazy?? We need a future as well you want another 1sr rounder traded? Or minten cowen? Come on give your head a shake

  • @LoganFruz
    @LoganFruz Před 22 dny +1

    I think im gonna start cheering for my 1b team the mighty ducks of anaheim if they try this again haha

  • @sebastianespinosa8782
    @sebastianespinosa8782 Před 21 dnem +1

    Kyp!? You're banking on Cowen (a rookie) to support these guys who are in their prime?

  • @THEGDB
    @THEGDB Před 22 dny

    No one is taking Tavares contract without adding in a first round pick minimum . They had to add in a first to move off one year of Patrick marleau .

  • @markhewgill6481
    @markhewgill6481 Před 22 dny

    I wonder if Tavares would take a min contract after next year like Gio

  • @SteveSacrob
    @SteveSacrob Před 21 dnem

    They needed an extra day to rehearse the speeches prepared by PR dept.

  • @jeffer1101
    @jeffer1101 Před 21 dnem

    Keefe gets fired and Dubas hires him as assistant coach in PIT? Just thinking out loud.

  • @David-Think
    @David-Think Před 20 dny

    This is a better team than they had last year but they haven't settled in and had a lot of injuries and new players. They had a great winning streak. I agree with Sam. Some days I think Keefe should be fired and some days I think he may be a genius. But always support the team. It's entertainment. You lose, start again. Every year is a new year.

  • @EcthelionBlue
    @EcthelionBlue Před 22 dny

    Kabuki is like Japanese theatre lol

  • @Einstein-420
    @Einstein-420 Před 21 dnem

    Knies will be that much better next post season

  • @redtoper
    @redtoper Před 21 dnem

    Is Sheldon responsible for the power play or penalty kill? Don't they have special coaches for those? If they would have elevated both just a little they would have beaten the Bruins.

  • @miyu545
    @miyu545 Před 22 dny

    The leafs set themselves up for a same old same old next year by having no-trade clauses. Ultimately the players are in control of what changes are made.

  • @danieldagenais8269
    @danieldagenais8269 Před 22 dny

    Shanny so blamed Dubas for everything to Pelly. Run it back baby!

  • @DharmYogi
    @DharmYogi Před 22 dny +3

    The new boss is a fool. Shanahan is a selfish opportunist. If you can find a video of off the record when they had Chris cheleois you will learn how selfish shamashan is. He mentioned so many stories. This guy sweet talks people and literally does nothing. What has he done in 9 years? One guy reports to him and that’s the GM. It’s foolish. Shanahan will get a contract midway through the year just watch. This new guy is getting conned

  • @randizz7e
    @randizz7e Před 22 dny

    Wow! They talked about the canucks. I'm impressed. Wish they would do that more.

    • @dimer1729
      @dimer1729 Před 22 dny

      No one that matters cares. The Canucks are even less relevant than the Oilers.

  • @chadloosemore6627
    @chadloosemore6627 Před 22 dny

    They sell beer for the Jazz and during the NCAA playoffs.

  • @tomhall4692
    @tomhall4692 Před 22 dny

    It's time to clean house It's not working in Toronto

  • @ColdTakes585
    @ColdTakes585 Před 22 dny

    Tavares getting stripped of the C really that big a deal? He’s never felt like a captain on this team or to any other!! He gets no respect from the refs and every team immediately goes right at him because they know he won’t do anything and his team doesn’t respect him enough to either

  • @maxpayne9041
    @maxpayne9041 Před 22 dny

    I have a funny feeling that this team is not gonna do anything absolutely NOTHING.

  • @mrzedlyt
    @mrzedlyt Před 21 dnem

    of course MLSE will run it back, raise ticket prices, concessions and parking and the fans will "passionately" pay the price.

  • @davidmcnamara8024
    @davidmcnamara8024 Před 22 dny +2

    Obviously the last 60 years is disappointing for the entirety of my life.

  • @theknowshowsportscast137

    “Obviously we’re Gods”

  • @BHRren
    @BHRren Před 21 dnem

    LEafs need to demote Tavares to the 4th line All the fans that go to games next year should BOOO Tavares non stop everytime he touches the puck .By mid November he wont be able to take it anymore and he will beg to get out of town .He will gladly waive his NMC and go ANYWHERE they trade him .Mark my words

  • @johnbates7949
    @johnbates7949 Před 21 dnem

    Everyone at MLSE is making boat loads of $. Everyone. Winning isn’t everything…

  • @mgh3380
    @mgh3380 Před 21 dnem

    I think Keefe is staying Sammy

  • @chankongsun
    @chankongsun Před 22 dny

    Imagine leafs get old oil coach woody.. and win..

  • @petmiky1
    @petmiky1 Před 22 dny +1

    The best coach out is Joel Quenneville unavailable for political bias

  • @williamcadoret3761
    @williamcadoret3761 Před 22 dny

    Kabuki comes from a pitch by Jon Hamm on Mad Men.

    • @quercusquercus532
      @quercusquercus532 Před 22 dny

      That part makes a lot more sense if you swap the first two syllables. Sticky situation indeed.

  • @ArniePorter
    @ArniePorter Před 21 dnem

    Only an organization with such low standards and accountability to their fans would allow Shanahan to continue on after 10 years of playoff failures. After all he’s the guy who let an inexperienced GM take over and destroy the cup window they may have had with the proper personnel decisions. To the Leafs, mediocrity is acceptable. Other top organizations hold their senior management accountable. If he stays on or even worse gets extended, then we know that they don’t care about winning a cup.

  • @1898JoeBoyle
    @1898JoeBoyle Před 21 dnem

    Kypreos is out to lunch

  • @user-pw7zo9nm6f
    @user-pw7zo9nm6f Před 21 dnem +2

    “The Atlantic Division is tough.” Yes, it is. But when you really think about it, that narrative doesn’t work very well. In the 6 seasons between 2017-2018 and 2023-2024 (take out the COVID season), Boston, Florida, and Tampa have each won the division twice, while “the team built for regular season success” has NEVER won the division.

  • @wizwaz5529
    @wizwaz5529 Před 21 dnem

    The MLSE brass don’t give a rats ass about the fans because they KNOW the pigeons will keep filling the building, buying the jerseys, it’s all about money!

  • @LeGiTBeAsT223
    @LeGiTBeAsT223 Před 22 dny

    this reeeeeeks of running of back. pls trade marner

  • @andrewmcleod1684
    @andrewmcleod1684 Před 21 dnem

    Not enough leafs talk

  • @yannitzikas2101
    @yannitzikas2101 Před 21 dnem

    Stop giving up points and bad habits early in season

  • @VanIsland69er
    @VanIsland69er Před 22 dny

    Nick doesn’t like Luke Fox

  • @atopermusic
    @atopermusic Před 21 dnem

    Every like I get, I will do 1 push up.

  • @danielmaloney946
    @danielmaloney946 Před 21 dnem

    Anyone dumb enough to hire Kyle Dubas should be fired - that was a painfully obvious bad decision from the get-go.

  • @danielmaloney946
    @danielmaloney946 Před 21 dnem

    Sammy - does Coca-Cola care if you buy their product but get angry at them for putting too much sugar in it? They should reward you as a loyal Coca-cola drinker by making the changes you want even though you buy it every day? Is this a joke or are these guys really this foolish?

  • @geraldsleep
    @geraldsleep Před 21 dnem

    Luke Fox is such a weasel lol

  • @tonyo8171
    @tonyo8171 Před 22 dny

    It’s as plain as the noses on your faces. The only thing that matters is the season tickets sold for the regular season. Playoffs are interesting for the MLSE as they don’t have to pay their players and they get to legitimately increase ticket prices. MLSE only cares about the amount of Leaf merchandise and a couple of superstars that fans can worship. The rest of the desire for playoff success doesn’t enter into the business model. It’s all about profit margins!

    • @soul76can
      @soul76can Před 22 dny

      I don’t get these comments. MLSE would make a ton more money with deeper playoff runs, merchandise would fly off the racks with a conference final run or a Stanley cup win. Imagine the amount of money that Cup parade would generate in merchandise.
      The deeper the Leafs go, the deeper MLSE’s pockets get with profits.

  • @dayleklassen3472
    @dayleklassen3472 Před 22 dny +1

    Marner is the one that need to go he’s just way to soft at lest Tavares competes and you know he’s gonna give a team friendly after next year

    • @Spike10111
      @Spike10111 Před 22 dny

      JT is too slow and he can't pass. He's good on the faceoffs and has a good shot. But time to move on.

    • @dayleklassen3472
      @dayleklassen3472 Před 22 dny

      @@Spike10111 still played way better than Marner who never shows up in playoffs JT is on last year of contract before signs a team friendly. And he’s a got a no move you can’t just do what’s Kyper is saying or no free agents will ever sign here again!! And there was a time i remember when no big free agents would sign here even for more money

    • @soul76can
      @soul76can Před 22 dny +2

      Tavares had 2 points in the playoffs man, as a Captain and making 11M, totally unacceptable. He is too slow. And then to come out as the Captain and say, “we are right there?” Right where? On the cusp of making it to Round 2 after 8 years? He is out of touch. What Rielly said was spot on.
      Tavares is a nice guy, great guy, but you can’t strip the C and have him back and he can’t be the Captain next year.
      It’s either you ask him to waive and accommodate him as to his list if he gives one or you let him walk. He’s 34.
      Again, I get these guys are hometown boys, love being Leafs etc. But at the end of the day, they have made tens of millions and this mix hasn’t worked and they need to acknowledge and respect that. If they can’t then like Kyper said, you are forced to play hardball with them.
      These are grown men, professionals, making tens of millions, they need to acknowledge that this mix of players just doesn’t work and isn’t going to work and accept it.

  • @user-ty5md6kj6p
    @user-ty5md6kj6p Před 22 dny

    So we have two Canadian teams STILL playing in the playoffs and you are contractually obligated to spend an hour talking about the Leafs. Shameful. Thank God I get ESPN.