Bluetti AC200P Vs EB200P Vs AC200Max - HEAD TO HEAD! Which Is Best For You!? 2000wh Showdown!

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  • čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
  • In this comparison video I demonstrate the differences between the larger Bluetti AC200P, EB200P, and AC200Max power stations. All of them have LFP batteries, and are loaded with a bunch of different outputs! Which one fits your use case the best? How do they perform against each other? Check out the video to see more!
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    Video Timestamps:
    Introduction: (0:00)
    AC200p Specs: (0:53)
    EB200p Specs: (3:26)
    AC200Max Specs: (6:29)
    Testing the AC Inverters: (9:39)
    AC Capacity / Idle Testing: (12:14)
    DC Output / Capacity Testing: (15:21)
    Form Factor, Weight, Warranty, Support: (17:46)
    Pricing Per WH: (21:29)
    Grading System & Final Thoughts: (23:33)
    #jasonoid #bluetti #AC200p #AC200Max #EB200p #solargenerator #solarpanel
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Komentáře • 373

  • @Jasonoid
    @Jasonoid  Před rokem +22

    Bluetti has their Black Friday sale coming up, keep an eye out for the best prices of the year!

    • @jimdaly5077
      @jimdaly5077 Před rokem +2

      Thank you I will, although the big deals don’t always get to the UK.🐝🙃

    • @blackbalerion
      @blackbalerion Před rokem +1

      Great video and useful information! Thx a lot! I actually think about getting the AC200MAX... Do you know of increased malfunctions of the Bluettis' touch screens?

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +2

      @@blackbalerion I haven't seen any issues with my screens at all. I also don't have viewer telling me of their issues with the displays. I think they are fairly dependable.

    • @gwashburn39
      @gwashburn39 Před rokem +3

      I have the AC200Maxx and 2 B300's ;) They got enough of my money this year 🙃

    • @blackbalerion
      @blackbalerion Před rokem +1

      @yeshuas child2022 thx for your feedback - I chose EF Delta 2 because of the screen issues... seems I did the right thing...

  • @dancarney106
    @dancarney106 Před rokem +20

    Jason, Bluetti or EcoFlow should offer you a salaried position in their company. You have proven you know the customers wants and you can present the product. You also understand the technology and can interface with design engineers in the development of product. This presentation of these three Bluetti products proves your abilities. Thank you.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +15

      Thanks Dan! I have had 4 or 5 companies reach out and ask about my feedback about their new products they are developing. I'll see if my feedback helps them create the ULTIMATE power station! Also, EcoFlow offered to fly me out to their CES 2023 presentation in January next year. While there I'd be able to visit the booths of many of these companies to see whats new!

  • @litnoregrets7551
    @litnoregrets7551 Před rokem +13

    These are great units. Thank you for your review. Comparison reviews are the best because people often do tests different, but when you do them at the same time, it really gives some great information. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into these.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +3

      I'm trying to stick to a testing standard so each power station I test has an equal playing field. Thanks for commenting!

  • @94Civic07
    @94Civic07 Před rokem +4

    This is the best Bluetti large unit comparison and now I know which unit I’m going to buy with my hard earn money. I love your review videos; keep up the awesome review that you do Jason.

  • @Speed00007
    @Speed00007 Před rokem +8

    Great review dude! You have the best comparison videos for the Bluetti power stations. I ended up going with the AC200MAX. The extra features on that unit is totally worth it.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +2

      Thanks Speeeeed! You made a great choice!

    • @heatherk8931
      @heatherk8931 Před rokem +1

      Were you able to get it set up?

  • @briant2259
    @briant2259 Před rokem +4

    In May 2022 I bought the AC300 and B300 and their email response was within 48 hours for my 4 emails I sent them. But a month ago the AC300 shorted out inside. Sent an email on a Monday no response, phone just rings. But they do weekly live sales on Facebook and CZcams. So I did a live comment during broadcast and their customer support directed me to message them in Facebook, I gave them the order number and what happened and they would get back to me. A few days later on their next live sale I messaged them on Facebook asking what the status was. They apologized and said hold on. Then I got an email response to my original email. From that point on it went as expected, she sent an RGA, I returned it to NV. Then they sent me a new unit.
    The process took a couple weeks and I had to be a squeaky wheel but all in all I am satisfied with the result. You spend thousands or ten thousand $ with them their customer support could use improvement. It is a fantastic product I just hope they don't lose their edge with less then great customer support.

  •  Před rokem +10

    Jason, thank you for your honesty on the support issues! That is not to say that Bluetti need to say bad about it, instead they should say "thank you" and take action and fix it so that everyone is happy! In my case I am heading in the direction of turning our home off grid and you need to be able to get a hold of support and get the unit fixed swiftly as a family is depending on it.. Perhaps I will need to divide up my system between multiple units only for that above reason and have a bit more piece of mind.. Thanks again! Adrian

  • @marilynrenaud1892
    @marilynrenaud1892 Před rokem +2

    Fantastic video! I was able to get my AC200MAX for $1499. with Bluetti's Black Friday sale.😁 So glad I did!👍

  • @tracycaldwell1736
    @tracycaldwell1736 Před rokem +1

    The best I've seen and real questions about one's home answered. Thank you!

  • @pvanderwall3473
    @pvanderwall3473 Před rokem +1

    Excellent review, very thorough! Most definitely a pleasure on your grading scale

  • @abbeyjane1306
    @abbeyjane1306 Před rokem +2

    I have an AC200P and an EB3A with PV200 and SP120 panels. No issues at all. Thanks for the excellent video.

  • @keepsmiling1484
    @keepsmiling1484 Před rokem +1

    Very well presented and reinforces my decision today to order the ac200max! Thx for sharing.

  • @pierredenommee1370
    @pierredenommee1370 Před rokem +3

    You did a fantastic job on demonstrating the difference in the unit's.

  • @FidoHouse
    @FidoHouse Před 11 měsíci +1

    Thank you for doing this. I bought an AC200P a couple of years ago. Glad it's not all bad.

  • @chitownholmes
    @chitownholmes Před rokem +3

    wow!!!! this is a great presentation. So much information and work was put into it. Cant wait to see the comparison with other stations. Love this channel ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

  • @valster6254
    @valster6254 Před rokem +2

    A lot of work. Great job Jasonoid.

  • @TieFly
    @TieFly Před rokem +1

    This video is awesome. I was wondering about each of these devices the other day.

  • @martinmcdonald585
    @martinmcdonald585 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I HAVE AN AC200P & AC200MAX. GREAT PRESENTATION.
    TX & GOD BLESS

  • @garyhorne4739
    @garyhorne4739 Před rokem +1

    Jason,
    Very good and thorough reviews. I have been trying to reach Bluetti customer service for their recommendations on several occasions with no answer. They asked me to leave a voicemail and would return my call. That was 2 weeks ago and have never received a call back! That concerns me for spending this type of money on a highly technical product purchased to use in an possible emergency situation. Thank you for the great comparison head to head!

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +1

      Check out the Anker 767 or the Ecoflow Delta 2 Max instead. I have videos on both of those options and their support is much better.

  • @cali-electro-dad
    @cali-electro-dad Před rokem +1

    AWSOME head-to-head review. Hit all the points I needed to know. Only wish I'd watched it before purchasing the AC200P.

  • @locascioantonino
    @locascioantonino Před rokem +1

    Merry Christmas, and a happy new year my friend

  • @VandTheVan
    @VandTheVan Před rokem +1

    Thanks for such a thorough video.

  • @campbellsoup4910
    @campbellsoup4910 Před rokem +1

    Happy Holidays Dr.J'
    Thanks for this video, I was just looking for a power station to buy for Cyber Monday and wanted to compare these. 👍🏾

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +2

      The AC200MAX and AC200P are both on sale right now, some of the best pricing I have seen!

    • @campbellsoup4910
      @campbellsoup4910 Před rokem +1

      @@Jasonoid Thanks Dr.J for the heads up, the prices were very very nice 👍🏾

  • @kenjuicekrajewski9577
    @kenjuicekrajewski9577 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Outstanding best review now i know what to get for my cabin

  • @michaellynas5511
    @michaellynas5511 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for all of your hard work this was very informative.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +1

      Glad it was helpful! My goal was to make it easier to chose between all three of them.

  • @CMills8674
    @CMills8674 Před rokem +2

    Thank you, excellent review as usual. I sent an email to Bluetti about the AC200 Max to to confirm if it performs pass thru charging or if it has UPS functionality, they did not respond…however, you answered my question.
    Thank you

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +2

      Hey Chris, these all support pass through charging but not UPS functionality. Glad you found the video to be helpful!

  • @scottfrost47
    @scottfrost47 Před rokem +1

    Great job. Very informative. I would watch your other comparison videos.

  • @johnx9318
    @johnx9318 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for the video and the spreadsheet.

  • @rob8540
    @rob8540 Před rokem +1

    Great to see the 3 big ones near each other. Thanks,

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +1

      It was a fun video to do!

  • @ChefCrys01
    @ChefCrys01 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for the side by side comparison.

  • @jimdaly5077
    @jimdaly5077 Před rokem +2

    Great to see the head to head comparison, it may have changed my buying preference. 👍🐝🌞

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +1

      Which way you leaning? I'm curious now!

    • @jimdaly5077
      @jimdaly5077 Před rokem +3

      I was looking hard at the AC200P, but seeing the head to head I am looking again at the AC200 Max,the side by side comparison shows all three in a good light, but the max looks to have the edge. 👍🐝😊

  • @hughmacgregor5435
    @hughmacgregor5435 Před rokem +1

    That was brilliant. I have covid and have been stuck in bed studying these solar generators over the last few days. I began knowing nothing. I became very confused. Until I watched your presentation. Now I will order the Bluetti ac200max. I require one for my small motorhome. But I do not use it often however still require off grid camping. So I will also use the Bluetti to power my pool pump at home...just to begin with. We pay around 30 to 38 cents a kilowatt here in Sydney Australia. So this will start to pay for itself. My electric bill is around $700 per quarter. I may keep building on the Bluetti with extra batteries and bring my electric bill down to $150 to $200 per quarter. Perhaps even go off grid one day. The beauty of these things is I can take it with me if I move house or rent my house out or sell it. Try doing that with those permanent solar panels you sign up to for 7 years. And by then there ready to be junked if they don't blow off your roof or catch fire like many have done over here. Then they are supposed to be checked and serviced by a highfalutin specialist that rolls up in a Ferrari. The other thing is my electric bill will be $800 per quarter next year. Anyway thanks again for a brilliant presentation. Cheers.

    • @djfglobal3377
      @djfglobal3377 Před rokem +1

      Hope you’ve beat the covid blues buddy, how are you liking the ac 200 max? I’m thinking of getting the same unit for my van and to power some tools

  • @jockwar
    @jockwar Před 6 dny

    great review I have a RV in Oz so the 200 max sounds the one for me having the 15 amp socket

  • @davidcarrico3385
    @davidcarrico3385 Před rokem +9

    Awesome video. I saw a reference to the eb200p somewhere and was wondering how it compared to the other 2 so this video was perfect. The AC200Max is almost perfect. Two things would make it perfect (I’ll add a third though 😊) 1. UPS functionality so I could get some use out of it even when I’m not traveling and 2. If it supported the new B300s batteries (even if through an adapter cable. Then 3. I would actually love a 1000wh version at reduced cost but same 2200w inverter, ports and features, just lower cost, and still expandable.

    • @bradarmstrong5033
      @bradarmstrong5033 Před rokem +2

      You can use the b300 batteries with the ac200max. Takes the same connection as to b230.

  • @carolannbest1925
    @carolannbest1925 Před rokem

    Excellent review..very much needed comparison...ty. hoping you can review the AC200max and AC300 and AC500

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +1

      I have reviewed all of them.

  • @riftgod6169
    @riftgod6169 Před rokem +2

    Thank you for testing idle drain!

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +2

      You're welcome! Most other channels don't talk about it. It's a big factor in which model you'd want to go with!

  • @jstone4351
    @jstone4351 Před rokem +1

    Great video. I have a 200P, and have been tempted to spring for the Max one day.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +1

      It's got some good performance increases!

  • @user--PM
    @user--PM Před rokem +2

    the max although a bit more expensive looks to be the best out of the bunch.
    btw i got my notification today!
    thanks again for the review video!

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +2

      I triple checked that setting on this video haha. Had to make sure people were going to be notified!

  • @mmcg5043
    @mmcg5043 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for the review. I was an early adopter for the AC200P. This is a very good unit and the only negative I have is that the display cannot be seen in medium to bright conditions. In fact I have to use my cellphone camera to see the display often. The later units with bluetooth help with this but Bluetti needs to install brighter displays. My next purchase will be Bluetti and at a discount.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      Make sure to watch out during black Friday, memorial day, and labor day. Those seem to be the best sales of the year.

  • @shelley131
    @shelley131 Před rokem +5

    Fantastic review of all Bluetti big boys. I had no idea that none of them offer UPS, which for me has always been a deal breaker . As always you rock and are very succinct and to the point. I love your reviews, thank you for your hard work.

  • @mommadw2010
    @mommadw2010 Před rokem

    I bought the AC200P and so far, I have been happy with it and because I wanted to expand the power, I bought the EB300 3072Wh and did not know it came with a giant cable which does not work with the 2000W system, so I had to purchase the adapter. I reached out to cust svc via chat and email and they responded pretty fast

  • @richardhobbs7107
    @richardhobbs7107 Před rokem +1

    Have been 'working' my original AC200P for 2 full years ! It is the main (stationary) power station & handles refrigerator, induction cook-top, microwave duties with additional extras of 8k room air-conditioner and charging a Nissan Leaf EV in short sessions. Charged by 3 x 180 watt panels in series w/50' 10awg connection gives up to 420 watts in full sun. Enough power for a retired senior with no extra baggage.
    How-Ever: have several smaller power stations for auxiliary support applications such as powering weed-wacker, soldering iron, computer video & sound, VHS with analog TV entertainment system, electric scooter charging, . . . . . . . and . . . ( of course ) my light-speed accelerator experimentation for interstellar transport applications . . . . . . . . . . .
    Love the power stations and PV panels ! ! ! take care, RH

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      Sounds like it's been a champ for you so far! Excellent description of how you use your portable power!

    • @richardhobbs7107
      @richardhobbs7107 Před rokem

      @@Jasonoid - Thank You for excellent reviews ! !

  • @wmike8162
    @wmike8162 Před rokem +1

    Just ordered the max based on your review, thanks

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +1

      You'll enjoy the Max, definitely some great upgrades over the other two options.

    • @wmike8162
      @wmike8162 Před rokem +1

      @@Jasonoid prices have dropped too.

  • @dinobernardi170
    @dinobernardi170 Před rokem +1

    Thanks Jason...great video...again. Heard same about their customer service. Just received my Pecron E2000 lfp. All kinds of issues with it out of the box. Not sure if it got abused, dropped during shipping or what happened. Reached out and within couple hrs issue resolved for return and replacement. Was considering Bluetti during my research and avoided because of many customer issues....second guessing myself but after hearing your ongoing experience with them think I'll stay away. Shame really like that AC200 Max. As far as the Pecron goes all the videos watched you guys talked it up quite a bit, hoping that the issues with this one is shipping related. 10 to 15 year Lithium Phosphate doesn't do much good if the unit continues to crap out after 6 months. Thanks for all your sharing.

    • @coperich
      @coperich Před 5 měsíci

      How are you going with the Pecron?

  • @ricecakeFTW
    @ricecakeFTW Před 2 měsíci

    Just got the AC200MAX open box for $850 from Blueetti. This thing is a beast and the APP is pretty awesome. Use it for my RV at parks where with generator curfew times.

  • @user-tv8sm6so9y
    @user-tv8sm6so9y Před rokem

    Great video, I'd rather the AC200p and if I wanted to expand the power I'd buy the AC200 Max, But for me I'd want the AC200p for sure, Well done,

  • @doug1olson
    @doug1olson Před rokem

    Thanks, nice review comparison. One note though, I just got an AC200MAX and it came with the 500 watt power brick with the noisy fan.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      Maybe they have both options? Weird!

  • @f091537
    @f091537 Před rokem +5

    For a more accurate test for the idle power consumption especially for the AC200MAX you should discharge it to zero after the 10 hour idle test to see how much actual energy is left and subtract that from the actual capacity test. The EcoFlow Delta for example draws 3 watts when idle with the DC output on even though the SoC meter indicates 100% even after 24 hours.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      Thanks for the feedback! Great tip.

  • @christinagardener1889

    Love this review

  • @PanAndrii
    @PanAndrii Před rokem

    great work, thank you

  • @Mike-.
    @Mike-. Před rokem

    Nice comparison!

  • @californiamusic
    @californiamusic Před 2 měsíci

    Very helpful, thanks!

  • @darleneanglin3651
    @darleneanglin3651 Před rokem

    EXCELLENT VIDEO ! Thank you 🤗

  • @drcoolit
    @drcoolit Před 11 měsíci

    excellent -- very helpful

  • @free2binnh
    @free2binnh Před rokem

    I liked your presentation. I have the AC200P and has been connected to my kitchen appliances, not the microwave and the propane stove. Pleased with the performance of the AC200P. The only issue is that I would like to expand AC200P to 3kb or 4kb.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      Thanks Steve, there a couple different ways to expand your AC200p manually. I made a video on the topic HERE: czcams.com/video/dTTneUtz4Jk/video.html
      The easiest way to do it is by connecting an extra 24v battery or 48 volt battery to the charging input.

  • @johnvistawall9722
    @johnvistawall9722 Před rokem +1

    Excellent review Jason! Well thought and technical as always! Next item you should compare is zendures superbase v vs ecoflows Delta pro and bluetti ac500 .They seem to be the top dogs of the market. Which one is the best?

  • @bcstaff
    @bcstaff Před rokem +3

    I loved the idea of Bluetti product based on specs, build and price. Unfortunatly if you have any issues and need to contact customer support you are up a proverbial raging river without a paddle. To say this company has customer support is a misnomer. They have a phone # that nobody answers and does not accept VM's. They have various email addresses that nobody responds to and when they do it is a differant person each time, some that have emails of outside organizations. Buyer beware you better hope your product works because if it does not it is a nightmare to get support or to return the unit.

  • @garytrawinski1843
    @garytrawinski1843 Před rokem +1

    You can now use the B230 and B300 batteries with the AC200P. The power only goes in one direction from the battery to the main unit.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +1

      Yeah, that's why I don't really call it "expandable", since it doesn't charge the batteries back up like the AC200max.

  • @dkillian33
    @dkillian33 Před rokem +4

    I have several Bluetti products. Had a charger problem with the EB70. Phone service nonexistent and email response was slow and cumbersome. Months later no resolution. I have one EcoFlow powerstation and had a question about interference. They were very responsive, followed up and worked through solutions. Great service. Sadly EcoFlow has too much interference for my use but great for lights and frig. I am getting another large station and because of bad service it will not be Bluetti.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for sharing your feedback, I hope they can improve their service, especially over the phone!

  • @KYHill-billy
    @KYHill-billy Před rokem

    I have reached out to bluetti several times & in every way & their customer service is the worst! I own 2- AC200P's & I have gone to their website to register both for the extended warranty & after you type in your info it comes back & says they will let you know if it excepted your info. Well after submitting both several times I still have not heard anything back & it's been over 4-weeks. So sad to say their warranty & customer service SUCK's! Jason, great video. You really need to do a comparison head-to-head with the bluetti ac200p & the OUKITEL P2001. that would be a good match up!!

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +3

      Thanks Phil, I think their customer support could improve as well. I think I'll do a "2000wh LFP" comparison video once Ecoflow launches the larger Delta Max LFP model. Not sure when that will be though... Then I'll do a comparison from 5 or 6 2000wh models to see which one is the best!

  • @johntate5284
    @johntate5284 Před rokem +6

    Great review Jason! I have the 200 max with the 2 b230 batteries and am 100% satisfied. The EB200P seems to be an enigma as to why it exists, especially with the rather high MSRP of$1999. I got my 200 max at $1499, but i have not seen that price repeated again. The bluetooth app and being able to update the firmware are really huge bonuses compared to the other 2. As i think that Tripp-Lite and APC make better high end USP systems (once you drop the SLA and replace with drop in LFP) than any of the current group of solar generator companies, i leave UPS to the professionals and let the 200 max power everything else when the grid drops and let my lone PV350 charge everything back up between the blackouts. My external power brick is appropriately being used, as a brick😃 Next up for me is one of the Power Queen 4.6KW server rack batteries at 26 cents per watt!

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +3

      Great setup! You'll have to let me know how that server rack battery goes! I'm wanting to move that way eventually!

    • @zfontain1975
      @zfontain1975 Před rokem

      How is the fan noise on that unit?

    • @johntate5284
      @johntate5284 Před rokem +1

      @@zfontain1975 Even when the refrigerator is defrosting, i have never heard the fans kick on and i charge at a pretty slow rate on solar and i haven't heard the fans on charging either. I think the charger for my EB70 is louder and it is really annoying.

    • @zfontain1975
      @zfontain1975 Před rokem

      @@johntate5284 your fans never kick on when running your 200max? I run mine 24/7 so the fans kick on and off unless I'm using under 150 watts then they stay off. I have 1000 watts of panels charging it daily.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +2

      My fans cycle on and off every couple minutes, they don't run all the time though. I have 550 watts going into this system on average.

  • @baneverything5580
    @baneverything5580 Před rokem +1

    My power stations and big LiFeP04 battery came in handy again after the recent storm and power outage here. I was able to use my microwave and keep my fridge and freezer going and use WIFI. I run my lights from them so if the power goes out I don`t notice right away but don`t have to look for a flashlight.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      Glad to hear your system is working!

  • @andrewinaustintx
    @andrewinaustintx Před rokem +1

    This review is if not a home run at least a triple, (pun intended)
    From a truck camper perspective, I see a lot builds that rely on a Jackery or Goal Zero to make the leap into storing solar panel. I looked into it last year when do my own D.I.Y install and thought the Bluetti AC200P would be perfect. Here we are a year later and instead of my D.I.Y install, with the experience of replicating a solar power pack with separate components, I would call the EB200P a good enough alternative.
    Granted my D.I.Y. build has couple of performance advantages over an all-in-on solar power pack - but it was way over budget and not easily removable should I have to sell the truck camper at low price.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      I think DIY is a great way to go, especially if you mostly use DC power. It's all around more efficient and simple. If you really need AC power while out and about, a power station is a great simple solution! They both have their advantages and I use both throughout my camping trips :)

  • @myfpv6813
    @myfpv6813 Před rokem +1

    Really great test. Can I ask for some updates - additional info? like which firmware versions each of them have. I had few ac200p and I had like 3 different versions of firmwares - maybe some of them are more efficient then older units (and AFAIK only factory can do f/w upgrade :( ). I like that max got such low parasitic drain on DC, but did You confirm it with real each cell voltage? when there is no drain maybe it cut d/c outputs completly...or is it only "smart" firmware which wont update so frequently.

  • @joet2678
    @joet2678 Před rokem

    Awesome reviews. Thx you so much. Can any of these three withdraw and Charging the same time if I'm in a house wall or in my car using - 12v?

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +1

      Yes, all three of these support charging and discharging at the same time.

  • @gerardholman5633
    @gerardholman5633 Před 5 měsíci

    Best review out of 4 reviewers. 1/31/2024

  • @tonyclark6618
    @tonyclark6618 Před rokem +1

    Hi, I have the UK version of the AC200P. The screen automatically turns off after one minute. Up to two B230 expansion batteries can be used with the AC200P through the DC inputs, although this reduces the configuration options and is not as flexible as the AC200MAX.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +1

      Interesting differences, thanks for sharing!

  • @pfswalter
    @pfswalter Před rokem

    Jason would likee your thoughts on the ac200 max and the ac300 would like to use one of these for my wood shop and the biggest power usage is my wood lathe which is 13.5 amps or 1620 w.

  • @Sandro667386
    @Sandro667386 Před 11 měsíci

    pressed like before watching)

  • @AskIveSolar
    @AskIveSolar Před rokem

    Great video idea for the culture!! :)

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +1

      Thanks Ive! I get asked about these models and their differences so frequently!

  • @rthomsonvw
    @rthomsonvw Před 3 měsíci

    Picked up the AC200P refurbished full warranty for 599! Looking forward to playing with it!

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 3 měsíci +1

      That's a great price!

    • @rthomsonvw
      @rthomsonvw Před 3 měsíci

      @@Jasonoid Thanks to your code! Amazed that it worked!!!

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 3 měsíci

      Really? Haha glad to hear it's still active!

    • @rthomsonvw
      @rthomsonvw Před 3 měsíci

      @@Jasonoid Yep, it was on the maxoak site. I was just trying a bunch of codes and bam 599. I couldn't checkout fast enough. I tried it right after to test and it still worked but after a couple days no dice... Should be here Monday along with a refurbed pv350 @ $489! Hopefully these hold up..

    • @rthomsonvw
      @rthomsonvw Před 3 měsíci

      @@Jasonoid Code seems to be working again for me if anyone wants to try!

  • @NatureZone101
    @NatureZone101 Před rokem +8

    Great video! Perfect to try to get my parents to look into stuff like this. However Bluetti has a major fail with their CS issues and I know for a fact my parents would never buy a product with lacking CS and betting that goes for many newbies entering the backup battery arena. Like you said, people spend a lot of money and expect / deserve good CS to stand behind products.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +3

      Check out Ecoflow, very similar spec but better customer service.

    • @NatureZone101
      @NatureZone101 Před rokem

      @@Jasonoid is there a specific model that matches up to these? Thanks!!

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +2

      @@NatureZone101 Delta Max (Lithium Ion batteries) or the Delta 2 (LFP batteries)

    • @NatureZone101
      @NatureZone101 Před rokem +2

      @@Jasonoid Just checked your chart and it says the Delta Max isn't LiFePO bummer. Going to watch your review on it now.

    • @NatureZone101
      @NatureZone101 Před rokem

      @@Jasonoid Thanks! Watching your reviews now.

  • @RedBatteryHead
    @RedBatteryHead Před rokem

    Thanks for the test.
    I could do with the EB in my Van Build. It's not easily available in EU. And pricing is not much lower than AC200max.
    So I think I still need to go for the max.
    It's €1849,00 in Germany. Free shipping into NL.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +1

      The AC200Max is probably worth buying if it just costs a little more in your area. You get quite a bit more efficiency and features on that model vs the EB200p and the AC200p. True expandability is also a plus.

    • @RedBatteryHead
      @RedBatteryHead Před rokem

      @@Jasonoid yes, I think so too.
      Maybe charge a larger pack for longer journey into less sunny areas.

  • @chrisk9351
    @chrisk9351 Před 4 měsíci

    Great job on the reviews and comparison! I have a question, I am currently looking at an AC200max and an Oupes Mega 2. Any suggestions on which one might be a better unit? Plan on getting one expansion battery with which ever one I go with. Thanks!

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I am currently testing the Oupes Mega 2. It's been performing good so far. I will have a full review in the next week or two on that model. You'll want to check it out for sure!

  • @sharpharmade
    @sharpharmade Před rokem +2

    Jason, sorry that I missed your LIVE! Excellent review between the three ... however, I just want to point out that the AC200P's capacity, as well as the solar, can be expanded by/with the B230, also, using the battery expansion cables ... (P090D-XT90, XT90-Aviation Plug). IDN if it will work with the EB200; although, I don't see why not, since they are so similarly built. #justsaying

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +1

      The AC200p and EB200p are kinda "expandable", but if you connect an external battery does not charge back up with the power station itself. You have to charge it on your own with a separate charger. That's why the AC200max is much easier to use. The discharging and charging of the whole system happens automatically.

    • @garytrawinski1843
      @garytrawinski1843 Před rokem +2

      @@Jasonoid I usually wait until my AC200P is at 100% then charge the B230 from the AC200P using the AC power brick. I live in Golden Valley, AZ where I get 292 solar days.

    • @sharpharmade
      @sharpharmade Před rokem +2

      @@Jasonoid No, I charge mine by having the special cable hooked up/connected to a/my B230, which is connected to a D050S, which is, in following, connected to my AC200/200P. The AC200/200P is charged up first, and, then, the B230 (is charged). You charge the B230 (via AC/solar with a D050S connected), which is connected to the AC200/200P ... where, then, the AC200/200P gets charged by the B230 first, followed by charging the B230. No separate/extra charger used/needed. How it works, and has been working, for me.

  • @augustave123
    @augustave123 Před rokem

    I cannot believe I watched your video from START to FINISH ... Unbelievable. I usually skip the videos lol.

  • @mchiovari8905
    @mchiovari8905 Před rokem

    Recently purchased an EB3A, had a question for tech support. Their phone number did change which was noted on the automated answering system. Called the next day and a customer service person answered fairly quickly and took care of the issue.

  • @feetachemail
    @feetachemail Před rokem

    I just got an AC200Max and I have the 3000Wh expansion battery arriving soon. I like the equipment but since I bought the thing I've been hearing one horror story after another about utter failure of the customer service system. I had a problem with the AC voltage fluctuating and tried the app system, phone and email and got no response from anyone. That problem seems to have gone away but frankly I'm now regretting having bought the system. I'm seriously considering selling the whole system at a loss because the total lack of customer support makes me afraid that if anything does go wrong I'm going to end up with thousands of dollars of broken equipment on my hands that I can't get repaired.

  • @francisdebriey3609
    @francisdebriey3609 Před 6 měsíci

    I have the AC200P and I am extremely satisfied except that it doesn't work when temparature is below 0° Celcius. I think it's the case for all 3. The "annoyance" of the AC200P is the power consumption when idle. My advice : buy the AC200Max

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 6 měsíci

      The AC200max is discounted quite a bit since they released the brand new AC200L

  • @krisk1547
    @krisk1547 Před 6 měsíci

    Now that's a good review. Not just unboxing like most reviews are 😂.
    200max is my first bluetti so i can't say anything about customer support but EcoFlow has great support.
    The worse company for any refunds or replacements is hand down dyson. Will never buy another product from them

  • @JustlifeTomSandraYordi

    I like the Max and the b230

  • @michaeljuers574
    @michaeljuers574 Před rokem +1

    All good fun watching all these tech reviews but some of you guys should review customer service and repair. I spent over a month trying to figure out how get my Bluetti repaired which had just gone out of warranty. After dozens of emails to Bluetti and MaxOak they offered absolutely NO options to repair my unit. Who on earth would buy something costing thousands of dollars when you can’t get the damn thing repaired in a couple of years.

  • @gwashburn39
    @gwashburn39 Před rokem +2

    Same issue here with Bluetti support. I still have not heard back from anybody!

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +1

      I hope they read the comments section to get this feedback!

  • @brothergeorge3412
    @brothergeorge3412 Před rokem

    My EB3A that I purchased at a great discounted Price also had a failure then I returned product through store purchased.

  • @Bwanar1
    @Bwanar1 Před rokem

    Any discounts for the expansion batteries?

  • @garymax992
    @garymax992 Před rokem

    Heck the big boys are the AC-300------ER 500 pro and the AC 500

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      I have reviews on those ones as well, I use the AC500 for my daily backup, but these are the most popular "portable" units haha

  • @Mo-gm5zm
    @Mo-gm5zm Před měsícem

    Hi Jason. Do you have a recommendation for a power station besides bluetti that has 30a dc out? Was looking at growatt 2200 but saw another video that pointed out some real problems with the unit. Thanx

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před měsícem

      The Pecron E1500LFP has a 30 amp DC out. The Oupes Mega 2 does as well. Same with the Ugreen 2200. Not a ton of options but there are a few. You could also use the Bluetti D40 with the AC200L.

  • @MemphisMG86
    @MemphisMG86 Před rokem

    would really appreciate if you could show a small table after each test with the values! thank you

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      You can find tons of tracked data here on my website:
      jasonoid.com/powerstations/

  • @DutchK75
    @DutchK75 Před rokem

    Hmm I have the Millertech EB200 and I drew it down and was getting 1,720 to 1,740wh. But mine was drawn down from the 12v plug. 🤷‍♂️
    If I was buying again I'd go for the MAX.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +1

      The max does have a few extra features and a little more efficiency. Finding it on a decent sale would make it worth it.

  • @worldcomicsreview354
    @worldcomicsreview354 Před rokem

    I think that silent power supply on the AC200Max was because they couldn't get partsduring the pandemic, there was an apology note with my one (also notice the brick isn't branded Bluetti). It was normally supposed to come with the faster (and louder!) charger. I prefer the silence

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      Probably the case, I've see the AC200MAX come with the larger charger too!

  • @harryridley2714
    @harryridley2714 Před 11 měsíci

    Hi matey , would you recommend the max to power a very small off grid cabin with minimal appliances, great channel 👍🏼

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 11 měsíci +1

      The Bluetti AC200MAX will work well to power 120v devices, especially if you had a decent amount of solar connected. If you need to power 240v devices you'll need something bigger.

    • @harryridley2714
      @harryridley2714 Před 11 měsíci

      @@Jasonoid cheers matey , appreciate the feedback 👍🏼

  • @francoisg9154
    @francoisg9154 Před rokem

    Amazing video. I would like to know, how much percentage, for you, will you indicate for the BMS parameter SOC to have got a long life battery ?
    80% ?

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      Their metrics are usually based of a 80/20 depth of discharge curve.

    • @francoisg9154
      @francoisg9154 Před rokem

      @@Jasonoid Thanks. I would like a confirmation.

  • @nwlady1844
    @nwlady1844 Před 7 dny

    Thank you for this review!! Really helped me. Question... DC output from the 5521 barrel ports. There are two ports... is it possible to pull 10a from a single port or just 5 amps. 10amp being the total output of the two ports. thank you

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 7 dny

      10 amps from the cig port and barrel ports at the same time, so it's 10 amps total combined power.

    • @nwlady1844
      @nwlady1844 Před 7 dny

      @@Jasonoid yes, but can a pull 10amps from a single 5521 port?

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 7 dny

      @@nwlady1844 yes, I think so. (This video is super old so whatever I showed in the video 👍)

    • @nwlady1844
      @nwlady1844 Před 7 dny

      @@Jasonoid You didn't show or test this for the ac200max

  • @carbuff1313
    @carbuff1313 Před rokem

    For the ACMax...if one drains the unit itself of power and then connects a fully charged battery like the B230 or B300, will the unit operate to its full extent on the connected battery that is charged until that battery is then depleted?

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem

      When you connect up a battery to the AC200max it will "average" out the power from two batteries so I'm guessing it would show 50% capacity on the screen with the main battery at 0% and one expansion battery at 100%

  • @ivanlaboy
    @ivanlaboy Před rokem

    Hi Jason. A lot of people argue that these batteries should be charged only to 80% and discharge to 20% to prolong their lifespan. Is that correct or in this chemistry that is insignificant? Any clarification would be appreciated. Thanks!

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +3

      Since these are LFP with 3500 cycles I don't worry about the 80/20 rule too much. I keep them at 100% when charging them but I try not to discharge them all the way down to zero, usually 25% or higher. I think by the time it gets through 3500 cycles better tech will be out for cheaper.

  • @ivanlaboy
    @ivanlaboy Před rokem +1

    Jason I reported an issue with my eb3a unexpectedly shutting down indicating overload with only a 15W (modem) load connected. Reported the issue through the app on Nov 1, but except the confirmation email I haven’t received no other response from them. It seems they keep lacking an efficient customer support. 😬

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před rokem +2

      Someone recently posted that they have 2 people on the phones and 3 people doing email. Thats not enough for how big the company is getting!

  • @garytrawinski1843
    @garytrawinski1843 Před rokem +1

    The AC200Max is $1599 on Amazon right now.

  • @Sandro667386
    @Sandro667386 Před 11 měsíci

    Question, if you plug only into the expansion b300 battery and don’t have any input source to the ac200max, will it charge the entire system (ac200max + b300, connected together) ? The reason I ask is because I see many saying that when they charge primarily through the ac200max only, the b300 doesn’t reach 100% charge because the ac200max reached full charge first and stops all charges v input for safety, and so the b300 gets left behind. So I figured, what if you charge primarily from the expansion battery to overcome that problem. Appreciate any thoughts you have.

    • @Jasonoid
      @Jasonoid  Před 11 měsíci

      You can charge the B300 completely separate from the AC200max to get it full. It has its own built in solar charge controller. I haven't messed with that setup too much, but when I did, I never saw any weird things. Sorry I can't be of more help.

  • @jamespruett2849
    @jamespruett2849 Před rokem

    Like you I couldn't get in touch physically with support I had ordered a 2nd 120 solar panel hadn't heard a word about it being shipped after about 3 weeks so I sent them a email wondering how long g til it shipped,3 days later I received it by FedEx was shipped in a Amazon box so I'm guessing they where out but sent me one either from Amazon or one intended for Amazon,so I'm guessing they are listening.

  • @lucgauthier3201
    @lucgauthier3201 Před rokem

    I bought an ac200p 3 days ago and I realized it has an issue on my shipping address so I try and try several times to reach Bluetti to without any success. Because of that misfortune I give them only one fade star for their crapy service after sale. I will think twice next time before buying from them😢.