Mount Rushmore: Hidden Passages and Missing Faces
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As a follow up to this you should look at the Crazy Horse Memorial, where 1 single dude and then his kids have spent 74 years trying to carve a mountain-sized monument of Crazy Horse. Really fascinating story, and iirc the guy who started it originally worked on Mount Rushmore
I’ve been to both of these, crazy horse is absurdly huge and their plans for the land even more so
IDK, that just seems crazy. I'm just sayin'
I'm very happy to see this as the top comment. You can fit the faces of Rushmore inside of crazy horses. Really amazing.
Yes I have seen it. It's huge, it would be great if he finishes it as the statement needs to be made. It's one of the original ideas and legally the land doesn't belong to America. That's the least the US should do.
It’s important because Mount Rushmore was supposed to feature a Native American of some sort. The idea of the Natives trumping Rushmore just seems like Justice, right?
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Agreed.
Very well said.
excellent synopsis!
Yep perfect watching material while pooping &/or hiding at work or from family 😂🤷🏼♀️
Wow. Could not put that better. Also to add great when "helping" doing laundry or dishes.
My grandmother was born & lived in Rapid City, South Dakota, & was a teen when this project started. She & her girlfriends picnicked on Washington's face a couple times before if was finished, during one of the work haituses. Thanks for covering this monument!
Interesting.
"[...] picknicked on Washington's face [...]" That certainly is a sentence.
"your grandma and her girlfriends sat on Washingtons face before he was finished."
Tell this story with 0 context.
I believe you meant "on top of his head" not face. Sigh.
Small world, my moms side of the family is from Deadwood. My grandma use to tell stories of Borglum coming into town to eat at the Bodega she worked at. He always ate for free as he never had any money
The black hills is truly a magical place. Anyone who has not seen the faces and Crazy horse need to go. There are some amazing caves in the area to visit as well.
We stopped through there on our way to Yellowstone in 2019, and I'd love to go back. There was a lot that I feel we missed just going to Mt. Rushmore and Crazy Horse.
Badlands + Black Hills + Devil's Tower. Well worth the drive!
Yeah, a magical, sacred place that's been vandalized. I can almost excuse that the people who went forward with the construction the first time around didn't know better, but I'm astounded that people today still ignore the injustice of what was done.
I would go see Crazy Horse but ignore rushmore
@Curiosity Rushmore seems a bit played out
I have been to Rushmore several times. As an artist I find the mammoth construction endlessly fascinating. My son as a teen was underwhelmed. He valued natural sites more to his taste.
South Dakota is a fascinating state. The nature of the are is endlessly wonderful. The geology, fossil record, plants, animals, etc. never disappoint me.
Nothing wrong with appreciating nature
I'm 50 years old and I enjoy your content. You are a great teacher.
It was good that Simon mentioned the fact that the Lakota moved into the area, where other tribes had been for centuries, but unmentioned was that 12 Native American tribes have laid claim to the Black Hills as their ancestral land.
Sounds like EU4 when a lot of nations have claims on the same province
“Sioux” is an Arikara word for “Little Snakes” or simply “The Enemy” on a colloquial level - You see, the Lakota had tried to commit genocide on all other Western Plains nations for about 300 years and almost succeeded, using re-domesticated feral Spanish horses, but the encroachment of white settlers pretty much put an end to that.
Yeah, at least four tribes/nations held it for a decent amount of time. I'll totally accept the number 12, though.
I guess that makes it completely legit what the US gov't did, huh?
@@timothyhouse1622 it sure doesn't, but it does bring into perspective the classic left-wing "white people are the bad ones and they did all the bad things" mantra.
It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic: white woke people are basically telling non-white people that they're not smart enough to take care of themselves and that the reason they have problems is that the white man was so evil. For anyone with an IQ above their shoe number, that is actually as racist as you can get.
A Canadian, I've known of Mt. Rushmore for 1/2-century but knew very little about it until now. Thank you!
In Warhammer 40k, there is a short story about Four Warrior Kings on a mountain of granite. A mysterious monument from humanities ancient past and one of the last remaining remnants of that period in earth's history.
It's hinted that this is Mount Rushmore.
It's a fun little concept, to imagine what will remain of our world in the far future, and how those that are alive then might interpret the past, the same as we do now.
Know No Fear? Damn good book.
Reminds me of the Life After People series on history channel
I first started to think about other things like that when I realized what they were talking about in 'The 100'.
_"We have to make our way to Ton DC."_
Me: _"Oh, duh! Washing(ton) DC. The end was the only part of the city sign that survived the war."_
The photo of Mt Rushmore in the visitors center was taken by Bill Groethe. He passed away in Dec 2020.
He also photographed the last eight survivors of the 1876 Battle of the Little Bighorn on September 2, 1948.
Sorry for your loss.
@@chriswebster24 Not related.
Even for a Megaprojects video, this is a remarkably deep dive. Extremely thorough.
Great job all, well researched and written. Simon presents like a boss.
From 1974 until 1980, I lived on a ranch 32 miles due East of Mount Rushmore. I could walk out the back door and look across to see the Memorial. The faces looked about an inch wide at that distance, up against the clear South Dakota sky. It's an impressive carving, 90% of the sculpture was done with dynamite, hand finish work was 10%.
Carving in granite is hard
I would think 90% of the volume of rock removed would be by explosives, but I bet the hand work took the majority of the time/labor. Is this correct?
Oh, that's interesting information. I bet that's the reason for waiting to carve Donald Trump into the mountain. Or, would we have a new technique to use?
@@Kevin-bl6lg LOL. Great idea! Invite the gent to light the inaugural (very short) fuse.
LMAO😂…. And I guess you believe it was built in 1927?
How about a video of the ongoing monument to Crazyhorse?
he forgot to mention that crazyhorse is a few hours from there
He forgot to mention most of the story. Mt Rushmore is skid mark on the shitty undies of a childish bully nation.
@@hnewc1919 no one is giving anyone anything. The construction of the monument is being driven by a foundation of native Americans, who refuse federal money and assistance in their generations long project
@@hnewc1919 I’m struggling to understand what point you’re trying to make, so maybe I have a low IQ as well. However, it’s my understanding that it’s on private land, and for the last generation the work is being carried out by one man. Let’s see how fast you can carve a mountain into the likeness of a man mounted on a horse
It’s actually like fifteen minutes by car but yeah same area
I've never seen photos of the mountain before the sculpting... Its beauty is unpresidented...
I see what you did there.
I hope you wrote "unpresidented" purposely, because it's great!
The work is unimpeachable ...
Infamous Philippines dictator Ferdinand Marcos (whose son was elected President in the 2022 election; voters fell for his propaganda regarding his family) was even inspired by Mount Rushmore to build a concrete bust of his head on the side of Mount Shontoug. Like how Mount Rushmore was built on Lakota land, Marcos' bust was built on indigenous Ibaloi land, and the Ibaloi were forced to sell their land at very low prices to the military regime. He and his family fled the country to the US (his major ally; they were completely fine with his martial law because it stopped communists even though it did much more than that) in 1985 during the People Power Revolution, refusing to admit they stole billions from their people. And in 2002, the bust was destroyed by communists.
If we did our own Mount Rushmore, it would have my face along with my grandpa, my father, and Dennis Rodman.
Don’t blame the voters. It was a demonstrably rigged election. Just look at all the data and the huge amount of people in the streets for the opposition the weeks before the ballots were even cast.
I didn't even realize the account name and I was like... Ok I could see anyone doing their family but why D-Rod?
I took my family there. It's quite a trek but South Dakota is a fun place...the Needles are breathtaking too! The monument setting , approach are worth seeing IMO.
How has this channel not gotten to 1 million yet ???
You should do a video on EAA AirVenture. It's the largest airshow in the world and happens every year in Oshkosh Wisconsin. For that week it is the busiest airport in the world.
I looked for you but didn't see you there
Oshkosh also built some of the better concrete mixers (I suppose other great trucks as well) out there in their time. As a seventy year old cement mason, I’ve been around a lot of concrete that was hauled and placed by Oshkosh mixers. I’m glad they were around to help us build America!
Been there last year! It was amazing! It was in hubby a list to go to…….if you go get the ticket-$$$- to be able to be fed 2meals a day in the white tents. My three pilots enjoyed the event- I enjoyed the air conditioning in the white tents-it backed up to the airfield for the aerobatics and parachute drops…..
You should do a video on the failure of the Grand Teton Dam in eastern Idaho. It was an earthen dam project which failed before it even finished its first filling and flooded the two nearby cities of Rexburg and Sugar City. The total cost of the dams destruction was in the billions of dollars when calculated for inflation.
if planelydifficult hasnt covered that, you should get him to cover it as well, he does those videos as his main line of videos, going over enough detail to help a few idiots i know understand why you dont build dams places that are not suited to hydro..
infact... a year ago.. czcams.com/video/rhk8BJIMkLM/video.html
My wife’s grandparents home was flooded by that debachery. Then it took a couple decades to get compensation that never actually left them whole. They had some really amazing photos of the flood’s carnage and there was only 1 cottonwood tree that survived…where they eventually built a huge tree house with several tree swings and sprawling decks. This was in right in the middle between Sugar City and Rexburg…
The "not a single fatalitiy during construction" part is the most amazing fact for me!
Great craftsmanship. Experience shows.
I also thought it was amazing that there were only two injuries. I can hardly get my tools out to start a job, without scraping up my knuckles, or dropping something heavy on my toe 🤷🏿♂️
I was just there last week. I didn't pay the "parking fee" to go in and just enjoyed it from the pull outs on the road that runs by it. Also got to see the pinnacles as I walked to the top of Black Elk Peak the next day. The combination of decomposed black granite and mica made for some interesting optical illusions in the trail.
Wow, parking fees? Been there twice but not for many years. I can't believe they started charging so people could see a national monument.
Did you get to murder any Native People while you were there, or are they all gone now? Maybe you get to spit on one in a cage if you pay the parking fee?
@@mikeyoung9810 there are parking fees, as you cant "charge" people to see it, but yiu can to park.... with that said, there is more inside than just viewing the monument.... below the main walkway is a visitors center that explains the entire process and there is a trail that takes you almost to the base of the monument.... you also can tour Borglum's studio. The parking pass is good for an entire year.
Also the parking lot/business is NOT a government owned business... no affiliation....
Obviously some people don't realize the funds it takes to maintain a national park and it's facilities. Anyone need to use a restroom? With toilet paper even?
Also maintenance of the faces is required. Many cracks are routinely patched to prevent erosion and other failures in the formation.
Wow, I was to the Mount two years ago and there were no parking fees so that must have just been imposed in the past year or so!
Super interesting episode. Thanks for pulling this one together.
Britain should do a mountain monument with all the faces of Dr Who.
Visited it twice as a teen back in the late 80's. Very cool place.
These videos makes our days better
Triple whammy! Red circle, Rec arrow AND surprised face in the thumbnail... AMAZING!
That place used to be a sacred place of the Lakota people in the black hills......
It used to have a more traditional carving on it. The history books on that topic have been literally burnt: to destroy any trace of the crime that had been committed there.....
Sure pal. Next tell me the earth is flat
@@tonypringles2285
Why tell you something you already hold as fact?
why would i hold the earth is flat as fact lol? i dont really care what the lakota think because they themselves stole it from the blackfoot who stole it from someone else@@hansweissmann_xviii6754
Historical fact: There was a similar monument carved by the Aztecs into the hill named Chapultepec in Mexico City. The Spaniards destroyed it in a way similar to how the Taliban destroyed the giant Buddha statues, by shooting them with cannon.
Ignorant destroyers of things they fear to understand.
The Spaniards were basically the Taliban at that time in history. Horrible, barbarous religious fanatics that persecuted anything that wasn't Spanish and Catholic, even other Europeans like Andalusian muslims and Flemish protestants.
@@lozoft9 Yep.......at that time Spain was all about the Inquisition.
@@xenon54 Exactly what is thought of Antifa-taliban destroying/removing our National Statues around The Nation
@@kimberlyaz5280 Oh now........that was the state legilators that approved their removal......same with the flags with Confederate crossbars. So what would you think if Georgia's legislature approved the demolition of Stone Mountain's effigies? That's too much power for a legislature.......right?
Same is true for a state legislature that wants to over ride the popular vote and pick their own presidential electors.
Please do the Crazy Horse Memorial next!
I guess I'm one of those Americans that is an exception to your rule.
I do a near spot on Boris Johnson impression that I learned from "Dead Ringers"
I listen to BBC Radio 4 regularly....
And ironically, I live 5 minutes from Mount Rushmore....
I *loved* that the "Team America" team had their hidden base inside Mt Rushmore!
Which was cooler, Team Americas Mt Rushmore base or Airwolfs volcano base?
Your photograph of Crazy Horse is actually an actor who played Crazy Horse in Buffalo Bill’s Wild West show.
Crazy Horse himself was never photographed.
I would love to see it ‘finished’ with the torsos sculpted.
I'd love to see it destroyed and the land returned to the Lakota tribe.
@@devandestudios128 I would have preferred nature not to be vandalized for human vanity
Really interesting to get a British perspective on Mt. R. As others have mentioned, you should cover the Crazy Horse monument AND Stone Mountain in Georgia- a Confederate cliff-side monument on private land.
I used to wonder why Teddy Roosevelt was there. He isn’t as famous as the others. Then as I learned more about him, I’ve come to realize he’s the best president the US ever had
Calvin Coolidge is possibly the best. Theodore Roosevelt wins the category for "Badassery" though. Man got shot in the chest while giving a speech and continued giving the speech.
@@ddylla85 Coolidge was too blase and indecisive. What he would win on, is honor and integrity.
You could argue Jackson was one of the best because he killed a precursor to the fed, repeatedly gave authority and money back to the states instead of finding a reason to grow the fedgov, regularly purged appointed bureaucrats.
Taft is also a sleeper. He, rather than being indecisive like Coolidge, considered all aspects and arguments before making decisions rather than just pushing the party wants.
@@ddylla85 I do have Coolidge in my top 3 though of best presidents that aren't the Founding Fathers.
2:35 - Chapter 1 - Why ?
6:50 - Chapter 2 - An american monument
12:35 - Chapter 3 - Design
14:45 - Chapter 4 - Construction
23:30 - Chapter 5 - Life as a monument
Yo honestly you make learning about stuff more interesting
isn't it amazing the amount of effort we put into really silly ideas.
And yet we still have the nerve to say resources are finite and NOT everyone should be fed or have a roof over their heads.
Listening to the intro to this video gave me an idea for you to consider. I find the differences in culture fascinating especially when it comes to things that are commonplace to one culture and are considered crazy to another. I don’t know if that would be a topic worthy of its own channel or if you could fit it into one you already have (geographics maybe) I would certainly be interested to learn more about other cultures though.
I'm going to break the tension and say replace the presidents with Stan, Kyle, Kenny, and Cartman.
I absolutely loved taking a bubble helicopter ride over The Badlands. I would certainly suggest others to give it a go. Was a little short on the ride but thankfully it was Sturgis I'm 1998 so a biker from my State stepped forward and offered 2 cover the difference. Forwarding that to the pilot he happend to mention that he was originally from my state as well. I was astounded. Felt like I was at home which is rare when your a States away...
'a bubble helicopter'???
I presume you mean a Bell 47
Omg I think Simon would love the irony if a Tony Robinson ad playing on one of his videos
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As someone who has stood in the top of George Washington's head and talked to some of the workers down in Key Stone SD. I have looked at the history of the mountain for some time. The walk to the top around the left is not that hard. The view is beautiful. As far as the Lakota claiming the land is in question. The Lakota are from Minnesota, not South Dakota. They attacked the original tribes that lived there and took it by conquest. Just like the whites did.
You and I are in a very small club! I got to go up due to a favor the park service owed some people - how about you?
Fascinating work on this on Simon. Thanks
Thank you, Simon and channel team.
Don't sell us short Simon, Brexit and Boris's antics have made UK politics mainstream on this side of the pond.
Only for those able to read and capable of keeping their attention at something for more that 30 seconds.😋
@@angrydoggy9170 why are europeans so xenophobic
I keep up with UK politics by subscribing to Alex Belfield on CZcams. Funny and informative.
@@bladeofveng What’s xenophobic about my comment?
@@hnewc1919 If xenophobia relates to being somewhat adversed towards illiterate self entitled folk, I plead guilty. But anyway no hatred towards US citizens in general, just annoyed by the total lack of education in so many of them.
I feel like the court case revolving around the ownership of the land, and the US not respecting it just kind of adds to the story of the monument. Makes it more authentic.
Perhaps the Lakota people should consult and take lessons from certain Asian leaders on how to persuade a large (foreign) government to take notice of them.
@@john1703 lol, Lakota nuclear program. I think they'll have to finish inventing the wheel first.
It is illegal to leave the USA without the support of a majority of the federal states. The US might listen to you if your an outside nation, but someone trying to becoming independent from them, the US would never allow that.
@@questionmaker5666However the land the Lakota resides in was never legally IN the united states so they wouldn't be leave it
Never fail to go up to see it when I'm doing Sturgis.
More info than I expected & very interesting. Ty.
I've been there. Pretty cool.
Borglum demanded gas stations in South Dakota give him gasoline for free, basing his opinion on the increased business they’d receive from his monument
Did he get the gas?
We have one of Borglund's three Lincoln statue's close by in Newark New Jersey. it's a sitting representation of Lincoln
and has been worn to a shiney finish by so many children sitting on it over the many years.
Simon: the hall of records don't exist
Also Simon: the hall of records totally exists
For all the defects in its creation, the monument is awe-inspiring. During my last visit I just sat on a bench and stared at it for probably half an hour. It is that spectacular.
This is my home. I'm glad people appreciate it because it is genuinely special. Crazy Horse should be on your list... As well as the Homestake Gold Mine in Lead SD. if you need some boots on the ground info on either, message me. I have a line on a lot of the historians around the area.
Bump
"its ironic. we know".
boy oh boy that's the best moment on all of youtube, right there. :) love from the states.
I have Seen Mt Rushmore Many Times!
I always thought it Looked Half Ass Done?
Thanks for letting me know how it Should have been!
You mention America's ability to make entertainment profitable, yet when it comes to politics, watching the chaos of the British House of Commons is far more entertaining than our bleak system. The House of Commons is the equivalent of a birthday party with screaming elementary school students and the Speaker is the teacher or parent or has to find a way to calm everyone down
As a US citizen I can say watching some of the UK's parliamentary preceeding does put on a show as rowdy and entertaining as a circus.
But here lately with all the conspiracy theories heatedly discussed in the US congress and senate, it's like visiting an insane asylum.
Yes and we have to pay for these petty slugs ..aahh
@@xenon54 It's such a paradox. Parliament is raucous but rational. Congress is civil but thoroughly unhinged.
@@francishatton6683 What system would you prefer? Anarchy or dictatorship, maybe a bunch of unqualified amateurs?
how is Cuba these days Avery?
As I listen to those of my generation ridicule those of the past for doing the best they could with the knowledge they had and the morals they were taught, I wonder what short sighted thinking of today will be castigated by our progeny.
If we spent as much time fixing our consumer/wasteful /greed based culture as we do pointing the finger at rhe past, maybe our heirs would be condemning us in the future for the way worse mess we are leaving them.
Seriously, companies shouldn't be allowed to use planned obsolescence as a business model. People shouldn't be throwing out their tech that works for something a bugs ass better because its trending. Wake up, we are way worse than our ancestors. At least they were trying to build a country instead of their personal rep.
We certainly need to chance our ways of living, it isn't sustainable. We do also need to learn from the past, one of those is that colonialism is now wrong.
@@questionmaker5666 Without the evil colonialism, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Those that criticize previouse generations from their lofty positions, afforded to them from on top of the pile of bones our for fathers fell, seems a bit hypocritical to me. Its like calling a butcher a murderer, for killing cows, while you are eating a steak.
@@LambentLark Colonialism wasn't 'evil' in the past, but is wrong today. I wouldn't want it back, but I don't judge those of the past for it.
@@questionmaker5666 How was Leopold II not evil?
@@LambentLark Ok, there are numerous exceptions who were evil even for their times. Such as him.
8:05-8:29 as a born and raised Texan I sincerely and humbly say, thank you Simon
Seconded
Thank you for the video, just learned something new about my country.
"But what about those secret passages? We'll get to those in a minute." Never gets back to them...
Someone clearly someone didn't watch the whole video
Yes he does come back to it, that kind of makeshift Hall of records at they ended up making largely due to lack of funding, {some conspiracy theorist think it's really all about white supremacy, being in Lakota lands and a shrine to the KKK}.
Not true, but Gorglum is alleged to have been a Klansman himself, {well he did also design Stone Mountain outside Atlanta, portraying the leaders of the Confederacy, Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson and Nathan Bedford Forrest}.
Yeah he did
It was fun learning American history from a Brit. Nicely done Simon 👏🏼👏🏽🏆🇺🇸
Uh... yeah....
I never watch Megaprojects, but this one was really good
The most surprising part of this video was the lack of abrupt ending... I always found it weird that the videos just stopped. Now it's weird that he did an outro.
They wanted to carve my face into Mount Rushmore, but couldn't find space for my nose...
I was born and raised in South Dakota, just 14 miles from the spot where Hugh Glass had is meeting with an angry she grizzly bear. We are a wonderful State as States go, and I do have some experience having lived in Washington State, to Washington D.C. as well as Texas Missouri Arizona, Minnesota, North Dakota and observed their State's way of life. I always come home to South Dakota, and I am happy to be here on the little plot of land I call my own (which is part of the Lakota claimed State). Sure we have had our disagreements with the Indians over land rights but that geos with the territory I guess. That said, I love the State and The Mountain with all it's glory I even love the Sturgis Rally although I have not made it down there since I was a much younger man and owned a rice burner.
I enjoy any videos that speak on such things as Rushmore
additionally I would like to mention that this Mountain is shown very often in Fighting games in very odd and inconsistent ways usually
The song coming in at 6:50 gave me some serious Historia Civilis nostalgia.
I’ve been there a couple of times it’s not that impressive. If your visiting that area Devils Tower in Wyoming is a much better place to spend a day.
“I can’t believe it’s real” 🛸
Agreed. Maybe if they let you got a little closer to it from the observation patio. Devils Tower was much more interesting… what still stays with me was walking around the base and seeing the prayer cloths hanging from the trees and also the legend of it growing out of the ground to protect the children. Impressive.
Been to Rushmore twice and enjoyed being there.great scenery going in.
Been to crazy horse as well-enjoyed the history and “museum”….
I live in the Rockies -moved from California-enjoying the change of scenery from the coast.
3:27 Yessir. And, those first inhabitants of Mt. Rushmore even used teepees as hats for the faces.
It was actually pretty cool.
Info on the missing faces and overall layout of the monument can be found both at the Mount Rushmore visitor's center and the Library of Congress in Washington DC.
And it’s all a lie
@@bigdaddyjim9135 Stopp trolling, it's boring.
@@aljoschalong625 the brainwashing is boring……open your eyes and wake up
I'm from Northern Minnesota, about 40 mins west of Lake Superior and part Indian.. with family all over the Northern Midwest of the U.S... been to lots of places but the Northern highlands and forests will always be home to me.
shrugs.. I'm just me
Indians: Nothing short of annihilation will get us to move...
Uncle Sam: Are you sure that's the deal you want to make?
General Sherman: "Oh boy, here I go killing again!"
Lol
Silicosis comes about from breathing in any dust from inorganic matter. Steel mills, coal mines, asbestos, fiberglass, most rocks.
Sorry. You are misinformed. Silica. Silicosis. On a cellular level the damage is different from different materials. Refer to a toxicology text.
Here's the thing, its not just the Lakotas land. Where I live was once Pawnee land taken by the Lakota. The Black Hills at one time or another was "owned" by the Cheyenne, Crow, Kiowa, and Pawnee before the Lakota invaded. So to say that they have the sole right to the land is a slap in the face of not only history, but also other tribes that claimed that land before. Many of the Pawnee elders I've met over the years have expressed how they believe the Lakota continue to refuse the offers of money simply for the fact that they know the history and understand their tribe stole the land from others.
Fascinating. Likely these details get glazed over and the tribes’ stories grouped into something monolithic without considering how distinct they were historically.
Despite the level of detail in Simon’s telling, the heartbreaking absurdity of a couple men being celebrated for defacing (😏is that punny? Defacing? Anyway..) land that was considered sacred and that didn’t belong to them even according to their own government’s documents gets lost.
@@alexiswilliamsinc thats true, and nice addition of the pun 😂 while I can't say much for other tribes that laid claims to the why before the Lakota came, many of the Pawnee I've talked to have said that land was never considered sacred to their tribe, however it was important to their tribe because they depended on the products of the land. The water, the buffalo, natural grains, etc. It is important to note that the Pawnee I don't think ever reached as far as Mt. Rushmore, they still had a fairly good claim on the southern hills. When the Lakota encroached on the Black Hills, many Pawnee were killed or enslaved by the Lakota as were members of other tribes.
Is all of this 100% true? Nobody can really say, as even the elders I talked to while I was in college (I studied history at the Black Hills State) and even from growing up around members from the Pawnee tribe, many of them aren't sure of the exact details. However, many of the tribes to this day still claim that the Lakota have no legitimate claim to the Black Hills. So from my personal perspective, I don't see why the Lakota are so upset over what the white man did to "their" land when the other tribes that claimed the region before them really don't seem to care much other than to get all the history out there. Was it right to do it? Thats a matter of perspective. Was it legal? Again, I feel like that is all in perspective. If someone steals something like say a car, and in turn its stolen from them, does that person have a right to be upset?
@@Alex.2014. Touché. It feels like a waste of time and resources to fight everyone else over land you didn’t create and you eventually go back to. So much of the history is lost that people can be members of tribes and excluded for lack of proof. I’ve heard - and in a way, subscribe to - the belief that we can’t really “own” territories the way we try to as humans. But to push someone out of a place they have lived for so long, when you were never the “owner” in the first place, is the most confusing of all to me. Throw in deceit and war crimes and mass murder and I’m just checking out.
In a practical sense, the term sacred means different things to different people, but as far as the Pawnee explanation that the land was part of their livelihood, I would respect it the same. In the end, I dunno. I just get mad at stuff.
Thank you for going into great detail of the native tribes. I've seen some like the History channel that doesn't do this. Great content as usual. I have yet to see the monument in person. Hopefully some day I will get the chance.
In the early 60s one of my great uncles took his family on a cross country road trip. He also took an 8mm film video camera. He had some excellent footage of the monument as well as the badlands and the red rocks in Arizona and the table mountains in the desert. I wish I knew what became of that film.
Very Good Thank you
THIS VIDEO SHOULD BE CALLED: “MANY THINGS + MT RUSHMORE”!!
Simon, I really enjoy your videos. I have been to Mount Rushmore and it is a very beautiful place. Point of fact however, President Lincoln was a Republican not a Democrat.
But it kind of meant the opposite then of what it does now..at least to my eyes
The democrats switched their strategy, but the idea that republicans were the opposite then is not true.
"… it's a very beautiful place." Imagine how beautiful it would be if the mountain hadn't been mutilated.
@@mo07r1 💯 🎯🎯
One independent (Washington), two Republicans (Lincoln, Roosevelt), and a Republican-Democrat (Jefferson).
Refreshing that you talked about the Indigenous American (Native American) perspective!
If a major network doesn't hire you soon I'd be shocked. Your videos are awesome and your team is phenomenal. All your channels are very good and I enjoy watching everything you and the team put together. You would be a great fit for the history channel, TLC or the Discovery Channel. You have a great speaking voice and you're very well spoken. You're obviously surrounded by people as talented as yourself, so I know that helps. I'm sure you're doing well with CZcams but you all deserve more. 👏
Why would he stoop to that level?
@Max he would make much less money and also lose creative license.
Love this
You should do a vid on an ongoing mega project nearby to Mt. Rushmore…that being the Crazy Horse Memorial!
Thanks Simon, as someone that actually lives outside of the US (crazy - I know!) I learnt a lot from this video. Shout out to Bailey Sarian's Dark History Podcast about the land wars that happened before the construction of Mt Rushmore. There is also a video of the podcast on You Tube.
My family came to the Americas about 3 generations ago from Ireland. They landed in Canada and ventured south to the Appalachian mountains. When they flooded the land in the name of industrial progress my family migrated to PA and ended up to current established their permanent residence in Detroit. My uncles were all uneducated worked as Lumberjacks and Miners, some were farmers. Your comment mentioned land wars. The mountain folk were forced off their land with unfair offers. Many families were displaced throughout history that their stories are untold.
@@Republican_Extremest Maybe land wars wasn't quite right. Sounds like you have a very interesting past :)
How is it crazy to live outside of the United States?
@@MrShanester117 We are talking Asylum level lol. There are some people that think New Zealand doesn't exist, but if that is true then do I exist or is life all a dream in someone else's imagination 🤪
I love you,Simon Whistler 😍.
I love Simon
I've been to Mount Rushmore. There is an entire portion of the visitor's center dedicated to Borglund.
Lakota and Dakota (if I remember right from talking to the natives, while working at a local walmart) are seperate tribes, and not interchangeable. They are sperate tribes that were combined and given the government name of Sioux.
While not interchangeable, they are both part of the Oceti Sakowin, along with Nakotas.
Feels like this was supposed to be "Into the Shadows" episode instead :D
never knew a Dane build this makes me proud
Well you got most of it right. The Sioux Indians TOOK that land from the Blackfoot and crow about 100 years before then. Their ancestral lands being in Wisconsin before that and who knows where else before that.
in many cases with land, it's a matter of "who stole it last" that's considered the "owner".
and it's so belligerent of the government with this. the indians file a court case, WIN, and then the govt is like "yeah you're right you own it, but we're still not going to give it back to you. what are you gonna do about it? file another court case?" and so they do. rinse and repeat.
But you have to draw a line somewhere I guess. Reminds me a little of the millenium falcon in star wars. Hey that's Mine! who stole it from him, who stole it from him, who stole it from him, who stole it from him, who stole it FROM ME! round and round it goes. Most of the time it's impossible (as well as impractical) to return it to the original owner, so you have to decide which thief gets to keep it. (usually the current holder, though occasionally with the one a few steps back with the most invested in it) In this case the US Govt is both the current owner AND the one with the most invested in it, so it's not likely to change, ever. The govt would be happy to just pay them off to get rid of the issue, but the indians honestly aren't interested in the money. But I don't think they're interested in the land either - I mean seriously, what would they DO with it? Start charging the visitors a fee at the center I suppose, but really there's not much left. I suspect at this point they're just using it to keep themselves visible. Their stolen land is a big part of their heritage, and if they settled it (or really even if they WON it back) its visibility would be greatly diminished. It's worth a lot more to them as an "ongoing injustice" and I think they're happy to keep filing court cases, winning them, and seemingly "getting nothing out of it" short of the publicity and renewed visibility - which was the point all along. They know they're never going to get it back, but they can keep collecting on the publicity.
@@virt1one almost all the Indians existed by conquering other lands. It's nobody's "ancestral" homes unless they have idk 500-1000 years minimum there.
@@virt1one " I mean seriously, what would they DO with it?" I don't know, live there? "they can keep collecting on the publicity." If they wanted to collect on something, they would have accepted the billion+ dollar settlement. Clearly they want the land back.
@@ntdscherer Without large funds how would infrastructure and transportation be set up in what is effectively wilderness?
@@questionmaker5666 Have the rightful owners expressed a need for infrastructure and transportation?
The Souix were not there first, it was claimed between Arikara, Cheyenne, and another tribe which escapes my mind at the moment where the Souix kicked them off. Secondly, the gold prospectors rushing there came after the Civil War not before. Thirdly, though you are right on the 68 Laramie Treaty one can make many arguments on both sides of when or who broke it. Fourthly the Lakota have nothing to do with why it was called Dakota it was the Dakota Souix its name comes from not the Lakota Souix. As for a fifth point it is either Sakakawea (as the Mandan called her) or Sagagawea(as her own Shoshone tribe called her which translates as "Bird Woman").I don't get annoyed when one fact gets wrong, but there are alot in here and I do apologize if you take it the wrong way, but get a little timeline and facts that are true and in chronological order.
Amen brother! I was reading to see if any others caught his mistakes. I though don't mind if he is offened by your statements or my approval of them. He also just doesn't seem to like America or Americans either.
@@larrybutler2807 that Sakakawea one was the one that made me fed up as that one is especially a pet peeve of mine being from North Dakota.
The first major gold strike was in 1820, which definitely places it before the Civil War.
@@scottnelson9 a rush constitutes... well if you don't know the difference between a strike and a rush I won't explain. Not to mention there wouldn't have been a rush at that time since towns would have been burned and raided heavily, especially during the Civil War.
@@leefischer5814 we aren’t pretending that gold was ignored for over 45 years until the civil war ended.
I like that Simon doesn't name the British PM. Because you never know who it could be
Excellent work, I love history. Ask me in 10 years how I feel about what's going on now and see if I still like history. 👁️🤔