Making Penjing - Bonsai Landscape

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  • čas přidán 9. 04. 2020
  • In this video one of the Herons Team shows you how to make a Penjing Landscape, this one mimics an English country landscape.
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  • @bigspender107
    @bigspender107 Před 4 lety +359

    Tebo is an asset to the Herons team. Gave us excellent advice when we visited.
    Well done Peter for giving him some airtime. 👍

    • @peterchan3100
      @peterchan3100 Před 4 lety +93

      Tibor is very artistic. I will get him to do more landscape type compositions for our bonsai videos.

    • @jfarrell50
      @jfarrell50 Před 4 lety +18

      @@peterchan3100 Please do, I would love to see more like this.

    • @paulusmorales8678
      @paulusmorales8678 Před 4 lety +11

      Yes peter..please do some more of these..tibor was good because his master peter was very good..

    • @laytonsri150
      @laytonsri150 Před 4 lety +4

      I can't agree more, he also gave us excellent service and information on our first visit to herons, I'm looking forward to going back at some point 😁👍

    • @harryclark8320
      @harryclark8320 Před 2 lety

      I concur, Tibor is fantastic and so friendly every time I visit Heron's

  • @stevekneebone3802
    @stevekneebone3802 Před 4 lety +153

    Peter was trying hard to get Tebo to move the trees around for the “best” side. But I think Tebo had an idea in his head with the trees he had. Well done.

  • @Sparkalark
    @Sparkalark Před 4 lety +107

    If bonsai is a meticulous symphony, this style is funky jazz. Very different from one another, but both manifesting beauty in their own way.

    • @peterchan3100
      @peterchan3100 Před 4 lety +40

      Funny. you should say that because Tibor was a leader of a Punk Band - he is a very good musician and plays many instruments.

  • @G2nelson
    @G2nelson Před 4 lety +141

    I like this dude. Approve of him helping out!

  • @Hidinginyourcupboard
    @Hidinginyourcupboard Před 2 lety +49

    My son has wanted a bonsai for ages and we drove to Herons today to find a good beginner tree (they have so many!)
    We were priveleged to be assisted by Tibor who actually repotted our choice into an oval pot my son wanted. He made our already pretty beginner Ficus look like a prize winning display! Very memorable visit, thanks so much Tibor :D
    Wonderfully educational and friendly nursery making bonsai really accessible, highly recommended!

  • @DesertPunk00
    @DesertPunk00 Před 4 lety +157

    7:50 peter standing there like something out of a scary movie just staring 😂

    • @ThaAmjab
      @ThaAmjab Před 2 lety +8

      "what's Peter doing?"
      "he's just standing there. Menacingly."

    • @gemrosegardening4051
      @gemrosegardening4051 Před 2 lety +7

      I thought the exact same thing at this moment in the video and I started laughing. We love Peter!

  • @leowelling8304
    @leowelling8304 Před 4 lety +62

    That Guy is my new Hero Like to see more of his work

  • @nancyfahey7518
    @nancyfahey7518 Před 4 lety +66

    A friend at our bonsai club had an old toy chevy truck crashed into a tree in a landscape.
    Another was a little farm fence with a tire swing hanging from a "large" branch. It took the imagination to the old days when life was simple. Thank you for sharing your "main man" with us. Very nice.

    • @soberhippie
      @soberhippie Před 4 lety +4

      Now I want to make one with a little dumpster in a corner. Could pass as an ecological statement, probably.

  • @shankill178
    @shankill178 Před 4 lety +75

    Beautiful landscape. The guy obviously has loads of talent.

  • @robertbrandner
    @robertbrandner Před 4 lety +91

    "Illusion of depth!" This guy is like the Bob Ross of Bonsai :-)

    • @gregdrew5345
      @gregdrew5345 Před 4 lety +9

      Lots of " happy little trees"

    • @duskmoss
      @duskmoss Před 4 lety

      This was also said about Nigel Saunders

  • @xyanide1986
    @xyanide1986 Před 4 lety +42

    I really like how focused the guy is just in the process of creation. Peter keeps reminding him to talk haha. Very cool video. Just personal taste, I'd buy it without the fence in a heartbeat.

    • @regiodeurse6513
      @regiodeurse6513 Před 3 lety +1

      yes the fence size is out of proportion. without it the trees look bigger and nicer. the branch sizes turn to twigs compared to the much thicker fence posts. I also dislike the akadama. The bare soil mix looks much more natural in between the moss. Would prefer if he only highlighted that little path with akadama Edit:seeing it after it was wetted down the akadama looks okay though

    • @steffiec6805
      @steffiec6805 Před 3 lety +1

      Fairy garden lover here! 🙋‍♀️ the fence made me click the video, I love it so much! 🤣

    • @riam5429
      @riam5429 Před 2 lety +2

      The fence kind of spoiled it for me really
      It’s like getting in the way, the rest is perfect

  • @mingmingandmikki
    @mingmingandmikki Před 4 lety +11

    7:48 I just love how mr.Chan just stands there and watch this process from afar

  • @steveharris2944
    @steveharris2944 Před 4 lety +140

    When I visited Herons and spoke to this chap, I asked why he wasn't on any video's...... glad he's decided to showcase his talent as he was very knowledgeable and excelled at customer service. Keep it up!

    • @peterchan3100
      @peterchan3100 Před 4 lety +22

      He is a bit reserved and does not like to flaunt and show off.

    • @warrenholmar1129
      @warrenholmar1129 Před 3 lety +3

      I have seen him in some other videos. All the same very well done great effect

    • @ferstuck37
      @ferstuck37 Před 2 lety +2

      This is very well done and amazing how it all blends in, one thing that puzzles me is the leaves how do you maintain their size, or for that matter for any Bonsai plant.

  • @Old-Mad-Tom
    @Old-Mad-Tom Před 4 lety +86

    My favourite video so far. Let’s see the rest of the staff and what their duties entail.

    • @peterchan3100
      @peterchan3100 Před 4 lety +69

      All our staff have special skills. There are seven of them - One person you don't often see is my Office Manager/ CZcams Video Editor etc. Without her these videos would not be possible. She deserves special thanks for all these lovely videos.

    • @denisemac118
      @denisemac118 Před 4 lety +6

      I love all your videos they are so informative. My favorite is penjing and this is so beautiful! It is interesting how it all comes together.

    • @peterchan3100
      @peterchan3100 Před 4 lety +30

      Mind you - not all our staff like to be on CZcams. I have to respect their wishes too.

    • @lightningslim
      @lightningslim Před 4 lety +4

      "That looks very nice!" from Peter, is praise indeed! 😃

    • @tcsadt
      @tcsadt Před 3 lety +2

      peter chan it’s s testimony towards what you to teach and share

  • @bigz7315
    @bigz7315 Před 2 lety +6

    Love it plz allow tebo to show us much more of these he gave a perfect example of how to start doing landscapes!!!!

  • @simonclarke1556
    @simonclarke1556 Před 4 lety +37

    Nice to hear the thought process and for Peter to ask questions on why Teebo was doing certain things during the initial planning. Quality demonstration guys.

  • @soberhippie
    @soberhippie Před 4 lety +25

    The ancient British art of making model villages meets bonsai :) Great video and a great landscape!

    • @Gen3designs
      @Gen3designs Před 2 lety +4

      This is an Ancient Chinese Art. Japanese Bonsai was created from the idea of Chinese Penjing.

  • @jessegantt2370
    @jessegantt2370 Před 4 lety +5

    I really appreciate that you work outside the rigid standards of traditional bonsai and show how the every day hobbyist can make beautiful works of art that suit many different styles with less common materials, i love your videos and would enjoy seeing some more Penjing once in a while!

  • @melvyntoppo678
    @melvyntoppo678 Před 2 lety +3

    It seemed like I was watching a painting being made on a white canvas. Beautiful landscape made and the end result is worth wanting to own it. 🙏🙏
    Melvyn, from India.

  • @slamboy66
    @slamboy66 Před 4 lety +16

    It's like watching Rembrandt observing Pablo Picasso , 2 totally different mind sets .

  • @dcharrison3140
    @dcharrison3140 Před 4 lety +10

    Thank you Peter for showing the other workers their talent . I commend you on that.

  • @expandingknowledge8269
    @expandingknowledge8269 Před 4 lety +23

    Peter, your staff personnel are very talented. Please include more of his work ! Expanding Knowledge.

  • @brentjenkinsdesigns
    @brentjenkinsdesigns Před 2 lety +6

    Another stunning example of bonsai excellence. As I often say, I always learn multiple lessons watching Peter and his staff at Herons. Thank you so much for taking the time to record your techniques and experiences. Ive yet to consume content that I didn't completely enjoy and/or learn from Mr Peter Chan & company!

  • @Majortom756
    @Majortom756 Před 4 lety +11

    We see glimpses of your staff from time to time lending a hand with heavy lifting, etc., but it's really nice to see them in the spotlight for a change. Great work Tebo! Really fun project/video.

  • @jon2000sun
    @jon2000sun Před 4 lety +20

    Love it. Can we see more from your staff. Modern twist, he's been taught well.

  • @N0MrGreen
    @N0MrGreen Před 4 lety +18

    Probably my favourite form of "bonsai" taking the imperfections and perfecting them. More please!

  • @smallndmighty
    @smallndmighty Před 4 lety +2

    awesome video guys. what he says at around 11 minutes about the smaller tree sweeping away from the larger is a perfect imitation of nature. as an arborist i see this a lot we refer to it as figma morphogenesis and have to prune the trees as one crown

    • @peterchan3100
      @peterchan3100 Před 4 lety

      Thank you - I learnt something new from you.

  • @juanperezpianistaflamenco

    Amazing video thanks Peter, and yes! We want more from Tebo! It is very nice what he do. Thanks Peter!!

  • @Novastrom
    @Novastrom Před 3 lety +6

    I’d love to see more of this and having met this man twice, he’s always been a super friendly and very helpful

  • @Ulvestorm
    @Ulvestorm Před 3 lety +4

    As a landscape architect, I am always fascinated with the miniature landscapes that one can create by utisilizing bonsai techniques. Unfortunately, in my part of the world, pots would freeze solid in winter, but maybe some day I'll be somewhere more bonsai friendly :) Thanks for doing this video!

  • @inekev.d.heijden3393
    @inekev.d.heijden3393 Před rokem +2

    I was truly mesmerized watching Tibo do his magic. He’s a true star and an asset to the nursery. It’s a lovely landscape 👍🙏

  • @monikakukiea2191
    @monikakukiea2191 Před 2 lety +2

    I love it. Landscapes like this are very calm and naturally and simply beautiful. Well done.

  • @emilythequeen1
    @emilythequeen1 Před 4 lety +5

    You can tell he really admired Peter, I love the mutual admiration that these guys have as this goes together! It’s so magnificent! I would indeed like to see more of these landscapes!

  • @bigbigsky8878
    @bigbigsky8878 Před 4 lety +22

    7:49 "I'm watching you"

  • @37027Bill
    @37027Bill Před 8 měsíci +1

    I have tried Penjing before but have yet to succeed. I think patience is a virtue. Please do more on Penjing. I think I have seen every video produced by Herons Bonsai. Peter is great.

  • @birgittej5895
    @birgittej5895 Před 4 lety +28

    Love the setting. I would definitely like to see more videos like this.

  • @tonylockwood4298
    @tonylockwood4298 Před 2 lety +3

    I really enjoyed that, not least for the interactions of Peter and Tebo. The end picture was great and the whole project showed to me the artistic freedom available in bonsai. More please!!

  • @terimurphy9400
    @terimurphy9400 Před rokem +3

    Absolutely beautiful! I enjoyed this very much. Thank you, Peter and Tebow, for sharing this amazing art with us.

  • @traximosyt
    @traximosyt Před 3 lety +2

    I can feel the passion coming from that mans hands as he creates. Amazing result. Love it!

  • @SuperPeleke
    @SuperPeleke Před 3 lety +4

    It looked so much better after the leaves came out. What patience it took to wait for the leaves to come out to film a follow-up.

  • @matteroftouch
    @matteroftouch Před 4 lety +12

    Each day is a most pleasant surprise when you guys upload. Thank you.

  • @HarpersInfiniteSystems
    @HarpersInfiniteSystems Před 4 lety +18

    I'd love to see more of these landscapes. Thanks for another interesting video!

  • @8051977
    @8051977 Před 4 lety +1

    Peter, let Tibor do his own thing. I’m enjoying his process. You are always telling us to use our imagination.

  • @abydosianchulac2
    @abydosianchulac2 Před rokem +1

    I love all the work Peter does, but this more chaotic, more improvised riffing off nature just clicks with me so much more. I need to do some diving into the penjing world.

  • @melwee8511
    @melwee8511 Před 2 lety +3

    I'm mesmerised by the entire process. Love listening to Tebo's inspiration and explanation how he decides which tree goes where and why he does certain things. Coupled with Peter prompting him on his thought process, it's so amazing to watch, listen and learn from you two gentlemen. :) Thk u!!!

  • @haagendabs4077
    @haagendabs4077 Před 4 lety +6

    Tibor sold me my first tree about ten years ago, was therefore lovely to see him still working there when i recently got a new addition! Lost a fair few pounds too i notice 😎👍

  • @hazelem1266
    @hazelem1266 Před 2 lety

    Peter, I always thought you’d be a good teacher. And now, seeing your student, showcasing what he has been taught, and comfortable in front of a camera, shows that.

  • @Incandescentiron
    @Incandescentiron Před rokem +1

    I like these landscapes. They have the potential of hinting at a greater story.

  • @MidniteSan
    @MidniteSan Před 4 lety +4

    Looks simple and natural looking. Whats not easy is matching the right proportions i guess. Well done guys, i like the additional format of the video of Peter's colleague making that Penjing. Hope he and Peter could also show us some Ishizuki bonsai..stay safe to all and can't wait for the next one.

  • @markl4112
    @markl4112 Před 4 lety +3

    "Medium of expression". Thanks Peter for allowing that. It frees up inspiration and creativity.

  • @birgitromfeld9734
    @birgitromfeld9734 Před 2 lety

    es ist immer wieder eine Freude zu sehen was aus einer Idee entsteht. Nicht immer ein perfekter Bonsai, sondern eine Landschaft bei der man direkt das Gefühle hat, man ist im Wald, in der Natur. Vielen Dank dafür

  • @scottsmith5753
    @scottsmith5753 Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you for allowing him to show his talents Tibo

    • @peterchan3100
      @peterchan3100 Před 4 lety

      Its not about allowing someone to do it but its hard to persuade them to do it.

  • @terryforsdyke306
    @terryforsdyke306 Před 4 lety +8

    Thank you Peter, this was great, Tbor (I suspect I have misspealt that, so sorry) is a good presenter, and I would be happy to see him and more of this style of Bonsai in future videos.
    I always greatly appreciate the efforts of you and your staff to educate and entertain us.

  • @jjj7665
    @jjj7665 Před 4 lety +8

    This is a work of art very natural looking. Thank, Could we see more.

  • @thebrightsidepotteryandbonsai

    Wow! That is some skill! How fortunate to have a colleague with such an amazing sense! Truly...very enjoyable presentation.
    It is so interesting that the penjing influence can be invested with such a different cultural context. Great work! Thank you!

  • @jbjuggler
    @jbjuggler Před 3 lety +1

    Tebo did a great job as I am sure he does with all his creations. Great video of start to finish in creating a landscape bonsai. I really like your videos and they are teaching me so much. Thank you!

  • @RolandObermeier
    @RolandObermeier Před 4 lety +6

    Love what you guys do Peter. awesome work Tibor. Hope we can see more of this kind of work in the future, very inspiring.

  • @jzizzles7799
    @jzizzles7799 Před 4 lety +11

    Wow, that came out beautiful! Wouldn't mind having this landscape in my front yard!

  • @rosspadden4201
    @rosspadden4201 Před 3 lety +1

    Enjoyed this video and the thought process involved. Even more Tebo stuck to his guns to realize his idea. Good watching, cheers.

  • @blahblahbleh__9046
    @blahblahbleh__9046 Před 4 lety +1

    This is just fantastic. No reason why you couldn't do this sort of thing based on a piece of landscape you've seen and just thought "I'd love to see that everyday". Well, thanks to Tebo, now you can!

  • @SherwoodFluFortuna
    @SherwoodFluFortuna Před 4 lety +5

    Very beatiful!
    Yes, I'd like see more penjing creation

  • @bpesmom
    @bpesmom Před 4 lety +7

    Simply beautiful! Enjoyed watching the evolution of the setting.

  • @tommystilwell9658
    @tommystilwell9658 Před 4 lety +1

    Hi Peter, thanks for producing this lovely video with Tibor, loving the content on the channel. Me and my girlfriend watch every episode together, and get excited for new videos! Tibor, I really appreciate your work and the fantastic advice and help when we came to Herons.

  • @chrisflanagan4495
    @chrisflanagan4495 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for showing ways to create a living forest for those of us who love them, but don't have the space or resources to own large trees. Simply beautiful!

  • @karanseraph
    @karanseraph Před 4 lety +4

    I really appreciated this video. Whether something is 'bonsai' or not isn't my own concern. I like this living landscape art and would really like to go in this direction with some of my own small collection of container trees.
    I noticed that in one of your tour videos you had some other beach-like landscapes with miniature houses and plants appearing like palms. Those were lovely, too.

  • @merralynvaillancourt6526
    @merralynvaillancourt6526 Před 4 lety +4

    Absolutely love this! Please show more! Great job Tebow!

  • @johnbrock1602
    @johnbrock1602 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Very enjoyable to watch an would like to see MORE landscapers.

  • @generedwine6863
    @generedwine6863 Před 4 lety +1

    Love the bit about sharing thought processes and Peter's prompting the young man to do so. This is an immense help to learners or even those who just enjoy the finished product.

  • @StenniZ77
    @StenniZ77 Před 4 lety +6

    Beautiful landscape/ artwork! I would sure love to see more like this. :)

  • @mandrei99
    @mandrei99 Před 2 lety +1

    The first maple is actually very nice. I dont know why, but I love that shape.

  • @salemdrones4907
    @salemdrones4907 Před 4 lety

    I like Tibor's work! He did a great job showing the audience his vision. The fence was a nice touch, but even without it, I think the work would have still looked wonderful!

  • @nailbendert4569
    @nailbendert4569 Před 4 lety +3

    Loved it. I would like to see him replicate an old stone fence. Those amaze me.

  • @CycleKat
    @CycleKat Před 4 lety +5

    I love this addition to the channel! I'd love to know more about the long-term care of a landscape like this. For instance, how do you repot it?

  • @Bunny-ro7rd
    @Bunny-ro7rd Před 2 lety +1

    I love your philosophy. What a lovely bit of English countryside Bonsai. I smiled all the way through the last parts, as it came together. Oh no...my smile is stuck : )

  • @jordanson66
    @jordanson66 Před 4 lety

    only a true master introduces his students, what a humble true teacher

  • @Ukeitupmike
    @Ukeitupmike Před 4 lety +5

    great! enjoyed this as it is so different

  • @simon-qy2xe
    @simon-qy2xe Před 4 lety +9

    7:51 The Boss is watching

    • @katiecanine4548
      @katiecanine4548 Před 4 lety +1

      Was thinking the same. Mother hen watching ☺️😂 I love how he asks critical questions but also keeps telling him that it looks nice.

  • @angelasnyder7209
    @angelasnyder7209 Před 2 lety +2

    I just loved watching the creation of the landscape. My mom is planning to give me a weeping willow branch that's she's been working on just for me to turn into a bonsai and I want to do a landscape style for it. She also just gave me a bonsai seed starter kit to try out. I never had a bonsai but wanted one since I was little, back in the late 80's. I really enjoy all the advice given on these episodes & look forward to more.

  • @joybeum7177
    @joybeum7177 Před 3 lety +2

    Peter, You and Tibo are giving me more confidence that I will be able to restore a divided dish with mountains and a Japanese fisherman, with half available for a bonsai I recently came into possession of. I am very excited about this challenge!

  • @Thimbrethil
    @Thimbrethil Před 4 lety +5

    Peter, could you make an update on this composition in like 3-4 months in time? I'm really curious how it will come together.

    • @MariaSpooon
      @MariaSpooon Před 4 lety +2

      It might not be there in 3-4 months time I would buy it now, if I had the money.😉

    • @Thimbrethil
      @Thimbrethil Před 4 lety +2

      @@MariaSpooon So... can the current owner at this time make an update? ^^

    • @peterchan3100
      @peterchan3100 Před 4 lety +5

      @@MariaSpooon Sorry - someone has already reserved this. It was reserved the day it was made.

    • @MariaSpooon
      @MariaSpooon Před 4 lety +2

      @@peterchan3100 Peter, it doesn't surprise me, beautifully created piece.

    • @peterchan3100
      @peterchan3100 Před 4 lety +5

      @@MariaSpooon Can always make you another one like this !! I will get Tibor to do one and if you like it - you can buy it.

  • @waknatious
    @waknatious Před 4 lety +6

    "The Japanese wouldn't consider this bonsai... they're angry." Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha #pedantry #nobodylikesapurist

  • @rev.edwardmartinez468
    @rev.edwardmartinez468 Před 3 lety

    Saw three seemingly little value tres, fall into place and get an old time looking setting stunningly, right before our eyes. Simply delightful. Thank you gentlemen.

  • @thome4229
    @thome4229 Před 3 lety +1

    Since today, i´m landscape-junkie 😍More of this, please!

  • @vivianramsay2527
    @vivianramsay2527 Před 4 lety

    Yes, Tebo is quite the artist. No slave to bonsai, part of the evolution of the art absolutely!!

  • @SuperSilviaS15
    @SuperSilviaS15 Před 3 lety

    I like this, Ive seen people make landscape "model" scenes that were not alive...seeing one that was alive and beautiful was a treat, thank you.

  • @doonbiz
    @doonbiz Před 2 lety +1

    Just beautiful. I'd have even wired an old-fashioned miniature street lamp into the rear on the left so to illuminates the leaves softly. Also suggests scale (Street lamp compared to tree), and creates a mood, a slave you'd love to step into.

  • @francescoyne2859
    @francescoyne2859 Před rokem +1

    I wish I lived closer, this is beautifully done. Thank you for sharing your art.

  • @roxannesides3200
    @roxannesides3200 Před 3 lety +1

    beautiful. it tells a story like a scene from a book. love it!

  • @silentgrove7670
    @silentgrove7670 Před 4 lety

    It's quite lovely seeing it with the red leaves out.
    I was out noticing the trees today. The imperfections that give them character. Knot holes where limbs have fallen and then healed over. I know many people like the pristine forms though I like the ones that show they have weathered through the storms of life. They tell a story.

  • @judemack8604
    @judemack8604 Před 4 lety

    As of yet I have not made any bonsai but have been watching your videos to learn how to start and inspire me to begin developing these very lovely trees. This form of landscaping is wonderful and I definitely want to try my hand at creating one.

  • @KIWISMAMA
    @KIWISMAMA Před rokem +1

    So beautiful and artistic. Thank you for filming for us.

  • @ArtistisMe
    @ArtistisMe Před 2 lety +2

    A great landscape, thank you for showing us how it's done.

  • @garyfriedrick9941
    @garyfriedrick9941 Před 2 lety +2

    Yes, yes, well done, mate!

  • @ZAAHWA
    @ZAAHWA Před 3 lety

    Love the landscape bonsai. It's like a little set for a movie.

  • @christiansuss6521
    @christiansuss6521 Před 4 lety +2

    I really do appreciate Videos about Penjing and you both did it so well and nicely. Thank you so much! Greetings from Germany!

  • @schuangsg
    @schuangsg Před 4 lety

    Beautiful . speechless. Thanks Tebo and Peter for trying new stuff and not being constrained by convention although tradition does have its merits...

  • @hecktate1763
    @hecktate1763 Před 3 lety +1

    That landscape is gorgeous. It reminds me of a mountain hiking trail.

  • @emme8255
    @emme8255 Před 4 lety

    Finish product A++ once he wet it down gave it the look of a fresh morning rain in early spring. just waiting for the early morning sun rise leaning against the fence having a good cup of coffee. OUT STANDING SHOW as well as your colleague TALENTED.

  • @Kitty-tc3oh
    @Kitty-tc3oh Před 3 lety

    Just found this. Well done Peter for showing your coworker! Great video.

  • @maggillaguerrilla830
    @maggillaguerrilla830 Před 3 lety

    When the master becomes the student and the student becomes the master. This is good teaching here.