Josquin: Missa Pange lingua (Tallis Scholars)

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  • čas přidán 14. 06. 2011
  • Josquin des Pres (c. 1440-1521): Missa Pange lingua
    Kyrie
    Gloria 2:57
    Credo 7:17
    Sanctus & Benedictus 14:00
    Agnus Dei 22:19
    The Tallis Scholars
    directed by Peter Phillips
    The Pérussis Altarpiece (1480)
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Komentáře • 209

  • @PM_ME_MESSIAEN_PICS
    @PM_ME_MESSIAEN_PICS Před 8 lety +219

    That cursor though

  • @jxehaynes
    @jxehaynes Před 8 lety +46

    After being a chorister for 5 years, this piece never gets old. The Gloria is amazing, and one can only describe the harmonies as heavenly.

  • @poliorkitis
    @poliorkitis Před rokem +7

    Giving me peace for the last 10 years

  • @altareggo
    @altareggo Před 4 lety +56

    Josquin deserves a place at the table containing the Top 10 musical geniuses in the Western Tradition, of at least the past millennium. He helped re-define music - he embodies all the best of the 150-year long musical period we call "The Renaissance". Pity his music is so often overlooked by a musical establishment that often seems to think that music started in the Baroque!!

    • @paylmoffat3409
      @paylmoffat3409 Před 3 lety +1

      I Agee. Especially the development of basso continuo in quite large groups of instruments. This later I feel really made Baroque the unique sound that it became.

    • @joecarr2224
      @joecarr2224 Před rokem +3

      Yes, as if Western music “came into being” with Bach-undisputed master, though he undoubtedly is. The same hold nowadays with the teaching of history. Forget everything before the Age of Discovery, and that only in order to inculcate themes of colonial depredation leading to atheistic relativism and chaotic equity.

    • @paddymeboy
      @paddymeboy Před rokem

      Not sure I agree that he rates as highly as that. And I'd say his music is late-medieval rather than Renaissance.

    • @paddymeboy
      @paddymeboy Před rokem

      @@joecarr2224 Not even equity - only, at best, equality of opportunity, which is a very different thing.

    • @maureensansburn6413
      @maureensansburn6413 Před 2 měsíci

      They don't know what they are missing do they?

  • @dealstogo2649
    @dealstogo2649 Před 9 lety +55

    Genius of polyphony.

  • @williamknight6600
    @williamknight6600 Před 7 lety +53

    This is the only recording of this masterpiece that I can stand. Many other groups 'ease' into the piece, starting very quietly and building volume (like you would do with many Palestrina pieces). This misses the opening, dissonant chords that set up the rest of the Kyrie and are themselves some of the most memorable moments in Renaissance music. I started off with the Tallis scholars version and they spoiled me for life!

    • @davidcowen3160
      @davidcowen3160 Před 4 lety +1

      Yes of course ! this was a common motif in religious art of the period.

  • @labananiere
    @labananiere Před 7 lety +8

    Une merveille dans son écrin renaissance, vive Dieu qui existe réellement, sans quoi de tels chefs d'oeuvre n'auraient jamais vu le jour.

    • @lliscia
      @lliscia Před 5 měsíci +1

      Vive surtout Josquin sans qui ce chef-d'oeuvre n'aurait tres certainement pas vu le jour 🙂

  • @Sir.Larselot
    @Sir.Larselot Před 8 lety +37

    I´m a devoted fan of this great, wonderful and beautiful voiced team. The Tallis Scholars reach a nearby perfect medieval sound with their well casted voices and harmonic members with extremely clear singing. Their records have a golden place in my collection. Always a huge pleasure for everything they thought to leave.

    • @arguspanoptes9510
      @arguspanoptes9510 Před 7 lety +1

      lassisimo . exactly my sentiments. I have an extensive collection of theirs too. bliss

    • @el7284
      @el7284 Před 3 měsíci

      Their early recordings are untouchable, in my earnest opinion.
      The modern ones are somewhat pedestrian.

  • @fredericcochin7609
    @fredericcochin7609 Před 5 lety +12

    Josquin est un geant de l'histoire de la musique! Tout amoureux de la musique devroit connaitre son oeuvre!

    • @jpanticona1400
      @jpanticona1400 Před 2 lety +1

      D´accord! salutations du Pérou. Amérique latine.

    • @heinrichwagner8179
      @heinrichwagner8179 Před 2 měsíci

      Je le découvre à l'instant grace à CZcams. Merci.

  • @brysonstevens1431
    @brysonstevens1431 Před 3 lety +16

    Most underrated composer in history, even though all the greats knew and studied his music. What makes this music so perfect is how it is oriented. It is not inwardly pointing, but solely devoted to the divine.

    • @emilianoturazzi
      @emilianoturazzi Před 3 lety +3

      most underrated? He's considered the most important composer of his age... no less important than Machault, Dufay, Palestrina or Monteverdi, talking just about pre tonal composers....

  • @tulitula
    @tulitula Před 11 lety +12

    Músicos como Josquin des Pres transmitiam através da música sua fé e a beleza que viam no mundo e nas almas. Musicians like Josquin des Pres put through music their faith and the beauty they saw in the world and the souls.

  • @Gerar2891
    @Gerar2891 Před 12 lety +8

    those were years when god does exist beautiful music thanks for uploading

  • @stephaniebangs9145
    @stephaniebangs9145 Před 7 měsíci +2

    The last part of that Agnus Dei gets me every time. Beautiful performance.

  • @DavidRainChoralComposer
    @DavidRainChoralComposer Před 2 lety +4

    One of the true masterpieces of the choral repertoire, brilliantly sung by the Tallis Scholars!

  • @JazzGuitar420
    @JazzGuitar420 Před 8 lety +74

    This piece single-handedly solidified my conversion to Christianity. I had always struggled to really know what 'Christ' was/was supposed to be, but then I heard "Et incarnatus est..." and it all became very clear.

    • @JazzGuitar420
      @JazzGuitar420 Před 8 lety +2

      +John Vogt (10:03)

    • @JazzGuitar420
      @JazzGuitar420 Před 8 lety +28

      +Festina_Lente I see what you're saying, but what I'm talking about is taking place on a different, more subtle level. "Et incarnatus est..." describes the sense in which God was/is incarnate in materiality. Here, 'Christ' doesn't have to do with the historical person of Jesus of Nazareth so much as it does with the mystical immediacy of God's presence and availability in the world and in human consciousness. Since this is a transrational mystery and not an empirical truth proposition, it actually makes sense that I experienced this for the first time while listening to music, given that music often requires the suspension of rational and egoic states of consciousness.

    • @cortster12
      @cortster12 Před 7 lety +7

      And this is why science exists. Our emotions are swayed way too easily, so we need things to bring us down to Earth so we aren't lost in fantasy.

    • @VitorSantos-dh1jr
      @VitorSantos-dh1jr Před 7 lety +2

      Of course, Festina_Lente, you are the source to say what Josquin music meant or didn't in the early Renaissance. Please, don't.

    • @IngridScottflutist
      @IngridScottflutist Před 7 lety +5

      actually, Bose, your reply isn't very smart. Science cannot even begin to explain or even deals with the spiritual. Science can merely explain matter and it cannot go beyond that. It is a mistake you and a lot of modern so-called "scientists" make all the time. Science cannot prove or disprove the existence of God, because science cannot deal with that.
      It is very clear that God does exist, just look around. His fingerprint is in His creation. It has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with emotions. yes emotions and feelings change all the time, that's why faith in God is not based on feelings, but on facts that God has shown us.
      And if today's scientists, who do not always actually go with the evidence that science shows, knows so much, let's just start talking about the origin of the universe. We all agree earth and the universe, ALL of it had a beginning. So, before it all started, there was nothing. How does something, how does matter comes from absolutely nothing? Even that silly statement contradicts all laws of nature, of physics. You cannot have something coming out of nothing, as simple as that, my friend.
      Let's go with Stephen Hawking' s theory that "gravity would have created the universe, therefore God isn't necessary..." So, how did gravity come into existence? That already contradicts all that science says. Who or what put gravity there?
      And even then, this universe and this earth are so perfectly balanced to be able to sustain life, that the smallest of changes would end life on earth. The chances of gravity and the big bang creating the delicate life that lives on earth is so small that it is pretty much non-existent. So, tell me again how I'm supposed to believe that non-sense?
      It takes much more faith to believe the non-sense modern day scientists sell people than to actually believe in an Almight God!
      This is why God gave us logic and the ability to discern so that we can be smart and not believe everything people say, even if they call themselves "scientists." I cannot blindly believe non-sense just because "a scientist said so."

  • @marganewc
    @marganewc Před 7 lety +8

    What beautiful music, sung in such sublime harmony. Absolute bliss. Thank you all you wonderful singers.

  • @elionayzuridasilveira4140

    Thank Youu!!! 💛It was the image of heaven.💛

  • @vivat_in_aeternum7721
    @vivat_in_aeternum7721 Před 6 lety +7

    J'écoute cette fabuleuse composition à genoux en priant notre Dieu Éternel et son fils, le Christ notre Seigneur

  • @Enad700
    @Enad700 Před 3 lety +2

    Certainement l'une de ses plus belles messes. Une splendeur.

  • @Cesar7351
    @Cesar7351 Před 11 lety +4

    Bendito seja Deus que deu tal talento aos homens!!!

  • @aluncooke3671
    @aluncooke3671 Před 12 lety +5

    Thanks Tallis Scholars. - Again, a pleasure to listen to you.

  • @chumegathegoat7750
    @chumegathegoat7750 Před 2 lety +8

    2:57 Gloria
    7:18 Credo
    14:22 Sanctus

  • @pedroa.cantero9449
    @pedroa.cantero9449 Před 9 lety +11

    Figura algebraica llama Trías a esta Missa Pange Lingua. Himno recreado a partir de aquel que escribiera Tomás de Aquino. «Pero su espectro, lo mismo que el de la rosa, se encarna de forma emotiva y carnal. Al final resuena por todas partes. El himno ha sido sometido a una suerte de refracción hiperprismática. Podría afirmarse que ha sido “ionizado”» (E. T. 2014: 84). Otra prueba de la genialidad de este músico enigmático.

  • @stephenmessick6619
    @stephenmessick6619 Před 11 lety +11

    God and his angels!

  • @atomaalatonal
    @atomaalatonal Před 10 lety +5

    wonderful music. the pure humanbeing speaks thru this.

  • @kaueferreira4044
    @kaueferreira4044 Před 4 lety +4

    Rezemos sete aves-maria em devoção as dores de Nossa Senhora das Dores

  • @Polomokipo23
    @Polomokipo23 Před 8 lety +6

    Josquin Des Pres
    ( Beaurevoir 1440-1521 Conde-sur-L'escaut )
    MISSA PANGE LINGUA ( TALLIS SCHOLARS ) Eternel grandiose une pure merveille merci CZcams.

    • @labananiere
      @labananiere Před 7 lety +1

      Oui sans CZcams cette sainte musique serait restée au placard....

  • @theresaagyeiwah7964
    @theresaagyeiwah7964 Před 10 lety +11

    I love music

  • @nostalgicmodernist1399
    @nostalgicmodernist1399 Před 5 lety +9

    I love how the Tallis Scholars really milk the details of this piece. Occasionally their recordings can sound too bright and slick, undifferentiated -- but here, they take time to wonderfully develop each of the striking little "events" in the counterpoint, and it's a joy to listen to.

  • @FranciscoOlivares1973
    @FranciscoOlivares1973 Před 10 lety +7

    gloria in excelsis deo, et in terra pax hominibus bonae voluntatis//

  • @mariogonzales1333
    @mariogonzales1333 Před rokem +1

    Beautiful, enjoying what a master peace of Gloria's music👍...

  • @arguspanoptes9510
    @arguspanoptes9510 Před 7 lety +4

    I have this exact same recording and the the music never fails to move me

  • @gautierluquin9047
    @gautierluquin9047 Před 8 lety +8

    Magnifique !!

  • @PhoebeSoprano
    @PhoebeSoprano Před 8 lety +6

    Thanks for posting, Ed!

  • @leoncohen2712
    @leoncohen2712 Před 3 lety +1

    Superb rendition. The best I have ever heard of this piece. I love this kind of music and the Tallis Scholars are among the very best at performing it.

  • @Polomokipo23
    @Polomokipo23 Před 9 lety +10

    Eternel grandiose la musique de la renaissance Dufay Browne Bird Obrecht Ockeghem Dowland Gabrieli Gesualdo Des Prez Lassus Marenzio Palestrina Rore Tallis Tinctoris et tant d autres merci you tube.

  • @lukeminton-schwarzmanschol1943

    ¡QUE HERMOSA ES ESTA MÚSICA! ¡ME ENCANTA!

  • @Steinwaytoday
    @Steinwaytoday Před 5 lety +2

    This interpretation of such a masterpiece is on a league of its own. The thought they put into every measure is really incredible, and it makes it feel that much more special.

  • @homayounibrandon
    @homayounibrandon Před 8 lety +5

    Very beautiful.

  • @SilasCoelho
    @SilasCoelho Před 10 lety +10

    God speaking through their voices, amazing!

  • @MsGreenthings
    @MsGreenthings Před 11 lety +4

    absolutely adorable
    thank you very much for sharing!

  • @godnotsomighty
    @godnotsomighty Před 3 lety

    Listened one time and simply had to buy a Flac download that very night..... This is music to cry for...

  • @carlosrodriguez1562
    @carlosrodriguez1562 Před 3 lety +1

    Beautiful rendition!!! On Desprez' 500 years!

  • @kobachorr
    @kobachorr Před 6 lety +1

    The sublime Josquin fulfilled supreme!

  • @PrinceJackDaniels
    @PrinceJackDaniels Před 9 lety +8

    I needed this for my finals and it really touched me
    just wow! thank you for uploading

  • @marcocatria8829
    @marcocatria8829 Před 3 lety

    They are drones, j am speechless!!!!. Thank you and ciao from Italy.

  • @pacogarcia6519
    @pacogarcia6519 Před 3 měsíci

    Divina interpretación.

  • @sternaauparadis
    @sternaauparadis Před 11 lety +8

    je suis sans voix! Merci!

  • @pierrecordier8415
    @pierrecordier8415 Před 4 lety +4

    Divine Kyrie...

  • @arrigolupo3690
    @arrigolupo3690 Před 2 lety +3

    Josquin is presently still neglected if we consider that his importance is comparable to that of Bach, Mozart or Beethoven. Surely he's more known than the other 15th and 16th century composers, with the exception of Palestrina. This Mass is an absolute masterpiece.

  • @ministriles
    @ministriles Před 10 lety +4

    Increible!!!!!!!

  • @dayannav9475
    @dayannav9475 Před 7 lety +2

    just beautifull

  • @hectorcontreras9058
    @hectorcontreras9058 Před 7 lety +3

    simplemente hermoso.

  • @jakobzechlin6124
    @jakobzechlin6124 Před 6 lety +1

    that music is amazing. sincerely yours, agnus dei.

  • @rogermoore27
    @rogermoore27 Před 9 lety +2

    beautiful music

  • @isammolina4842
    @isammolina4842 Před 6 lety +3

    Suprema belleza

  • @ninojuve1795
    @ninojuve1795 Před 11 lety +2

    Great job!

  • @geiannicaballero510
    @geiannicaballero510 Před 9 měsíci

    Omg I thought this was taken down. I love this missa so much 🥲

  • @PhD-ch9ku
    @PhD-ch9ku Před rokem

    Wunderbar!

  • @ninojuve1795
    @ninojuve1795 Před 11 lety +1

    Grande esecuzione!

  • @almagrata
    @almagrata Před 2 lety

    👁️🥀👄I loved this Mass by Josquin, only the good Lord to polish so much talent! 🌞🌟🌜👼🎶🎹🎻😭😀😀👋👋👋

  • @philliplow5379
    @philliplow5379 Před 10 lety +39

    Heard this stoned on acid in the Duke Chapel 1967 - magnificent! Those were the days...

    • @yesyes9859
      @yesyes9859 Před 6 lety +2

      Phillip Low u sir, are a badass ;-)

    • @davidrmoran
      @davidrmoran Před 6 lety

      well now that's how some solidify the conversion to xianity

    • @paralysisbyanalysis2287
      @paralysisbyanalysis2287 Před 6 lety

      Ironic. I first learned to love and hear the full extent of this piece's melodic texture and emotion, while on shrooms. As silly as it may sound, there's something to be said about psychedelics, and recognizing the Divine.

    • @1jesus2music3duke
      @1jesus2music3duke Před 5 lety

      Love this comment so much. Been a Duke student for a long time and have contributed to a lot of polyphonic music inside its walls. Sometimes stoned on another substance though.

  • @1jesus2music3duke
    @1jesus2music3duke Před 5 lety +15

    If you love Bach, then give thanks for Josquin. He was Luther's favorite composer and without Luther's love of Josquin, no Bach.

  • @glorialabella6361
    @glorialabella6361 Před 2 lety

    The Gloria is glorious. 🎵🎶🎵

  • @michelchaman6495
    @michelchaman6495 Před 3 lety +1

    If anyone's looking for the second subsection of Gloria the "Qui Tollis" it starts round 5:05

  • @AloysiusEmanuel-.-
    @AloysiusEmanuel-.- Před rokem

    Divino!

  • @justynad5029
    @justynad5029 Před rokem

    Amazing ❤

  • @RustyShacklification
    @RustyShacklification Před 11 lety +4

    beautiful :)

  • @poliorkitis
    @poliorkitis Před 6 lety +1

    Pure joy

  • @pascualodoghertycarame40

    El gran Josquin y Tallis Scholars. Solo puede salir bien

  • @stjacquesremi
    @stjacquesremi Před 5 lety +4

    It's beautiful. The only thing that bothers me is that they didn't sing the fictas at the cadences.

  • @TheZurul
    @TheZurul Před 11 lety +2

    that's because music IS heaven

    • @tbam994
      @tbam994 Před 3 lety

      Wonderful music created on earth by wonderful earthly beings...why inject nonsense into it?

  • @rina-sz6yj
    @rina-sz6yj Před 2 lety +1

    ミサ曲「パンジェ・リングァ」
    ジョスカン・デプレ
    フランドル

  • @velthur1976
    @velthur1976 Před 10 lety +67

    Does the black arrow belong to the painting? :-)

    • @helenlauer9465
      @helenlauer9465 Před 9 lety

      Velthur Tognoni no, i'm certain it does not. as are you. Is that supposed to embarrass or reprimand the person kind enough to post the beautiful painting? Why?

    • @velthur1976
      @velthur1976 Před 9 lety +25

      Helen Lauer I know there wasn't embarrass or reprimand goal in my obvious joke. I heard in these days they sell the sense of humor off in some stores. Think about it :·)

    • @leodiscenza8543
      @leodiscenza8543 Před 8 lety +1

      +Velthur Tognoni But why does it look like part of the painting??? What happened there?

    • @juliangilmartin5425
      @juliangilmartin5425 Před 8 lety +8

      +Lizzie Discenza its called a screenshot bruh

    • @cemartin
      @cemartin Před 8 lety +15

      of course, this is an antique screenshot ... and in 15th century white colour was just too expensive for simple arrows ...

  • @sebastiangryziniski8612

    zarombiste!!!!!

  • @peplpa3108
    @peplpa3108 Před 5 lety +1

    Un música é a arte de xogar coas cordas bucais e sendo boa achecarnos o deleite dao sentido do oido . A relixióm é um complemento de lugar que sufre a xente a nível persoal ou mais bem colectivo, por gregario .

  • @medievalmusiclover
    @medievalmusiclover Před 10 lety +17

    God Bless Catholic Church!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @medievalmusiclover
      @medievalmusiclover Před 7 lety

      Good God

    • @arguspanoptes9510
      @arguspanoptes9510 Před 7 lety +1

      Hesus for shame. Trolling doesn't do you justice. Not everyone is Catholic . God bless you and allow you better judgement

    • @pierrefilippo3704
      @pierrefilippo3704 Před 6 lety +5

      Only Catholic Church has right Sacraments, Eucharist, Confession... only Catholic rites allow this kind of solemnity and beauty... God bless Catholic Church and Traditional Mass!

    • @jonathantardifmusicalrefle3661
      @jonathantardifmusicalrefle3661 Před 2 lety

      @@pierrefilippo3704 only Catholic Church are misogynists towards women, don't allow them to become priests, are bigoted fuckers when it comes to gay marriage and those who identify as transgender. To say nothing of their amoral pedophiles abusing and molesting children for decades, only to have their asses protected by you Catholic Church who tried and failed to cover up the scandal. While I have and respect many Catholic friends, I hold the Church in contempt for its numerous failings and hypocrisies

  • @leandre1808
    @leandre1808 Před 10 lety +6

    Kyriee Ellison!

    • @klop4228
      @klop4228 Před 4 lety

      'Lord, have mercy'? Is something wrong?

  • @TheEarch77
    @TheEarch77 Před 3 lety +1

    Cant believe i found out about this type of music because im a blood descendant of to Josquin

  • @Ruahn
    @Ruahn Před 4 lety +2

    Hoje eu tive um sonho revelador.
    Sonhei que eu dizia para uns amigos meus, que eles deveriam acreditar no mal, caso contrário nunca acreditariam de verdade em Deus.

  • @mmess8401
    @mmess8401 Před rokem

    1514 - "The Missa Pange lingua is generally considered a late mass - probably Josquin's last - and one of his best: it brings together much that he had tested and perfected in earlier mass settings. At the same time, the compositional language points ahead to the mid-16th century. In this work, the main focus is definitively and unreservedly on the art of imitation, treating all voices as equals. The way Josquin distributes the six short phrases of the underlying chorale melody (originally written by Thomas Aquinas for the Feast of Corpus Christi) in such an uncomplicated and balanced way among all four voices had far-reaching implications for Renaissance music throughout Europe."

  • @RueyYen
    @RueyYen Před 6 lety +1

    Beneditus (19:09)

  • @theren8311
    @theren8311 Před 7 lety +1

    Encarta 2004 brought me here. Hello future people!

  • @AdrianoAnderson
    @AdrianoAnderson Před 11 lety +3

    Amazing! Credits of the art cover, please! \o

  • @EmanueleTorrenteOfficial

    Nice..

  • @jeredhunter8733
    @jeredhunter8733 Před 11 lety +3

    It would be a little more exact to say that this recording sounds like something you hope to find in Heaven. But yes, I definitely understand what you're trying to say!

  • @johntestelin4051
    @johntestelin4051 Před 4 lety +1

    My preference goes to the interpretation of Spandauer Kantorei directed by Martin Beherman (record done prior 1970, date unknown). Respiration and comtemplation of the choir are making you just closing your eyes and listen. Am I one of the rare ones still owning this record?

  • @TheDerrickoh
    @TheDerrickoh Před 10 lety +3

    +Belén Sopranoboísta la música existe gracias a la humanidad, claro :)

  • @etiennemacq
    @etiennemacq Před 4 lety +1

    This picture was painted by a French artist, Nicolas Froment.

  • @ivoryyyyyy293
    @ivoryyyyyy293 Před 6 lety +1

    all hail the magic cursor... may its dark powers of evil rein down upon its enemies..

  • @Cowswithguns1
    @Cowswithguns1 Před 3 měsíci

    Anyone know which edition of this piece they are using? Looking for the right pdf

  • @TheSinisterScript666
    @TheSinisterScript666 Před 5 lety +2

    2:57

  • @patrociniumXP14
    @patrociniumXP14 Před 3 lety

    κύριος „Herr“ und ἐλεέω „sich erbarmen“. Herr, erbarme dich! Christe eleison (Χριστὲ ἐλέησον) Christus, erbarme dich!

  • @Lardenoy
    @Lardenoy Před 3 lety

    En arrière-plan du retable (XVème s) illustrant cette page : la ville d'Avignon, le Rhône et le Palais des Papes quasi flambant neuf...

  • @TheSinisterScript666
    @TheSinisterScript666 Před 5 lety +1

    0:00

  • @thetudortimes9155
    @thetudortimes9155 Před 6 lety +1

    24:00

  • @buttclef
    @buttclef Před 9 měsíci

    Is that a mouse cursor pointing to the saint....?

    • @buttclef
      @buttclef Před 9 měsíci +1

      And yes of course "what beautiful music".

  • @medievalhistory7942
    @medievalhistory7942 Před 6 lety +1

    20:18

  • @MegaCirse
    @MegaCirse Před 3 lety

    De la musique qui respire le silence et une grandeur que les temps modernes ne connaissent plus, des temps sans sources, sans vérité, sans hiérarchie, sans futur.. Par ailleurs, cette musique somptueuse montre que même dans un égout mental comme le catholicisme, des plantes étonnantes et magnifiques peuvent surgir !