Hela isn't Hela - Thor Ragnarok
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- Thor: Ragnarok was delightful and it was anchored by a truly fun and menacing villain in Cate Blanchett's Hela. While it's clear that Hela is based heavily on her comic counterpart, there are a lot of big changes to the character that you may have missed. In this video, I take a look at six comic characters and one broader concept that in one way or another influenced the MCU's take on Hela.
SPOILERS for Thor: Ragnarok and to a much smaller extent, other movies in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
Special thanks to CZcamsrs MCU Scenes and Janootz for clueing me into the Gorr connection.
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Waititi mentioned in a podcast that Odin was 'carrying' Hela with him wherever he went. She was imprisoned 'around' him, and sapping his strength regularly, contributing to his death. So in some alternate dimension. Apparently he did this after she broke out of her first prison, and he ordered the Valkyries in to weaken her so he could trap her within himself this time. Which I think is pretty cool and has nice metaphorical ideas.
This makes perfect sense. I've never seen that interview but I like that explanation a lot.
If you could find that podcast interview please link it because it really is interesting.
See man, that's my problem with Thor 3: lots of cool ideas that got absolute zero amount of development. Why wasn't that apparent in the film? Why do you need to hear interviews to learn that about what was actually going on?
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You never know, maybe they did film scenes that would explain all this but were cut because of lenght, production bullsh*t and other stuff. But I do agree with you
"Odin has a load of family members coming out of the wood work he's like a lottery winner" Actually lol'd A+
That part was REALLY funny. XD
Cul looks like Danny Trejo
lmao, I didn't get it until I read it here. That's actually hilarious.
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In Norse mythology Hel(a) is Loki's daughter so it makes sense for her to be Loki's offspring in the comics.
A scene from the movie at the end was taken right out of the comic with Gorr. Thor's about to die and Gorr asks his what is he the god of? Thor whispers thunder and a giant lightning bolt hits Gorr and save Thor.
"Odin has a lot of secret family members coming out of the woodwork. Hes like a lottery winner."
😂😂😂😂 I'm dead
The worst kind of lottery.
@@jackkraken3888 The joke isnt the familly member coming back, the joke is that odin got rich and people he didnt know claim to be part of his family
God's get around ask zeus
What was Hela doing in prison? Hela was refining her killer eye makeup
thats what I fell in love with. so good job, no time wasted.
Dont forget Sharpening her Horns
Preposterous my friend think I’m gonna end up looking like hela when I eventually get some makeup but I’m really gonna look like the winter soldier
lol. When she first appeared on screen I said "more like 'hella sexy!' ". Gf was not impressed :D
...and don't neglect to notice that bitchin' manicure...
Hela was the daughter of Loki, if I remember my Norse Mythology right, as you mentioned, not Odin's. But Cate Blanchett did a spectacular job, and I'm not complaining.
Well, her norse name is 'Hel' and it's her name the word 'Hell' is derived from. But yes, she is the daughter of Loki in the mythology. It was Thor who cast her out to the underworld (Niflheim) where her kingdom is located.
She is the sister of the Fenris Wolf and the great serpent Jormungandr.
Her kingdom was synonymous with her name (Helheim means 'The home of Hel' but it was common to just say they went to Hel when they died) and it's where 'common people' would go when they died, only people who died in battle would go to Valhalla (Carried from the battlefield by the Valkyries).
It's worth to note that Hel wasn't necessarily a bad place to go to pre-christianity, but it definately wasn't as classy as Asgard.
Cate Blanchett as Hela was the best thing about this movie. :)
warriors could also go to folkvangr
Yh loki has 3 children: fenris wolf, the midguard serpent (wraps round the earth and bites its own tail to maintain order) and then hel who is meant to be half dead half alive and the "ruler of the underworld" kind of character. So hela takes very little inspiration from hel at all other than the death part. Not complaining tho as Blanchett did a great job with her and its really a huge shame marvel are god awful at villains. Hela could of easily stayed around for a bit and went to war with Thanos??? Maybe just a thought
Ben Mackay Loki actually has 6 children in the mythology. Sleipnir, Hel, Jörmungandr (the midgard serpent), Fenrir, Vali and Narfi.
Vali and Narfi got gutted and where used to tie up loki as punishment.
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Thanks!
Sammee. It's clear and to the point and has its own distinctiveness that doesn't need a logo for you to know who it's from
Thor: love and thunder
Amora tries to marry Thor a lot
HOLD UP
I know, she's like an evil Lois Lane in that regard.
"And ruins Spider-Man comics-" That's true😂
i came looking for this comment....i was not disappointed
Best part of the video.
Didn’t get the reference
@Jay F. here yah go... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_One_More_Day
@Jay F. Keep it that way.
In actual mythology hel is the daughter of Loki so the comics make sense xo
To be fair Loki has weird children in the mythology.
@@thomasaktor6867 well lokis children are as weird as loki himselfe I guess.
I feel like evertything bad comes from lokis side of the family.
Thomas Aktor yeah like when he gave birth to an 8 legged horse
@SørenCast Z I think it's a face, kinda like XD
In the comics she's the daughter of a previous Loki, because Ragnarok.
Hela was the daughter of Loki in the myths too. she was called Hel, looked a lot like Two-Face. one side was deathly pale and described as beautiful, while the other side looked like a decaying zombie. she was one of three monstorous children of Loki: Hel, Fenris, a wolf that had to be bound with a magical rope, and Jörmungandr, a serpent that wrapped around the world, causing earthquakes.
You forgot Sleipnir
I liked Hela in Ragnarok, the problem though is what I think it's always been with Marvel villains, they die too soon. Most people say Loki is the best villain, I think it's an unfair comparison because he's been around for several films. I can't think of another main villain (Thanos hasn't properly done anything yet) that has lasted longer than one Marvel film. And Loki's more of an anti-hero now so he doesn't really count anymore. Marvel's heroes tend to be very likable, well-developed characters because they get multiple films to develop through. Pretty much all Marvel villains get one film and then they're offed. There have been comicbook movie villains that have made an impact in just one film of course, (Doc Ock, Heath Ledger's Joker) but they were already iconic before their films came out and in the Joker's case Heath Ledger stole the movie, and sort of overshadowed the titular character.
I think Marvel really needs to give us some running villains that can have longer, better-developed rivalries with the heroes so that when the villains get beaten it makes for a more satisfying climactic moments.
That comic was so good
Hela was boring. Also suffers from the Marvel villain problem, where the main motivation goes no way beyond "I want to destroy/take over [insert location X]."
Yeah, kind of a missed opportunity to create an MCU Masters of Evil adaptation.
I want Hela back. She deserves more screentime than 15 minutes in a movie for 2 hours
We havent seen her full potential.
Isn't vulture coming back with the sinister 6 to fight spidey???
All these things that inspired Thor Ragnarock
And the story of Ragnarock was not one of them
Yes, i found that hillarios. Becose i am a fan of the norse myths. Even tho (sorry for mispells) i like marvel faaaar more.
"Ragnarock" ... The word is literally in the title how could you...
I mean that the name is Thor ragnarok but the prophecy and events are faar more difrent from the norse myth version.
@@zilaalapsablue7228 wait are you talking to me now or? Cause I'm commenting about the fact that the first person couldn't even spell rangarok right while it was right in front of them
Melon lord oh, i was talking to you. And sorry i missunderstood
With Gorr confirmed for Thor 4, I wonder what his powerset is going to be if they used his main ability for Hela.
Probably be reversed, Gorr might used combination of Magic and Physical strength.
Answer: they gutted him
They wasted him big time
His power set was being a bad villain and not killing gods.
Man I’m sorry to say but gorr was wasted 😔
Im Swedish, norse mythology is the bedtime stories I grew up with and what happened here is obviously that they mixed the MC character with the actual mythological Hel from norse religion.
Hel, along Fenrir, Jormungandr and depending on what Edda you read Sleipnir are all indeed Lokis children (and the children of the giantess Angrbođa) theyre also known as *The fang of chaos, The world eater* and *The sky strider,* Hel being the only one lacking a definitive title.
Not that she need one, she is the ruler of Hel (yes, the underworld bears the same name) which is placed *in* Niffleheim and guarded by Garm, a giant frost wolf (in some versions Garm and Hatii are the sons of Fenrir and are chasing the sun and the moon across the skies turning night into day and vice versa.)
Hel is where "bad people" go or perhaps rather where cowards go as in Norse mythology only people who dies a warrior death goes to Valhall.
Not even *all* who do die a warriors death may go.
The Valkyries sweeps the fields after battle, selects only the bravest warriors and guide their souls to Valhall.
Hope this cleared some stutf up
*"theyre also known as The fang of chaos, The world eater and The sky strider"*
Oh wow, now those are some titles.
@@wakkaseta8351
Theyre actually more descriptive than titles as in the lore the prophecy says when Fenrir breaks free and wreaks chaos upon the world and Jormungandr releases its tail and rises from the sea, Ragnarök (basically Norse mythologys Armageddon) will follow and Thor will fight Fenrir untill they both perrish..
Sleipnir is Odins eight-legged steed which he quite literally rides across the skies.
But yea, they do sound sort of ominous...
A giant snake that wraps itself all the way around the world and bites its own tale while being dormant being refered to as "the world eater" is a Snake I wouldnt want to wake up. xD
@@F1rstWorldNomaD
Still though, these epithets wouldn't feel out of place in something like a video game.
Isn't it Fenris in mythology rather than Fenrir?
So...today almost no one would go to walhalla.
for number 3 the reason Hela was "trapped" and too weak before Odin died is because Odin banished her from Asgard. As Heimdal said in Thor: Ragnarok, "She's asgarding, she draws her power the closer she is to home". This means she could very well have been ruling Niflheim but knew she wasn't strong enough to overthrow Odin and his sons.
Wait. Cul, aka "the serpent" was cast out by Odin and imprisoned underwater? Hmm, can someone say Jörmungandr?
No actually they are two different beings
@@fanuelnduna8191 yes I know, I was making a joke because it lined up a bit too nicely I felt.
It's like they wanted to use em but were like what if we just make a character similar or mirroring it?? Idk I can never get into Thor comics because of all the butchery of the Norse mythology to be served at the food stall presented by Marvel. Big fan of the movies and franchise as a whole, but never clicked when it came to Thor
@@TheBeastr Read Simonson's Thor, in his whole run he was trying to make Thor and Asgard more like the myths.
You know what? If you throw all of that together, her role in the comics and her actions in the movie, Hela is a serious version of Hades from Disney´s Hercules xD
4Curses oh my. *Mind blown*
Greek mythology*
Idk what you mean by serious, she seems to be having fun throughout the movie.
@@samuraigvizz3510 Yeah, that was where Hades came from, but $Curses specifically referring to the Disney"s Hercules movie's version of Hades -- a sorta goofball
Samurai GvizZ *Disney’s Hercules. Hades acts more like Kronos in the movie when really he should just be a chilled out dude who just wants to hang out with his Wife and Dog(s)
Thank you for adding Gigantic Tim Burton Chandelier to my vocabulary
"...already has a Mephisto, who... ruins Spider-Man comics." **subscribed**
Nice video. Really interesting. MCU is an actual alternate universe in Marvel Comics so that's why it's not going to be the same with 616
That's kind of obvious MCU is a seaparate universe and has got Earth-199999
I didn’t know that
0:17 “Movie Spidey is more or less the same as comic Spidey.”
The MCU Peter Parker incorporated many traits of Miles Morales, and Ned Leeds is basically Ganke Lee in all but name.
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"and she just isn't hela..... and that's okay!"
I Believe Hela was banished much like Thor was in Thor 1. However unlike Thor she didnt actualy seek any kind of redemption. It would explain why she couldnt come back until Odin died since that would break the banishment spell that would seal her Powers much like how Thor's Powers were sealed in Mjölner.
Interesting callback.
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Well done. The sword generating power was a bit odd at first, but I grew to like it and I think it was more visually interesting than Hela's "Hand of Glory" death touch would have been.
With gorr being the main villain in love and thunder I’m curious to see if they’re gonna use his same powers with him being so similar to hela
On the plus side, goth Cate Blanchett is probably the outright sexiest woman in the entire MCU. So in my eyes that makes up for any other changes :D
Too sexy for this world, why’d she have to go?
Ridiculously fine. Oops, I meant Hella Fine!
@@HectorAgostoOne you know where the door is?
Hela doesn't just break Mjolnir, she used to wield it. Check out the art work on the ceiling when she breaks the first layer. There is a picture of her holding up Mjolnir.
I'm actually very disappointed that they admit to using Gorr as an influence for Hela :( Gorrs two comic series "God Butcher" & "God Bomb" are 2 of my favorite Thor comics of all time, and he's by far the most original and relatable villain on the list, he definitely deserved to have the spotlight in his own movie... But now we'll probably never get that... They should have made Hela wield Mjolnir against Thor, instead of the shadow swords... Having her break it was a cool shot i guess, but as you said, she used to use it.
I think the point that the movie was trying to make is that Mjolnir in the MCU is unliftable by anyone who is not worthy, Hela definitely is not worthy the point they made in her stopping it and breaking it was how incredibly powerful she is, she is probabaly the single most powerful character we have seen active so far in the MCU, Ego and Thanos being the possible exceptions
Yet Hela has lifted the hammer as the art work showed. So at some point she was worthy.
I think before Thor 1 anyone could have lift it. Odin only added the enchantment when he banished Thor in the first movie.
Sorita hin Good point. Hela stopping the hammer in mid air and it appeared she was stopping it from returning to thor,showed alot of power.
All I need is for Angela to show up in Thor 4 and just have Thor be freaking out, like, HOW MANY SIBLINGS DO I HAVE THAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT???!!!
The Goddess of death comes from actual myth, her realm is where those who died a 'straw' death, a non-warrior death went. In actual myth Hela is Loki's daughter. When they take bits and pieces from myth to make a fiction, meaning can get lost.
Skurge is a halfbreed Storm giant/Asgardian, as far as I know, and he isn't really evil, just easily manipulated by women (aren't we all 😂)
Michael Coulter yea we are manipulative lil bitches
Zaire Yap
I'm not really saying anything about women, because I'm firmly in favour of women, and any manipulation is usually just part of the age-old dance that men and women have been dancing since there *were* men and women 😂
The Enchantress (in the comics, Skurge is in love with Amora the Enchantress, and she...........doesn't return the feeling, finding him a convenient stooge, for the most part) (sorry if you knew that already) uses Skurge as a convenient bodyguard/warrior, and she plays him like a fiddle.
Poor bastard doesn't stand a chance 😂
Skurge is love with Hela because she is a half breed as well. She is the child of Loki and the giantess Angrboða.
It's really a shame they didn't play that out longer. Knowing what you guys have shared about Hela and Scourge, I'm actually pissed they killed them off. These characters should have been built and developed over at least a couple movies. Karl Urban and what's her face are both perfect in these roles, but adding this detail you guys are talking about makes them FAR more interesting characters blurring the lines of "evil."
That said, Ragnorok is still an enromously entertaining story as filmed.
Loved you mentioning the Angel of Death. I've heard about all the other characters, but bringing that one up was new and thoughtful. Thanks man.
Except it was very inaccurate... He clearly hasn't actually read the Bible.
Jacob Dietz an inspiration doesnt have to be a copy paste.
i couldnt find the actual angel whats the name (did he just mispronounce azrael?)
There's alot of different Hebrew names. One is satan ha-Mashhit or mal'ak ha Mashhit which means "Destroyer" or "destroying angel". Another is Maweth. There's also a distinct class of angels in Judaism called the Memitim which can mean "executioners", "slayers", or "destroyers". Samael is also another name, as well as Abbadon. Azrael is a name sometimes used in both Judaism and Islam. It all gets really complicated when you get down to it.
thanks mate :)
"and thats okay" was a great way to tie all of it together that your video wasnt a criticism
This makes me feel sooo much better about Hela!
I was so ticked about most of her character story, but this makes sense. Thank you!!!
Also you forgot to mention she was Fenris's sister instead of owner.
Loki got some 'splain to do.
Isnt Fenris supposed to be a child of Loki in mythology? How does that work?
Loki is also the mother of Odin's horse in the myth so..........yeah let's just stop asking questions we may or may not want the answers to.
Jack Crnkovich yes
Is any of that true in the comics lore though?
I think in the comics, they have said that Hela is the daughter of a previous Loki. Since they go through Ragnarok, the gods get reborn so while Hela is the daughter of Loki, she's not the daughter of the current Loki. Or something. Because magic.
I like comic book Hela but I LOVE MCU Hela, and that's largely because of Cate Blanchett's portrayal of her (much like I didn't care for either Maria Hill or Nick Fury until they were brought to life in the movies).
Loki Firefox that's a great answer that makes a lot of sense
Jean Pierre Linares That is bananas. I love it.
Jean Pierre Linares so ...it's "Wibbly,wobbly, timey ,wimey" is what you're saying?
P.S. please forgive any spelling or grammatical errors , it is late & I'm tired .
Yeah, though I thought it was too bad that they approached Thomas Jane for the role of Frank Castle. In appearance, tone of voice, and bearing, I thought Thomas Jane would have made a much better Nick Fury.Even so, Samuel L. Jackson did a great job with the role. As time went by, I didn't care that I thought there could have been a better casting, because Jackson really owns that role, and rightly so. He captured the essence of the character, his "accountable to no-one attitude," and that gray morality that makes him one of the most interesting humans in Marvel.
Michael Nicholas if they were casting the white Nick Fury, Thomas Jane is a pretty good choice. I'm glad they went the Sam Jackson route though. He adds something to the ensemble, Thomas Jane, I fear (although I could be wrong! we'll just never know), would have been swallowed up by RDJ, the two Chrises, Mark Ruffalo and even Tom Hiddles.
Amora was amalgamated with Lorelei in the SHIELD series
I would’ve loved to see Hela’s ordinal powers used in the film, green lighting and effects! That would’ve have been nice if she went up against Thor with those powers!
Great editing. I didn't realise this was a small channel. The video is very well done and professional.
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Thanks!
Plus, Cate Blanchett doesn't age
"Who gives ghost rider powers and ruins Spider-Man comics" golden
I actually am waiting to see the Enchantress in the MCU. She was really cool in the comics.
FR: If she shows up in the mcu, she'll probably be a large hispanic transvestite "woman" with a lisp.
Leicester Blackthorne: ??
@Leo Watley that was Amora's little sister Lorelei
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Dr. Madd I feel the same way
DCEU could really really use this guy on their payroll
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One thing I should note Memphisto isn't the actual biblical devil in the Marvel Universe he likes to pretend he is, and goes through Great Lengths to reinforce that image. other than that i just found your channel you did an excellent job and I'm off to see more of your videos 🖒
1mezion isnt lucifer Morningstar actually a marvel character? Or is that dc?
Monday's insanity That's DC
Rafael Lopez ah ok wasnt sure
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Mephisto (or Mephistopholes) isn't the biblical Devil in Christian mythology either. He's pretty much just a literary character invented in the story of Doctor Faust, and he's portrayed as one of the higher-ranking demons with the ability to tempt mortals directly.
man, this made me like the movie more. also you're amazing, great job on deciphering hela
Love everything about this. Especially the fact that I got a Nando's ad before it
Just found this channel, and its fantastic. Great work! Well done!
I just wish Hela had the half rotted face from Norse lore.
Korzik Not on Cate Blanchett you won't.
cate Blanchett was hot as fuck with the messy long hair.. looks lame with her helmet and her hair back
If you want a genuinely great and accurate retelling of the Ragnarock legend, I highly recommend Loki by Michael Vasich. It retells the majority of the most well known myths and legends, always opening each chapter with the dry undramatized version first so you can compare how he adapted them into his work. It's clever, funny, exciting, and all around the best dramatic representation of Norse Mythology I've ever seen.
Norse Mythology
By: Neil Gaiman
Is another great book. But, I'd recommend the audio book.
@Joel Miller I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. Cate Blanchett as Hela is sexy as fuck. :D
Your transitions between points are actually so smooth
Hela (also known as Hel) in Norse mythology actually is Loki's daughter... Fenris (aka Fenri) and Surtur (aka Surt) are her brothers too...
And Loki is equivalent of a brother to Odin, besides the World snake is also one of Loki's children
@@italucenaz yess
Surt isn't related to Loki in anyway.
i thought jomungandr was their brother not surtur. and sleipnir was their half brother.
@@ismata3274 and don't forget Navi and Narfi
With regard to Hela's 'imprisonment' - maybe she was banished to a specific realm such as nifelheim by Odin, and him dying broke that banishment.
The Matrix Uploaded So an almost litetal pocket dimension?
according the Norse mythology all 3 of Loki's children (Fenrir ,Jormungandr and Hela) where as banished form Asgard. Hela (or just simply Hel) was banished to Helheim, the land of the dead, where she ruled.
isnt it because loki fucked with odin hela broke free thats what i got from the movie
he banished him from Asgard which just fastened Odins death slightly
My problem with Hela wasn't that she wasn't "hela". My problem with hela was that she was barely in the fucking movie.
But she was still great.
I would've preferred a lot more Hela over the side story of being stuck in between realms, it was good for Thor to be away for a little but that long got kinda boring. I enjoyed the film but it isn't the greatest. Mainly I just hope she is not going to be left dead like Red Skull for instance, and comes back with a vengeance and even nastier acts and intentions. After all, Thor hit her with all he had even with his newfound powers and he basically just knocked her down.
It's because it also had the planet Hulk storyline going on. You can make the same argument about The Grandmaster not really being in the movie. And he wasn't it was just Jeff Goldblum literally it was like there was no acting at all that was Jeff Goldblum being shot by camera.
Phil Dog who cares she isn’t the main character
Yeah get used to that with Marvel films. Kevin Feige said it himself that they are superhero films so they put the focus on superheroes and just make the villain interesting enough for the hero to fight.
MCU Hela is my absolute favourite MCU character I’m so glad they took her character in the direction they did, just hopeful she manages to return sometime in the future
the thumbnails are cool and minimalistic, the videos are so well-made and the narration + explanations are great. how does this channel not have millions of subscribers??
I watched the film and had a Hela good time.
Bobby Ranger wish the movie was longer, I think it was due to budget issues and time.
Fano Boyo The joke.
You.
I commented on a joke. Doesn't mean I don't get the joke.
Fano Boyo What was the point of commenting on a joke...?
Curt MC to share my opinion on the movie????
Your videos are so 👏 good 👏 ohmygod. Video essays are in their prime on CZcams right now, and you're killing it.
Bravo! Another extremely well-researched, well-thought-out theory. I buy this one 100%, and thank you for it!
fantastic breakdown, very interesting stuff.. i learned a lot about what inspired Hela in the film, thank you!
Fascinating stuff. Good video, cheers.
I just found your channel, you've got some pretty good quality stuff here.
Hela in the movie was so hot. I think Cate did a great job.
Same with Galadriel. She's hot no matter what she does.
Cate Blanchett is hot
Thank you for making this video qz I've basically been telling everyone this.
"...but there's already a "Devil" devil named Mephisto who gives Ghost Rider his powers and ruins Spider-Man comics"
that one made my day.. so that now leaves me with one more day..
:(
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I'm a little surprised there was no mention of Lady Death.
villains.wikia.com/wiki/Lady_Death_(Marvel)
I don't think they borrowed all that much from Lady Death for Thor Ragnarok, but I do believe they're setting Hela up to take Lady Death's place (willingly or otherwise) at Thanos' side during the upcoming Infinity War movies, which is why his presence and machinations were hinted at in a couple places in Ragnarok (Loki spotting the cube, the ship in post-credits). I'm sure you've ready the original Infinity Gauntlet series, I think they've been setting up a couple characters to step in and take over specific roles from OG Infinity Gauntlet. Specifically, I think Loki is being set up to take Mephisto's role as the conniving accomplice that tries and fails to steal the Gauntlet once Thanos assembles it, and Hela will be the avatar of death that Thanos falls for.
cheezeninja She's dead
Remember that Lady Death(in a way) exists in the MCU.
marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Death
If you read the wiki page, it states that Death is a female and will be portrayed in the MCU by a woman actor. There's also the fact that Death's image resembles a lot to her comic book design,
Cake# They never show her dying...
Tyler lastname We straight up see Surtur strike his sword down and Hela turn into green dust.
Cake# They didnt show her burst into green dust in the version I watched. It was just Surtur hitting the ground where she was standing with his sword. It was a really wide shot too.
Thank you for using clips from Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, thus reminding me that it exists, and is still underrated
Great video!! Never knew anything of this
Where was Lady Sif in Thor: Ragnarok???!
I am The Hammer that's an excellent question
I am The Hammer From what I heard storywise, Loki disguised as Odin exiled Sif since she's the mostly likely to expose him for usurping the true Odin. Studio wise, the actress didn't have enough time to be in Thor Ragnarok since she was scheduled for another movie. In other words, the actress had a busy schedule.
Banished by Loki, probably.
She wasn't there at the time.
The actress playing hela could not reprise her role because she wad working on her show called blindspot
She wasn't on Asgard. Which is fine. The MCU has established that she leaves Asgard quite frequently, having visited earth at least two times we know of entirely on her own.
That said, it would have been nice to schedule in some kind of cameo in the credits to establish where she was doing.
I'm looking for a new video! Is Erik Killmonger also an amalgamation of different characters? How about M'baku?
It's tough. Most of them were pretty spot on. There is a change I'd make to the movie, but I haven't quite figured it out yet.
Awesome! I can't wait for that vid. I have loved every single vid you've put out so far, so I'm highly anticipating more Nando :D
Marek Sison yeah they mixed his origin with another villain of BP.
The White Wolf. It's pretty neat.
In the comics M'Baku kills the former Black Panther. T'Challa's father.
Killmonger is Magneto in MCU, mostly.
Now that you mention Hela is an amalgamation of so many different characters, it gets me thinking that we won't see all those other characters in the MCU because then things would begin to feel repetitive. :(
Also, one thing to mention is her line to Thor: "What were you the God of again?" is something Gorr actually says in the comics.
Amazing application of the Hebrew Lore and Old Testamnet/New Testament usage of the Bible. As a theology major, this is both impressive and worth the watch. I was pleasantly surprised! You sir, are a gentleman, and a scholar. Kudos to you.
Dude how do you not have subs? My boyfriend and I are binging all of your vids now
And she was in the movie for 15 minutes. This was far more interesting than anything in the film. They didn't take the time to develop any of these ideas.
They really should have kept her to play the role of Death in Infinity War. I'd excuse killing her off if she was at least an interesting villain, but she was just completely wasted.
Couldn't agree with you more
I really hope she really wasn't killed by that blow and either escaped or even struck back and won, even with asgard totalled. It was dumb enough when Captain American's main villain Red Skull got "killed" when it seemed like he just ended up somewhere else like Loki. Totally ruined any chance to make Crossbones or Zemo more interesting, but at least the latter captain america films found a way to work around that by using the bigger crazy stories. Aka not making half a thor film "planet hulk."
baratbball very agree! Hela actually make path with Thanos cause as the goddess of death hela have path with the Death itself too.. i wish hela will return to infinity wars
You see her get clattered by Surtur at the end of Ragnarok, but you don't really see a body or see her die. I'd hope she comes back in IW and we learn that she has some sort of relationship with Thanos
Don't know how i haven't come across this video sooner but very well done sir.
Dude you have great videos. Keep it up
You forgot the big one - she's Bad Galadriel. :v
Excellent video. You expertly answered my question I had about the movie and the change in Hela. I stopped reading Thor after Williamson brilliant run and was scratching my head on how Hela, powerful as she was , was able to destroy Thor's hammer and instead of her death touch or hand if glory she was casting out spears and swords. Now I know. Spot on with your analysis.
Just nitpicking though I wished they would have adhered more to the original Hela. Doctor strange proved you can simplify mystical powers. I wish mcu would just give Hela and Loki their magical powers in the comics. Hex bolts and such. Seems more powerful and visually appealing than Loki tossing daggers while and kung fu wire flips. But like I said, I am nitpicking. Loved the movie. Will see it again!
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I think maybe they didn't want to show her doing the whole Game of Thrones White Walkers thing so they opted for a different power set. I personally think her airwalking and and raising the dead while unleashing blast that age people and kisses that kill would've been murderously magnificent. Cate is such a great actress she could've made anything work.
theres a big rumour she will be absorbing the role of death as in Thanos' love obsession
Sounds about right. It's a clever way to condense the universe and might tie into Thanos' ship appearing in the post credits scene. Plus who isn't down for more Cate Blanchette?
As long as Ms. Blanchett plays her, I'm in.
Poirot's Mustache you said it right
And way to tie it into the idea of flawed leaders and mentors in the rest of the MCU. I'd missed some of those!
Nice job mate!
Wonderful video!
Please make a video where you reveal that Korg is the most important and powerful Marvel character of all time, and he will be the one to defeat Thanos.
Something I think should be noted, that you were on the cusp of with the Angel of Death bit: I've heard it said and totally buy it that she might be the version of Death that Thanos falls in love with. That's an important part of his character, she is established, and has a great actress in the role. Unless they want to stack another character in on the complex Infinity War deal or leave that out of his story entirely, I wouldn't be surprised if they put her in there. Especially considering how Thanos, spoiler alert, runs into Thor at the end of Ragnarok.
So lemme get this straight, you are perfectly fine about the fact Ragnorok is so far off from how Ragnorok actually was that it shouldn’t even be called Ragnorok yet you notice Hela is the one that isn’t accurate...
Crazy, now we got gorr
I don't think there will be a Thor 4, the MCU has been doing only trilogies so far. maybe that'll change tho.
John Doe i think weve got an iron man 4 in the next phase after infinity war
joe lo RDJs contract is up after Avengers 4.
A lot of the points brought up about Hela's character in this video makes me care more about her motives than what was presented in the movie, which had gags and jokes around every corner, interfering with the moment.
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I think it was pretty apparent what her motives were. It's the same old - conquer everything.
I think you took this movie too seriously. Where Guardians Vol. 2 took its threat deadly seriously, making those moments where it just doesn't feel completely out of place, Ragnarock just wants to have fun. There are no genuinely tense scenes, just scenes with cool action, and scenes with great laughs. It's a comedy. I expected nothing less from an indie filmmaker known best for his comedies.
Jared Delahoussaye I know right, all she wanted to do in that film was kill all the Asguardians, and keep Fenris and Skurge to rebuild her kingdom! Like, that concept is really cool, but it would just be them doing that with little to no people on Asguard!
It's an opinion I share the same one, I found that it was to focussed on being funny all the time reducing the impact of certained events in the film. Like the destruction of Asgard, did it have to have a joke running alongside? I know it was mentioned that it was just a place but come on everyone looked at their entire lifehood being destroyed and it had to be made funny. I think great comedies know how to balance between the really deep stuff and the funny stuff making a distinction when to use which. For example I love the series Scrubs they do this method in their episodes knowing when it's comedy and when it's drama.
So I think his argument holds merit and it's not just a question of not ''seeing'' it.
Bro, thanks for video, I really apprieciate
i knew i've seen that dark-sword power set from somewhere. thanks for reminding me.
This NvM is Hela good
I still have a theory that Hela may also be a placeholder for "Death" as Thanos's motivation to wipe out half of the universe.
The comparison between MCU!Hela and other comic book characters was already an interesting enough premise to get me watching, but finding a parallel in Ragnarok to Christian Canon is really gripping. Thank you for the video!
If I remember correctly Amora was in Marvels Agents of SHIELD! She came to Earth and Lady Sif followed her and got help from Coulson to capture her and return her to Asgard. Great episode, I remember learning a lot about Lady Sif and her feelings towards Thor (that I don't think are ever gonna develop in the movies but i'd kinda be indifferent about it if it did)
What makes me mad is that we may never get a gorr The God butcher movie now
hackingenious7 easily my favourite Thor story arc
Her name is supposed to be Hel. She's based on the actual norse pagan death goddess. Marvel never gets anything about the Norse Gods right
Marvel actually doesn't get things straight from the Norse mythology. They are creating their own version. In our real world, Marvel created these characters INSPIRED by the Norse mythology, while in the Marvel universe (both comics & MCU) THEY inspired the Norse people to create the mythology itself. Odin and co. are aliens, who came to Earth some thousands of years ago and inspired the people who then came up with the mythology, that's the Marvel version. Marvel is free to interpret their version of the Norse mythology, however they want, because that's how it works there. They are not taking the raw mythology and implementing it as it is. People just confuse it for that.
You can't say someone didn't get something right when they weren't trying to. It's like saying Dragonball doesn't get sun wukong right. It was never the point.
Patchwork Heart I's rather not have Loki give birth to a fucking horse. And Marvel is just taking concept from Norse, they're not trying to get anything right
yea but as a dannish man we are glad they just took inspiration from our mythology and not tried to copy it. becurse if they did copy. then Thor would be Tor and he would be red haired
@James The smol bean You completely missed the whole context... he was saying that in the Marvel universe, these aliens that are called Asgardians inspired the Norse mythology on the planet called Earth, it has nothing to do with the real world or timeline. Read, bruv.
Did you actually cut off the quote mid-sentence and capitalize the first word to insinuate something totally misleading or was that how the original comment was written?
Good stuff, dude. You earned my sub :-)
So, super interesting, since Gorr is now confirmed to be in Thor 4 as the main villain, he could be getting his black death sword thing from Hela's remains. I can't wait to see it.