Video shows fatal crash as Troy officer drove at high speed
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- čas přidán 24. 08. 2023
- In the early hours of Feb. 22, 2023, a Troy, NY police officer responding to an emergency call broadsided a Honda sedan in an intersection, killing its driver. City leaders have declined to answer questions about their police emergency response policies, including whether officers don't use sirens.
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I was a police officer for 33 years. Let's call it like it is. Red lights and sirens aren't right of way in a controlled intersection particularly when you consider the side street traffic is obstructed by buildings. The requirement in most states is to stop and proceed when safe to do so. My training officer told me to remember you can't help anyone if you don't get to the call safely. This is an utter disregard for public safety.
Thank you! I remember when they used to slow down at lights and intersections with lights and sirens. Nowadays it seems like " I have on my lights and sirens and coming in hot now get out of my way!" with NO regard to public safety. Maybe you being the officer you are should teach other officers what to do when in a call.
I understand there is a FIGHT IN PROGRESS" but that is no reason to put the rest of the public at risk! All emergency vehicles have to follow these rules of the road when under an emergency, yet police officers seem to think they are above that.
@@MomeGnomein my state where I live it’s the policy to stop at all intersections and proceed when it’s clear and safe
Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
Due regard certainly wasn’t followed. Let’s get there as fast as we can!!
where is that? @@MomeGnome seems pretty dangerous.
78+ mph through a residential town with busy streets and a red light with no audible warning and blocked vision. Horrible! My condolences to the family.
right, aren't they supposed to clear an intersection prior to obliterating other drivers?
@@bikesandbandos sum places thats the policy, I guess others may have not caught up with the times yet?
I clicked the link and read the article a lot of shady shit man. No body cam footage, no dash cam footage (the dash cam comes on when they turn on the sirens and a lot of cops in that area don’t turn on the sirens because of that), the police took the camera footage from the gas station across from the McDonald’s which would have shown everything clearly. This is just sad my condolences to the family and I hope justice is served.
And driving like he was going to an active shooter at a school. Awful & so preventable!😢
@@Scrildo1 our squad cams came on when the emergency lights were turned on
That cop definitely needs to be held accountable. Manslaughter charges at the least. The amount of stupidity is overwhelming.
can not agree more, like I said in another reply there was NO COMMON SENSE and so agree the amount of stupidity did overwhelm..........what was making him to act stupid is the meat here, was it a one off or did he have a stupid tatoo on his face because his whole employment been a idiot........budget cuts maybe?
They just changed the IQ or test score to get in the navy ha!
Totally.
If you lived in Troy or the Albany area. This would not surprise you. That city and police Department has been the "pits' for about 2 decades. Just write the check to the widow and move on. This will come out far worse as far as the amount goes if they don't settle. All those people and they only interviewed 1 person? What does that tell you?
He wont be. He may take disability medical retirement.
no
That nurse was really on the ball. Her evaluation and reaction time to the police SUV suddenly coming back across the road at her were nothing short of amazing.
I completely agree. She completely avoided damage to her car at the hands of reckless terrorists-aka police.
She didn’t have to move at all lol
@@jasonxii3141 Yes, she did. Her car never fully stopped, it was always rolling at a slow pace. If she kept it rolling at that slow pace, the police car would have hit her car. If she suddenly came to a complete stop, the police car still would have hit her vehicle, because she was slowly rolling into his path. Her only option was to speed up out of the way, if she didnt want her vehicle struck.
situational awareness saves lives.!!!!!!!
@MrTrevortxeartxe Let's be dramatic, because we all know first sign of trouble you'll dial 911 asking that "terrorist" for help. One bad cop doesn't represent them all
80 in a 30 mph zone is unacceptable especially sense two other police cars were already there. The police also need to be held accountable for their actions. This cop really had no need to be going that fast.
Truuuuuuuuuue@@MomeGnome
@@MomeGnome are you stupid? two cop cars were already there
78 MPH, not 80 MPH.
@MomeGnome So basically it seems people are going to die either way. Odd how you seem to excuse this as collateral damage.
Cops love guns and driving fast
I am very sorry for the victim here. He has two infant boys and was working to earn extra for his family. I hope his family can get over this tragedy and his kids have a good future.
I hope the police force and the city can pay for the families sufferings
You wouldnt believe how many illegal immigrants are being killed everyday here, in the news its 4 out of 5.
@@jamie-bx8bd no but if they are financially not well off, like if the mom has no job and has to take care of kids all day, what would they do if he was the one bringing in all the money? It would be a huge relief and take a load of stress off their shoulders if they could get a good sum of money.
You never get over it. It's forever. You might get better at dealing with it over time, but it never diminishes. Every morning, several times a day and at the end of the day, they will remember.
@@jamie-bx8bd no silly. It feeds the living. Are you not reading he died working extra hours for his family. So they need more now. Hence the plan for them to recieve funds for the violation of his civil rights and rigjt to safe roads
I read a report that the deceased had been checked for drugs and alcohol during the autopsy but I wonder if the officer who clearly caused this accident was checked for the same? I doubt it!
They looking for a way to blame the deceased and not pay
Na when you have a badge you're above the law, hence why he was going 78 miles per hour in a 30 zone and ran multiple red lights, even after there was already 2 other officers.
All for a "domestic disturbance"
Haha, of course not. Pigs protect pigs. He is probably back at work, no lessons learned and still being irresponsible and stupid. Go police!
Yeah, I've seen on dash cam and even police dash cam where you can hear law enforcement actively searching for something and working to change the focus and blame the person that they hit or killed. And they wonder why the public has lost faith in their ability to police? There needs to be accountability, that means no one is above the law. Anyone that you can hear at any point in time trying to figure out a way to rewrite the truth or omit parts of truth is obviously not someone who should be trusted with a gun
Always trying to Cover the Cops ass. Always. We need Protection from the Police.
I lost my 2 bf's almost 10years here in Vancouver when a cop went thru a red light at over 100km/hr striking them on the drivers side. They had just left my house 4 blocks away. No sirens, just lights at an intersection that was obscured by trees. The cop had no injuries and received a $200 fine. We were friends since kindergarten. Not a day goes by that I don't think about them.
this is so sad to hear, i am sorry that this happened to them. when im at a red light, i often check both sides before i go even if it's green. because you just never know.
Boyfriends or best ftiends.
That’s terrible. The cop shouldn’t have been driving that fast though a red light. He should be held accountable.
He’s responding code 3 dumbass 😂😂 also he was held accountable clearly you didn’t watch the full video
Or pay attention and you will live another day. The siren is there for a reason. I bet you the same loser who cries when the cops don't come on time when you call them lmao
Did you not hear the view is obstructed? the pig should have slowed.
@@matthoffman8162 "the pig" have some respect bozo
@@johnrambo1349 Did you listen to the video? A witness claimed that the officer was not using a siren.
Regardless of what the DA decides to do, this was a criminal act. Going to a call or not, 78 in a 30 through red lights is inexcusable, badge or no badge. He was way behind his buddies and wanted to catch up.
Says the same dummbass who calls the cops and complaining why they take so long. Lmao
78mph my ass... The vehicles were siding sideways at 78 after impact. The delivery driver was shunted sideways a whole block
Other reports say he was up around 90...or reached speeds of 90...in a 30... Reckless driving.
@@birdolla4441yeah your ass 😂
Very reckless the 2 other cars were way ahead of him...That kind of speed carries critical results through a busy intersection..He should know better but many on here will say otherwise...just ridiculous
I used to live around the corner from here and went through that same light going the same direction the victim did, just to think this could be any of us. My condolences to his wife and infant sons. 💔💔💔
I lived around Troy my entire life. If you did too, then you know Hoosick Street is a deadly place to be. My mom only takes that route in the day, including driving by RPI, cutting through the park off of Oakwood. I have no idea why she takes that route. I prefer sticking straight along on Oakwood where we pass our deceased relatives. You should take Oakwood too. Some places are dangerous no matter what time of day. I have been on Oakwood at all hours and it is nice.
I treat siren lights like deer. You see one run in front of you, you watch out for others because that first one ran by and then boom, the second one jumped in front of you. Deer and emergency vehicles are rarely alone. Though seriously I am cautious because if you are speeding when they have their lights on rushing someplace, the first few cars don't care but that 3rd car trailing late often knows that they are extra and can veer off and change course to go after you. I've seen that as a passenger. No Troy cop ever gave me a ticket...yet. I don't think one of them ever pulled me over either. There was an angry red faced bald one that used to walk into the gas station when I was buying candy and tell me to get out though. Happened a few times. He was just jealous I have a full head of hair. I eat a lot of eggs.
Yup anyone of us. I think about the fact Im single and don't have a wife to go sue these officers. That's some scary stuff. They would have gotten away with it.
Born here. Uncle Sam area. Rip
⭐️Brilliant reporting. It’s heartbreaking that this hard working man was taken & left behind a wife & 2 infants. I hope they will find as much peace in life as possible.💗
I hope they sue the shit out of the city, state & the police for allowing this type of training. All of those cops were barreling through that light regardless of its color at a ridiculous rate of speed that would get a civilian arrested.
I am a paramedic and my colleagues always tell me: youre going to get there fast because you can run the red lights, not because you can floor the car down the streets. Relax. Be careful. Get there safe before not getting there at all.
he is a cop you dumbfuck lmao its not a oh i think i wanna speed home its an emergency num nuts
No you Cant run the red lights!
@@commonsenseisntcommon1776 yes, they can, if they are code, they can run red lights, generally they are supposed to at the very least slow down and make sure its safe to proceed, but they don't have to stop and wait for red lights if they have lights and/or sirens on
@@commonsenseisntcommon1776 Why do you think that an ambulance going lights and sirens cant run red lights? And in which country are you living in?
Although they can run light the paramedics are one of the worst. Don't know any who are fast. Fire trucks are the best they go as fast as they can without being too timid m paramedics will sit way too long at reds and I've seen dozens of them driving at or below the speed limit. I've caught up to paramedics in an emergency multiple times just casually driving.
Saw a car chase with a trainee behind the wheel. Training officer coached him thru every intersection, talking him thru why they slowed here and came to a full stop there and just cruised on thru some place else. He did an excellent job. So did the rookie doing the driving. This was a failure of due caution. He wasn"t going to be the first or second officer on the scene. His rash urgency was overkill. Literally.
it's complicated but, 37 years ago I was required by my job to pass an EVOC course, I still remember what was taught, I haven't
even had one traffic ticket since .
It's called due regard. Not due caution.
he was flying i mean flying way to fast cops aren and fd are suppsoed to slow a little bit while crossing they just cant fly at full speed even with lights and sirens on
@@NickyD I drove a PM rescue squad and fire engine for 18 years. Our driving laws do not exempt emergency vehicles from due regard. In an intersection you must obey the basic traffic laws. You can go through a red light but you must have control of your vehicle and assume responsibility for your actions if you do go against a red light. That cop should be treated like any other person that runs a red light and kills someone.
A life can not be taken while going to rescue another.
As a father of infant children my condolences to the victim and his family ... unacceptable 😢
What does that have to do with fuck all?
@@Look_What_You_DidThe victim the officer killed had two infant children.
why qualify your condolences, that's so weird
@@ryanwaacash He may be goofing on a lot of comments you see lately on CZcams that start with "As a black father of..." or "As an Indian woman who..."
@@ryanwaacash It isn't qualifying his condolences in the manner you are trying to make it seem. He's simply saying as a father of young children himself he knows how important it is for the father to be there and what a monumental loss this will be for the family. Through his experience of being a father, husband (presumably), and a backbone for his family, he has a greater sense of sadness/sympathy knowing how badly this man's death will likely effect their family. It's not weird at all imo.
There has to be a separate governing body when an accident or crime involves the actions of law enforcement. The fact that the mayor, city council, and police leaders could not answer a simple question regarding current emergency response policies should be a violation of "right to know information"
If the action involved 2 citizens they would have immediately recited what violations occurred.
When I was put behind the wheel of a fire truck, my company officers gave me some really good advice. We can’t be of any help to the people who called us if we cause a crash; with radios and cellphones a quiet interiors; no one sees or hears us until we are on almost top of them so don’t get frustrated and drive accordingly; we don’t stop on a dime; your second family is riding with you and their family wants them to come home, too. Basically, he was telling me to not be selfish and to think while I am driving. Two things this officer failed to do. He only thought and how fast he could get to a call, ignored everyone else, chose not to warn anyone else, and wasn’t thinking about the possibilities of what could happen at a blind intersection. He should be charged for negligent vehicular homicide. Being negligent is not a part of an officer’s job. He also violated the clearly written state statute governing how emergency vehicles (which include police vehicles) shall be operated when being driven to an emergency scene. Just because he was on duty and had been dispatched to an emergency call does not mean he was “doing his job.” Breaking the laws and policies he agreed to abide by when he became an officer is not “doing his job.”
Absolutely. Never assume that other drivers see and hear you when you are approaching a red light.
Slow down, clear left and right and then proceed.
deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepest respect for you service bruv
That's the nicest way anyone could say this law enforcement officer MURDERED THAT INNOCENT MAN! I TRULY HOPE THEY ABOLISH QUALIFIED IMMUNITY, AND PLACE THIS KILLER IN A REAL PRISON, IN GENERAL POPULATION SO THAT THE CRIMINALS HE PLACED THERE CAN "HAVE A LITTLE CHAT WITH HIM!!!!"
Exactly! He broke police policy and now the city must pay the widow MILLIONS!
Very good summation. Just because someone else is having "problems" does not give law enforcement the right to break laws and act recklessly. LEO killed someone who was completely innocent for no good reason.
The Cop was 100% at fault all departments say that an officer in a pursuit or responding to an emergency will come to a complete stop or at least slow down enough when they have a red light to make sure it is safe to proceed and when in pursuit of another car regardless if the other car runs the red at full speed the cop can not public safety is the top concern.
I was at a red light on Burdett Ave further up Hoosick at this time when one of the cops barreled down Hoosick.He too went down Hoosick at an extremely high rate of speed .He did not have his siren on and he did not slow down at the light.I did not see him until he was at the light.Thank God I had the red light or I would have gone and been a victim as well.I had an angel on my shoulder that night.What happened to this young immigrant father should not have happened.Hoosick St is a dangerous road on a good day in broad daylight.
And they'll pull you over for doing 39. Scumbags. @@m.t.426
And he didn't have his siren on, right?
@@larissabrglum3856 WELL i DON'T HAVE A CYRSTAL BALL SO YOU WILL HAVE TO ASK THE COP THAT QUESTION LMFAO
He needs to be charged and fired!
How are you going to go 80mph through a red at a busy BLIND intersection?
The same thing happened in my hometown, St. George UT. The officer was flying down the road at 80mph when 2 elderly women misjudged his speed and turned in front of him. They both died from their injuries.
Cop should be held accountable!!!
He was speeding and ran the red light!!!
He can run the light, however, he is required to slow down and stop, if necessary, for obvious safety reasons.
Shut up
@@rogersmith7808now did he slow down?
He will.. it takes time. He’ll get fired and goes to prison.
@@Dank951 Not a chance if you look at how mangled his car is he was going with speed. Stupid cop.
Well, he may not have been first to arrive at the emergency he responded to but he definitely is first to arrive at the emergency he caused.
This was 100% negligent and the cop should be charged!
Not a shooting or armed robbery, a domestic call and those idiots just HAD to race at high speeds.
domestic calls are the most frequent deadly encounters for police , dont judge what you dont know. I agree this was reckless driving for the conditions. we need to hear the 911 call and how it was dispatched to properly assess the type of response this officer had to drive this fast and not slow for intersection.
The general orders of ALL police agencies clearly stipulate that even if going "hot," that is "lights and sirens," an officer must exercise due care and prudence. This means that when approaching an intersection, YOU MUST SLOW DOWN TO CHECK for traffic. Even if you have your sirens on, many will not hear you. Obstacles, structures and buildings all distort/block sound, people are on their phones, listening to music and so forth. An officer cannot just "blow" through an intersection just because they have their emergency equipment activated. These officers either lack the maturity or are just too excited that all their training goes on vacation. No police academy in the US trains officers to drive through intersections EVER just because they have their emergency equipment turned on. The officer made a fatal error of judgment. Period.
Due regard. That's what it's called. 90 in a 30 is not. I don't care if the street was empty. This is like day one of any EVOC class. Not just the police...which is weird you only said police...
I am not an American. LOL! It is your police, you deal with them! Your ruling elites could care less about you. Your so-called "freedoms" are nothing but smoke and mirrors. Debt ridden consumerism is not freedom. Your police will continue to engage in this kind of behavior and your governments will "settle" for millions. It is your tax money. I pulled up some chase policies of some major US police departments and this was the language they used: "Due Regard," "Due Care," "Prudence," "Good judgment," blah blah...what difference does it make. Like you daily active shooters, this will only get worse for Americans. @@drwheycooler8423
Well put. That covered all the bases.
Due regard is also a subjective description.
So, it leaves them room for things like this to happen, and be excusable.
A lot of times I'll hear sirens and can't even tell from which direction they're coming. So police officers should never assume that traffic will stop in all directions.
Remember this .. If it was me or you who did this we'd be in Jail !!!
Yep, undoubtedly for life, but cops have the crooked department and judges covering for them !
It's not over yet. 78 into an obstructed intersection on a red? He's going to get charged, it's just with what that is the question.
@@drwheycooler8423 The issue is that another police department is doing the investigation. They protect each other virtually no matter what. Hard to imagine him getting any serious time, if any at all
I look both ways at green lights, even if I have the right-of-way because you never know who isn't paying attention, or if there are first responders coming. This unfortunately happens a lot.
Man. I wept as I seen a photo of a proud father and his new born twins in the back. I so sorry this happened to you and your family. You and your family are the subject of my prayers for many days, months,and years to come.
Just a quick follow up; It's been 14+ days since you commented here. I'm just curious, of these past 14 days, how many of them were spent praying (actually) for this man and family? Be honest. *GOD IS WATCHING* 😁
@@RRRIBEYEI would simply wish luck to anyone who deserves it in some way, hope for them to overcome suffering somehow. My praying style is vague but it covers a lot.
Rrrribeye or whatever your name is man shut the absolute f#$k up. Person is here giving their condolences and you come in here trying to turn it into something else.
One of the first things I was taught about driving in EMS was the rules of the road still apply even when running hot.
Cops will NEVER change their behavior(s) until they are held completely accountable for them.
Wrong
As a child growing up we are taught right and wrong, taught that there are consequences for doing wrong.
Except if you are police, they really do have a "Get out of Jail free" card
I was taught when driving look both ways before pulling out to an intersection. Clearly shows the Honda driver was texting or on the phone. Didn't pay attention. Now if the Honda paid attention he would have saw and herd the police 🚔 vehicle. Can't fix stupidity.
@@lincolnls0416
Where, exactly, does it 'clearly' show use of a cellphone by the victim? Please be specific.
@@lincolnls0416and you can’t fix your ignorance. You’re a pos for sure
So frikkin sad. Young man was just trying to support his little family. As a Dad myself this tears my heart out. My condolences to his friends and family. May he rest in peace 😢😢😢
My heart goes out to this man and his family who was senselessly taken away from them. This officer walked away from the fatal crash and will probably walk away from any wrong doing.
......with full pay.
@@VN9001 sad, but you're probably 99.9% true.
Pizza delivery drivers have one of the riskiest jobs in the world, I commend them for their service
he was found at fault
Our cops are getting way out of control , overkill reaction to a domestic incident.
Domestic violence calls can be the most dangerous and deadliest calls police go on!
Until you are the victim then the cops didn't do enough😂
Your wrong. It's not about how many cops get send to a certain call. It's about getting there in a safe manner. imho even the first two cruisers crossed the intersection with too much speed.
@@chuckhayden3046 it was certainly deadly for the innocent person that Police officer killed with his reckless and deadly behavior.
@@jaibo1313 That cop created a victim.
My Ex-father-in-law was a police officer. While in a high speed chase the suspect ran a red light at nearly 100 mph and he followed with lights and sirens approx 200 yards behind. A minivan with a mother and her 2 small children had the green light at the intersection just after the suspect drove past. She went straight across and the ex-father-in-law struck her going about 85 mph in the drivers door. It killed all 3 in the minivan. He sustained serious injuries as well and ultimately had to retire. He never got over that and I've heard him say many times he wished he had just let the suspect go, he already had his tags...
He should be in jail and that family that lost all their loved ones should've have gotten any and all of good retirement and whatever other monetary goods he had. He took the lives of 3 innocent people for what? He had the tags, there was no reason to pursue in guessing it was some misdemeanor charges to begin with. It's no different than this situation except two baby's and their mother were taken for no reason other than "contempt of cop". Look it up, it's a real thing cops feel when they feel they've been slighted or disrespected in any way.
@udluz337 I’m sorry about some of the ridiculous responses to your post. Some people don’t stop to think at all. The car went 100 mph through the intersection and the woman with two kids still fight to go to the intersection. That was a really stupid move on her part. I’m not trying to be insensitive. I know that when I’m driving and I’m on the road that I have to watch every intersection I go through. I have to be defensively driving and we’re taught this in school. If you hear sirens and lights flashing because you’re paying attention at an intersection and you see the cops are in pursuit of a vehicle slamming through the intersection, why in the world would you continue to go. Why would anyone continue to go? Because their radios up loud, they’re not paying attention to traffic. If she would’ve been there a few minutes earlier they may all have lost their lives. There’s so many different scenarios that could’ve happened with this whole situation. She could’ve pulled out in front of a speeding car that was being chased and caused a cataclysmic series of misfortunate events. Overseas everyone is responsible when there’s an accident because people are supposed to be paying attention on the road. Period. I feel sorry for her and her two children but the kind of parent I am I would not have gone to the intersection and they were many times when my son was little in the car when things like this happen and guess what - we didn’t drive to the intersection or get in the way of emergency vehicles. I am terribly sorry for the family and yes terribly sorry for your father-in-law. Which sometimes people don’t realize what are your faults or not and you hit someone else you’re there with them when they die and that is forever life-changing.
@TMSMITH-wb9jy
Your comment is ridiculous. If they're going 100 miles an hour, she may not have had time to even react to the first car let alone the cop coming through.
They were focused on the the thrill of the chase and had no regard for human life and 3 died people for that.
Not many countries make each party at fault because that's not how most collisions work. In Australia, the chase would have been called off long before it got to those speeds - for this reason. Its far too dangerous.
How could you victim shame that poor mother? I hope you're put in a position to test your backwards theories so you can learn not to be an asshole.
@TMSMITH-wb9jy Absolutely disgusting victim-blaming. I'm SURE officers are trained on proper high-speed chase protocols, especially in neighborhoods or in places where you would likely encounter other drivers. Regular driving human beings are told to be defensive drivers im their driver's ed and that's it. How many times have you seen a speeding car or an "idiot" driver, shook your head, and just continued on? Plenty of times. Every time, you could have been in danger. Take your head out of your ass. A mother and her two children DIED.
@@BeautyWithTiffy. Blaming the Victims? You're a real piece of work. Back the Blue Racist? Yeah you are.
A lot of them just put lights on no sirens rushing through intersections smh real stupid
Ambulances/fire tricks slow at intersections that they can’t fully see around, they do no one any good if they are dead or their patient. Police the same, they do not do anyone any good if they are delayed due to accident, killed or kill innocent people. Trying to be the hero while being incredibly reckless is no hero. It’s just a matter of time before incidents like this happen. Siren on wouldn’t matter, what if a person was dead, it’s their responsibility to drive responsibly even when in a hurry!
Firetrucks and ambulances put peoples safety first but not the police all they give a fuk about is catching the criminal no matter what happens!!!😳 I say fuk that and fuk the police!!!!! Rot in hell officer🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👮♂️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Every police car needs to have the ability to record when the lights and siren are in use or not in use. We shouldnt have to depend on a witness or the cop to tell us if they're being used.
they do. but it's up to the individual PD to release that video.
Yeah unfortunately that video always gets suppressed or deleted
We should have cameras on every street and corner in America so NOBODY can ever get away with anything.
@@BrandonDenny-we1rw you mean like in the UK? That's a surveillance state. Almost from your front door to your friends front door there would be video of almost every inch of the way. Sounds safe, sounds scary.
If that's congruent with the policy, then the policy needs to change! 78MPH on a city street through a red light?! Possibly with no siren?
Turning a non-life-threatening call into a life-threatening call.
I don't think that a domestic disturbance call would necessitate the officers traveling at that rate of speed and putting themselves and public at risk.
Unless of course it's your loved one that needs help, right mate?
Definitely with two other cars already minutes ahead of him.
You should see some of these domestic disturbances that happen. Not just some yelling at the wife cause the foods kinda cold. He had no business running that hot thur the intersection when he had the red light. Lights and sirens means then can run red lights but they have to do it slow and in a safe manner so crap like this doesn't happen.
Aggreed, the police if running at code should have siren and lights and use caution. A DV is not a priority #1 call
@@theamerican7080 It might be your loved one in that intersection, mate.
Such a tragedy! A wife and two small children lose their husband/father because a police officer is SUSPECTED of not using his siren. I understand law enforcement wants to get to the call ASAP but there are people also traveling on the roads that need to be considered as well!!
Doesn't matter if he is using his siren or not. He has to stop and clear a red light before proceeding.
@@stevemarquez9628 While I agree, do you know how many videos are out there where they don't do this! Yes, there are videos of those who do but the ones who don't are why things like this video happen. It's a tragedy!
I pray for justice for the family and accountability for the officer.
RIP Sabeeh! Your sons wont know how much of a humbled father or being you was!
My prayers and condolences to the victim's family. No matter the outcome, I'm sure this is the last thing anyone wanted to happen.
Did you know him ?
80 in dense urban area wow prayers for the families and his two sons
Unacceptable. Insane. Stupid! As a truck driver I think it is REDICULOUS for a cop to drive like that! Sick.
This is so tragic and i hope the family of the man who passed away gets justice. That cop gets to go home to his family and the other guy is gone. There has to be charges or a wrongful death lawsuit against that cop
The PD itself should be sued.
Lol yep that's called qualified immunity 🎉
Put cops in Smart Cars.
@@agoodnight1050
Immunity extends only to civil litigation. Same applies to Life guards at a beach. If they commit a crime though...
Unfortunately the privilege is abused.
Take his pension not tax payers money...
Cop was wrecklesa and negligent
I was a student at RPI in the 80'S and used that intersection daily. I even witnessed a nearly identical crash scenario at that light. People still flying down Hoosick, smh.
as long as there is qualified immunity. things like this will never end.
This has NOTHING to do with qualified immunity. Emergency vehicle operators are charged all the time for this kind of negligence. Police more than anyone due to the fact that there are more of them in individual cars.
okay@@drwheycooler8423
There IS NO qualified immunity for this incident. Period.
okay
@@amzarnacht6710
The vast majority of people who complain about qualified immunity have no idea what it even is.
can i just say, the nurses reactions were worthy of some type of recognition?
does the RH shoulder check, sees cop, pulls over sensibly... sees accident, calmly yet briskly gets the hell out of the way, then proceeds to pull over safely, off the road, out of the way?
She was exceptionally aware and avoided the incident like almost no one could.
She's certainly a better driver than the cop.
No its what youre supposed to do lol. You guys think doing a normal thing is worthy? Like wtf lol
When you see a car in the distance, even a police car, you don't expect it to be going 78 in a 35. That cruiser was on top of him before he knew it if he saw it at all. But you do expect high speed on the interstate. This is why crashes involving young guys and old people happen. The nurse behaved like a professional driver, rather than an Amazon driver.
Of corse the officer lives. The drunk people and the bad cops always live. Cruel world we live in. Now he gets free top of the line attorneys that get him off of all charges paid for by us and he just either gets early retirement or moves a few counties over and starts freah.
Wonderful.
In the video I see the police officer strike and the other vehicle but I must say I do not see any lights flashing after the accident as there should be. Was the siren on and he also ran the red light...
We, the people, will pay for his negligence. These law breakers will never truly be held accountable.
Those of us still alive pay with our taxes.
Alwalkawi paid with his life.
Cops must lose qualified immunity.
lol we the people lol
Drivers need to be aware of they're surroundings. I see people on a daily basis pull out into a busy intersection once the light turns green without looking beforehand. The traffic signal does not guarantee you can safety proceed only common sense after looking both ways and then verifying it is safe to proceed can.
@@lisashiela9137 Did you not watch the video at all?.. They distinctly said it was a blind intersection with a building obstructing the view, in addition to the officer NOT having the siren on and going 80mph in a 30mph zone through a red light without stopping or slowing.
The driver that was killed did nothing wrong and this could of easily happened to anyone who was unlucky enough to be in the path of that reckless police officer who I'm sure violated some department policies that day.
Immediately, a generalization. The people could make less disturbances that require police interventions, so they wouldn't have to drive like crazy. This particular event is a tragic accident, one of those instances when probabilities become reality.
Senseless tragedy 😢 Poor guy just working to provide for his family.
I have gotten in the habit of carefully looking both ways before proceeding into an intersection; and particularly when I am the first to enter it when a light turns green.
My former nephew works for that dept, I used to live in Lansingburgh, scary to think these things happen & most certainly should have been prevented. I’m sorry but cop was in the wrong.
RIP Sabeeh Alalkawi. My prayers go out to his wife and twin sons. Such a young family robbed of a parent. My heart goes out to those boys who didn’t get a chance to grow up with their father. 😢. There more than one victim out of this tragedy.
I don’t know if the laws are the same as here in Florida but here if you’re a cop, fire rescue or ems going lights and sirens regardless of the call you treat every red light as a stop 🛑 and if you cause an accident you’re at fault . Lights and siren is basically you’re asking for permission to pass it doesn’t mean you could speed way over the limit or take red lights like if it was green or drive reckless.
Very well-done video, and it makes it really clear just how negligent that cop was for driving those speeds and blowing through a red light.
78mph on a busy city street!!!! Unacceptable
I'll never forget, about 12 years ago, I was on my way back home after taking my kids to school a police suv just barely missed slamming into me at what had to at least 70 miles an hour. The officer had on no siren or lights but chasing someone that had just passed me in a broken down pick-up truck. Because there were no lights or siren, I had no clue they were coming behind! The officer passed my vehicle so fast my car shook so hard it almost made me run off the road. And what's worse, the right 2 lanes were completely clear, but they both traveled at a high speed behind me. I only imagine what could have happened had they crashed into me😓. Seeing this horrific video brings that all back to my mind. 💔
That officer was it not in Hot pursuit he murdered somebody and needs to take accountability 78 mi an hour in a 30 mph zone he should be charged with murder and reckless and failure to slow down the devintersection when he had a red light
And you need to do some English classes over.
Very sad and tragic story. Why did the mayor and police dept refuse to answer questions? Ok lets hope when a similar accident happens the other way around the other parties will also refuse to answer any questions.. What goes around comes around
NO TRANSPARENCY
Pending lawsuits prevent them from discussing things many times
Because they are going to be sued by the estate of the person who died and any statements made will be used in court
More transparency buy a liberal government, it’s been non stop since that muppet took over our country - no accountability, ever from these idiots
@@rkuchar1what you are describing is a civil suit. In a civil suit remaining silent can be used against you. Besides the question was what is your policy, unless you think your policy is criminal there is no reason to remain silent. If you think your policy is criminal why did you enact it.
At a certain speed you are literally outrunning your siren. This was careless and reckless. He showed zero regard for the public.
The police don’t collect evidence that doesn’t help their case.
They literally instructed the county pathologist NOT to collect GSR evidence during an autopsy, in my brother’s case.
When city council, and the mayor refuse comment, they should be forcefully removed from office.
What would you like for them to say? Or what would you expect to hear?
soooo, you choose force imposed upon people that are not first hand witnesses because they have not commented?
you are equally as incompetent as the officers...
@@myd0gr3x
It shows they are more interested in covering their asses than serving the public. They are also voted in by low information voters such as yourself!
They have no obligation to answer questions while an investigation is underway.
Other departments I seen take action right away.
This is on them. We understand that an emergency necessitates quick response BUT you have to do so safely. They are supposed to drive with due regard. This is where you are supposed to treat every red light intersection as a stop sign they are supposed to come to a stop or atlest a slow roll to ensure the intersection is clear before speeding through. These accidents are easy to happen because sound and people react slowly. A siren means nothing if it's approaching you at nearly 100mph the Doppler affect will make sure you don't hear it until it's abit late and most modern cars are built for comfort so they are well insulated from outside noise, reducing your chances of hearing it even further.
yeah, I've watched videos of Ar. State cops do just that, slow down at an intersection, the bad guy may get away but at least the cop slowed down. Now the local cops do not slow down.
The Doppler effect does not affect the speed at which sound travels as that is fixed, it only affects the pitch of sound by compressing the frequency as the object closes. In this case it appears as if the siren was not activated!
I've never seen police stop on an emergency, but most I've seen slow down.
So heartbreaking. Literally yesterday a state trooper was flying down a very busy road doing about 75 mph not a highway and even went on the opposite side where oncoming traffic was because there was traffic the scary part is he didn’t even slow down I was terrified 😢
Part of the first responders duty is to not become the emergency. Getting to an emergency is important but more importantly is actually making it there!!!🙄
I got pulled over for speeding a couple of years ago. I was driving UNDER the speed limit and yet I was cited.
I had a dash cam at the time of the incident. Well, while driving doing my daily routine, my dash cam would catch police and highway patrol officers speeding excessively when not responding to emergency calls.
Needless to say, my citation was dismissed on the spot when I took the dash cam video to the law enforcement agency's IAD.
Always always have a dash cam in your vehicle. Hope one day this family finds peace...
You can be cited for going to slow jackass
What the fawk does your ticket or dashcam have to do with this case? The guy wasn't getting a ticket. And if he have a dash cam what the fawk will that do? O.o
I'll take things that never happened for $100 Alex...
I agree, that was all needless to say.
The point I was making for your unintelligent responses was that if the victim had a dash cam, there would be indisputable evidence for the family to use in the lawsuit against the agency and the city.
This way, it shows from the perspective of being inside the victims car. What was recorded such as sound, video, what was caught on the video of the victim making a lawful right turn showing the intersection with this "blind spot" and the before and after of what the victim had to go through before his untimely death.
That was the purpose of mentioning what I mentioned about a dash cam. Sorry if this wasn't conveyed in a way you didn't understand...and yes, what I mentioned about being ticketed is because this agency in the video may try and pull a fast one on the victims family like they did to me citing me for speeding when in fact I wasn't.
Hope that makes sense....
They should of rendered immediate assistance to the innocent driver that was struck by the Officer's 78 Mph. Crash not wait until they checked on the officer first when he's the one who caused the crash, That's ridiculous!! 😢
Yeah but in fairness they wouldn't have known who caused it, bet my bottom dollar the other officers wouldn't drive like this one did so probably thought the car caused it. I can't blame them.
As a first responder in Commonwealth of Virginia from 67-83 we were required to take and pass an emergency driver course given by the State Police. Back then an emergency vehicle, police and or fire and rescue could exceed the posted speed limit by on 12 mph when responding to a call. But did not apply in a pursuit situation. Is there still a restriction on abusing the speed?
massive negligence from all of these officers. literal complete disregard for others. so much selfishness, and utterly no realization of the fact that 1000s of other people are also driving on the roads they are. i have NEVER once seen a officer run a red light where I have, ESPECIALLY AT 78 MILES PER HOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is exactly why law-enforcement should also follow traffic laws
like that will ever happen !
hey kiddo, do you expect them to respond code 3 to a high prio call but follow all traffic laws? you must be fucking stupid
During non emergencies absolutely. But I dont want to wait 20 minutes if I've been stabbed for a cop to wait at every red light with his lights on. However, like most departments do now, a policy of clear, at red lights or stop signs, slowing down and checking both ways to ensure people see you, before proceeding. Often with too, passenger checks right side, driver checks left, and both outloud say "clear," hence the policy name. Would have absolutely prevented this
@@merrikkplayzgamez understandable but you also got to take in consideration the public’s safety also. Just because something happens to you doesn’t mean or make it right for emergency vehicles but most of all police to be speeding that fast through red lights. One person is not worth risking hurting or killing somebody else also like in that video.
@@merrikkplayzgamez they dont have to wait they have to stop or slow down until the way is clear then proceed
this is exactly one of my biggest fears blind intersections you never know if someones either id be police or civilian vehicles driving in excess at high speeds or simply not paying attention to traffic lights.. please be safe everyone. On this planet you only get 1 life. use it wisely pls
78 in a 30 or 35. Absolutely unfathomable. His family should never have to pay any bill going forward, and his kids should get free tuition to any college they choose.
UPDATE 25 SEPTEMBER 2023: A New York State Police crash reconstruction report shows city of Troy officer, Justin Byrnes, was traveling at a speed of 88 miles per hour (in a 30mph zone) moments before he drove through a red light at a blind intersection on Hoosick Street.
The report also states that the “primary contributing factor for this collision was (the officer’s) failure to exercise due caution, while in emergency operation, when entering an intersection against a red light.”
The State Police report indicates Byrnes pressed his brake pedal about four seconds before the collision with Alalkawi’s vehicle - while traveling 88 mph. But two seconds before the crash, he began to accelerate and then suddenly pressed his brake pedal, “approximately at the time of the collision,” reducing his SUV’s speed to 65 mph as he broadsided the Honda sedan.
The airbags in Alalkawi’s vehicle deployed but did not save his life. He suffered an internal decapitation from the force of the impact. Officer Byrnes was not wearing a seatbelt but suffered only minor injuries.
The investigation could result in criminal charges being filed against the officer, Justin Byrnes, if his actions are determined to be reckless or negligent.
The TIMES UNION reported previously reported that Byrnes had violated the department’s emergency response policies and had not activated the siren in his marked 2016 Ford Explorer. Law enforcement sources said turning on his siren would have activated his SUV’s dashboard camera.
In Troy, a departmental policy requires city police officers to have their lights and sirens on during emergency responses. Byrnes was placed on administrative leave at the time, and there are not any updates to that status.
The New York State Attorney General's Office started its own investigation in March, but has not posted any updates.
Thanks for the update.
Cops complain about the general public speeding, but they're equally responsible for driving without regard to public safety themselves. I realize they're responding to calls, but to run through intersections, ESPECIALLY without sirens on is just asking for a situation like this. Just because it's night time with very little traffic, doesn't mean people aren't out and around. My condolences, and prayers for the family of Mr Alalkawi. 🙏
RIP to the young man, and that officer needs to be held accountable!!
78mph in a 30mph zone is how you kill innocent people.
What a horrible incident. I feel for his family. The officer made a mistake. Even if he had his lights and siren on, he still needs to use due caution. Since it’s a blind intersection, he would have to slow significantly to safely go through that intersection. In my years on the job I worried about things like this. I was always very careful, but not all others were. If I’m a minute later for 99.99% of the calls, it doesn’t justify the mistakes he made here. The risks to the public are simply too high.
In my home country there is a statement in Drivers Manual that "drivers of emergency vehicles must slow down before intersections and proceed only after making sure other motorists give them a right of way". I didn't see it in US Driver's Manual but I guess they have some kind of orientation or training before getting in an emergency vehicle.
gentle reminder that being a delivery driver is considerably more dangerous than serving as a police officer despite the poor pay and lack of benefits
for a civilian, this would be called criminally negligent homicide, and charged accordingly
It’s the officer’s responsibility to use due diligence and consideration for the safety of others when operating any emergency vehicle.
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I would like to add that, I wasn't at the scene so cannot say that there were no sirens, but looking at this very distressing event. No one mentioned that there were no emergency lights on the police vehicle working at the second of the crash either. My condolences go out to Sabeeh and his family all he was doing was providing for his twins. So sad.
Not defending his poor actions, but the lights clearly were on. If you look at the video around 4:12 you can see it. The main footage doesn't show the lights because the significant front end damage immediately disabled the battery and electrical, and by the time you see the vehicle the electrical is already disabled. Sirens also would have made zero difference in this particular situation. Not saying that justifies anything. Still an incredibly dangerous and irresponsible code response.
Zero justification for blowing through a red light at 78 MPH.
Rest in peace Sabeeh. My deepest condolences to your wife and twin boys. May God bless them all and grant them peace.
Ban assault cars
Fuck disciplinary actions. He’s clearly a criminal. Didn’t turn on his sirens and excepts to get through a blind intersection at a high rate of speed
So sad..Condolences to the victims family and friends. Hope everyone recovers...
Say what now? Did you even read the headline? Do you even understand what fatality means? Someone died instantly. There's no recovery for her at all... only a funeral for her. 😢😔😟
This is why I always slow right down to an almost complete stop whenever I come to any blind intersection even on green because you just don't know who could be flying through that red emergency or non emergency and its certainly not worth the risk!
R.i.p to the driver and I pray for his family.
That’s dangerous! Don’t stop on a green light.
There are lots of blind junctions in built-up areas, you will be causing immense frustration to the traffic behind you, and a high possibility of an accident
@4Kandlez I'm more referring to night time when the drunk drivers and racers are out, also I ride a motorbike so if I get hit I'm definitely dead.
@@campbellqwerty Just try to get far enough ahead of those behind you, so that you don't make them have to slow down, or risk being rear-ended, and you will probably be OK.
In our town, the police, fire and rescue have something that turns all lights red at an intersection. This town can’t afford that?
Rest in peace!!! And may God put a hedge of protection around your family.
No siren is pure recklessness on the cop
Even if he had it on in a full on city like this there is no way to know where the sound is coming from unless you can see it. The officer had no right in hell to race through a red light at 80 mph, killing this innocent man.
The tree of liberty is watered with the blood of qualified immunity.
Nice lawsuit for the family left behind
Prayers for the guys family, our condolences.
That's really sad that someone innocent had to dye cause the police can't slow down at a red intersection cause their in such a hurry to stop a dispute Rip Sabeeh to his family and friends I'm sorry for your lost and pain!❤
You no can police city without some innocent people dye.
Dye? 🤨🤨
@@speedyme200 Apparently folks don't give a shit about spelling correctly anymore. I gave up trying to correct people. Cheers!
@@BlueMax717 RED.
what color was he 'dyed'?