How To Make A Liquid Light Show - Part 2 - The Overhead Projector
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2024
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Beginner's guide to the Overhead Projector, and using it as a tool for Liquid Light Shows. Explaining some of the basics, including adding masks, creating a simple blow plate, incorporating Moires patterns, and offering some ideas for adding other projectors... Part 3 is on it's way!
Please comment! Let me know what you'd like to see in other videos.
This video is made by Steve Pavlovsky of Liquid Light Lab. LLL is a psychedelic handmade light show from NYC. - Hudba
Can't wait for part 3 in 2024
One more year 🙏🙏
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we almost there 🥹
We here
Thank you so much for taking the time to break this down and not in a condescending way but in a way that proves you are a true artist, wanting to enable others and spread the love. I am really looking forward to creating some cool visuals. thanks again!!!
Thank you!
Always a treat to watch your videos and learn some things, Steve👍🏻
The first video got me started a few months ago. Looking out for more projectors now! Thank you for this!
Thankyou for your time and commitment Steve!!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
I just got my first overhead projector as an early Mother’s Day gift and these videos have been so helpful already! Thanks so much, can’t wait to learn more!
Thanks for the part two! The first part actually became like a holy guide for me for a long time! Awesome work that you have been doing!
Awesome. Thank you so much for the names of pioneers at the end, that's incredibly helpful
Superb Steve. Thank you for demystifying this beautiful artform
Thanks Steve for your time.
My dad used to run a small outfit in London that toured Europe ("MUSHROOM"), and he's regaled me with stories of his glory days doing that, "earning a week's wages for a day's work in Amsterdam!"
Thanks for producing this, so I can see what he did preserved. I'd love to try my hand it myself one day, just for the fun of seeing what he used to do.
Nice! There's an index online many light shows in the 1960s. Please check it out if you have a chance, and perhaps add MUSHROOM to the list! The guy who runs takes submissions via email and will publish what you give him. Cheers! www.pooterland.com/lightshow_index_main.html
Yes, they were there with Optikinetics at the 14hr Technicolour Dream event.
Totally agree. Nothing digital can have that natural flowing effect the liquid and light gives...beautiful stuff...I wish they still used these at certain concerts 😅
We're still out there doing this at concerts!
Extremely helpful and comprehensive ~ thanks for sharing 👍
That's what I was looking for! Thanks a million for spreading your knowledge for free!
Thank you so much you just blew my mind!! This is exactly what I needed to see for some ideas I have!
You're welcome!
Awesome video. Thanks for sharing. All the best
Love Liquid Lights 🌈 👀 💡
Thanks for part 2!
Thanks for sharing can't wait for the shop to be restocked. I'll be waiting in line at the front door ;-). Trying to incorporate some the techniques you've shared into Snoezelen Multi-Sensory Environments for kids
Alain Bally Shop is restocked!
Muy bueno el video steve, Me viene muy bien este material! Gracias
Great simple tutorial and concepts to get a simple manual "wet show" started. Steve and LLL is the real deal and employs some of the best ideas, techniques and equip to keep this art form alive... To my knowledge, one of the first liquid light or wet shows were done in 1965 on the West Coast and in 1966 in England, obviously with Mike Leonard and The Pink Floyd taking the early shows to the stages over in Europe and then in America during their 1967 tour. The old light show pioneers were The Joshua Light Show, North Americanabis Alchemical Co., Head Lights, Diogene Lantern Works, Trans-Love up in Detroit in the US and the other odd bunch acid heads over in Europe who did the shows there back in the 60's. Of course there are many more tips and tricks to accentuate and really make this art form breathe and react like it's plugged into the music. You can use syringes, straws and multi-projector setups and layered clock crystals for individuals who have more than 2 arms. Best to have a multi-person team if you want to get serious and perform light these shows. If you want to just lay back relax, listen to music and pretend it's 1968, take the easy way out and buy an overpriced rotating wheel projector to do the work. I won't mention any names...
I’m intrigued.
Love it
Very cool. I love your work! I am a digital VJ who wants to make some liquid light VJ loops. I bought the overhead projector, oils, and glass clock face cover. Just have to figure out the best weay to film them. Was thinking about a go-pro on some table-fastened overhead arm and hope the focus works out. I saw a photo of someone who rigged camers over two liquid light overhead projection surfaces and then ran the two live feeds through their Edirol VJ mixer and out to another projector. It seems like you have a set-up for filming that looks interesting. I look forward to learning more from your videos!
Fantastic, very artistic and beautiful
Thank you!
this is really cool. thanks!
Thats the exact projector that I picked up today! for a sweet price too.
Really nice introduction, thanks al lot!
Thanks for watching!
Hey man! Love your videos. They have been very informative. I just bought my first over head projector. Could you give me some tips on how to make some dyes? Thanks!
I was trying to explain to a friend what this was like live, and they didn't get it until I showed this video. Good times
I love for the black out you suggest using a bill!!
My new pursuit, thanks for sharing
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holy shit, a new hobby!
I finally found an overhead projector to try this Art. Thank you for sharing your wisdom. Can you please tell me what kind of liquid did you use and where should I found them?
Hi Steve - years ago in the nineties my band then acquired a device that I am desperately trying to recreate. Unfortunately, someone did not appreciate how magnificent this thing was and broke it. It was homemade from an old slide projector that had a slow turning motor that turned a disc made of a thin plexiglass/glass material that the light shined through. It could be focused as the disc rotated through the the position where the slides would be. The disc had 3 or 4 layers of plastic that held some kind of oils between. The absolute brilliance of the guy that made it - I've never seen another. It was an awesome liquid light show that one could just set up and leave running for hours. Have you ever seen one like that? I can manage the projector and maybe the glass, but what are the oils someone would use for something like this? They always separated nicely and when the different layers mixed they made awesome new colors.
Psychedelic oil wheels. The oil is lamp oil which is paraffin. Colored water. Mathmos space projector. Optinetiks. Snoezelen solar. And a guy named Brian Moss(?) Makes wheels. I'm about to try making my own wheels and using dc motor to rotate them in a projector. Fingers crossed.
This ^
Ok were coming to see it liiive! (:
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge! In germany you could just go to a public school and ask them for a used OHP as they been replaced with digital projectors more and more ;)
One thing i can't really imagine is how to use this setup with OHPs for a live music show, as the projectors have to be in front of the stage and would block the view for the audience on the musicians? Or could you even use a transparent plastic sheet and do the projection from behind / the back of the stage?
i really want to get into this just as a hobby.
Check out the rest of my tutorials, and my shop! www.liquidlightshop.com
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Thank You! Could you do an episode on slide projector techniques?
DanItsColed I will! Some of the stuff I am working on now is about multiple projectors, including slides. In the mean time, I have a companion video coming out in a few of days which shows off some mechanical transparencies I use on the overhead. The transparencies are based off magic lantern slides.
Thank you so much for sharing this, it is amazing and I am so fascinated by your practice! I was wondering, as I want to use this technique for an interdisciplinary project in a theatre... how wide do you think that these overhead projectors can throw? Have you ever tried to project from a led light board as the one you used in your other video, feeding real time from the camera?
Regarding the camera and LED tablet, absolutely. Most bigger shows I do use this. You can feed it direct to a projector or video wall, or run it into a computer and add effects or mix it in with other artwork you've made... Regarding throw, it all depends on the lens and you'll have to check the throw ratio of specific model. They can all get pretty wide, if yo back far enough, but that also dims the light.
Thank you so much!!
Your work is very inspirational, thank you for sharing your tips
Very good instructional video, I'm working on a light show for my music set, I'm interested in the origins of the psychedelic pioneers such as Mike Leonard. I think I'm going to be adding a oil wheel projector too my modern LED stage rig, I'm hoping one will do it but some say you need more, I would be very interested in knowing what you think about this. Thanks in advance.
More = more better
como hace que el tinte graso rojo y el azul no se mezclen? me encanta su trabajo
Thanks so much for sharing all of this info. I printed out some patterns and photos on transparency paper. They worked great but the ink ran off of them after a bit of moisture got between them. Is there any treatment you would recommend giving them to help seal the ink? I’m thinking of lamenting them next time.
Cosmic King Yes, they can’t get wet if an inkjet is used to print them. The sheets can either be laminated, or care needs to be taken to keep the projectors dry when using them.
Hi, thanks a bunch for these videos! What are the drawbacks of using an LED plane and a camera + projector instead of the "oldschool" projector?
That's a very good question! A camera and a light box lack the warmth of an analog projector. A digital image always has some sort of a resolution limit, no matter how high it is. It is also processed in some way, and there is a slight delay in the feed. An analog projector has a resolution only limited by the optics. It's real light. Digitized stuff is made of pixels, which are a problem at times.
It might be interesting to put the projector on a subwoofer or transducer to let the sound play into it a bit.
vibration of the lamp by the subwoofer could cause the lamp to blow. Hot filaments don't like to get bumped.
Thanks so much for making these. I'm desperatly on the lookout for overhead projectors, they're so hard to find. Do you have a brand or model that you recommend that has an optimal amount of lumens?
Aaron Reeves Check out eBay. The brands don’t matter as much, as does the light output. See if you can find something that’s more than 3000 lumens.
Hello, My first projector has just arrived, but it only displays black and white. Do you have any ideas about that? There appear to be no controls to adjust which would affect the colour display.
I'm wondering what material you use to make the round mask frame? Very cool videos, thank you!
Thanks! I cut it out of heavy black poster board.
You said that a projector with 2 or 3k lumens are not that bright, how much lumens do you think that is good enough? Thanks a lot!
Woah, which equipment do you use to project the image?, it's a camera like a gopro connected to a projector?. Subscribbed, I'm gonna try this for sure.
It's all analog. It uses an overhead projector.
Hi! So I was checking your website for the ourchase of some stuff. I am curious what kind of projector could I use (instead of the overhead one) in order to be compatible with mobile phones and cameras and have a high resolution at the same time.. since most of the projectors at the end do not provide the quality described. Do you have any digital projector that you could suggest?
Hi! I actually have a guide I posted, about how to decide which projector to buy: docs.google.com/document/d/1kCm2Ht_xovN78WGRlDQCPURnvzebzHbuFxSZyWjYqMA/edit?usp=sharing
can the patterns be printed onto the overhead slides using a computer printer? Do you have a store? Thanks for keeping this art form alive
Yes! I actually have a store, where I sell preprinted Moire sets, along with glass, dyes, and other tools - www.LiquidLightShop.com
@@LiquidLightLab awesome thanks
hi! i've got a question for you, i tried googling but couldn't find anything. I've got my overhead projector and clock glass and oil dyes and it looks great on the plate, but coming through the projector there's very little color, its basically black and white. even when the dye gets really thin its still not showing. have you seen this before? is there anything i can do?
Not sure. Possibly they are not the right dyes? If not, check out my shop! www.liquidlightshop.com/
Nice video. Verry handy. By exploring this art. unfortunately you are out off stock oil dye. Trying now to make them bij my selfe..
Roel Jonker Dye is back in stock!
@@LiquidLightLab nice to hear. I will buy the liquids. You see the order soon
would you recommend liquid die for candle making? or food coloring is better?
Food coloring will work for water. But to color oil you will need a special dye. I have some for sale on my store - www.LiquidLightShop.com
Why have I never seen this in all my years?
In this and your other videos you keep calling them "Clock Glass" which might be the case that some of these come from large clocks, but most commonly these large concave glass dishes are known as "Watch Glasses" used in Chemistry, mostly. They come quite large and can be found reasonably priced: a dozen 300mm watch glasses in the $250 range. I have also seen glass dinning plates used for this as well.
In traditional liquid light shows, the glass has most often been taken from the faces of clocks (technically called 'clock domes'). Sometimes, students would go as far as to steal them from clocks in their schools... The key is to find two pieces which fit together well enough to make a good 'squish' pattern, while not getting 'stuck'. The top piece should have a curvature relationship to the bottom where it creates a good pattern, but is also curved enough from the bottom so that one can hold and control it comfortably. It's ideal to have a bottom piece larger than 300mm, otherwise the liquids may spill out.
@@LiquidLightLab
Ok, that does help a bit in finding the right glasses. Not that watch glasses won't work, but that something larger might be needed particularly for the basin plate. Got it!
Any comments on glass dinner plates, specifically decorative vintage ones? I've seen them used like as a "squash plate and ripple wheel" in one.
@@AaronAlso I'm not sure about vintage dinner plates, since there are would be many many different ones out there.... For larger basin pieces, as well as matching top pieces, I actually have a store online where I sell them - www.liquidlightshop.com/ - Finding the right pairing is quite difficult, even from clocks because there are many different shapes and sizes, so I ended up having some custom made to specifications which are ideal for liquid light shows.
Clock Crystals. I also have an original Edmund Scientific book from the 60's, they were mostly referred to as clock crystals back then.
I'm actually shopping a couple overheads now, I see a few online used for around 75-150. If I were to do it, what lumens do you recommend to get professional with this?
The brightest overheads made are around 7.5k lumens, but they use and HMI bulb and are quite difficult to find. Below that the brightest projectors are around 4k, which use an incandescent bulb and are much easier to find... However, to go professional you'd ant to use a camera / light table / digital projector set up. 10,000 lumens and up is nice
Thank you for this great, informative video! Are you on Instagram?
Jasper Hoogland I am! Very active too instagram.com/liquidlightlab
Ur shirt is creating a video moire bro!
Do you think there could be a way to get the water/oil to move to vibrations, while still using the petri dish method?
I've tried it, but vibrations tend to make the mixture cloudy up because it moves everything too much.
@@LiquidLightLab aww shame. Thanks for letting me know
Hi can you please help me where can I buy the translucent sheets you used with the black and white pattern on them the two sheets that you overlapped over each other where can I purchase those??
Andrea Hi, just search online for inkjet transparencies. There are a few sources.
Liquid Light Lab I saw in your caption you offer free downloads for them thank you!
What do you call those optical illusion b\w Transparencies
They're called Moires. You can buy some here - www.liquidlightshop.com/product/printed-moire-set-folder-waterproof
What are the transparency sheets that you used in the beginning. A Morey??
Never mind I got it. Moire
@@JamesMauberret Yup, moire patterns. I actually sell waterproof ones on my website - www.liquidlightshop.com/product/printed-moire-set-folder-waterproof
Does anyone know what kind of colored oil is best to use? Is it Paraffine oil died with candle color dye?
Mineral oil works good, and I sell special non-toxic oil based dyes on my site - liquidlightshop.com
Does anyone here have any good info about how to install a dimmer switch on overhead/slide projectors? I am new to electronics and hoping for a safe/easy method to dim my projectors for combined fields.
I don't know if this link will work, but I posted a how to in the Psychedelic Light Show Preservation Society group on facebook a few years ago. If this doesn't work, then go to the group and search 'OHP Dimmer Mod'.. Heads up though, this works with high voltage electrical. Small electronic components won't hurt you, but this can. Make sure the power is pulled before doing anything, and get a little familiar with electrical safety - facebook.com/media/set/?set=oa.844777658916691&type=3
@@LiquidLightLab I tried to join the group but I think I was rejected for some reason. The link won't work for me, but I appreciate the response!
@@zackriotpdx Try tp join it again. I am one of the admins there and will look for.
Hi, is it possible to modify an overhead projector to have higher lumen output?
Yes, it is and it has been done. Joshua Light Show did it with airplane landing lights. Other companies have used xeon lamps. It takes a fair degree of engineering and knowledge to do it though.
@@LiquidLightLab you said that 2-3K lumens was too dim, is there a commercial transparency projector that is brighter than that?
Is there an alternative to an overhead projector? I am a traveler and cannot use overhead P....need something smaller.
Yes! You can try using a camera and a light tablet, and then send that video to either a screen or a digital projector. Very portable... I have some for sale in my online store - LiquidLightShop.com - Cheers
@@LiquidLightLab thank you so so so much this is amazing! I am grateful for you! Can u ship to Thailand?
@@trenda7312 Yes! I ship all over the world.
where can I buy 360W 82V Bulbs? I am in australia
Try ebay
For some reason the colors don't show up on my projection. When I hold transparent colored plastic it shows, but not when I pour color into water its all just grey. How can I solve this problem?
Possibly you are using too much color, or a wrong mixture of oil and water. Check out my other video which may help some more.
Hi @Jacky! I'm having the same problem, were you able to fix this?
@@TheJucalobo Yes, I tried different types of water and oil color. The watercolor "ecoline" worked really well! It definitely has to do with the compisition of the color. I haven't been able to find liquid oil color that works well (or is affordable) I used olive oil and that gives a nice yellow color.
Candles paint is good..?..
No, not paint. Honestly, I would recommend the oil dyes I sell at www.LiquidLightShop.com They are very highly rated, and save people time and money experimenting with stuff that doesn't work.
Paint? Paint is opaque, no light will shine through, barely move and will overall ruin things.
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Hello, friend! I want to buy your packs but I think my overhead projector doesn't project the colors. Which one do you use? Is there one that you recommend to me? Could you help me with that? I'm attentive, thank you! 🌀🪽
Hi, thanks for commenting. Any overhead projector like the one I show here will work. As long as there is a light at the bottom, and a lens and mirror at the top, you'll be good... If you don't see any color, it's possible the dye aren't the correct ones (not all are transparent). Checkout LiquidLightShop.com, I sell highly rated ones... Feel free to ask any other questions!