Queen Victoria's Childhood & Siblings
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Recently I had the pleasure of visiting Kensington Palace in London, where Queen Victoria was born and raised. Let’s explore the rooms where she spent her troubled youth, examine the harsh Kensington system under which she was reared, discover a few of her childhood joys and learn what transformed her into a Queen. We’ll also get to know her two half siblings, find out what became of them and what sort of relationship they had with their royal little sister.
Karl, Prince of Leiningen (1804-1856)
Princess Feodora of Leiningen (1807 - 23 September 1872)
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I actually love the irony of how the Kensington Method/System was supposed to break Victoria when it, in fact, made her stronger. The only thing that ever really broke Victoria was losing her beloved Albert.
Seems so logical that they would’ve had much more influence had they been kind and insured they she would want them to stay around.
I mean.... I deffo wouldn't say it made her stronger - In fact it made her notoriously damaged and flawed.
I'm torn between empathy for what we would consequentially today identify as a personality disorder and trauma, vs. disapproval that she didn't want better for her own children....who she treat with such disdain and retaliation.
Even today, people have children without thoroughly contemplating whether they're fit enough. I can personally attest.
So true
@Alex-zs7gw
Both can be true.
Conroy’s influence was meant to create a weak timid personality who always deferred to her mother, who deferred to Conroy. Instead, Victoria developed an independent personality who could be persuaded against her own interests and what she believed to be right.
How dare Victoria and Conroy make a little girl question her intelligence. A child should be able to trust their parent. They shouldn't be belittled and bullied.
Victoria was just as bad or worse to her own children
I mean I bully my children but not like that. I also encourage their intelligence and will to learn
Yeah! It is the natural order of things for children to make the lives of their parents miserable, but it is a despicable thing for a parent to make the life of their child miserable.
@@cameronmoore2713 Children are difficult to raise, yes, but people know that going into it. If children are a misery maybe don't have them, or use the resources out there to figure out how to not let parenting be a misery.
Again, I'm not saying it's easy or fun process. No child should be made to feel they are hated in the one structure society provides to support them, family is supposed to be a support not a drain.
@@cameronmoore2713 Also if you remember what it feels like to be a child treated this way, why wouldn't you go out of your way to try and make sure that as a parent you don't treat them that way? Why resent the children You chose to have and then get mad they're resentful of you? It's not right, and I am sorry people in your life (children or not) made you feel that way (now and maybe then).
Am I the only one that finds Victoria's sister really interesting? At twelve she was dragged away from her home and seperated from her brother. Her stepdad was kind to her, but he died soon after. She became a victim to the Kensington system that revolved her golden-child sister.
Atleast it had a happy ending with her marrying a nice man.
True
Conroy really shot himself in the head with the Kensington system. He was the only male figure in Victoria's life, he could have easily slid into the father role for Victoria without much trouble as she wasn't even 1 year old to remember her father.
And then there's Feodora. She was much older, left when Victoria was still a child, and she had so much influence on her decades later, Victoria's children wrote to her so she can basically tell Victoria "I think this is dumb, you shouldn't be like this" and Victoria *listened*.
I am pretty sure William lived long enough for Victoria to make it to eighteen out of spite towards her mother.
In this alone he was absolutely correct. And actually did what was best for the kingdom.
1000%
Large part of the credit for it goes to wife Adelaide. She got him to sober up, exercise more and eat healthier during their marriage.
Never knew Edward was a good stepfather to Victoria's other children. That's sweet. 🥺
Merry Christmas, Lindsay 😊
I never knew Victoria had siblings. Thank you for this history lesson.
@@lilbatz I knew she had a sister but forgot abiut the brother
I’m glad we’re finally getting to learn about Victoria’s older half siblings. It’s known Victoria was close to her sister. She was even a bridesmaid in Feodora’s wedding.
i love that you're highlighting siblings of important monarchs!! could we get a video on henrietta of england??
Oh yeah, she was a wild one, love her!
Up until a few years ago I didn't even know that Queen Victoria had any siblings.
I’ve always heard that she had 2 half siblings, but no one ever mentioned them, so I thought they died young, like most young kids those days.
6:29 Carl actually stopped being a sovereign prince in 1806, when the principality was abolished. He was however, still the owner of many lands throughout Germany, topped by the beautiful Amorbach Abbey which the Leiningens still own today
10:24 Ernest Augustus may have actually been projecting. His own son became blind in one eye due to an illness in 1828 and lost sight in his other eye due to an accident in 1833. By starting rumours about the precarity of Victoria’s health, he may have been trying to distract from the potential incapacity of his own son (who actually turned out fine, marrying and having three children)
10:15 I think it’s supposed to be second husband here. Frederica was actually married thrice, and had children by all of her marriages. However, there nothing suspicious about the death of her first husband, Prince Louis Charles of Prussia in 1796, because he died of diphtheria. It’s her second husband Prince Frederick William of Solms-Braunfels that attracted notoriety, because Frederica was in the process of divorcing him so she could marry Ernest Augustus when he suddenly died in April 1814, removing the need and necessitating the Prince Regent’s begrudging consent to the match as he had no ground to oppose it.
That is really cool information thank you 😊 🙏
@@heindlwest It would’ve been nigh on impossible to get away with murdering your niece. It doesn’t help that we don’t actually know how much validity there was to the accusations against Ernest as he had many political enemies who had every reason to tarnish his reputation, as he was very active in the House of Lords. So I suppose we’ll never know
I think it’s really interesting that princess Eugenie named her sons August and Ernest.
@@ravenzyblack Funny enough, those names have nothing to do with previous Ernest Augustus’s in the royal family. August gets his name from Prince Albert (Victoria’s husband), who’s second given name was August, and Ernest gets his name from George V, who’s third given name was Ernest.
Victoria looked like a little baby doll as a child
The monarchy in the early 1800s before Victoria was pretty ridiculous. This added to Victoria's popularity, because she wasn't as bad as the ones that came before her. Most biographies of Victoria never mention these half siblings, making her out to be a lonely child locked up in a palace.
movies too...
Like Queen Elizabeth I, Queen Victoria proved that being a princess isn't all that's cracked up to be. Even a palace can be a prison.
I always thought she was an only child! I'm very happy to hear she had such a delightful relationship with her sister
An interesting fact is that the last surviving relative of Queen Victoria's generation was Arthur von Eppinghoven, son born out of wedlock by her loved uncle Leopold of Belgium and Arcadie Claret: He was born in 1852 and died in 1940 (at 88 years old) during the nazist occupation of Belgium, after a life of strong links with the Belgian royal family.
William IV cleared tf out of Duchess victoria with that line 😂 even I was having my timbers quite shivered 🥶
Not Jeff here. I always wondered what the reign of Queen Charlotte would have been like. By all accounts she was intelligent, generous, and open hearted. Also she was a bit hoydenish when young and not afraid to be unconventional. She and Leopold were deeply in love. Perhaps her reign would have been an era of social changes without the excesses of the Regency and the social rigidity of the later Victorian.
It would've been amazing to see a Carolinian era with her with the crown and her son as heir, but we have Charles now, so I guess there's our Carolinian era
She was NOT "Open hearted" LoL! Maybe as a child but not as an adult and she was a particularly awful, controlling and cold Mother. She treated her children horribly. She rarely saw them when they were children.
Charlotte died giving birth to her first child, who was stillborn. How could she had been awful mother, when she never had a living child? Are you by any change mixing Charlotte and Victoria here?
@@SlimKeith11 theyre talking about charlotte not victoria
@@SlimKeith11
Charlotte as princess of wales not Queen Charlotte as her grandmother
I think some of the paintings for little Victoria shown near were actually portraits of her daughters Vicky and Alice. In one of the portraits, the little girl holds a pocket watch-like object with a picture of what looks like Albert.
Thank God for young Victoria's strong, intelligent, compassionate & very loyal governess! Much admiration for her that she stood firm and didn't allow Conroy to bully her out of her protective position of the future Queen.
I know fedora from the Victoria series, and I also knew her mother married and has two children before her father, thanks for the story about her older siblings.
A video on royal governesses and tutors would be interesting
I’ve never really liked queen Vicky but she did have an interesting long life and her diaries are interesting. Often there is much information about the childhoods of monarchs especially those you were not the original heir.
Thank you for this wonderful episode.
I feel great compassion for poor Victoria who had to grow up under the cruel Kensington System and Conroy's bullying. However, what a magnificent and courageous queen she turned out to be. Human like us all who always tried and endeavoured 'to be good'.
I like reading about Victoria's relationships with her half-siblings. My grandpa also had 2 older half-siblings (who were 18 & 17 years his senior) from their mother's first marriage; however, my grandpa's relationship to his half-siblings were extremely distant for reasons I don't know. He did grow up knowing of their existence, but the relationships fluctuated year-by-year. My mom didn't know of them until she was already an adult. There were small reconciliations made, but there was still no strong relationship. My great-aunt was a guest at my parents wedding and my baptism, but she died shortly after; and my great-uncle died before I was born. My grandpa doesn't even have any pictures of them (that I know of), and all but 1 of his nephews have passed away; he also has no interest in reconnecting with that branch, and neither does my mom, even though I've matched with 2 of my half-2nd cousins on Ancestry. It's sad that my family was so disconnected, but there's really nothing that can be done now.
Yes, it happens so much, that many people do not know much about their heritage. It is fascinating to learn about family trees. I would love to step back in time to meet so many, and hear their life stories.
Victoria had to fight for some semblance of self determination all her young life and she did not waste her time on fripperies. By the time she ascended the throne she was a seasonned warrior with a plan.
I loved how loyal Victoria and Feodora were to each other! Imagine if Feodora had been queen before Victoria, could that have changed something? . . .
I'm sorry, I just have to say that court painters really were the Snapchat filters of their day 😂 Knowing what Victoria and Albert actually looked like vs. How they were portrayed in paintings makes me laugh every time 😂😂
To be honest, Albert’s paintings were accurate. He was very handsome, great body and tall if you see photographs of him as a young man. There’s around two or three floating around the internet. People often commented about his good looks in letters as well. The only thing was he aged very quickly due to being sickly, so he lost his looks at an early age (around mid 30s). People commented on that too. How he looked much older than his age, once he started approaching his 40s. That was probably because he was basically slowly dying at that point. I agree that Victoria wasn’t much of a looker though and her paintings were flattering.
Because photographs of a 50-year-old woman who had borne nine children without competent medical care are so very likely to represent exactly what she looked like at nineteen. 🙄
@mehere8299 There are actually numerous photographs of her from even when she was young. The first ever photograph of Victoria was taken when she was 23. Her paintings portray her to look like a cherubic, fairytale princess's but in reality.... she clearly wasn't.
Queen Victoria def had RBF lol so I don’t blame the court painters for giving her a softer look, they got her bone structure and chubby cheeks right usually though
Rbf?
Seen my workplace there for a brief moment. I work as a tour guide at Ehrenburg Palace in Coburg 😊 Thus I enjoy your videos very much.
Nice one I never even knew Victoria had siblings and I thought I had watched all the history videos imaginable.
12:12 is actually a picture of Louise(a), Victoria's daughter. Just for reference!
I was wondering why that hair looked so distinctly 1840's lol
Her first name was a lot prettier imo. Georgiana in general is a beautiful name. Thank you Lindsay!❤
Her live would made a perfect soap opera or telenovela
Your video made me rewatch 'The Young Victoria' movie, it's amazing that it's so accurate to what you've explained 👏
And here I thought Victoria was an only child.
I had a childhood similar to Queen Victoria, it was lonely and I'm always paranoid....😅😅😅
Unfortunately, it was the normal perspective at the time that the right way to parent children was to install genuine fear into them. They believed that was what made children good, respectable God-fearing Christians. Never give then room or an opportunity to make a single mistake that may not only ruin their lives but send them to hell for all eternity. That's what, and still, what some people, believe about raising children. Unfortunately, some people and current trends have taking it too far the other way. Giving children no rules, no standards, no boundaries, no morals, no protection. I've been working with children for most of my life and finally about to become a parent myself. I don't believe in being drill sergeant strict with no exceptions, but I don't believe in being loosey goosey either. I have to protect my children from unnecessary things, but I can't shelter my child either. I can teach my child right and wrong and about Jesus, but I can't expect my child to so-called perfect. I do want my child to develop his or her own mind and own person, while hopefully knowing right and wrong, which isn't always black and right, even from person to person. I want my child to behave well and not give teachers and others too much grief (good luck on that one), but I also don't want my child to be robot oriented and be easily mowed over by others. There's a perfect balance to everything. We're going to make mistakes as parents, but we can learn from those mistakes and learn how to work together as a family, just like our families do. Love, guidance, some discipline, support, and respect are the basics.
I visited Kensington Palace in December 2019 and thoroughly enjoyed the tour as you did. Loved seeing your footage of you walking thru the rooms. One of my favorite moments was seeing her diamond and emerald tiara on display that Albert gifted to her, seeing it in person was priceless. This video was fantastic, as I knew about the Kensington System but didn’t know much about her older siblings. Great job!!!
I can not imagine having the hots for my first cousin, many of them are like my brothers.
Thanks I did not know that she had anyone else. It is good to know at least for part of her
youth she had others around even if older than her. Enjoy the Holidays.🎉🎊🎉🎊🎉🎊
I would love to see a series about her childhood. I’d definitely enjoy it
I generally really like ITV's show Victoria, but on the third season they decided to present Feodora as a cartoon villain that resented her sister and made everything in her power to ruin her marriage and relationships with her children. It was pretty painful to watch because it didn't serve any real purpose, and I didn't understand why show yet another tumoltuous relationship of Victoria with a family member, since this one was so good and healthy in real life.
According to that TV series Victoria, her nickname was Drina
Is it me or does conroy looks like Mr. Wickham from the BBC Pride and Prejudice version
I'm a flight attendant and they changed our layover hotel to one that's at the end of the park from Kensington! So I'm probably going to pick up a LHR to visit !
i feel that Conroy was the reason behind Victoria's later treatment of Ireland, but thats just me
Nah that’s just a British thing
stop talking nonsense. What treatment of Ireland?
@@glen7318 the famine, obviously
I'm like mildly anti-monarchist but I find your voice really soothing for my anxiety so now I know a LOT about royalty. Also thanks for making all the inclusive videos.
Same boat! I hate monarchies in general and especially the UK’s but I’m a huge history buff 😭
Hey Lindsey! How about a video on Feodora’s female descents including the Kings of Sweden and Spain? What do you think caused those relationships?
Great video Lindsay :) I was very lucky to attend an event at Frogmore, Queen Victoria's Mother's mausoleum is stunning
Poor Adelaide, can't imagine losing al those children. 😢
Considering Earnst Augustus likely r4ped his sister Sophia (my name!) they were right to protect her from him, and the harsh Kensington method likely did keep little Victoria safe, but it was terrible nonetheless.
This makes me wonder what his son was like
It may have kept her safe, but at the cost of her mental and social health deteriorating.
I looove your videos! I always learn more, Queen Victoria life is really interesting!
Are you saying Princess Victoria of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld lived more than 40 years in the United Kingdom and never learned English? 🧐 🤔
Yes. According to The Royal Diaries Victoria May Blossom of Brittania England, 1829, her mother really struggled with her English, if she learned it at all. Sir John Conroy, Victoria's father's comptroller, would roar at Victoria's mum for speaking German and not English.
The picture at 18:45 is a spitting image of Princess Beatrice
Another Awesome Video as I CANT wait to know about Queen’s Siblings
Hope you had an amazing Christmas lindsay! This is a great late gift! You're amazing! 🎅🎅🎅🎁🎁🎁🎄🎄🎄🎄
Thank you for the videos of the British family. They are my favorite
Your videos are always so well written and presented, love them
I love learning about British history
Wow !! I didn't knew that queen Victoria had half brothers!!! Like always i love your videos!!! Hugs from San Francisco California
Love English/British history and your videos on it are my favorites! Victoria loved her sister dearly and one of her youngest daughters (beatrice) names was feodore in her honor.🇯🇪🇯🇪🇯🇪🇯🇪🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧❤❤❤
Great video. I enjoyed listening on my way home from work.
Thank-you Lindsay. This is an interesting, informative & exceptional video!
Outstanding ~ as usual! Thanks so very much. So interesting.
Queens of the World requests
Mihrimah Sultana
Charlotte of Wales (not the current one)
Amonute
Maire Laveau, Voodoo queen of New Orleans (spooky video for Halloween maybe?)
Make a video about Vitoria's friendship with Maria II from Portugal
Love this . I am a decedent and love family history. ❤ Thank you for sharing.
Happy Holidays,Miss Holiday! I really like it. Thank you❤
Victoria look just like her father
Amazing video as always! You're an inspiration and a master story teller! I swear that i could hear you talk about paint drying and still be entertained! Keep going! You're the Best!😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤
If anything, Conroy got off easy. Queen Victoria could have easily have sentenced him to death for all the pain and suffering she went through at the hands of him and her mother. And it's not just the abuse she endured, it was the money laundering he did towards the Royal family.
Yes, he was a pos. He stole money from queen Victoria's elderly aunt, princess Sophia.
No
He knew too much. He was essentially bribed with another knighthood and an annuity to keep quiet.
dont talk such absolute rot.
Well said
Queen Margethe II of Denmark will abdicate on the 14th of January.
merry christmas, ms. lindsay! thanks for putting out this informative video even during the holidays :3 💟
Simply excellent, I learned so much from your teaching. Thank you.
Wonderful documentary know a fair bit about Victoria but learned a lot here thank you
OMG I love this channel soo much!!
Actually got a notification for a new video for once!
Hope you had a good holiday! 🎄❤️💚
A truly amazing story.
Being a mother of two healthy children made Victoria's mother a very interesting bride for a man who needed to sire an heir.
She had proven that she could conceive and survive giving birth twice and her children were healthy enough to survive infancy and early childhood.
I feel like I have just been hit by the Mandela Effect. I have NEVER heard of Victoria's brother and sister in any movie, tv series or documentary. Wtf?
Feodora was actually in the TV series.
Great video!
Sorrows, sorrows, prayers
I would like to know more of the funerals of the Monarchs that weren't well loved. Like the Georges, William IV his brothers and the minor royals, like Victoria and Albert's extended family. Fascinating to hear of their lives, but also fascinating to hear of their send off's.
love your videos, from the uk
Brilliant! Thank you…
This is much more about Victoria than her siblings.
Few might know that Victoria's grandson Kaiser Willhelm II married Feodora's granddaughter Auguste Victoria, making them secon-cousins.
And their descendant (granddaughter, Frederika) became mother of King Constantine [of Greece], his sister Queen Sophia of Spain, and princess Irene (unm.).
59 seconds ago? I've never been this early 😂😂 so excited for another video ❤
Another wonderful video Lindsay! Your British monarchy videos always hit just the right spot for an anglophile monarchist such as myself
Merry Late Christmas! Ngl, Victoria has major only child energy😭
You would have thought that Victoria's mother knowing that her future would be in her daughter's hands, that she would have tried to be the best mother
Happy new year. Can you please do a video on Cleopatra?
Hello Lindsay, i learned something new today about Queen Victoria’s Half sister. What are your main sources for each vidéo? Merry chrismas and enjoy the last day’s of the year.🎉
Can you do a video on Queen Margrethe of Denmark’s family please? And maybe more videos on Black American or black European history
27:12 as a texan of german descent whose family has been in the state for ~200 years this is very interesting to me
I feel really sorry for the daughters of George III. Locked up in ‘the nunnery’ and not allowed to marry or do follow whatever other paths their lives may have taken.
From Victoria's mother's first marriage from Germany.
Happy new year 2024 to you. 😊
I seriously want the producers and writers of The Crown to make a prequel about Queen Victoria and King Edward VII. I know there's a series called Victoria, but it didn't really speak to me. It was really bland, and Jenna Colman lacked charisma. Hope that they make it someday.
I miss Victoria. So mad they canceled it.
There was a 13-part series from the 70s titled Edward VII. Worth watching, and may still be on CZcams
I agree, and I feel like Jenna Colman was a terrible choice to portray Victoria, considering she looks absolutely nothing like her. Victoria had pretty distinct facial features, and it can't have been that hard to find a good actress who at least somewhat resembles her.
@@kendracrispin5327 That one focuses more on Edward rather then Victoria, Victoria just seemed overly grouchy in that series when in reality she wasn't *that* miserable.
BBC miniseries Edward VII is fantastic! It’s a 1970s gem but great nonetheless 👍🏼
Lindsay, I love mostly all of your video so much ❤ could you make a video about royal assassination. Most royal around the world either europe or asia ahve experience assassination
Oh, family drama!
Very much liked this video. Hints of ITV's Victoria in there yet rebuffs some of historical flaws of that series (no matter how fascinating that series was, historical flaws a doozy) such as Feodora's relations with British royals like Victoria. If possible could you do another video on love interests of Victoria before she married. Aware of Alexander of the Netherlands a might and bit of crush with then Tsarevich Alexander Nikolayevich (later Alexander II of Russia), and that future Christian IX once dressed to impress for her coronation, but who were others considered besides these men and Albert? What did she think of these men in her youth and relations with them in later years?