End of Support Survival Guide: Mitigate Risks and Stay Protected
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- ✴️ While using software after end of support is discouraged, sometimes it's the only option. I'll discuss the ramifications, alternatives, and what you need to do to stay safe.
✴️ Risks of using software after end of support
Using software after end of support, while sometimes necessary, poses risks like security vulnerabilities and compatibility issues because it no longer receives updates. Mitigate risks by upgrading when possible, switching to supported alternatives, maintaining strong security practices, and backing up regularly.
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0:00 Risks of using software after its end of support
0:15 End of support date
0:50 What unsupported software is
1:55 Risk #1: Security
3:00 Risk #2: Compatibility
4:20 Options
4:50 Security software
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I think it's important to run a up-to-date operating system if nothing more for security reasons. This also includes internet connected software, a browser.
If you are running an older OS, then you should minimally disconnect it from the internet. I know someone who runs games and productivity software on their Windows 7 machine and uses a Chromebook for internet access.
Proprietary software means you can't dig in and look at the code so all Windows systems and programs have "security" in the sense of "trust me bro"...
Pick your poison. Open source software means that anonymous and unvetted state actors can pose as volunteers and inject backdoors through supply chain attacks.
I have a machine that can not be upgraded to Win 11. At this stage, I'm probably going to get my techie son to reconfigure my PC into dual boot machine so I can select Linux or Win 10 during boot-up. I'll then do the sensitive things like banking on Linux and for the things that don't have a Linux equivalent, I'll use Win 10. This is what we did when Microsoft stopped supporting Win 7.
One area where you should upgrade is the OS itself, that is, if you want to go online, most browsers will not support non supported OS'. That is, they force you to use an older, outdated version of say, Firefox.Only one browser will work with a modern version is Opera, but I've had issues getting it to download, let alone work in XP. Thus, the old eMachines I was using as a media server of sorts, eventually got scrapped as of last year.
The PC was old enough to run, not just a Celeron (I had upgraded it to a P4 in 2012), but also ran IDE drives but no longer had a working copy of XP on disc and what was on the drive was not working correctly by bringing up a sign in prompt when I had no password setup.
I also had to upgrade from Vista when my old Dell Studio XPS from 2009 took a dump in 2019 by a failing hard drive, Windows 10, and now 11, so what's the big issue? I'm not as bad about change as I once was, but I still don't like change for changes sake, but don't mind if change is needed when what you'd been using simply does not work anymore.
Your next change will be to RENT Windows instead of owning your copy! A monthly fee to use your computer! YES, UPGRADE LIKE LEO SAYS!
Thanks Leo
why did you not say the other option that is switching to linux , or even chrome os flex or macos (for people that dont mint buying an mac) ?
Bit shallow really as many laptops CAN'T be upgraded to Windows 11 so if your machine is in that category you need to buy a altogether new machine. Also, if you continue to use a now defunct machine, thing like Chrome will not update (and will soon be unusable), Some good Anti virus software will also security vulnerability etc.
Did you watch the video ? The main point in it is that it is not essential, in most cases, to upgrade.
@@dudmanjohn Yes use it, for a while. Eventually most people will need to upgrade one way or another. If that one day means, New Computer, then that may be what someone must do.
@@dudmanjohn Of course I watched ALL of it. If you read my comment, you will note that although I continue to use older version operating system devices, my usage is limited on those devices because some software that I consider essential will cease to be useable.
@@standishgeezer in your situation a new PC would make sense. But I still feel Leo covered that in his video. Hope you get the replacement at a good price.
Other than forcing us to buy a new computer/software, what is the point of MS producing new windows versions? How about just adding to the existing version? I may be wrong, but it looks like all the "new features" of each iteration are only used by a tiny % of people anyway. Plus each new version has more ways to invade our privacy. Is this the price we pay when a monopoly takes control of our lives?
You are the product, not the customer.
I have no problem with Windows 11. What I resent is the requirement that I replace a machine that runs Windows 10 just fine, and would run Windows 11 just fine if certain artificial requirements weren't placed on it. I simply cannot afford to replace the hardware with another equally performing computer right now.
No one is saying you need to replace your machine. Keep running Windows 10.
But for Win 11 my perfectly good, quite high spec PC (with recently replaced power supply and new SSD) which doesn't "currently meet the minimum system requirements...". So I just throw it away? I don't think so.
No one. NO ONE. Is suggesting you should just get rid of it.
Time to Migrate to linux 🐧
I still use WIN 7, and i love it.
I wouldn't advertise that. Your pc can probably be owned if you click a single link from an attacker using open source malware. no programming skills required.
@@tossedsalad4669 I'm not worried. I have my protection. Never had a problem.
Hope you are not using Windows 7 on the internet! If it is a stand alone it is OK!😁
@wallychambe1587 Been using it for many years. No problems.
Thanks for another great video Leo. I like your delivery style and easy-to-understand dialogue
I plan on getting a Windows 11 laptop this year. Possibly on Black Friday. I may keep Windows 10 on my desktop for a while longer and may even pay for security update the first year after Oct 2025. Will it be $61 like the cost for business clients? Is there a tutorial showing seniors how to use the Windows 11 system? I guess I should look for a book entitles "Windows 11 for beginners." I bought a similar book when I got Windows 95. I still have the book.
If you need guidance CZcams videos may be more helpful than a book. Any, in my opinion, Windows 11 is not significantly different to Windows 10 for the average user.
@@dudmanjohn Thank you. That's good to know.
I have tried to install Linux on my pc as the sole OS, but never succeeded because of something to do with partitioning. I think Linux uses a different partition type than Windows recognises and that it is not recognized when I first try to boot into Linux the first time. I am inclined to want to use Linux but I need a smarter version :)
If it is a partitioning issue it's likely because your disk is formatted with MBR, and needs GPT. (I know, acronym hell.) The solution is to reformat the entire disk, erasing everything on it. (Though I *think* some third party tools will convert from MBR to GPT. Maybe someone will chime in.)
Makes me think of "The Invasion of the Body Snatchers" 1970s version, not 1950s version. We will all eventually become pod people, and it's better if you don't resist.... !
I'm more of a "resistance is futile" guy.
Not even a word about Linux? Why is that LEO?
Why doesn't a Linux genius produce a version that is generic and plug and play so that we no-nothings can just download (I would gladly pay for it) once and get it over with. I struggled with Cinnamon Mint 19 or whatever its name was and reluctantly had to go from W7 to W10 because I couldn't get printer or router to work. I have NO exotic needs, just email, buying crap online, watching videos. Just figuring out what an ISO is was a challenge for me. With over a 1000 "flavors" of Linux, why oh why has this not been done? To upgrade to W11 for W10 I am told I need a new computer. Phewy on that. No way.
@@terry_willis True that !
Because Linux is too complex for the average computer user in my audience, and many have compatibility issues they don't want to take on. I know, I know, all the Linux users say that's not true, but they're much too close to it all to see the real struggles people have. I talk about Linux occasionally (askleo.com runs on Linux), but it's just not viable for the masses. Try explaining to your grandma and you'll see what I'm up against. I have several articles on it, though. Here's just one: askleo.com/how-do-i-switch-to-linux/
@@askleonotenboom So the average user has nowhere to turn except for the big M.
@@askleonotenboom it is not that complicated to install it if you laptop/desktop dont have proprietary part that need proprietary driver to work . it is just that some hardware support and software support are lacking sadly
I have two back up computers from 2012 that have windows 10 on them, I guess I will have to disconnect them from the internet after 10 ceases!🤬🤬
No need. You can keep using it. askleo.com/windows-10-end-of-support/
good thing that i have windows 11 now i im going to miss windows 10 but happy with windows 11
When Windows 8 came out I stayed on Windows 7 until Windows 10 came out, and I updated from Windows 7 to 10. I am going to do the same thing with Windows 10, I'm going to skip Windows 11 altogether and wait for Windows 12 to come out.
Thanks Leo that was helpful 👍.
I have worked with someone who was still using DOS 3.3 because it would run software he needed. He just had to save the output to a network drive so he could work with it.
I'm impressed he's able to network the machine. That's perhaps the hardest part for something that old.
still use many software that is end of life. sync toy, Macrium reflect free, power dvd 12.... why they wrk for me. even dvd decrypter (good for ripping audio off dvd to cd; even dvd shrink, good for joining two files together on flip dvd discs to make one file. mainly use sync toy and reflect, the other are hardly, but are handy when needed.
Great info but regarding Windows 10, why didn't you mention the fact that MS will be making security updates for a couple of years using an increasing charge amount.
This would allow the user to have more time to decide to move up, especially when they are paying for security updates, say until October of 2028.
PLEASE ARTICULATE WHY YOU NEVER POSITED THIS AS AN OPTION, which gives the customer more time to make the upgrade!
THE FLOOR IS YOURS!
You're shouting
@@dudmanjohn Glad you noticed!
It's funny they'll continue to provide security updates, but only if you pay. M$ figures out a way to charge for everything.
BECAUSE THIS VIDEO IS ABOUT MORE THAN JUST WINDOWS AND THE DETAILS OF EXTENDED SUPPORT HAVE NOT BEEN LAID OUT.
@@askleonotenboom all caps...I can sense your frustration around a number of criticisms in the comments (including one from me... I believe my comments may have been trimmed... no hard feelings). I agree windows 10 is not the subject here, but since many people will be facing decisions about what to do with their Windows 10 machines, I do believe it would be productive for you to make a future video on that focusing on options other than accepting the risk of living with an no longer updated operating system. as you probably know, the windows 11 hardware requirements are not exactly firm... there are ways to work around them.
This is no good advice to be honest.
The main reason that makes me think this is, you're entirely unspecific about the type of system and it's connectivity to it's environment. You are simply telling people (who likely understand much less of the matter than you do) that they can go on using their systems.
Not a word about the difference that it makes if a system is only ever connected to a local LAN and does not go to the internet anymore or a portable system that you use to access the internet from various hotspots on various places. These two systems have entirely different security needs. You did not mention that at all.
Also, you did not give any advice about how to prepare your soon to be unsupported system for day X ... like bring it to the latest available patchlevel, check your firewall settings, think about setting the firewall to a more restricted level. Think about using an alternate, newer system for every day use, and use the outdated system only for those cases where the functionality only runs on this system.
So, there could a lot be said to the topic .... which you did not do .... that's why I think the advice given here was not good for the intended group of listeners.
Yes. This should be the top pinned comment.
Terrible advice!
Could you please back up your comment with specifics?
I aim to please.
I find the advice terrible, but also this comment ... both for the same rason. They're too unspecific.
No, pretty good advice. The only thing I'm missing is an explanation for the reasons why newer versions of applications don't run on your abandoned OS anymore. There's more to new OS versions than only the GUI. Inside there are APIs that are invisible to the user, but that can be used by applications. Those APIs are also updated all the time, and there are new APIs created all the time. Your abandoned Windows 10 won't get those. So software vendors have to stop supporting the old OS versions at some stage, because it just becomes too difficult to not be able to use the new APIs that are in the newer versions of the OS.
@askleonotenboom I find your advice appropriate and definitely fit for purpose. Thank you Leo.