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I've been playing for about 2 years and just realized that I need to completely reevaluate how I hold my bow. This is a good place to start.
Alexandra Rodriguez same for me😂
Me too haha, my teacher just corrected me and I’ve been wrong for 3 years 😭
I have been playing for 6 years, but im only 15 now. Ive been holding my bow wrong the whole time...
Wow!
Ditto for me
Can u believe, I've been doing that wrong for almost 5 years cause I was learning oriental music.. Now I changed to western music and it's very hard to change.. But its worth it.
I played all through middle and High school and this bow hold is so much more comfortable than how I’ve always held it. Thank you!
Wow i have practiced for one hour every day for almost one month and i am seeing an improvement in my bow hold and sound quality....practicing everyday does something magical indeed
You play the two best instruments in my opinion. Wish I would have played as a kid.
It's time to get off the tread mill and go practice this. Thank you for being a wonderful Teacher!
I found your tutorials here on you tube and have been using them to teach myself how to play the violin. A couple of months after I started I asked if I could play the violin of a violin instructor who happens to play at our church for a few minutes. She asked me a few question and said I must have a good instructor as she watched me play. I later learned that she was Anne Akiko Meyers first instructor. I'd say that is high praise for your tutorials. Good Job!
You have a very beautiful bow hold Allison! Nicely separated , natural and elegant! I REMEMBER MY 4TH GRADE VIOLIN TEACHER SAYING TO KEEP FINGERS SEPARATED. THATS ALL WELL AND GOOD BUT I THINK ITS MORE IMPORTANT TO RELAX, PLACE PINKY ON TOP AND EXTEND INDEX FINGER LIKE JOCHCHIM. IM PARTIAL TO FRANCO BELGIAN, BUT ALSO LIKE TOYING WITH RUSSIAN AS WELL.
Thank you very much!! Just started learning how to play violin and had some difficulties holding the bow so my hand wouldn't fall off in 5 mins. This video sortet it all out!! Thank you!!! :)
its fine you are supposed to loosen when it goes to bet=d and tighten when you play if of course. The screw can come all the way out, but just put it back in. Although when you take the screw out, the frog can come off the wood as nothing is holding it in so make sure when the frog goes back it is NOT TWISTED. The frog will move as you tighten it as it has to to tighten the string. I think all is well by what you say.
I am holding the bow like you, Belgium grip. I had a problem with my little finger slipping off when on top, so I was told to rest it off a bit on the side, and this has helped.
What a great teacher! Thank you!
I have watched well over a dozen videos and noticed that the finger placements (minus the thumb) are different in each. Moreover, the instructor nearly always will say "put your middle finger here" and within seconds his or her middle finger is somewhere else. Or they will say "keep your pinky curved" and then immediately show a perfectly straightened pinky on the bow. From all of this I conclude that, apart from putting some part of the end of the thumb in the gap between the frog and leather, the rest doesn't really matter except insofar as the thumb acts as a fulcrum and the hand can flex to do whatever it needs to do. I've given up on instruction. Ask 10 violinists how to hold the bow, and you get 10 different answers. You really do. You want another 10 different ways? Just ask 10 other violinists. So, the upshot here, I think, is to take Maestro Allison to heart when she says there is really no one way to hold the bow. How many bow holds are there, really? I would answer by asking how many violinists are out there.
+Jim Doe You took the words right out of my mouth!!
I actually made this video off the back of some very nasty comments I got saying that i didnt know how to hold the bow, I should learn that first before I start making videos bla bla bla, as people just dont get that there is indeed MORE THAN ONE WAY!! It drives me up the wall being told im wrong!! LOL
Basically as long as your thumb is in between the frog and ferrel and making sure your fingers are flexible and can move into any position, the sky is basically the limit!
The Online Piano and Violin Tutor they had obviously not seen the vids of yourself playing.
Boudiccaization Mcmuffin h
I believe you've mentioned over 30 years of playing and performing, and if you were criticized for your bowing hand position position, I find that crazy! I took one lesson over 30 years ago now, and the instructor was a lifelong concert violinist who showed me the exact same basic rules. There may be minor differences as people advance, and find the correct , 'ease of movement' position, for hand size, and personal preference. However, to begin with, people need to have a good sense of the position that will improve play,, and avoid producing squeaks and squawks. Later, you have made another videos showing how the hand flex is incorporated into smooth, advanced bowing technique. If students have developed bad habits early on, they'll never achieve the beautiful sound they seek.
I, personally, find that this position is excellent. Though I have control with my index finger, and my hand flexes naturally, I hardly feel as though I am holding the bow at all - or my hand is just a guide as my wrist movement stays subtle and smooth - and this is where that hand flexibility comes in and is SO important!
I think haters are a a measure of success. It can ONLY be driven by jealousy.
Jim Doe thank you I just started playing the bow and I'm having trouble with the Pinky and middle finger mine is also straight and my thumb doesn't go between the middle and ring finger, instead on the outside of the middle. Thx for this really helped
Hi Alison, just wanted to say, thank you! I thought I'd be so nervous, but you were so kind and friendly, it was like talking to a long lost friend, very comfortable! I'm practicing the open notes and my bow hold and will see in in about 3 weeks, I'll let you know exactly. You're the BEST!!
I know LOL.
Glad you enjoyed the lesson though :))
Thank you for the detailed demonstration! I started learning how to play violin 2 weeks ago on my own, and I have not been holding the bow right. Hope I get used to this cramp in my hand soon, awesome video!!
i think as long as you can still be able to do all the technical work with the bow, its fine. If its hindering you, then its not good.
Thank you so much for this beautiful beautiful video
Such a wonderful grip I am in love with it!
Thanks that was very detailed and useful. The thumb placement and bent shape in particular.
Hi there just wanted to say I absolutely adore you! :) I want to save up my money and buy a violin, I thought about enrolling here in Oklahoma to the Roy Clark Music School but.. I love the way you teach us how to hold the bow. It's perfect. :) It is so elegant! And not tooo confusing, lol :) You are a very good teacher & you really take time to show us beginners! It's not easy, but you seem to make it fun! Thank you so much! :)
Thank you.
But i'm having a problem, i get the fingers placed correctly, but as soon as i start playing, they get off position.
Any tips on keeping the fingers in place?
Stop and reposition them. Its life i afraid.
That also happens to me to! It's so annoying!!
Same here. I would have a correct bow hold and not even halfway through the song it's already moved
How to actually learn to play a song by yourself
I had that problem and I fixed it by playing with gravity and when I need to play forte I press a bit harder and go closer to the bridge and when I need to play piano I go closer to the finger board and I ever so slightly decrease the pressure
Yay that”s my way of holding it! And you are right! There are sooooooo many different styles of violin holds.... so many... some don’t even makes sense...
Today was my first lesson. Interview with instructor and first points,holding the bow. The bridge and to see if I could make a sound. She gave me a 3 note scale to practice. And in time I got home, how do you hold the bow? Allison your videos are great. I think first one i saw was on amazon demoting the ciellio or mendini violin, and to find you have others is nice. I'm sure ill be watching than as I become more discourage of my progress or lack. I do get easily discourage and there's probably an easier instrument to learn at 54, but my mind is an open blank book to be write on.My instructor seems nice and would love to smile with pride teaching me. She asked my goaon for what i expect in class. To make it through a few lessons before my violin has a collusion with my wall. But serious, tie be able to play some scales by end of year- 2 months.My violin is probably bottom of the line, as I didn't want to rent or spend a lot on something thatMay be a disaster.A Gibson-Baldwin. Music Education set, though I don't see them advertised anywhere- except used. Maybe A worthwhile investment till I decide on a better one.
I see you have lots of videos which may cover everything as questions arise. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Thank you for your tutorial. I've looked at a dozen videos on your explanation and video were the most useful in correcting my hold.
I think this is also what makes her class great Paulo. She really goes into the detail which helps a lot of people. Thanks Alison for this nice work ! I ll learn violin very soon, and I think your method is really great ( even though I ve no expertise in Violin ) I do have lot of practice in piano I hope this will help a bit :)
Just beginning.. glad I found you! ☺️
my pinky finger seems to do more work than the others,you did specify that is should "rest" but i feel as if that pinky is the one who actually holds my bow straight,and my wrist gets tired,is this normal?i am new to all this
Perhaps the rest of your bow hold is incorrect. I cant see your bow hold, so I cant be sure.
Post it on imgur.
I play with gravity so that my hand is rested
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Thank you for the video. Just starting to learn the violin, and this was a good place to start. I have only had time to touch the violin a handful of times since getting it last week, but I'm getting a few simple scales down. I play double bass and I think that's helped, but, WHEW! The violin is a BEAST! LOL. Really loving it so far tho, thanks for helping with the bow hold from a beginner!
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YOUR VIDEOS REALLY HELP ME!! I'm using your teachings on my viola so I can play better ^-^ thank u so much~
ur username omg. ARMY?!!
alison you are realy lovely since i watched your lesson,you became part of my life . you realy great and god gifted talent.i love you very much.
Your teaching videos are extremely useful and appreciated.Thank youHuda
At first you being out of focus was annoying but the payoff when you hold the bow close and it locks in focus was so satisfying. Oh and thanks for the great videos.
Oh my gosh, the one my teacher teached me it hurts! yours helped so thanks so much!!!!!!!
IAM a beginner on the violin your video r very helpful thank you
Wow, I am in awe of your skill and talent. Thanks for sharing it and so beautifully!
Thank You for this video and all of your videos . In honesty , I hate this bow hold . It hurts . But ,,,, it works for ALL of the strings and ALL positions . These are the basic , after the basics are learned you can always experiment but if you start playing badly , sounding bad or just need a rest ,,, you always go back to the basics . It does hurt ,,, but as you've said ,,, anything new you have to get adjusted to . Thank You again , for All that you do for all of us .
Should the pinkie be straight? When I do this, I frequently have a tendency of having the pinkie get "locked" straight so that it doesn't bend easily again. It feels like the bow is pivoting around my thumb and the weight of the bow gets supported by the pinkie. Once the bow is on the violin, part of this weight goes away, but the finger remains straight.
This helped me immensely! Thank you. I had a problem where my confidence of my bow hold was causing problem with intonation. Thank you again for your hard work!
hey alison very nice and keep it up i like it very much the way you r explaining with interest to teach, obviously you are a teacher
just keep doing this, forget about others you are more important for us, like me who are interested to learn and you look fab
thanks
Thanks teacher .
Ahh this is really helpful! I just got my violin yesterday & I was kinda having trouble with holding the bow because of my pinky hahah. Thank you for this ^^
hi alison you are realy lovely, since i watched your all video lesson i realized you are great and you are world beater.you became part of my life.i love you very much always.xxx
This video is very helpful! The style you use is beautiful and it's very comfortable to use :)
Thankyou Alison. What a wonderful video!! It has helped me a lot!!!
Thank so much! I found this lesson very helpful with improving my bow hold.
i love the violin :)
Thanks for helping me
Thanks you! You helped me so much, I take orchestra and I have a hard time getting things right. I missed a lesson of hold a bow. So, I go and was laughed at really bad (I ignored them, I could care less.) But, thank you!
yes of course it will - thats why there is no right or wrong way and also why there are hundreds of variations.
I'm sure the size of the players hand affects where the placement of the fingers on the bow will rest
thank you ! , this guide is really awesome !
kind if - it should be flexible. Make sure you are tilting your bow hand towards the index.
Thanks!
I started today!
I have been play violin for more than 2 years and over quarantine I just realized that I got into the habit if holding it wrong I need to relearn I feel so ashamed...
Facets? , thank you Allison, excellant@
Love u, thank u technique is verry nice
Thank you so much for teaching me how to hold my bow, I think you have a new sub
i love your videos!! your videos are so so helpful. I am learning how to play the violin
Thank you sooooo much for this vid. Really helpful!
Hi Alison. I'm 52 and have just started learning the violin. I've found your videos really helpful and informative. However, I have a problem with my little finger when I'm holding the bow. My finger is double jointed on the middle knuckle and locks into a straight position. Will this compromise my ability to use the bow later on, or is it OK to carry on bowing this way? Thanks very much.
My bow hold ti is bad
Your videos have motivated me to get started on playing the violin :D
Hello madame. I've just started my first violin lesson about 10 minutes ago, and I really need help about how to hold the bow correctly. My teacher basically said that there are three ways of holding and the style of holding it differently from yours. So here's how he taught me to hold the violin: thumb placed at the wooden piece between the pad and the frog, pointing finger at the silver-y thing, middle and ring fingers beside the thumb touching (different) and the little finger rests. Wrist to elbow straight/flat, loosened muscles. So it's kinda different, is this good or bad? Should I worry?
This one is not related to the video, but how much rosin should I apply to the bow (I forgot to ask my teacher)?
And I'd like to thank you for all the online lessons especially your friendliness, like really, you're really kind. I am also very happy that I saw your video about whether or not people are too old to play violins. And if I may, I would be delighted to see your response to this question and my further questions if you will to. Nevertheless, thank you.
Richard Wiwi I would do what your teacher says. I cant really comment as i cant see you plus I never like to interfere. If you trust your teacher knows what they are talking about (and we hope they do) then listen to them. Since i know nothing about what went on really, I cant comment. Applying rosin depends on how much/often you are playing. On average, weekly? Ask your teacher as again, since you are paying for lessons im reluctant to interfere with their process too much
The Online Piano and Violin Tutor I see. Well then, thank you for the response. It seems like I've been applying too much rosin that it starts to leave rosin residue on the strings of the violin.
Once again, thank you.
thanks love ♥
thanks a lot
Thanks for the help 😃😄
Funny how you are the most humble possible and still get 175 giving thumbs down 🙄
Cant please everyone....
@@TheOnlineViolinTutor BTW this video saved my hand. I was in pain holding the bow, this fixed it. Following your course too :)
Hello. Thank you for your videos, specially those of how to hold the bow and how to bow, I think technique is very important if you want to 'sound' good when playing. Getting to the point: I have noticed I am having problems with my left hand (even pain) and have no 'technique' on: (1) how to hold properly the violin, (2) reaching the right spot of the string avoiding over stretching my fingers, (3) press properly the strings so I can get the right tone.
I've been playing just for two months, but if you have a video on how to achieve a proper way to move/set the left hand, I would appreciate it. Thank you very much.
+J. Obando I dont have a video specifically targeting those issues as such, but I do explain all these issues within other videos - especially my beginner videos.
This also might be a good time to drop in and have a one-off lesson with a teacher to get you going with this and past this section as Its not something I could personally advise you on without seeing you. I do offer Skype lessons that can be one off, of you could find someone local to you.
Thank you so much for yoir videos! I appreciate it (i guess im not the only one)
I haven't actually learned the Violin yet, but the the Franco Belgium hold really works for me
I actually do a hybrid between the FB and Russian as a tilt more than you would with ththe FB alone.
I still can't get it D:< so frustrated
okay, I'll try to. I appreciate the reply.
well it shouldn't really hurt, so find a position thats comfortable for you whilst maintaining the proper grip.
i have been playing violin for 7 years and this helped me lol
Is there a order to watch your videos? Bought my daughter a violin for her birthday and will use your videos to help her learn. Thank you
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your vids are cool! my first bow lesson is starting!
i love your channel by the way :D
you have the perfect videos! thank you so much please keep going!
Many years ago, I was told to keep the thumb between the 2nd and 3rd fingers. However, as I play the 2nd finger tends to get opposite the 2nd finger.
Thos is the best video on how hold the bow. I must admit, i play my keyboards and guitar better than my violin. I cant reach the "g" string so i have to play it with my thumb.
You are a great
Thank you :) Your videos are helping me !
Hi Alison, my bow doesn't have the gap for the thumb, it's a cheap £70 violin. I can get the bow hold correct on a pencil but fail on this bow as I'm improvising what with it not having a gap. Is it because of this that I can't get it correct on the bow? I will be buying a new one soon Thanks
Boudiccaization Mcmuffin the bow will have a different weight (compared to a pencil)...so just keep readjusting!
Very helpful . Thank you
I feel more comfortable with what looks like a franco belgian bow grip except my pinky is slightly past the mother of pearl and my index is sort of in the middle of the metal part, is that considered okay?
Thanks for the advice!
thankyou =]
ive played violin since 2 and my teacher always had me put my thumb on the frog but now I don't and my playing has improved a lot
Thank you this is good basic advice. I can start out with the correct hold but as I play my middle and index finger want to ride up near the top of the bow. How can I stop this or is it ok? My sound isn't bad for a 2 year beginner
The Stentor 2 is the Stentor 1500 and the Stentor 1 is the Stentor 1400. Get the 1500 as its better than the 1400 for a little more money. I dont know why but in the UK they are 1 and 2 and USA is 1400 and 1500.
Thanks. .... I am also a violin student
keep up the good work!😄😄
i involve third finger more than second finger , it involves upper arm mustles and produces fuller sound . please try it .
Finally I can play the violin without the bow bouncing. Thank you
thank you so much
thank you kindly for this :-)
I am playing since 13 years now and my teacher this week just realized appalled, that my bow holding is so wrong, that I am completely unable to play spiccato.
But I´ve also got a problem, when I tried the bow hold you showed.
I´ve got pretty long fingers and tend to "flatten" my hand, so when I try to not curve my thumb as you showed I get curve in the knuckle below, where the thumb is just connected to the rest of the hand. I can´t remove this inner shifting by power, do you know how I can practice not to do this? It tends to put some tension into my hand, why I curved the whole thumb til now as being not as bad in stealing my free movement.
I am also a lefty, so I am missing a bit of strength in my right hand.
I cant really help in this instance im afraid as this is seomthing i would need to physically see.
I might be able to help
Lemme find a link
Hi,
Every time I hold my bow my thumb feels uncomfortable, and it gets dented/squished . I've had this problem for a long time. How much of the thumb are you supposed to fit between, as I can only fit a quarter when the bow is tighten normally. The bow is student quality that came as part of the outfit. I'm not too sure if the gap for my thumb is too small or if it's supposed be like that?
+Jayson Pearce-Hall It might be that the bow does not have that much of a gap, but as long as you are holding it there and not on the frog or the rubber/ferrerl part, you will have a correct hold. I only have the very finger tip, tip (if that makes sense) on the bow, so that my fingernail almost wedges up into the wood.
thanks for the videos
Hi Alison, I'm still having problems with this despite following all the advice. I'm double jointed especially around the thumb and I find it difficult to get a decent grip. And it's starting to hurt. Would you have any advice in this situation as I'm sure I'm not the only one?
Thank you very much now I can hold it correct do have littler problem with my pinkie put is ok it needs some prates
no, i have seen it many times before. Sometimes student just get a shaky bow and its not nerves, but the students i teach who have had that problem, its has disappeared now!
Hi, my little finger keeps slipping, is that normal? Your videos are really useful and well made, thank you
Perhaps you would try tilting a little more towards your index finger.
hi thank you for this vid im new to playing vilion and youhelped me by showi ng me how to hold a bow thank u !!!!