Men Are More Emotional Than Women | The Joe Budden Podcast
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Anger isn't counted as an emotion for some reason. But it is.. just for that alone men are super emotional.
Rory brought up a great point, the fact that A LOT of men, especially in America are brought up by their mothers in single parent households influence their emotional development. More than we actually realise, there's studies upon studies about this and how young men and boys behave when they're raised in a single parent household. Everything from their education to criminal activity because significantly worse if a father is not in the household.
@Andrew Evans Everybody knows but yet it still remains an issue. It's good Rory brought up because at first listening to the video, maybe Rory thought Mal was dismissing this
That's common sense. Mal is just a dumbass simpin mommas boy.
I don't agree, I used to think this until I realized that we are taught NOT to be emotional, or that showing too much emotion is a sign of weakness. Yes there are studies that show a single parent household is worse in a 2 parent household however, that is for a single parent. In other words, just one parent. That's the real issue the studies demonstrate, not just because dad isn't there. I think you're accidentally framing it incorrectly. Perhaps granted men are more likely to leave a woman as a single mother. After all The Temptations said, PAPA was the rolling stone, not Mama.
I think we do not, at least from the social perspective, have the understanding of the range of our emotions; at the least not like women do. So the lesson that Rory is saying "men need to teach other men" is somewhat flawed Because we still, for the most part, lack that emotional education. Men are told, usually, not to display that range of emotions or worse, suppress it. you can see it in some of the comments. Meanwhile, women are allowed that space to explore that range and learn to control it better because they are nurtured to embrace it. Now, whether they do or not, much like men, is another thing but the taboo of exploration isn't really there, it almost seems expected. I was raised by a single mother, and she was gangster as fuck but never made me feel like a bitch about being sad, scared, elated, in love, etc. Whenever I felt my manhood ever really questions by her growing up was when I skirted responsibility or failed to uphold my word. (something ultimately universal regardless of sex) A majority of the time I've ever seen and/or experienced a man getting bitched out about being emotional has come more from men, as well as women that are indoctrinated into thinking "that isn't what a man is supposed to be". We have "allowed moments" of unfettered emotions, such as birth of a child, death of a family member, etc.
Mal is getting heat but everyone is forgetting the shit he gave Joe for wanting to be sad over a break up for longer than 10 days, for a woman who had his child mind you. Real shit, Mr. Rogers understood that men are not properly taught proper emotional management, he said so himself in front of congress 50 years ago!!! (you can search the testimony it's crazy) We have come a long long way and that's amazing because now people get clowned for trashing a man trying to be a father but I think we still don't truly understand our emotional potential. This is something that will take GENERATIONS. We are on the right track, which is hopeful.
@@MarceloAbans Really well said brother
And it will continue to "remain an issue" as long as there are irresponsible men & women with high hopes, willing to sleep with them unprotected...
Joe’s right, Mal never explains his point, just keeps repeating it lmao
Mal never knows what he’s talking about.
I think he’s just repeating a take he heard but doesn’t remember why it makes sense
An emotional man is a dangerous individual not only to other but to himself as well
Facts
Webster Kollie that’s deep I heard that before
A emotional person ,not just man .
so wrong omg.. emotional men make the best husbands. toxic men dont.
No, a man - anyone - who can't control their own behavior to the extent of violence or abuse is dangerous. Being emotional isn't. There's a huge difference.
I never want advice from mal lol
Nah he’s an 8 bro
Hahaha why not!?
Jayy C EVER!!
Weird
Like ever
Guys definitely don't catch feelings as quick or as often, but when they do it's authentic.
Well...youre right about 1 thing
@@greenmatrix30seven authentic? Yeah.
Yes...although some would argue that women catch feelings quickly or often. “ I fell in love right away”. You see more women say those things more than men. There are exceptions of course but...well yk what I mean
They can forsure catch them around the same time as the girl
Im exactly the same way. I rarely catch feelings. So rare I honestly thought something was wrong with me. Within an 11 year span, I fell in love once. When I do fall though, i fall hard, but it rarely ever happens. I remember an ex thought I had an emotional disorder because I was so detached lol
Joe getting back a Mal for that Cyn talkin sexy comment 😂
Joe: "now let mal explain his point instead of repeating it"
LMAOO
Men are emotional , they just don’t call it that, people just call it wilding out or being angry, whereas for women they called emotional in a demeaning sense, both genders regardless are emotional , EVERYONE has emotions period. And it’s a weird double thing for men where they say they aren’t allowed to be emotional but when they do get emotional it’s called everything but emotional.
You won a thread!
@@edwardmaster9183 you obviously didn’t get it lol
@@TT-xz5sy I misread the comment 😔
Men are so emotional, and even more so than women imo. It’s just when they get angry and go aggro they aren’t called “emotional”.
No anger is just one emotion, and still men cant afford to be as emotional as women. Society does not tolerate it.
Mal is wrong, but at least he thinks he's right for the right reason. Truth is the gap has closed between men and women in that regard. Joe's even brought it up a few times now, but when you look at how people thought Men should act a decade ago vs 2019 the perception has changed dramatically and more men are speaking out/being more emotional than ever before for better or worse.
Sammy Bissett facts lol thanks for saving me the time of typing this
Shit, you're generalizing. Most if not all the men I know in my life aren't like that AT ALL. We're strong physically and emotionally for our women. When I see people being overly emotional and holding grudges, my natural reaction is to tell you you're acting like a fukin female. So I disagree, maybe up north yall feminine but not down south, we know WHY we have to be strong for our families and kin. Oh and just bc the media portrays men as weak in 2019 DOESN'T make men weak in 2019 👍 it's called narrative dude.
@@mackdaddypeypey1 str8 up, the media makes men look like dumbies and every female a genius feminist when the truth is the majority of people in both genders are tired of that portrayal
Peyton G It’s toxic af to think a man has to bury his emotions to be strong.
@@Kanza535 who said anything about burying feelings? You're assuming. REAL men don't have to bury feelings, they're in control of their feelings and mature enough to let shit that's not worth it go. REAL men, that is.
i think that men that grow up with both their parents have a better balance hell if you were raised by your mom obviously you might be softer or learned how to not handle your emotions exc... Me missing my dad growing up i think i missed out on alot simply because that father figure i feel would have helped me alot emotionally especially expressing my self
Did your dad walk out or did ur mom keep u from him
On one hand we say men today are too emotional but on the other hand we have men complaining they aren’t allowed to open up.
What are we suppose to do here? Can’t win..
Everybody is a human being and everyone has emotions at the end of the day. Whether you let society tell you to bottle that up or you let it control you at the end of the day that’s on you.
Mal sounding like he don’t leave the crib lol
The problem is men try to be non emotional and not in touch with their emotions at all. It’s not good to be overly or under emotional. We are human. We are meant to feel our emotions and then deal, not being able to deal with your emotions, in a extreme way or in a way that doesn’t address it at all, does nothing for your overall being. So I do think men are just emotional as women, we just handle it differently.
some good points there
Someone paid too much attention in science class. Not everything has to do w/ estrogen and testosterone. Js.
@@greenmatrix30seven but emotions and aggression definitely does.
They play a part. But its more than just that
@@greenmatrix30seven Exactly. That's why the original comment also mentioned upbringing.
Women see the emotional characteristics in men and are turned off by it.
EEzt when used wrong. For example if he’s suddenly emotional when he feels like he’s about to lose a woman vs in the actual relationship that’s a turnoff and can be seen as manipulative. I just think everyone should focus on healthy expression.
EEzt this is factz
Exactly
Mal the type of guy to pillow-talk with women abt how much they hate guys
MAL just wear anything now days
When you don't have a father it cause a lot of emotional shit when it comes to women Mal is buggin....😒
Men are more emotional if they come from a single family household, as opposed to men who were raised by both parents. Coming from a single parent home, I was definitely emotional growing up, and it took me to know that it came from my upbringing to really tap into my masculinity and be less emotional.
Mal always dropping sucker knowledge like it's common sense.
“Yo pops was soft too” 😭Rory :” u grew up exactly like you were supposed to “😂
This is entirely true, and the guys denying it are still mad that they were left on read 👀
Its crazy how dads use to bounce and never come back and now days the baby mama makes life hell to see your kids for the dads.
I love it when y'all have these discussions!!
Mal constantly reveals why he ain't got a girl lol
Mal been wearing this same hobo fit since the LIVE show..
Yeah Mal definitely more emotional than any woman
It’s 50/50. Everyone’s perspective is totally relative. So no one can really determine who’s more or less.
You can definitely tell this bothered mal and he didn't have his pops in his life and he responded to this like alot of females and try act like joe said "ALL". The fact is its more men that are emotional from being raised by a single mother thats just a fact.
Most definitely he got angered which means hes super emotional
straight facts when mal said dudes with both parents are more emotional than dudes without em i tuned him out smh growing up the most hostile and angry dudes were the ones without dads
Maal is a whole mood, I Love him!!💖
We agree with this, men are the true romantics. But not all men have good emotional regulation or emotional intelligence.
In 2020 men are more emotional due to a gynocentric society. As men in 2020 we don't have the proper examples and structures necessary to create safe spaces for young boys and men. Most men in 2020 were also raised by their mothers.
MEN WHOSE FATHERS SHOWED THEM HOW TO HANDLE THEIR EMOTIONS TEND TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE LIFE SITUATION BETTER.
i know im months late, but Mal really had a point with "just because someone grew up with both parents doesnt mean they dad was great." I'm really glad fathers are stepping up and being parents even if they're co parenting. And so grateful you all touched on niggas calling they baby momma crazy and "not letting him see his kids" when a lot of the time it's niggas saying that to get out of being a father. Big ups for this segment
Why was this one of the first videos that came up when I looked up “joe budden Griselda” lmao i watched the whole thing waiting for them to bring up Benny 😂
Men & Women are different. I'm glad to hear that
Which is worse a toxic mother or a absent father? Yall aint ready for that doe. Lol 🤔👌🏾
Both are equally as emotionally damaging. One has you overcompensating your masculinity to validate identity and the other creates an unhealthy discontent for something thats supposed to be your equal opposite
@@JohnAnderson4610 you clearly grew up with both parents
A toxic mother still feeds you and keeps a roof under your head so anybody saying a toxic mother needs to stfu
Masked Savage doubt it, the abusive father would do it and use it has levearge. Thats why “absuive” is the term in the picture. A toxic mother is the worst bro. Some of my broa wo grew up with that shit it was a war zone every dayz toxi mothers would kick u out, change the locks on the doors, steal from u, lie on u, and kick u out for a stranger (male) seen this shit happen.
An absent father is toxic by default. A similar question was raised "is a narcissistic mother worse than an absent father"?. Absence doesn't doesn't make one void or exempt of being toxic or narcissistic.
Absent father (unless they died, or are in the hospital sick, on tour with the military or something) is neglectful, unemotionally unavailable, etc. These traits are found in abusive people. Abusive people are considered toxic.
To my other point (which is connected), a narcissist doesn't have to be present to have a negative impact on someone. Similarly to a toxic person. Either of these people who have problematic behaviors, thinking patterns, and communication styles (etc) have negative impacts on those they are close to daily and if they're absent.
The absence is the fkd up narcissist and toxic behavior. Especially if they pop up every now and again because they never effectively address their absence or the impact it has on the kids. They make it seem normal, justified, etc.
That's toxic and narcisstic.
On the flip side, while a mother is referred to as toxic or narcisstic, said mothers have times wheh they're good. There are days when the toxic and narcisstic traits and patterns are not causing major problems. In fact, there are great days and great experiences. This doesn't negate the bad ones or excuse the shitty times, but it is something that requires recognition in this conversation.
Why ?
Because all things considered, the good experiences children will have with their toxic and narcissistic mother will never be experienced (at the same volume) as an absent father.
It's not possible.
So when we think of things like holidays, birthdays, graduations and other milestones in a child's life and vacations and support at school games and concerts... trips to the doctor, dentist, heart breaks and other difficult situations, a toxic and narcisstic mother will be more emotionally available and helpful (overall) than the parent who isn't there. Who's absence likely pops in and invades that child's mind on a conscious and subconscious level. Even if the mom doesn't akways have it all the way together.
A toxic and narcissistic mother may not always be noticeably toxic and narcissistic to outsiders, as well. People may rarely ask a child "to, what's up with your mom... She's acting off".
But, a child will have the question asked "where's your dad", directly or indirectly, and will be reminded in various ways of his absence. Especially during those times when mom is there (whether she's having an episode or not).
I see so many absent fathers and stand back and watch how they move through life neglecting their responsibility to their kids.
How could anyone say that is less problematic than a mother trying to uphold her responsibilities even if she's not perfect at. Toxic and narcisstic people, this includes absent and present parents, have mental illness yet one is taking responsibility and the other isn't. Both will cause their children pain but one is there on the good days and the shitty ones. The other isn't.
That needs validation.
Well, I mean this is the age-old thing of processing what bothers you in a healthy way vs bottling it. Being emotional in what way? In detoxing and recalibrating yourself to be healthier? Or suppressing the anger you have and punching holes in the wall and listening to angry music because you glorify being edgy and toxic? lol
People born in the mid 80’s are the first wave of men were the vast majorities had no strong father figure and the statistics will show the negative effects that has had. Something high in testosterone and reacting off emotion and not logic like a woman is a time bomb!
@Lillel thats nonsense....women dont kill over relationships cos there less violent in general.
@Lillel "have a degree in medicine"😂😂😂😂😂😂so?
@lamar rose even so called wrong guys they pick want to be there for there children,they just dont want to be in a committed relationship with the mother cos 9/10 he wasnt in 1 with her before she got pregnant.then wen that happens they make it a nightmare for the man to see his child n poison the child against his father..
women have no1 to blame but themselves for being single mothers.
if they wer getting pregnant by men they was in committed long term relationships with they wouldnt have this problem but instead they getting pregnant by guys theyve known for 6 months or guys they met on facebook or i.g.
Women decide wat men become fathers and men decide wat women become wives.
Look at how emotional all the men get in the comments because of another man’s opinion / experience lmaooo
You can't judge emotions in a comments section. Mal is just saying stuff for attention. Men cannot be emotional like women. And not having a father is a key reason a man might be more emotional, he is way off.
brianroyal1 But It Is True Men Are Emotional When It Comes To Women. And Also Jealous
@@hndrxx5339 he said men are more emotional than women. There is no evidence that supports that.
When Mal said I’m too old to be hanging around men who don’t take care of their kids... wish more men was that way
Joe was like "Dont do it, dont do it" -- but Mal *did it*
On this topic, read the “The Rational Male” by Rollo Tomassi.
Mal’s take on this was crazy 😂
David Hardison it’s crazy that mal thinks he’s right 😂🤣
as usual
I understand Mal so much as a woman. I just can tell he knows a lot of people on an intimate level
“Ya daddy was a sucka you a sucka too” hahahahaha
This comment section is a hell hole of outdated ideologies. Yikes!
This was on point. I have to agree.
Question: By saying both parents do you also consider step-parents?
Yes step fathers count too, I had my dad, step father and all of my uncles
"Look at Mal tryna get the Drake line off...
Men talk more than women these days."
Rory funny asf 😂
Mal must be the most lvl 1 thinker ever lol crazy this guy judges the world from the lens of watching celebrity relationships...
I know men who had both and they are EMOTIONAL AS FUCK. EVERYTHING HURTS THEM. They only show it to a small amount of people.
Mal's shoes are killing me
My fiance is dominican/puerto rican and he was raised by both of his parents and he is way more emotional than I am and I love it because his love is authentic. he will do anything for me even when hes upset with me. he cooks for me and he takes care of our son really well. he took EMT classed just to learn how to take care of our son if there was an emergency. my man is a great man, emotional and all. he cries over love. I love that shit!
I don't think women judge emotion correctly to make that observation. The simple fact women are allowed to get away with so much shit means y'all are far more emotional than men.
I never even realized there was a door over there until they left it open.
Y’all are in NY.... those women are colder than the winters there 💀 ❄️❄️❄️ 😂
My point exactly. The fact that people say ‘women are more emotional’ thus suggesting that anything a man says is true & logical but anything a woman says is emotional is sexist in & of itself.
My father raised me on his own and now I'm raising my child on my own! With A LOT of help from my father to help raise my child the best way possible!
Like, if you mean who's more outwardly emotional? But I'm not even buying into the premise men and women come out the womb a certain, they learn a lot of behaviour. But if you're talking within that community of thought? Men bottle stuff under the surface and women, in what's more healthy imo, vent and process stuff. But that's specific to that environment. It's not like that globally by default, you learn to be a type of person.
Interesting discussion! I think it depends on your upbringing and the type of energy a man is raised with.
@7:08 😂😂 Rory
LMAO this comment section is full of emotional dudes.. Mal is correct
Mal is right so fucking much.
This is the internet. This is where the lames come to congregate.
That’s so crazy if I think of my 10 closest friends ONE of them have parents that are still together. The rest (including mine) have parents that are separated..wack
These are big facts 😂😂
"your pops was a bitch too" hahahaha
I think women just have more emotional strength through experience..men don't really deal with their emotions well. It's like it overwhelms them and they don't know how to process it...
That's why some men have crazy fits or do regrettable thirds Over cheating or break ups etc. They feel the same emotions but women are more experienced
i love these dudes!
5:51 whoa.....when did Meth say this about Joe?
It's a new breed of Women out here today & they (DGAF) have No Emotions!
I blame the GMOs 🤣.
Furthermore, I foresee the day that Joe outgrows the other guys is coming soon. Once I read the title I clicked to watch this video because I anticipate educated and inform discourse. To hear Mal speak about this topic in this manner left me wanting way more. Joe can still fly off the dome at times but he’s come a long way with adding thoughts of substance. Man... comon, y’all 😔
“Yo pops was a bitch too” 😂😂😂
🌻 went in
Why’s Mal wearin’ mitch match sneakers 👟 like it’s a vybe?
Generally speaking women are more emotional than men, but not all women are more emotional than all men
Covert Wolf define emotional and see if that don’t apply to men lmfaooo
amy Klick men are sensitive but not vulnerable. Women are EMOTIONAL
The further we stray from christ the more distorted && emotional men become.
It's is somewhat true, u have dudes in jail cause they pride been shot in a relationship or don't want their ex with someone else, but we do have a lot more stand up fathers
Joe is a crazy guy .😂
Ikr i♡it 😂😂
I'd say it's where you grew up and who you grew up with and the state of society in your zeitgeist.
The question isn’t are men emotion. You’re asking if men are MORE emotional. The answer is no...
I’ve been saying this for years. Men, especially us black men, are conditioned to where we cant show emotions about anything. Cant cry even if we’re mourning a death, cant express love in an affectionate way because its “bitch shit”, etc. We show some type of emotion to something & we have to stamp a “ no homo “ on it. I remember i was texting my guy why i was mad at a shady move he did & he wrote to me “ look at us typing paragraghs like we’re women”.. huh? Im typing what happen nigga!
Mal spoke some damn truth
If Nicki Minaj comes on the pod next week and says having a dad makes you less emotional, Mal's opinion will change.
It's entirely dependant on the community you're in and what rhythms and thoughts you're exposed to. There's not really "men" and "women" outside of what's been created in your community bubble. Gender behaviour in terms of handling emotions is not a universal thing, it's down to your community.
It does depend on your environment. However...there’s a lil bit more too it than just that
Lies
Shut up with your weird new generation thesis
@@greenmatrix30seven Oh, I'm not saying it's entirely a social construct, I think each person comes differently, but with most people I'd say it's where you grew up and who you grew up with and the state of society in your zeitgeist.
Ik that but...again...theres more to it than what you typed. Its not all estrogen and testosterone.
Mal is dealing with very limited research it depends on how you your parents are. The fruit dont fall too far from the tree. It's all about genetics. A majority of men will tell their sons say (and for those who dont have fathers your father figure) SON YOU CAN CRY LATER BUT WHEN YOU GET DONE CRYING OR WHATEVER RELEASE YOU NEED TO HAVE IN A WEEK OR TWO YOURE GONNA BE I. SOME OTHER GIRLS FACE CAUSE SON GUESS WHAT THAT SO CALL GIRLFRIEND YOU HAVE TRUST ME SHES IN SOMEBODY'S ELSES FACE TOO.Thats the first lesson of fuck these women I've ever learned and I've benefitted so much because of this Idgaf you know what time it is attitude. So depending on the father I can say confidently that 8 times out of 10 a father will teach his boy the right way about women vs their mother who'll be 2 times outta 10
Honestly. If it's a girl you really like. You can be very emotional when she dont kiss you or hug you or compliment you.
Men arent weak. They are powerful. Due to this they are tired of being tough and want someone they can be vulnerable with.
Someone where they can actually release a side they always had just never felt it was safe to expose.
If you got a dude who is vulnerable with you, he loves you. Dont fuck that up.
I got both my parents they been together for like 35years or sumthin I'm 32 now tho... me n my bestfriend actually.....but I really don't know alot of people who have that both they're parents like me n her tho🤔its a handful fr. N I agree with Mal about dads N there's alot of em out there I know one my BD its sad.... smh
You invite him over he gunna want ya pie
I want some hot wings but cant decide where to go. Who got the best wings yall?
Science has proven women to be more emotional than men, but men have feelings too
Single parenting and social media has turned dudes to an emotional mess.
Robert Drake cuz they get on social media and at catty like women. Arguing about gossip and bs.
Rory: Men talk more than women these days.
Me: he definitely doesn’t say “nigga” lol
And water is wet mal thanks for the hot take
Mal totally right. All you need for proof is the groups of nice guys and incels who can’t stand seeing a pretty girl with a “chad”
G’d up pops 😂😭
Men surprise people when they are emotional because they typically aren't but I feel like women are just emotional and people expect that.
Ooohhh pick me!!!!🤣 Thank you Mal!!!
Man. I be feeling Mals points
That must be the way NY dudes wear a skully the way Mal is wearing it
Mal is 1000% correct. I've witnessed this a many of times. Especially on IG.