Christopher Hitchens in Conversation with Salman Rushdie at the 92nd Street Y

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    Introduced by Graydon Carter at the 92nd Street Y, Jun 8, 2010, Hitchens was interviewed by Salman Rushdie.
    They spoke of Hitchens' searing memoir entitled Hitch 22 that lays bare the many contradictions in his life and affirms his conviction that all personal is also political.
    Christopher Hitchens is a contributing editor to Vanity Fair and a visiting professor of liberal studies at the New School. He is the author of numerous books, including works on Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, George Orwell, Mother Teresa, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Henry Kissinger and his #1 New York Times bestseller and National Book Award nominee, God Is Not Great.
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Komentáře • 287

  • @bookmedia67
    @bookmedia67 Před 12 lety +269

    It is chilling to know that on the very day that this event took place, Hitchens learned he had terminal cancer. Somehow he went on to do this interview with Salman Rushdie, and later the Daily Show with John Stewart, all after learning of his illness from a doctor's appointment earlier that day. Incredible strength in the face of adversity to say the least.

    • @cosmicjive4746
      @cosmicjive4746 Před rokem +11

      Is that for real? What a dude Christopher was eh?! Legend, nothing less.

    • @bookmedia67
      @bookmedia67 Před rokem +7

      @@cosmicjive4746 yes, check out the interview he gave on 60 Minutes.

    • @hayleyanna2625
      @hayleyanna2625 Před rokem +10

      I may be being foolish but I think you can tell during this interview something is off. His eyes giving it away. A truly magnificent human being.

    • @Narikeljinjira
      @Narikeljinjira Před rokem +7

      CH is on another level, RIP

    • @publius1252
      @publius1252 Před rokem +1

      Especially as he must have known that like all atheists, an eternity of nothingness awaited him.

  • @clintleffingwell8129
    @clintleffingwell8129 Před rokem +27

    "His sail was so raised as to be ballooned by any wind of bullshit that came by." - man, what a way with words Hitchens had.

  • @jpjrobot
    @jpjrobot Před rokem +92

    Sending best wishes to Rushdie family in this awful time.

  • @snehatijo8374
    @snehatijo8374 Před rokem +28

    Hoping Mr Rushdie gets well soon

  • @dennismiddlebrooks7027
    @dennismiddlebrooks7027 Před 9 lety +56

    This event took place the day that he was stricken with terminal cancer and almost died in his hotel room. He also appeared on the Daily Show the same day right after leaving the hospital. What courage!

  • @robertmctighe7233
    @robertmctighe7233 Před 9 lety +111

    In his article 'topic of cancer' Hitchens says he was diagnosed with cancer only hours before this event.

  • @curtisphillips1395
    @curtisphillips1395 Před 11 lety +169

    It's a nice change to see The Hitch in conversation with an intelligent contemporary, as opposed to all the other videos on CZcams where he debated (and defeated) the infantile babblings of theocratic nutbags

    • @OtisAdonisChad
      @OtisAdonisChad Před 3 lety +3

      If only these men could dictate and set rules for this world.

    • @duderyandude9515
      @duderyandude9515 Před 2 lety +6

      @@OtisAdonisChad I think you mean influence more people not dictate because they would be against that.

    • @ronholfly
      @ronholfly Před 2 lety +3

      Totally agree, no Garden of Eden stories that distort truth.

    • @utkarshharrymehta3301
      @utkarshharrymehta3301 Před 2 lety +4

      Oh yes. Rushdie is not only an intelligent contemporary, but a writer who Christopher respected immensely in his lifetime, and was glad to call a friend. Rushdie is a giant of modern english literature, notwithstanding the cultural influence Hitch had on American intellectualism!

    • @snake1mi
      @snake1mi Před 2 lety +1

      He won debates only against guests at TV programs. A child could refute these neo-Atheist. And seeing him with this Iranian "freedom of speech idol" isn't surprising.

  • @thatdevilguy
    @thatdevilguy Před 10 lety +165

    Hitchens, the most articulate man of my era.

    • @thatdevilguy
      @thatdevilguy Před 9 lety +7

      *****
      Hmm indoctrination is a bitch.

    • @thatdevilguy
      @thatdevilguy Před 9 lety +8

      *****
      You continue to demonstrate your stupidity knows no bounds.

    • @thatdevilguy
      @thatdevilguy Před 9 lety +6

      ***** You attempts at humour are only preceded by your pure inanity.

    • @thatdevilguy
      @thatdevilguy Před 9 lety +2

      *****
      Perhaps when you're capable of constructing a grammatically correct sentence I'll pay more attention to what you have to say. Until then I'll accept that you are just another illiterate imbecile.
      Have a nice day.

    • @ballskin
      @ballskin Před 9 lety +6

      ***** Where's your proof that he's burning in Hell?

  • @Zanzamat
    @Zanzamat Před 11 lety +43

    It was only a few hours before this meeting that Christopher was diagnosed with cancer. This goes to show what an incredible professional and character he was.

    • @ncktyu
      @ncktyu Před 6 měsíci

      yeah I read that in Mortality too

  • @Espedals
    @Espedals Před 4 lety +40

    The story about his mother, along with the knowledge that he had been diagnosed with cancer just moments prior to this event, had me in tears.
    What an intellect, what a life and what a legacy. He is dearly missed.

  • @irrationalgeographic9953
    @irrationalgeographic9953 Před 10 lety +160

    Christopher Hitchens is one of the most important philosophers of this age, and like the great philosophers of the past his importance will only be recognised now he is gone. Do not remember him only for his views on religion but his overall social commentary, a great mind, a great man, and greatly missed.

    • @mackdanny170
      @mackdanny170 Před 10 lety +2

      Well Said.

    • @Cellardoorkidd
      @Cellardoorkidd Před 10 lety +4

      I agree with you, but he was definitely recognized for his genius while he was alive :-) Millions of people followed him, his debates and his books while he was alive and understood his importance. He knew he was loved ;-)

    • @kaibe5241
      @kaibe5241 Před 10 lety +10

      He was never a philosopher. He was a journalist, historian and humanitarian.

    • @nicholasurlacher9088
      @nicholasurlacher9088 Před 10 lety +7

      Kirk Bushell He was indeed a philosopher. The degree he acquired was a PPE. Philosophy, Politics, Economics.

    • @kaibe5241
      @kaibe5241 Před 10 lety +9

      ***** his exposing of the evil witch, "Mother" Theresa, his constant criticism and eloquence of his arguments in respect to religion, his humanist nature, his carrying the torch, if you will - of the anti-theist movement, and more. He has inspired so many people...

  • @RobMacKillop1
    @RobMacKillop1 Před rokem +50

    Hang in there, Salman! Don’t let the bastards win!

  • @kirked007
    @kirked007 Před 8 lety +67

    Having just read Hitchens 'Mortality' I can only say he looks ghastly here. As others here have already said, he had been admitted to hospital as an emergency case with what sounded like Pericardial Effussion (chronic) - a very serious emergency - which was symptomatic of his aggressive Cancer. He made no mention to anyone (including Rushdie) of his grave illness and vomited discreetly twice whilst on stage. It really saddens me to see him here look so poorly but presumably folk thought he had had a late night prior to this discussion. I recommend reading MORTALITY. Hitch describes his life and thoughts from initial emergency admission and diagnosis to the end. It is highly amusing, deeply sad, horribly frustrating, anger provoking and very very Hitch. Written without self pity or hopelessness and solidly standing by his principles he held throughout his life.

    • @tommyjordan1988
      @tommyjordan1988 Před 3 lety +5

      I wept at the end of the book. Absolutely and hauntingly brilliant.

    • @Linda-pg3so
      @Linda-pg3so Před 2 lety +2

      It was a brilliant and difficult book to read. Miss Hitchens greatly. His voice and intellect are sorely needed today.

    • @snake1mi
      @snake1mi Před 2 lety

      It's just carbon mate. Why so sad?

    • @hazeshi6779
      @hazeshi6779 Před rokem

      That's like looking at the mushroom cloud and saying lol, it's just some uraniam why so sad!

  • @jdubbs530
    @jdubbs530 Před 13 lety +34

    I did a spit take when Hitch said "a sail so raised that it ballooned by any wind of BS that came by."
    classic

  • @WLDB
    @WLDB Před 12 lety +7

    Surprisingly calm. This was the day he was diagnosed.

  • @shevb
    @shevb Před 10 lety +29

    What a great man hitchens was. He is missed dearly

  • @proudatheist2042
    @proudatheist2042 Před rokem +10

    I am halfway through Joseph Anton, which was written by Salman Rushdie. It's mostly about his life after the fatwa was decreed. The fatwa was much more ghastly than what I had learned about online. Three and a half decades after the fatwa was decreed, a man who wasn't even born at the time stabbed Salman and took away sight in one of his eyes and the use of one of his arms. Christopher Hitchens said it best. We'd be better off without religion.

  • @ProggyDrummer
    @ProggyDrummer Před 12 lety +16

    DUDE! Awesome hair that guy at the beginning has.

  • @dublo7
    @dublo7 Před 12 lety +29

    Terribly sad to hear Hitchens talk about his mother.
    "Some wounds, I think, should stay fresh"

    • @rjbrinkman80
      @rjbrinkman80 Před 2 lety +1

      So sad.

    • @superduck97
      @superduck97 Před 2 lety +3

      A terrible time, when mother died.
      And terrible too, when the memories of her fade.
      I agree with Hitchens words.

    • @pommiebears
      @pommiebears Před 2 lety +2

      @@superduck97 this sentence made the hairs on my arms stand up. My grandad was my hero. I absolutely adore him. I can’t remember his voice. This pains me terribly. I have wonderful memories….but, his voice has faded.

  • @bananaear
    @bananaear Před 12 lety +9

    listening to these two talk is such a pleasure

  • @diglfargl
    @diglfargl Před 11 lety +17

    Geez Hitch... that part about him missing his mother's calls and how they may have steadied her broke my heart...

    • @purugigi
      @purugigi Před 2 lety +1

      Same here… that hit very close to home…

  • @jeffreyboniface8206
    @jeffreyboniface8206 Před rokem +4

    I wish Hitch was here to give comment on what happened with Mr Rushdie last week

  • @stevebaker4319
    @stevebaker4319 Před 2 lety +8

    I totally agree, the most articulate person I ever listened to.

  • @IsleFreeThinker1
    @IsleFreeThinker1 Před 10 lety +37

    What a beautiful captured moment.
    If only technology existed for historical debates from the likes of Twain, Carnegie, Epicurus etc... :)

  • @mikemardis
    @mikemardis Před 10 lety +21

    I understand the reference to be the fictional character Dorothea Brooke from Middlemarch by George Eliot (aka Mary Anne Evans). Dorothea was supposedly modeled on the real life nun Teresa of Ávila.

  • @raidansoma
    @raidansoma Před 14 lety +7

    I would love to see the complete conversation.
    I waited too long to buy tickets and though I went to the 92nd street Y anyway, I couldn't wait on line more than an hour. A few who waited did get lucky and the staff was very helpful and friendly.

  • @29harveydinio
    @29harveydinio Před 14 lety +7

    please post the entire conversation. Christopher Hitchens and Salman Rushdie are magnificentlt illuminating.

  • @tinytanks
    @tinytanks Před 5 lety +6

    you could tell part of the reason they were such great friends is because Salman had the ascerbic wit to roast him at the end...

  • @EyeByBrian
    @EyeByBrian Před 13 lety +8

    By 'Dorothea', I assume he slyly dodges the question asked to him by referring not to a 'real' person but to Dorothea Brooke, the heroine of the novel Middlemarch (1871-4, by George Eliot, aka Marian Evans). Hitchens has written and spoken of the novel admirably several times over the years.

  • @Gooddeeds023
    @Gooddeeds023 Před 2 lety +7

    Definitely one of my heroes ..

  • @sg72646
    @sg72646 Před 11 lety +9

    I love to listen to the great mind that is Christopher Hitchens but I always make sure I have a dictionary on hand too!

    • @billyzoom1
      @billyzoom1 Před 2 lety +4

      I was an English major and when I read his books I rarely make three pages in a row before having to look up a word. A brilliant man.

  • @GODTHESOOTHSAYER1
    @GODTHESOOTHSAYER1 Před 11 lety +6

    What a wonderful man he once was...and still is to us all...He will always be in our hearts and minds forever. Hitchens' was and will always be the secularist god and leader of free thought AND AN INSPIRATION TO US ALL!

  • @llongone2
    @llongone2 Před 3 lety +9

    Two great minds: greater than Jesus, Mohammed, Moses, Buddha, Joseph Smith, etc.

    • @yorichitsugikuni8414
      @yorichitsugikuni8414 Před 3 lety +1

      You ahould have not included budha..he himself was an atheist😅..and a great and kind man.

    • @Faseeh626
      @Faseeh626 Před 3 lety +1

      @@yorichitsugikuni8414 but the thing is he's worshipped... Those people aren't saying themselves as atheists but budhdhists.

  • @happyhappy85
    @happyhappy85 Před 12 lety +4

    His sail was so raised as to be ballooned by any wind of bullshit that came by." Awsome.

  • @AbhaySingh-wl6lb
    @AbhaySingh-wl6lb Před 2 lety +4

    You are needed hitchens very much 😔

  • @codge52
    @codge52 Před 14 lety +1

    Yes how about the whole talk??? I walked across central park from West 93rd street to find it was sold out by the time I got there...so more posted on youtube would be great!!!

  • @Mromson
    @Mromson Před 14 lety

    Upload the rest of the video, please :)

  • @jonnsmith180
    @jonnsmith180 Před 10 lety +22

    We lost an intellectual giant. RIP Hitch.

  • @user-tk1jj1cp9x
    @user-tk1jj1cp9x Před 5 dny +1

    I wrote in the question about the Arizona immigration law for this debate. The only time I ever had any kind of communication with Hitchens, who, along with Martin Amis, was very much my literary idol in those years. Had no preconceived angle particularly. Just wanted to connect ever so slightly. A bit of a moist reminiscence, I know. RIP, legend.

  • @nitesh2780
    @nitesh2780 Před 5 lety +3

    Most compassionate man

  • @curtisphillips1395
    @curtisphillips1395 Před 11 lety +6

    "I suppose that one reason I have always detested religion is its sly tendency to insinuate the idea that the universe is designed with 'you' in mind or, even worse, that there is a divine plan into which one fits whether one knows it or not. This kind of modesty is too arrogant for me". That's my personal favourite Hitch quote, but it might take up a lot of skin space should choose it as your tattoo!

  • @donreed7018
    @donreed7018 Před 11 lety

    Thanks!

  • @slye1991
    @slye1991 Před 12 lety +7

    First time I ever heard him genuinely laugh at the end of the video...

  • @candidkafka6537
    @candidkafka6537 Před 5 lety +2

    Both are my favorite warriors .

  • @joerockyholey
    @joerockyholey Před 11 lety +1

    Sir; wise comment, good name, and Henry as your pic. A well rounded CZcams member. A+

  • @erosmangr74
    @erosmangr74 Před 11 lety +10

    Upon hearing it, I thought I wanted that very remark on my tombstone one day: "my one regret is that more people should have gone to bed with me." If there is more room, I would ask for George Carlin's: "Jeez, he was here only a minute ago."

  • @5H4V3D89
    @5H4V3D89 Před 13 lety +2

    love it

  • @redshark618
    @redshark618 Před 12 lety +13

    So much social relevance in this scene... makes me want to become a writer

  • @afrircans1970
    @afrircans1970 Před 10 lety +1

    He was an amazing intellect & even though I doubt he wouldn't want to own it, he suspect he had a warm character.

  • @ThePhantomTerror
    @ThePhantomTerror Před 3 lety +2

    In a 2017 interview with Vintage Books, Salman Rushdie said he had not read Middlemarch. It's possible he didn't really understand why Christopher picked Dorothea.

  • @Leezeo
    @Leezeo Před 2 lety +1

    Love it

  • @neuronaut77
    @neuronaut77 Před 12 lety

    thanks man. lol but it sucks I found it on both websites but couldn't watch in on either because it told me the videos were unavailable in my region. I'm from Canada

  • @AgowTisro
    @AgowTisro Před 12 lety +1

    You can find them on the Daily Show website or on Vanity Fair. I did as well search rather longingly.

  • @jimmy2k4o
    @jimmy2k4o Před 11 lety +4

    "his sail was so raised as to be balloned by any wind of bullshit that came by" i've been thinking of getting a tattoo of a hitchens quote, that will be in the top 50 i have to wittle down, 'top 50?!!!' I hear you say, just remember how awesome this guy was, he's the human equivilent of pulp fiction every line from that movie can be a quote....

    • @Clemfandang0
      @Clemfandang0 Před 2 lety

      You probably already got it, but “i don’t think it will take me 10 minutes to disprove god.” Is the best.

  • @alloverdaplace2043
    @alloverdaplace2043 Před 2 lety +1

    Wow his mom story 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

  • @saveyourbacon6164
    @saveyourbacon6164 Před rokem +1

    I first heard of Christopher Hitchens a couple of days after the 2000 US election. In an interview on the Australian Broadcasting Corporation program 'Lateline', he described George W. as a spurious, hollow and contemptible candidate. Hitchens got high marks from me for this comment. As we all know, this remark foreshadowed what was to come: Bush went on to become a spurious, hollow and contemptible President.

  • @deadheadmays
    @deadheadmays Před 11 lety +2

    @rotvolo, im thinking its the dorothea from eliot's middlemarch? just a guess.

  • @nkfyen
    @nkfyen Před 11 lety

    Can anyone tell me the woman he named at the end of the program?
    Thank you

  • @apathyguy8338
    @apathyguy8338 Před rokem +1

    Hey intro guy Babylon 5 wants its hair back.

  • @gerby90
    @gerby90 Před 11 lety +7

    His mother's story is so damn sad :(

  • @pottedrodenttube
    @pottedrodenttube Před 11 lety +1

    Nice swoop Graydon!

  • @mlbockting
    @mlbockting Před 14 lety +3

    Thanks, and like my predecessors i'd love to see the complete vid.

  • @TheSRV007
    @TheSRV007 Před 12 lety +2

    @anjalielizabeth Dorothea Brooke from George Eliot's imperishable novel Middlemarch.

  • @sgee2175
    @sgee2175 Před rokem +3

    Perplexed and sad to see the tremendous support for the heinous attack on a writer on BBC Urdu. To the ignorant and extremist element, he is a hero. Is this the teaching of the so called "religion of peace?" What an oxymoron. This is a fitting example of how blind faith is not fit for today's modern societies.

  • @stratdoc
    @stratdoc Před 2 lety +1

    Why would you redact a moment of these most articulate of men!!

  • @FakePlastickTree
    @FakePlastickTree Před 9 lety +5

    Why is Jon Lovitz hosting this, and more importantly why does he have Krusty the Klown's hair?

  • @sky.the.infinite
    @sky.the.infinite Před 4 lety

    Dude, does anyone know who he’s referring to when he says Dorothea?

  • @ComradeAgopian
    @ComradeAgopian Před 14 lety

    Add my voice to the wish to see the rest of the vid .

  • @washello6573
    @washello6573 Před rokem +2

    Rest in peace dear fellow

  • @thompben
    @thompben Před 12 lety +1

    @TonyCH0
    Dorothea Brooke, the heroine of George Eliot's Middlemarch.

  • @donreed7018
    @donreed7018 Před 11 lety

    My pleasure. See if you can find the Christopher Hitchens "land mines... very difficult to get rid of" joke that he told during a Carnival-like boat cruise. I can't recall it now.

  • @RalphTGP
    @RalphTGP Před 8 lety +2

    Christopher Hitchens is such a loss to us all.

  • @hellfacebstrd
    @hellfacebstrd Před 11 lety

    what is up with the opening speaker's hair?????

  • @ravishingravi
    @ravishingravi Před 12 lety

    That thought should be comforting to you.

  • @meshgraphics
    @meshgraphics Před 14 lety +3

    This was a great talk. I want so bad to hear it again. Hell of a lot of name dropping. I want to make a reading list of the name tags. Interesting Hitch still holds Karl Marx in high regard even after his apparent turn to the right.

  • @donreed7018
    @donreed7018 Před 11 lety

    That thing on Greydon's head - didn't Napoleon used to wear one of those, the tricorne?
    How inventive! Velvet wears out relatively quickly. If you're lucky, your hair can serve as fashionable headgear for life.
    But the length - no wonder the firemen kept busting him for smoking in his VA office!
    The matches when first lit were only inches away from a Time Square re-enactment of the Hindenburg.

  • @sarfrazkhan-tf7vq
    @sarfrazkhan-tf7vq Před 9 měsíci

    I see Cristopher Hitchens now. I see his story now.

  • @TonyCH0
    @TonyCH0 Před 12 lety

    I'm with Anjali Elizabeth: WHO IS OR WAS Dorothea? Will someone please explain!

  • @rotvalo
    @rotvalo Před 11 lety

    Who is the Dorothea Hitchens mentioned?

  • @neuronaut77
    @neuronaut77 Před 12 lety

    there is no videos on youtube of him on the daily show its annoying

  • @rvdrvd1000
    @rvdrvd1000 Před 11 lety +2

    Very funny, thanks for the laugh.

  • @UtopiaMinor666
    @UtopiaMinor666 Před 12 lety +2

    I really wished hitchens had of written a fiction novel, i mean he is such an impressive writer, i could only imagine the shear imagination it could be. fiction writing is a completely different world from non-fiction/journalism.

  • @rypaz87
    @rypaz87 Před 12 lety

    @MissAvatar2011 no, the comment is generally true. If you don't accept it, then you may as well have just left it at "rest in peace". As you point out, Hitch would have a problem with it but not to the condition in which he's resting, but on the proposition that he's resting at all. You were partially correct. Just curb your solipsism and you'll be quite there!

  • @JeanySullivan
    @JeanySullivan Před 12 lety

    what a terribly rude introduction! lol. Thanks a lot for uploading it though, very interesting discussion!

  • @ErikGruber
    @ErikGruber Před 11 lety +1

    Nice hair!

  • @MrTmj1991
    @MrTmj1991 Před 11 lety +1

    Many may not know...but this was the exact day that Hitchens found out he had cancer.

  • @Jillywinkles12
    @Jillywinkles12 Před 11 lety +2

    HAHAHA did NOT expect his hair

  • @Ryan-fc9lq
    @Ryan-fc9lq Před 11 lety +1

    Hitch attended this event after finding out about his terminal cancer that morning.

  • @danieldalton6544
    @danieldalton6544 Před rokem

    Never knew about the tragedy with his mom. Sad.

  • @jolorulz
    @jolorulz Před 11 lety +1

    That's brass balls for ya. My man Hitch!

  • @reikirainbowhandspawsmore7103

    The advert before this talk is for home schooling for Muslim children & another advert I didn't take notice off.
    That's a very clever non violent counter move.
    He wrote a book of fiction, I didn't know that, I figured due to the extreme response, it was non fiction.
    Shame people didn't take 1984 a bit more seriously, as that needs to change topics from fiction to real life.
    Too busy worry about an averagely written book, not even his best work.
    An eye for an eye is gunna make the whole world blind ☮️🙏🏽☯️

  • @amaru250
    @amaru250 Před 9 lety +3

    That was a painful response to the immigration question.

    • @eashton42
      @eashton42 Před 9 lety +1

      I'm curious, what did you find so painful about it? It did seem to me to be a perfectly reasonable and well-considered argument, whether I personally agree with it or not.

    • @65TossTrap
      @65TossTrap Před 6 lety

      Hitch nailed it.

  • @taikoman
    @taikoman Před 11 lety +1

    Hitchens' bottle of Scotch is smarter than "Mister Definitely"

  • @ktuluflux
    @ktuluflux Před rokem +1

    Nice to know Jon Lovitz has had a career second wind hosting these type of things.

  • @himanshusingh-st7xi
    @himanshusingh-st7xi Před 11 měsíci

    Salman Rushdie is a true Muslim ,world need like him

  • @johannesgrell4356
    @johannesgrell4356 Před rokem

    04:45 Epic

  • @Traveler246
    @Traveler246 Před 11 lety +4

    Damn, John Lovitz has gotten pretty old.

  • @tarnicles
    @tarnicles Před 13 lety

    @ChollieD makes him look like a wizard

  • @CRUZEOO
    @CRUZEOO Před 11 lety

    THE HAIR

  • @Zakareeeeee
    @Zakareeeeee Před 11 lety

    Mos Def had to accept an invitation. Which means he thought he was on the "same level" as Christopher or Sir Salmon.