Total Drama Revenge of the Island THEN vs NOW!
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- The creation of the 4th season of Total Drama, from Total Drama Reloaded, to characters like Molly, to what we know now as Total Drama Revenge of the Island!
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Additionally, it makes more sense for Lighting to spend an entire season thinking a girl is a guy if her name is Jo, whereas it would’ve been a bit of a stretch for Lightning to think “Mary” was a boy all season.
@JoGeJo maybe, but I still think Jo was a safe call.
The name is transferred to Mary, a genius in The Ridonculous Race.
Hi
@@14td84 go away Luis, we know it’s you
@@thatpillowguy773 wow bro you got the whole squad laughing 😐
Original Mike looking like Shaggy from Scooby Doo do but doesn't have nowhere near as much power
svetlana tho
@ribenafangirl lmao
The malevolent shag
and jo looking like goldie locks and a pro at roblox
To be fair, mal could stand a chance cause he op as stupid
So Mike use to look like Shaggy from Scooby-doo.
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT TOO LOL XD
Shaggy's doppelganger! Lol!!
Dang, now all I can hear is “ZOINKS ZOEY! Let’s get out of here *proceeds to Scooby Doo run* “.
Dang someone beat me to it. But yea his beta design looks so much like Shaggy. Makes me wonder if people would've noticed that if they kept it.
*Yeah bassicly...*
It’s kinda interesting how diverse the Total Drama cast was before that was really a thing people pushed hard for in television. I appreciate that tho
Not only that, the body type diversity is also one of the reasons this show is awesome. Like, some female characters have a slim hourglass figure, while some have curves and some have muscles. The same thing goes to the male characters
i honestly like diversity more in old shows (like magic school bus) than new ones because it feels more earnest (not saying diversity in newer shows is bad, or even ingenuine, just that sometimes "token representation" is incredibly egregiious)
^ these three comments are cool.
It makes it more... natural. Most shows nowadays, you can FEEL them trying to be "woke" and "inclusive". This show NEVER felt that way. It always felt natural af.
I think this is because older shows that had diverse casts felt it was important, but now shows use diversity as a marketing tactic
God I would’ve loved for Brick to be given more attention as a character, he’s easily my favourite. Out of all the butchered characters in All Stars, Brick would’ve been perfect for the ‘Heroes’ team
finally someone agrees with me
Brick was actually considered to be in All Stars but he was replaced with Gwen (idk why, they could have just replace Sam)
@@husariuspl117 even then fuck Gwen’s inclusion. I love Gwen but the way they butchered just wasn’t worth it. At least Sam had his moments. I guess they needed one more villain and Brick couldn’t fit that role which is such a shame :/
@@UncleHyena I mean Gwen was better then in World Tour and at least she ended up getting 3 new friends, All Stars tried to fix Gwen after what they did to her in WT (or rather what CN did to her)
@@husariuspl117 I think her dynamics with other characters like Cameron was fun but yuck, I couldn’t stand her subplot with Courtney. Both were just so incoherent as characters anymore like they never watched the first season
3:01 That is such a cute character. I feel like they should’ve used her in roti as a different character going on the mutant maggots. I think it’s unfair that’s a Mutant Maggots got six members in the toxic rats got seven
You mean Molly? I loved that design, and kinda ship her with trent
@@ShinyShilla is molly the one with the black short hair?
@@LA_4_Life_Lovez yes!
@@ShinyShilla she mentioned the one with red hair
@@princessofvideoshorts9897 ya.she right,Molly is also cute but I meant the one with the glasses and red ribbon
I REALLY liked Molly's design.
Gives off a tomboy like vibe.
When reloaded designs were leaked someone also revealed some personality traits and I remember she was like some weird kleptomaniac
And that trait kind of became part of Dawn's character well she's not kleptomaniac but she was framed as one
@@thomaszloi9444 explains the odd shell she's holding
she looks like L from death note
@@johnnypeepants. true
she reminds me of a human version of Mae from night in the woods
Another thing interesting about Brick is that, as seen in his concept art, he was actually meant to been an antagonist who was a lot more harsh and blunt toward the other campers. However, they pretty much gave that personality trait to Jo instead.
Also Zoey looks pretty antagonistic-ey
Brick originally looks more bossy and perhaps smarter? More like scott.
Btw Old Scott/Brick’s “necklace” is actually dog tags. They’re basically military identification. Makes me wonder if Scott was going to be a military guy like Brick ended up being.
Could be he was going to be a reservist guy or something that green was the old undershirt to the CAF army uniform. Who knows though could just be a coincidence
who else thought dawn deserved better
Me. She and B were awesome characters. Unfortunelly they were eliminated way too soon, with Dawn having one the most forcefull eliminations of all. They should had last some more episodes.
Me!!!!!!! My 11 years old self had a huge crush on her and I can tell you I was immensely disappointed when she got eliminated after a mere 3 episodes.
Me!!
I think Dawn is a unique and original character with a lot of pottential and yeah, her elimination was pretty unfair
Brick, B and Dawn should have been in All Stars
I really love what they did with dakota, the reason she's so iconic is because she always looked like a paris hilton rip-off. Her beta design was cute but not really her style, i'm glad they used it to make the zoey we know and love.
Agreed
Maybe CA Scott was supposed to be like Brick but a bit meaner.
Think of it like putting Heather, Duncan, and Brick all into one character and giving that person Scott's features.
I imagine that early scot with dog tags and a dark green tank top as a smarter, more psychopathic and manipulative, more physically intimidating villain who takes the role as the main antagonist by a long shot, would have been cold but probably too skilled of a villain that would block out the image of smaller antagonists in the season.
Honestly the change for diversity really helped the show for me when I was little. Me and Mike aren’t the same ethnicity (my family is Mexican) but seeing a character with the same skin tone as me made him really special for younger me and probably helped him be one of my favorite total drama characters point blank. Also makes it feel more like an actual reality show where it feels like they actually picked a bunch of people from different backgrounds from the pool of auditions instead of pre-making them you know
Wow I thought i was the only person who felt like that same
Hey my families Mexican as well, and yeah I related to him hard core
I’m black but same
I'm a light skinned Mexican but I still felt connected to Mike cuz I thought he was probably Mexican cuz of his skin tone 😅
Same here but chinese
5:39 I never noticed Mal in the background until now
Anyone else notice that both Zoey’s had red bracelets? Just me?
It seems that molly and zoey merged
Yeah, they did. Also they both had diamond earrings.
I did
I did as well!
Here is something you forgot to mention, during the development of Revenge of the Island, the season was supposed to come out in 2011, there is actually a teaser trailer made back in 2011, it was delayed because of the Fukushima earthquake that happen in Japan the crew made a few changes such as removing mention radioactive to toxic.
Oh woah that’s a cool fact!
2:22 - Stacy
3:11 - Zoey
3:35 - Anne Marrie
3:59 - Dakota
4:22 - Jo
4:45 - Mike
5:54 - Lightning
6:08 - Scott
Thank you
I thought one of Zoey's designs was for Dawn. And what about Beverly?
@@NathanTagalicorn12345 i don't think he had a beta design
@@NathanTagalicorn12345he didn’t have a beta design, dj’s camp tv design was the base for it, then they reworked it
You know that's racist of Mike's part
I recognized that beta cameron is the twin from Ridiculous Race almost instantly before he even said it- Maybe they will use Beta designs for newer seasons. If there will be newer seasons.
Total drama liked reusing beta designs and I can see why it saves a lot of time
They did it for B.
@@Enteringdullsville Yep, B's design looks similar to DJ's Camp TV look
6:40 og cameron literally looks exactly like the twins from the ridonculas race just different clothes
I think Brick was meant to be the main antagonist looking at his concept design and Scott was meant to be the army cadet.
Zoinks Cameron, like how do I tell Zoey about my MPD?
Gotta be honest with her Raggy!
ruh roh
4:35 That's just Shaggy from Scooby Doo.
I wonder if old mike still had Svetlana, Manitoba, Chester, Vito, and mal.
Same
5:34 ✨excuse me are you a pickle?✨
Original zoe looks like she's going to say hay
Speaking of Mike's propotype design, his appearance inspires Jimmy in Jimmy Two Shoes. After that, his body stays the same and his details and colors changed. That's a nice reference we see.
Molly is wonderful
I want to see this design in the future with Original/Glass Zoey
I wonder what their personality would be like I remember reading that Dawn's voice actress auditioned to voice Molly and a "Zoey"
If it wasn’t for the theme song being released on CZcams before the season was promoted in America I wouldn’t have notice it was coming
4:43 Shaggy; the hell are you doing here?!
If scotts og design made it to the final release, he would remind me of current Brick
I also thought that because B didn't say much/last too long, they could've used that older/OG design as a self-reference and homage to how far they've come as a series
This could have been twice as good if there were 26 episodes.
26-27 Episodes and 20 contestants With Blainley as the new host since Chris got locked up, also I haven't seen the reboot yet but I think both the reboot and revenge of the Island missed the opportunity to have blainley as the host
6:50 is anyone gonna talk about this? HE’S LITRALLY MICKEY FROM THE RIDONCULUOS RACE!
He mentioned it in the video.
Ik I just commented this right before he said it
B's close resemblance to the camp TV "original DJ I guess", I saw that man as a camera man.
My theory: beta brick was going to be the main villain for ROTI while beta Scott was going to be a military cadet. Just my theory, but I think it’s plausible. Note how beta Scott had the dog-tag necklace that final-design brick has.
Nobody is gonna talk about Mike being Shaggy?
Wait since the new season is with a new cast. Do you think it’s possible they might use both beta zoey and molly be incorporated for new contestants? I just realized that in five minutes
I actually like the og zoey character, and what I think was left from her character was turned into jen from ridiculous race
I think the beta Zoey design resembles a little bit of Scarlet from Pahkitew but that could just be me
@@party11440 I mean I guess, I think you're only seeing the height
mike looks like hes about to solve a mystery 💀
Anyone else notice how old Cameron was very close to Mickey from the ridonculous race
I love that Mike voices light in the death note dub
And molly is just discount L
out there theory, scott and brick original concepts were switched, with Brick being the one from the out in the country and scot the military brat
then, during production, they inverted the thing with the updated design, lowered the brat-side of military brat and pushed directly to the country of the final version (and all-star) of scott
I'm in the middle of binge watching TD on Netflix, liked alot of the characters in Revenge of the Island, which is why I hate how we get so little of them. At only 13 episodes, we really didn't get to see them grow and evolve if they didn't make it into the next season. Wanted to see more of B, Dawn, Dakota(zoid), and even Brick.
4:37 For some reason I think Mike was supposed have glasses or be blind because of this pose in the OG design
zoey’s og design is so cute
Wait he said Mike was Italian, but when I was watching the show I thought he was Filipino, and I ended up googling it and a website I found said he was Filipino? I know he can be both since mixed kids exist, but that part confused me-
Zoe’s design also kept the red bracelets!
I honestly think most of the new designs just look so much more refined and ready to go. Old Molly looks kinda scene and I like that idea.
Mike today: I'm a tan Italian with MPD. I'm also dating Zoey and won All Stars in some places.
Mike then: *S H A G G Y S H A W N I N T E N S I F I E S*
Mike just turned into steve
Also, 'Molly's' design still has the came bangals as 'Zoe's' design which I really like they kept it
Holy shit OG Mike was literally just Shaggy
I wish they'd at least left the hipster glasses on Zoey. That would have at least given her one reason to be called "The Indie Chick". Then she could also be a bit more about not liking mainstream stuff, sort of like Gwen but with a more upbeat charm to her.
4:46 went from shaggy to raggy
I think Sam, B and Brick were the best of TDRI
I think Cameron, Mike, Chester, Manitoba Smith, Svetlana, and Zoey, were all good characters, too. But not Vito. Fuck Vito
B brick should be in all stars
@@propandapower7633 I agree
I can't agree most.
Personally dawn was on of my favorites
I like a lot of the old designs and new ones.
DJ's Camp TV design was also featured in the Ridonculous Race as a background character.
6:34
Oh I get it, Jay was supposed to be Cameron.
Mickey would have made more sense, he is more fragile
@@jaxixteenaren’t they both fragile?
I like how you have scenes of each character in the background.
Mikes first design looks like he’s blind 😂
4:54 im almost completely sure that i saw the pilot with that character design. I remember i walked into my older brother watching something in a summer camp and i remember a blond character with multiple personality disorder. When i watched the show, at the start i thought jeff had multiple personality disorder, since i watched it a few years later.
Facts: Gwen Zoey and Jo are among 3 characters who had their original names changed at some point:
Gwen as Heather
Zoey as Molly
Jo as Mary (The name of the Geniuses Girl Of TDRR)
And the only characters that didnt make it to the final cut in Total Drama Reuloaded are Dawn and B.
And also the Adversity Twins design of Jay and Mickey looked liked Cameron's original design.
I think Mikes old design looks more like Shaggy
Old variant Mike looks like Shaggy
To me looks like Francis from big nate
brick deserve to be in next season
Scott and brick might have been inverts of each other so brick would've been the Scott and Scott as brick
Cant believe we went from Shaggy to Steve.
While i think every change was for the better, i genuinely like Beta Zoey's design better than the final one, i don't know why.
I like both, while I prefer the change I hope that Zoey's beta design will be used in one of upcoming 2 seasons, looks cool in my opinion and would be a shame if it was wasted
I like beta zoey, and she gave off tomboy vibes
Agreed beta Zoey's design is actually really good. I never liked Zoey's real design it just seems too costumey and unrealistic. The final design also clashes with her non-existent personality.
@@QuackEasy the Zoey who's with mike
The Zoey we got is really weird as Lindsay design💀 I prefer the original one fr
I kinda Scott's beta design better, I also get the feeling Scott's character and Brick's character were swapped during development
Kneckless, Scott and Brick has Army dogtags indicating that Scott might have been a recruit as well as Brick
Beta Zoey is so cute, she actually looks like a dorky wierdo.
Can she make out with parrapa tho
I Like Scott's beard I think it would play into scott's role as villain visually
(Potential Spoilers)
Bricks head actually looks like a whistle, especially his early design.
Mike went from shaggy to steve from minecraft
About your channel, it was just recommend to me last weekend so I think the thing is CZcams is throwing your channel out there and people will look at it only to see if it's interesting.
Luckily I subscribed
Mike looks like Steve from Minecraft.
Mike really said "I was alex back then now I'm Steve" 💀
To make the roster equal, they should've added Molly.
It's weird how I've never seen someone talk about how there is 7 boys and 6 girls but they managed to eliminated 3 girls and 1 guy in the first 5 episodes. Leaving 2 times more guys than girls
(3 - 6)
So what if they did? The last 3 girls were pretty powerful (except for Anne Maria) I mean we all saw what Zoey's true potential is so...
@@mihaitavraciu2248 mm anne maria was alright, she just quit didn’t necessarily get voted off
@@mysteriousdora6914 yeah
Scott's beta design could legit pass as Scott's older brother
man I gotta go back and watch ALL of this
So Mike's voice actor who voices Mike and his multiple personalities also voices Jimmy two shoes? I didn't need to know that! Dear god Jimmy two shoes such a bad show! Dear god!
Wasn’t Jo’s original name given to a familiar character from The Ridonculous Race?
Mary (Geniuse Girl of TDRR partnered with Ellody)
I watched Jimmy Two-Shoes, how could I not have noticed the similarity in voice?!
Did anyone else notice the mal face at 5:40
So....did anyone else see Mal behind Mike at 5:43?
5:40 mal is that you
pause at 5:40 (or at least around that time) theres this flash of a character behind him 0_o
Around 5:39 if you watched total drama all stars you could see mal
2:51 like u said a great design that COULD be used
The before Mike looks like shaggy lol
I also noticed that the early Molly/Zoey and the final have the same red bracelet
7:52 Camp TV Is Actually Even Crazier Than TDR Some Look NOTHING Like The Final
I love your vids keep it up
Molly also shares two red bracelets and diamond earrings.
Him: My theory why the design is change, It’s because it resembles another cartoon character named Jimmy Too Shoes
Shaggy: I’m a joke to you?
POV you’re VGmarkis:
--------------. Get it because of the glasses
Im kinda glad that some of the characters look better in the final product than they do in the development looking at you staci
I love total drama, I never miss an episode and right now I’m watching total drama all stars
Yeah... I knew I remember B from Total Drama Action. He was on 2 or 3 episodes as some kind of low-level technical worker of the show (moving things, cleaning etc.) I rewatched few first episodes on CZcams and his first appearance is on episode 3 and his design is almost completely the same as in 4th season. Personally I know it could a longshot but I want to see kind of development for this character like this all appearances in past seasons wasn't accidentally (Even if they in really was) by making this part of his lore.