@@ShellKameilWhy do you think they're sending them out to fight the Earth Federation? Might as well get some test data and milk your EFSF repair contracts for the death of your unionizing mooks :D
Except most of the member were active or former Federation forces soldiers. They even had seat in the Senate. And they could get into EF bases for resupply, sometimes with Titan forces next door
Eisenhower once said: "Beware the Military-Industrial Complex" Anaheim Electronics proved the truth of that warning. They WERE the Military-Industrial Complex.
I work near El Segundo CA and Boeing/Raytheon/Northrup Grumman- they seem to doing pretty good business with the multiple current ongoing conflicts. MIC indeed
Eisenhower was proven right years ago. Just look at the state of America right now. Most Americans are completely brainwashed. Even suggesting America spend less money on the military and more on peaceful endeavors and you're screamed out of the room as an anti-American commie loving traitor.
AE really need their own video tbh. A lot of MS thefts can be traced back to them, and it's also kind of interesting to see how they basically just own the moon and nobody ever questions that.
That moonbase originally belong to zeon under kycillia command. After one year war, Anaheim absorb many zeon MS company including take over their moonbase
How many experimental and high performance MS were"stolen" from AE but were really sold to the opponents of the Feddies but they just deliver to them for OBVIOUS reasons.
More like Jerid doesn't know how to keep his fat mouth shut. Plus the guy literally only wanted to fight JUST to lead the Titans.... which even without Kamille would have been a sinking ship anyway
You can say a lot about Kamille but I have got to know how you argue that he is the one who started it. What, was AEUG just chilling and they learned a teen punched a Titan and just was like "TIME FOR REBELLION"?
Also remember, in 00, the first human to ever make contact with an alien and helped built a brigther future was from the middle east. Not something you see in anime everyday. Or in Most fiction overall.
To be fair, they set up that 00's Middle East carried a lot of political and geographical significance. It was basically a 1 in 3 who was gonna meet aliens. 00's protagonist could have easily been Korean.
It actually hilarious that SNRI actually have disappoint EF more than AE, it first got out tech by Crossbone Vanguard, sold next generation suit to a space pirate not EF until hard lobbying from EF, and during Victory era to its straight out betrayed EF
The next gen Fed mass produced MS would be designed by SNRI so they are still around. Not to mention the older members of the league are mostly SNRI members. The League was supported by AE But the design of their MS are from SNRI
There’s also Delling, even if it’s not in the traditional sense. He created a story out of thin air and murdered not only scientists but innocents in Vanadis. And for a time he was the lead dividing force between Earth and space. Then there’s Nobliss. Every single problem, including the final battle in IBO, was caused by him. He manipulated Kudelia, the leader of an independence group, to almost die a martyr and her right-hand maid was in his pocket.
Actually not out of thin air: we do see footage of crippled casualties from GUND-Arm in the Prologue, as well as both Sulletta and Peospara in the epilogue. It doesn't justify Delling's action (and I suspect that his main motivation is to make sure Earthian company can't compete with Spacian ones), but his fear isn't baseless.
Let's not forget he initiated the strike to summarily execute all personnel and destroy all assets before he was even given the authority in the new group to do things.
Thank you for highlighting Ali al-Saachez and Galan Mossa. Nebulous mega corporations get all the attention as pillars of the Military Industrial Complex but it's just as important to support your independent, artisan soldier of fortune. Remember, think of the little guy, buy local, and help support small businesses.
Prince Ali, mighty is he, Ali Al-Saachez! Vile as ten regular men, I guarantee. He started holy wars, With children all armed with swords, He's truly a blight on all humanity!
I code-named my thousand dollar Magic the Gathering commander deck “Anaheim Electronics”. Not only is it powerful, it’s thematic as hell. There’s like 4 cards specifically themed on “banks”. Hahaha sorry to rant about a completely different thing but the deck also generates “pilot” tokens for the sole purpose of meat shields/sacrificial fodder which I find quite fitting.
AE(Anaheim Electronics) if you switch A and E position... you're get EA(not only Stand for Earth Alliance but also one of greediest companies in real life Electronics Art) As you know EA: MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY 😂😂😂
Anaheim to me is the funniest element of the UC, because all that you mentioned happened, but it is never talked about out loud. Since Zeta, Anaheim just does things, supply both sides magically with the best suits, both sides accept without even questioning, and move on like the company doesn't exist, it's hilarious when you think about it.
That's how they existed for so long. They are so low profile and yet neither side would suspect AE of war profitering even though both sides rely on them. At least until I dunno V gundam
Not that surprising really. Once they had all the MS production and no one else even had the chance to rival them, they had all the power. Militaries need weapons, when one guy can supply them, no one complains as long as their orders are filled. Then the issue of anyone calling them out, they lose their weapons and no one else can make them. So, while the Federation, Zeon, and all others knew what was up, it wasn't a concern. Either commit more lives to the fight (Cheap and easy for large governments that are already on wartime economies) or call them out and no more bang bangs.
It's terrifying because it's right. How often do you hear people naming the companies that produce all of America's weapons? Did you even know that weapons are one of America's biggest exports? It's all very quiet and rarely talked about. Usually, the media calls it "aid". Makes it sound like first aid kits and blankets. No, those are weapons and munitions.
In Stardust Memories. The head of the Anaheim Electronics moon offices O'Sullivan was providing the Delaz Fleet with equipment and information to fight the Earth Federation. Although, his "self-deletion" was very suspicious like the higher ups were getting rid of loose ends.
I'm surprised, that the Benerit Group from The Witch from Mercury wasn't mentioned. Given that they have literally become a military industrial congress, rather than complex. They instigated endless proxy wars on Earth to keep their enemies and rivals weak, all the while making a profit from the conflicts. Then again, I suppose the anime didn't showcase much of that aspect of the story.
as I understand, the proxy wars they cause and maintain were part of a system they established to help manage and regulate the scale and intensity of conflicts between Earth and Space, as grudges between the two, especially Earth, still lingered the Benerit Group would have fully become Anaheim, though, had Shaddiq's plan succeeded since he wanted to instigate a true, big war to profit from
1:47 Oh God.... No wonder a lot of parents ended up building Gundams for their children in the Universal Century! Amuro Ray, Kamille Bidan, Seabook Arno, Banagher links, Uso Ewin, and Bellri Zenam.
Of all the Gundam antagonists you know of, which of them did you felt truly disgusted by the most? To the point of you have no sympathy to their actions and upbringing. And which of them do you think you can relate to the most, from your personal life experiences to theirs?
Lady Prospora. I will NEVER apply the term 'Mother' to that woman in any shape or form. And the fact Sulleta and Erict were willing to forgive her by the end REALLY made me mad. Even had to replace my monitor due to... my reaction being a bit stronger then intended.
@@MasterSwo-MK it’s a fair opinion I can agree with. What of your most relatable antagonist in Gundam, personal experience and emotionally wise? (P.S. I did not think I would get a reply comment from this chat this soon thanks!)
Basically all of the Titans major leadership. They're just such patently obvious extreme right wing fascists just waiting to use war for personal political gain. None of them are shown to have any redeeming traits that I've seen. All of them were willing to kill innocents on purpose to make a point or just to terrorize their enemies. For individuals though, the leader of Blue Cosmos in Seed. I know they tried to make it seem like it was his inferiority complex and he was bullied blah blah blah. The dude had a hard on for mass murder and was delusional to boot. He was willing to kill and maim his own people to do it. Was willing to let the Earth starve just to kill the coordinators.
In terms of hateable its gotta be a tie between Ali Al Saachez (damn he’s so brutal) and Iok Kujan (bro threw so much he became a lobber) In terms of relatable it’s hard but im going to say Shinn Asuka (he doesnt have many redeemable aspects as of now but you gotta give it to him, the Gundams took away his family (parents and lil sister), friends (Heronimus), and lover (Stella), and him sinking the mighty Freedom Gundam (the strongest gundam at that time) was the perfect revenge for him)
I think Anaheim and their nefarious activities in the UC could be expanded into a whole video. Your Gundam lore videos are the absolute best I've seen.
I'm beginning to think that neither the Zeon, nor the titans, nor the Crossbone Vanguard(which became the protagonist faction thanks to Crossbone Gundam), nor the Zanscare Empire was the real antagonists of the Universal Century, but it was actually Anaheim Electronics was the real antagonist of the UC Timeline. AE was literally the Supervillain of the Gundam UC
I wouldn't agree. They're opportunists and greedy. But it wasn't them who did things like colony drops and gas attacks. The person who hands the killer the weapon is to blame yes, but the person ACTUALLY killing still is the bigger issue. I would argue that AE isn't even evil per say. It's a corporation and this is the problem with corporation. They are designed to make money, everyone who works for them is designed, trained, brainwashed even, to put corporate profit as goal #1. AE was a weapons company. So it looked at the state of the world and said: if things go this direction we stand to make more money - let's invest in that route. It's the problem with making weapons production be a for profit enterprise, rather than a state controlled for defense only system.
I think Saachez is the overall worst because, unlike the others, he enjoyed violence for the sake of violence and not some higher cause or goal. He's like the Joker in that he revels in the chaos and death he wreaks while everyone else is just a means to achieve it. I also have a question that's been bugging me for years. What happened to Dorel Ronah after F91? The last time we see him, he's leading an attack against the Federation and then he just disappears. Also, how do you feel about the Iron Mask is Angelo Sauper fan theory?
Just got done watching Turn A a few weeks ago and Guin Sard Rhineford is definitely one of them, lol. He makes claims that it's all to further technological evolution, but nearly every episode shows that to hardly be the case.
Unless I missed the comment, I haven't seen anyone mention how in Unicorn they actually point out that the Federation and Zeon's weapons are compatible with the other side because they're all made by Anaheim.
I have a question regarding Anaheim. In the Gundam manga “Johnny Ridden no Kikan” Council man Gopp reveals that Anaheim only bought HALF of the assets of the former Principality MS companies because the Federation joined the auction hoping to prevent Anaheim from getting those assets, or at least not get all of them. What Anaheim did with its half is plain as day obvious, but what did the FEDERATION do with its half of the assets of the MS companies?
the one issue with this is where is the money coming from? Investing in both sides sounds like a good idea on the surface. Double the bang for your buck, but as one side starts to lose the war their ability to pay for everything starts to come into question, and suddenly you're stuck holding the bag on a bunch of war material that for all intents and purposes is useless and won't make money off of. And if your solution in fixing this mess is to stir another conflict... well now we run into the old issue, where is the money coming from? Finances can be split into liquid and non-liquid assets, Anaheim would want liquid assets such as stocks, bonds, treasury notes, and cold hard cash something they can convert into money in less than 90 days and put into their own accounts or into their own stock portfolios. But generally, no state has all the cash on hand to buy everything up front, so this shit is done on Credit... and if one side loses paying back debts to war profiteers is usually at the bottom of the barrel unless that company has a private military strong enough to come collect. So Anaheim supporting both sides is eating a major profit loss everytime they do this crap XD
As much as we like Japanese cartoons here, Japan as a country hasn't been geopolitically active or relevant(other than as supporting role to someone else's initiative), since the end of WW2, even Tomino was a lil' brat at that time. Most Japanese authors simply don't have that good of a grasp on certain geopolitical or military industrial topics. Its like asking a guy who cant drive and has only seen racing on TV to write about a driver; sure he can do all the research but in the end, its not the complete picture.
After all she was involved in making the Nuclear armed GP02A (although she probably didn't mean for Gato "The Nightmare of Solomon " to steal and use the nuke later)
There wasn’t really much warmongering going on . At least we don’t see it . Just business people trying to monopolize a group corporation. We don’t see characters encouraging warfare to continue conflicts for profit . They aren’t focused on much.
If you want an example of warmongering then take a look at Armored Core corporations, those corporations make WfM corporations look like sissies and they are the government and get in direct conflict with each other
In a similar way to how you detailed the original plan of the Archangel and the 5 Gundams can you discuss what the original plan for the UC Project was? And, if you'd like, could you explain how you believe Psychoframe technology was phased out from 0096 - 0123?
Here's how to solve the natural/coordinator conflict in the Cosmic Era: 1)develop a process to turn people alteady born into coordinators; 2) Make the procedure free.
I have a question that I think could make for an interesting video. Were that any Mobile Suit/Gundam development projects that were viewed as abject failures, and if so, why?
I would say the Jegan and Geara Doga are actually pretty evenly matched, with the Jegan probably having the upper hand slightly. In the case of the Second Neo War (CCA) I actually think Londo Bell had the disadvantage in numbers, specially considering they were the only ones to be using the Jegans and fighting Char. In my mind, the reason why the Geara Dogas seem to perform better is the fact that Newborn Neo Zeon (just gonna refer to them as Neo Zeon now) probably had better pilots, sure Londo Bell had the Elite of the Earth Federation and AEUG, but by that time there weren't that many good AEUG pilots left thanks to them leaving to another faction, dying or retiring after the First Neo Zeon War. The Federation Pilots weren't in a better state either, with most of the good federation pilots being on the Titans and most of the veterans on the First Neo Zeon war not having that much experience since the actual Federation Forces didn't really engage Haman or Glemy's faction as much. Even at the end of ZZ, they are literally too late and the battle was already won by the few remains of the AEUG/Gundam team. On the other hand you had Neo Zeon which had battle hardened Axis Zeon pilots, some AEUG pilots that probably defected, veteran Zeon pilots and more damming than all, Cyber-NewTypes. Let's put it in another way, Neo Zeon pilots were probably used to handling powerful MSs like the Zaku IIIs, Doven Wolfs, the Gaza series, Dreissens, Galluss Js, Bawoos, Zaku IVs, etc. Most Federation Pilots and AEUG pilots had Nemos and GM IIIs as their best standard issue MS, with aces maybe having the Nouvel GM III and Zeta plus series. Even if we count the Moon Gundam stuff, Londo Bell was really outclassed in terms of pilots, although in all fairness in moon gundam Neo Zeon had the better MS hands down.} This is exemplified by the fact that if you gave a competent pilot any of the Federations machines they could go toe to toe with similar Neo Zeon machines. Even Amuro, yes I know it's unfair to use Amuro as an example but bear with me, almost destroyed one of the Neo Zeon's top MS, the Jagd Doga, with his ReGZ alone. It was only char who came and eventually saved Gyunei. Was writing all of this worth it because of a single slide on the video about fictional space robots? No... but atleast it was fun to think about.
BUT. While they do fight for money, they also tend do not enjoy said fighting. For Serpent Tail being a Mercenary is a job and not a lifestyle choice like Sanchez.
While Amazon does have a lot of control over our lives, it is as the mega middle man. Anaheim not only producing things, but best in class quality manufacturing... the comparison doesn't work. Edit: Anaheim forgot a crucial rule of Acquisition. Peace is also good for business.
I almost missed this video in my feed. Not a great thumbnail. I honestly only looked at it BECAUSE I couldn't tell what it was at a glance and was pleasantly surprised it was your video. But this is a fun topic that I would love a deeper dive into sometime. But at the same time it also kinda feels like it touches on some topics that might provoke issues with real world topics too. So tread carefully. lol
Meanwhile in opposite sides *Red moon, red moon...* . *Cleanses the sinful and makes them anew...* *Shining brightly in the night sky* * waiting for the souls...* *Who will be born again tonight?* *Who will be born again tonight?*
Love your work Kakarot197 huge fan got a request for some videos could you do 10 best villains in Gundam either UC or AU or both same thing applies to top 10 best fights in Gundam if possible id love to see those 4 videos someday?
How are both sides able to produce so many different units in such a short span of time? The US still uses decade old fighter jets just fine but it seems in Gundam, even a month old machine is dated.
Suspension of disbelief. Sorry, there's just no good answer for it. Zeon made more iterations, prototypes, variants, new models, etc in one year than even WWII Germany did in WWII. And Zeon was playing with far more experimental technologies.
Here is all the gundam warmongers. Treize KHUSHRENADA, Ali AL-SAACHEZ, Dorothy CATALONIA, Gym GHINGHAM, Olba FROST, Patrick ZALA, Fezarl EZELCANT, Fixx BLOODMAN, Seidel RASSO.
You know, I once read a post that said Anaheim Electronics (AE) is no different from Electronic Arts (EA)...which now that I really took the time to think about it, it kinda makes sense in a way. Both AE and EA have made bad decisions before...looking at you ReGZ and every EA game ever
I think if you touched the IBO but not mention the tekkadan is a huge mistake. They are fit in every definition of a Warmongering group of mercenary up until Orga's dead.
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Broke: AEUG stands for Anti-Earth Union Group
Woke: AEUG stands for Anaheim Electronics Union Group
As if Anaheim would let a union be formed
@@ShellKameilWhy do you think they're sending them out to fight the Earth Federation? Might as well get some test data and milk your EFSF repair contracts for the death of your unionizing mooks :D
Except most of the member were active or former Federation forces soldiers.
They even had seat in the Senate.
And they could get into EF bases for resupply, sometimes with Titan forces next door
Anaheim Electronics' Under-the-table Group
Mind=blown!
Eisenhower once said: "Beware the Military-Industrial Complex"
Anaheim Electronics proved the truth of that warning. They WERE the Military-Industrial Complex.
I work near El Segundo CA and Boeing/Raytheon/Northrup Grumman- they seem to doing pretty good business with the multiple current ongoing conflicts. MIC indeed
Eisenhower was proven right years ago. Just look at the state of America right now. Most Americans are completely brainwashed. Even suggesting America spend less money on the military and more on peaceful endeavors and you're screamed out of the room as an anti-American commie loving traitor.
@@hitachicordoba Boeing not so much
AE: "psst... hey kid, wanna buy some mobile suits?"
AE really need their own video tbh. A lot of MS thefts can be traced back to them, and it's also kind of interesting to see how they basically just own the moon and nobody ever questions that.
That moonbase originally belong to zeon under kycillia command. After one year war, Anaheim absorb many zeon MS company including take over their moonbase
I read that and thought "they own the moon?" and realized that I too fell for their propaganda
the shame of it ......
I had to read up on them after Gundam hathaway because those mobile suits were damn huge
How many experimental and high performance MS were"stolen" from AE but were really sold to the opponents of the Feddies but they just deliver to them for OBVIOUS reasons.
Kamille. He didn't start the gryps war for money, but for vengeance.
More like Jerid doesn't know how to keep his fat mouth shut. Plus the guy literally only wanted to fight JUST to lead the Titans.... which even without Kamille would have been a sinking ship anyway
Kamille: what? You make fun of my name? Eat my punch!
That isn't necessarily greed. That's more wrath.
You can say a lot about Kamille but I have got to know how you argue that he is the one who started it. What, was AEUG just chilling and they learned a teen punched a Titan and just was like "TIME FOR REBELLION"?
And because his name was a man's name
Also remember, in 00, the first human to ever make contact with an alien and helped built a brigther future was from the middle east. Not something you see in anime everyday. Or in Most fiction overall.
00 is not subtle in its political messaging but it's one of the few times it's so well woven into the story.
To be fair, they set up that 00's Middle East carried a lot of political and geographical significance. It was basically a 1 in 3 who was gonna meet aliens. 00's protagonist could have easily been Korean.
@@afeliasnah if OO had a Korean protagonist it wouldn’t have as much of a relative impact since Korea is a first world country
It actually hilarious that SNRI actually have disappoint EF more than AE, it first got out tech by Crossbone Vanguard, sold next generation suit to a space pirate not EF until hard lobbying from EF, and during Victory era to its straight out betrayed EF
SnRI side 2 facilities are illegally occupied by Z Empire
The next gen Fed mass produced MS would be designed by SNRI so they are still around.
Not to mention the older members of the league are mostly SNRI members.
The League was supported by AE But the design of their MS are from SNRI
There’s also Delling, even if it’s not in the traditional sense. He created a story out of thin air and murdered not only scientists but innocents in Vanadis. And for a time he was the lead dividing force between Earth and space.
Then there’s Nobliss. Every single problem, including the final battle in IBO, was caused by him. He manipulated Kudelia, the leader of an independence group, to almost die a martyr and her right-hand maid was in his pocket.
Actually not out of thin air: we do see footage of crippled casualties from GUND-Arm in the Prologue, as well as both Sulletta and Peospara in the epilogue.
It doesn't justify Delling's action (and I suspect that his main motivation is to make sure Earthian company can't compete with Spacian ones), but his fear isn't baseless.
Let's not forget he initiated the strike to summarily execute all personnel and destroy all assets before he was even given the authority in the new group to do things.
Thank you for highlighting Ali al-Saachez and Galan Mossa. Nebulous mega corporations get all the attention as pillars of the Military Industrial Complex but it's just as important to support your independent, artisan soldier of fortune. Remember, think of the little guy, buy local, and help support small businesses.
Prince Ali, mighty is he, Ali Al-Saachez!
Vile as ten regular men, I guarantee.
He started holy wars,
With children all armed with swords,
He's truly a blight on all humanity!
@@Prich319 Clever.
But also a MASSIVE understatement.
@@Prich319 Voiced by Scott McNeil aka Dinobot from Transformers Beast Wars.
Need gundam series based on this guys. Nicholas cage 's lord of war character should be the basis of the protagonist.
I code-named my thousand dollar Magic the Gathering commander deck “Anaheim Electronics”. Not only is it powerful, it’s thematic as hell. There’s like 4 cards specifically themed on “banks”. Hahaha sorry to rant about a completely different thing but the deck also generates “pilot” tokens for the sole purpose of meat shields/sacrificial fodder which I find quite fitting.
AE(Anaheim Electronics) if you switch A and E position... you're get EA(not only Stand for Earth Alliance but also one of greediest companies in real life Electronics Art)
As you know EA: MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY 😂😂😂
Remember the Rules of Acquisition.
#34 War is good for business.
#35 Peace is good for business.
Peace is good for business
All is for gaining lot of *Latinum*
For *Glory of Ferengi Empire*
Oh wait a minute
Ooops wrong show
😂😂😂@@ZeroDarkness-
Ali al Saanchez is the best warmonger in Gundam history
10:56 "Because a mercenary will do anything for the right price."
Nah, he just likes killing. It was never about being paid for the job
I think he just loves killing and starting conflicts no matter how much blood is raining down on him.
Anaheim to me is the funniest element of the UC, because all that you mentioned happened, but it is never talked about out loud. Since Zeta, Anaheim just does things, supply both sides magically with the best suits, both sides accept without even questioning, and move on like the company doesn't exist, it's hilarious when you think about it.
That's how they existed for so long. They are so low profile and yet neither side would suspect AE of war profitering even though both sides rely on them. At least until I dunno V gundam
Not that surprising really. Once they had all the MS production and no one else even had the chance to rival them, they had all the power. Militaries need weapons, when one guy can supply them, no one complains as long as their orders are filled.
Then the issue of anyone calling them out, they lose their weapons and no one else can make them. So, while the Federation, Zeon, and all others knew what was up, it wasn't a concern. Either commit more lives to the fight (Cheap and easy for large governments that are already on wartime economies) or call them out and no more bang bangs.
It's terrifying because it's right. How often do you hear people naming the companies that produce all of America's weapons? Did you even know that weapons are one of America's biggest exports? It's all very quiet and rarely talked about. Usually, the media calls it "aid". Makes it sound like first aid kits and blankets. No, those are weapons and munitions.
@@Plapraduntil f91 were they start to decline and are just gone by victory gundam
Welllll..... That is till the Federation started up SNRI well into the last years of the first century of Universal Century and the UC100s.
11:00
"Who are you?"
"I'm Evil McEvilson, and I love evil because it's evil!"
I believe the term OP was looking for is "War profiteer."
In Stardust Memories. The head of the Anaheim Electronics moon offices O'Sullivan was providing the Delaz Fleet with equipment and information to fight the Earth Federation. Although, his "self-deletion" was very suspicious like the higher ups were getting rid of loose ends.
Fun Fact: Anaheim Electronics actually exist IRL. They're a auto company in California. I've seen the reviews, they're about what you'd expect.
Just wait until mobile suits come to existence
Car company: We are taking this ship towards a new direction 🤑
Lol I remember looking them up
Toyota when they sell their car to middle east area 🤐
@@van1889….Fair play.
So is rockyfeller.. i mean romafeller like foundation . And PETA
I'm surprised, that the Benerit Group from The Witch from Mercury wasn't mentioned. Given that they have literally become a military industrial congress, rather than complex. They instigated endless proxy wars on Earth to keep their enemies and rivals weak, all the while making a profit from the conflicts. Then again, I suppose the anime didn't showcase much of that aspect of the story.
as I understand, the proxy wars they cause and maintain were part of a system they established to help manage and regulate the scale and intensity of conflicts between Earth and Space, as grudges between the two, especially Earth, still lingered
the Benerit Group would have fully become Anaheim, though, had Shaddiq's plan succeeded since he wanted to instigate a true, big war to profit from
1:47
Oh God.... No wonder a lot of parents ended up building Gundams for their children in the Universal Century!
Amuro Ray, Kamille Bidan, Seabook Arno, Banagher links, Uso Ewin, and Bellri Zenam.
Less of a question and more of a request: would you like to make a tier list to decide which faction has the best uniform and/or pilot suit design?
Titans would win by a landslide
@@stag1739 I know that the edge lords win by default, but it would still be interesting to watch the rest of them.
I would vote for ZAFT, so long as there's evidence that Lunamaria's skirt was a uniform variant and not just her redcoating it up.
Yes please.
The Sleeves win by default.
Of all the Gundam antagonists you know of, which of them did you felt truly disgusted by the most? To the point of you have no sympathy to their actions and upbringing.
And which of them do you think you can relate to the most, from your personal life experiences to theirs?
Lady Prospora.
I will NEVER apply the term 'Mother' to that woman in any shape or form.
And the fact Sulleta and Erict were willing to forgive her by the end REALLY made me mad.
Even had to replace my monitor due to... my reaction being a bit stronger then intended.
@@MasterSwo-MK it’s a fair opinion I can agree with.
What of your most relatable antagonist in Gundam, personal experience and emotionally wise?
(P.S. I did not think I would get a reply comment from this chat this soon thanks!)
@@krg-diver4655 Most relatable?
Mmmm... now that's a tough one.
... I got nothing.
Basically all of the Titans major leadership. They're just such patently obvious extreme right wing fascists just waiting to use war for personal political gain. None of them are shown to have any redeeming traits that I've seen. All of them were willing to kill innocents on purpose to make a point or just to terrorize their enemies.
For individuals though, the leader of Blue Cosmos in Seed. I know they tried to make it seem like it was his inferiority complex and he was bullied blah blah blah. The dude had a hard on for mass murder and was delusional to boot. He was willing to kill and maim his own people to do it. Was willing to let the Earth starve just to kill the coordinators.
In terms of hateable its gotta be a tie between Ali Al Saachez (damn he’s so brutal) and Iok Kujan (bro threw so much he became a lobber)
In terms of relatable it’s hard but im going to say Shinn Asuka (he doesnt have many redeemable aspects as of now but you gotta give it to him, the Gundams took away his family (parents and lil sister), friends (Heronimus), and lover (Stella), and him sinking the mighty Freedom Gundam (the strongest gundam at that time) was the perfect revenge for him)
I think Anaheim and their nefarious activities in the UC could be expanded into a whole video. Your Gundam lore videos are the absolute best I've seen.
I'm beginning to think that neither the Zeon, nor the titans, nor the Crossbone Vanguard(which became the protagonist faction thanks to Crossbone Gundam), nor the Zanscare Empire was the real antagonists of the Universal Century, but it was actually Anaheim Electronics was the real antagonist of the UC Timeline. AE was literally the Supervillain of the Gundam UC
I wouldn't agree. They're opportunists and greedy. But it wasn't them who did things like colony drops and gas attacks. The person who hands the killer the weapon is to blame yes, but the person ACTUALLY killing still is the bigger issue.
I would argue that AE isn't even evil per say. It's a corporation and this is the problem with corporation. They are designed to make money, everyone who works for them is designed, trained, brainwashed even, to put corporate profit as goal #1.
AE was a weapons company. So it looked at the state of the world and said: if things go this direction we stand to make more money - let's invest in that route.
It's the problem with making weapons production be a for profit enterprise, rather than a state controlled for defense only system.
They are not villain but they do supply those baddies with guns and equipment they just businessman doing business
Anaheim only asks one question "did your check clear?"
I think Saachez is the overall worst because, unlike the others, he enjoyed violence for the sake of violence and not some higher cause or goal. He's like the Joker in that he revels in the chaos and death he wreaks while everyone else is just a means to achieve it.
I also have a question that's been bugging me for years. What happened to Dorel Ronah after F91? The last time we see him, he's leading an attack against the Federation and then he just disappears. Also, how do you feel about the Iron Mask is Angelo Sauper fan theory?
Just got done watching Turn A a few weeks ago and Guin Sard Rhineford is definitely one of them, lol. He makes claims that it's all to further technological evolution, but nearly every episode shows that to hardly be the case.
Unless I missed the comment, I haven't seen anyone mention how in Unicorn they actually point out that the Federation and Zeon's weapons are compatible with the other side because they're all made by Anaheim.
I have a question regarding Anaheim. In the Gundam manga “Johnny Ridden no Kikan” Council man Gopp reveals that Anaheim only bought HALF of the assets of the former Principality MS companies because the Federation joined the auction hoping to prevent Anaheim from getting those assets, or at least not get all of them.
What Anaheim did with its half is plain as day obvious, but what did the FEDERATION do with its half of the assets of the MS companies?
It probably became SNRI.
@@Echo_419 that or went to the Titans. But then again Gopp does mention SNRI later in the manga
@@TerminatorGundam300 most if not all of the Titans machines came from Anaheim.
@@Echo_419 Leased production of Anaheim designs? Anaheim does the research, Federation yards do the production?
the one issue with this is where is the money coming from? Investing in both sides sounds like a good idea on the surface. Double the bang for your buck, but as one side starts to lose the war their ability to pay for everything starts to come into question, and suddenly you're stuck holding the bag on a bunch of war material that for all intents and purposes is useless and won't make money off of. And if your solution in fixing this mess is to stir another conflict... well now we run into the old issue, where is the money coming from?
Finances can be split into liquid and non-liquid assets, Anaheim would want liquid assets such as stocks, bonds, treasury notes, and cold hard cash something they can convert into money in less than 90 days and put into their own accounts or into their own stock portfolios. But generally, no state has all the cash on hand to buy everything up front, so this shit is done on Credit... and if one side loses paying back debts to war profiteers is usually at the bottom of the barrel unless that company has a private military strong enough to come collect. So Anaheim supporting both sides is eating a major profit loss everytime they do this crap XD
As much as we like Japanese cartoons here, Japan as a country hasn't been geopolitically active or relevant(other than as supporting role to someone else's initiative), since the end of WW2, even Tomino was a lil' brat at that time. Most Japanese authors simply don't have that good of a grasp on certain geopolitical or military industrial topics.
Its like asking a guy who cant drive and has only seen racing on TV to write about a driver; sure he can do all the research but in the end, its not the complete picture.
THX for answering my question and in return subscribed to your channel; I never expected Romefeller to be among the ranks of greedy warmongers though.
Anaheim Electronics "The REAL villains of the Universal Century "
So is Nina Purpleton (Gundam 0083) a villain now??
Yup, especially after what she did
After all she was involved in making the Nuclear armed GP02A (although she probably didn't mean for Gato "The Nightmare of Solomon " to steal and use the nuke later)
Always has been
Ali al Sachez, Sundowner: GIVE WAR A *CHANCE~*
**RED SUN, RED SUN OVER PARADISE~**
what about those mobile suit manufacturing companies in The Witch From Mercury?, there were some characters that were warmongers in it too, right?
There wasn’t really much warmongering going on . At least we don’t see it . Just business people trying to monopolize a group corporation. We don’t see characters encouraging warfare to continue conflicts for profit . They aren’t focused on much.
If you want an example of warmongering then take a look at Armored Core corporations, those corporations make WfM corporations look like sissies and they are the government and get in direct conflict with each other
The Gundam Thunder Thunderbolt manga series has a bit more info of Anaheim Electronics
anaheim electronics is literally lockheed martin, northrop grumman and general electric all in one lmao
Anaheim Electronics Salesmans really love playing War Games against each other.
God damn Scott McNeil was so good as 00's biggest bastard.
In a similar way to how you detailed the original plan of the Archangel and the 5 Gundams can you discuss what the original plan for the UC Project was? And, if you'd like, could you explain how you believe Psychoframe technology was phased out from 0096 - 0123?
Just like Patriots from Metal Gear, soild make money on conflicts in war.
The evil was Bandai all along
Here's how to solve the natural/coordinator conflict in the Cosmic Era: 1)develop a process to turn people alteady born into coordinators;
2) Make the procedure free.
Still going to get reactionary bigots, but they will be less numerous. Though that means it will be a higher concentration of radicals.
I have a question that I think could make for an interesting video. Were that any Mobile Suit/Gundam development projects that were viewed as abject failures, and if so, why?
Dude you look like Io from Gundam Thunderbolt with that hair lol love your vids man keep up the good work
Create more mobile suits, sold it to different factions, start more wars, gets more money. Cycle repeat itself.
Yay QOTW series is back
that NG X divider in the background nice grab
Felt a bit that you missed Nobliss Gordon and the Benerit group.
Anaheim: you need mobile suit, this, you there also need? this, everyone got mobile suit
11:10 It was at this moment that she knew. She. Fucked. Up.
Oh yes, Anaheim electronics, a company whose motto may as well be: you don't care who wins as long as we get paid
Ah, the 34th rule of acquisition: War is good for business.
Anaheim Electronics is the Raytheon/Northrop Grumman/Lockheed Martin of Gundam. They are *the* military industrial complex
dub saachez sounds like a bond villian without the british accent. then sub is a total psychpath
So early ae hasnt taken over everything yet
Watch out, they're currently trying to acquire your account
Anaheim: possibly the closest thing the universal century has to true villains.
Pretty sure the word they were looking for is Black Merchant.
Edit: War profiteering would actually be the right word.
The term the user meant to use was “War Profiteer”
I would say the Jegan and Geara Doga are actually pretty evenly matched, with the Jegan probably having the upper hand slightly. In the case of the Second Neo War (CCA) I actually think Londo Bell had the disadvantage in numbers, specially considering they were the only ones to be using the Jegans and fighting Char. In my mind, the reason why the Geara Dogas seem to perform better is the fact that Newborn Neo Zeon (just gonna refer to them as Neo Zeon now) probably had better pilots, sure Londo Bell had the Elite of the Earth Federation and AEUG, but by that time there weren't that many good AEUG pilots left thanks to them leaving to another faction, dying or retiring after the First Neo Zeon War. The Federation Pilots weren't in a better state either, with most of the good federation pilots being on the Titans and most of the veterans on the First Neo Zeon war not having that much experience since the actual Federation Forces didn't really engage Haman or Glemy's faction as much. Even at the end of ZZ, they are literally too late and the battle was already won by the few remains of the AEUG/Gundam team.
On the other hand you had Neo Zeon which had battle hardened Axis Zeon pilots, some AEUG pilots that probably defected, veteran Zeon pilots and more damming than all, Cyber-NewTypes. Let's put it in another way, Neo Zeon pilots were probably used to handling powerful MSs like the Zaku IIIs, Doven Wolfs, the Gaza series, Dreissens, Galluss Js, Bawoos, Zaku IVs, etc. Most Federation Pilots and AEUG pilots had Nemos and GM IIIs as their best standard issue MS, with aces maybe having the Nouvel GM III and Zeta plus series. Even if we count the Moon Gundam stuff, Londo Bell was really outclassed in terms of pilots, although in all fairness in moon gundam Neo Zeon had the better MS hands down.}
This is exemplified by the fact that if you gave a competent pilot any of the Federations machines they could go toe to toe with similar Neo Zeon machines. Even Amuro, yes I know it's unfair to use Amuro as an example but bear with me, almost destroyed one of the Neo Zeon's top MS, the Jagd Doga, with his ReGZ alone. It was only char who came and eventually saved Gyunei.
Was writing all of this worth it because of a single slide on the video about fictional space robots? No... but atleast it was fun to think about.
I don't know about that Logos story, it doesn't make sense for me. I don't imagine ZAFT buying weapons from naturals.
Anaheim Electronics is the Military Industrial Complex on Steroids and that’s saying something.
War profiteer would be closer to the original question
Surprised that he didn't mention Serpent Tail from SEED ASTRAY where they literally a mercenary for hire.
BUT. While they do fight for money, they also tend do not enjoy said fighting. For Serpent Tail being a Mercenary is a job and not a lifestyle choice like Sanchez.
@@robertdrexel2043 Gai Murakumo calls Saachez a disgrace to all mercenaries in SD Gundam Cross Rays
Anaheim Electronics or what happens when Amazon and Space X were merged in our universe.
Anaheim did some crazy shit man
That said, they did give us some nice suits in return.
While Amazon does have a lot of control over our lives, it is as the mega middle man. Anaheim not only producing things, but best in class quality manufacturing... the comparison doesn't work.
Edit: Anaheim forgot a crucial rule of Acquisition. Peace is also good for business.
So Anaheim was basically the General Electric of the Universal Century
I almost missed this video in my feed. Not a great thumbnail. I honestly only looked at it BECAUSE I couldn't tell what it was at a glance and was pleasantly surprised it was your video.
But this is a fun topic that I would love a deeper dive into sometime. But at the same time it also kinda feels like it touches on some topics that might provoke issues with real world topics too. So tread carefully. lol
The "because logic" cracked me up
Ironically in the real world arms manufacturers don't want war because they need to make stuff that works
10:58 *RED SUN,RED SUN OVER PARADISE*
Meanwhile in opposite sides
*Red moon, red moon...*
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*Cleanses the sinful and makes them anew...*
*Shining brightly in the night sky*
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waiting for the souls...*
*Who will be born again tonight?*
*Who will be born again tonight?*
Love your work Kakarot197 huge fan got a request for some videos could you do 10 best villains in Gundam either UC or AU or both same thing applies to top 10 best fights in Gundam if possible id love to see those 4 videos someday?
Let not forget the Jovian Empire paying dor all those fancy Zeon MS. Great video.
Not really a question but mkre of a request: can you explain the history of mercenaries in the gundam franchise?
So AE is like the Mitsubishi Zaibatsu if it wasn't forced apart into loose association by Anti-trust laws.
Far worse than that
2:50 so you’re saying Anaheim became like Pepsi. Or dole.
Banana republic’s were a thing.
"War Profiteers" would be a better term.
Is Junk Guild and Serpent Tail counted as Warmongers as well?
How are both sides able to produce so many different units in such a short span of time?
The US still uses decade old fighter jets just fine but it seems in Gundam, even a month old machine is dated.
Suspension of disbelief. Sorry, there's just no good answer for it. Zeon made more iterations, prototypes, variants, new models, etc in one year than even WWII Germany did in WWII. And Zeon was playing with far more experimental technologies.
Huh strange, you would think corporations from Witch from Mercury would be in here? I guess not.
AE creates mobile suits for EF but the suits get "stolen"
It's almost like the anime is trying to tell us something.
it is, lol the Anaheim E. literally the equivalent of American Weapon manufacturers irl, if there's a war there's a profit
QoTW: why did Earth Sphere rely on Helium-3 mined out from Jupiter when would be easier and cheaper do it on Luna?
Here is all the gundam warmongers.
Treize KHUSHRENADA, Ali AL-SAACHEZ, Dorothy CATALONIA, Gym GHINGHAM, Olba FROST, Patrick ZALA, Fezarl EZELCANT, Fixx BLOODMAN, Seidel RASSO.
I have always wondered. Where did you get your jacket? Love it
You know, I once read a post that said Anaheim Electronics (AE) is no different from Electronic Arts (EA)...which now that I really took the time to think about it, it kinda makes sense in a way.
Both AE and EA have made bad decisions before...looking at you ReGZ and every EA game ever
Nah, AE makes quality products in a diverse range. EA is known for making bad video games that expect continual revenue.
Ali-al Saachez!
The answer is and always will be Anaheim. ALWAYS.
Hmm is that and x with an harmonica shield in the background
Anaheim the equivalent of general electric
well the warmongers was Bandai
I think if you touched the IBO but not mention the tekkadan is a huge mistake. They are fit in every definition of a Warmongering group of mercenary up until Orga's dead.
I need a review of that Gundam X please
War profiteer would be a better definition for most of the larger groups
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how about the Jupiter Energy Fleet? they sell you know the Helium 7 for making Minovsky Reactors that powered said Mobile Suits.
Why did AE not get arrested. Did the federation and zeon even know what Anaheim was doing?
They are too powerful and could bribe the Federation politicians.
Thats why Federation set up their own SNRI so they dont have to deal with AE.
What about the Benerit Group and Teiwaz?
Yazan: the man was born blood thirsty
THIRD! But also ANAHIEM ELECTRONICS they had SO MANY CHANCES TO JUST DO SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THE UNIVERSE.
So did Amazon and you know how that goes.