Part-Off Like a Pro! - Haas Automation, Inc.
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- Product Specialist Bhop Singh is back again. This time he gives us the inside scoop on parting off on your lathe using the tools available on HaasTooling.com.
Bhop also gives several tips for getting the best out of your part-off operation, and even a recipe for dealing with those stubborn gummy materials that really don't want to chip correctly.
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I learned a number of things here; parting has been unpredictable for me and a bit of a mystery-Thank you.
Solid info and too bloody true that parting off, as the last step, is the one most likely to trash a perfectly decent part.
When he tried to put it in the turret assembled I’m like, yep, relatable
Had the same issue. I drilled and tapped two holes in the top of the tool holder for set screws. Problem solved.
Wow didnt know about pecking for the part-off tool , nice, but as you said it uses the insert much faster
cut-off tool...sounds sharp to me. Cant wait to get hands on work with SL10 CNC Lathe....small things can make big differences
Indian with a Scot's accent- love it
Very helpfull . I will apply the knowledge on a DMG Lathe soon 😀
We could use two of those at C-TEC of Licking County ... One for each SL10 that the school has. Would be great for our current CNC project.
I love the haas lathe videos
Really clear this guys spent some time turning.
proper iso material code: gummy material 🤣
Only lacking proper units of measurement, like Feed rate 0,00001 football fields
Hey up there lad!
Nice to see a US company using a regional British accent!
This feels like a really weird episode of Coronation Street, and i like it!
I was parting-off 40mm 304 stainless with 2mm insert primarily for low-alloy steel, oh man, let´s say, that insert was getting beaten on every part with coolant spraying on the face of the part :D
Good work , i did it with taegutec tool on production
8:50 you can see clearly the parting blade wobbling up & down from trying to cut that material. Lots of factors affect this, but material really shows up as a problem as well as the lack of coolant because demo.
i think youll find thats the reflection of the jaws
the hell u talking about. So called 'wobbling' is the filming artifact from the jaws. The groove made is absolutely clean
Nice video 👍
Cool vid wating for some tips how to make good thread if machine doesnt have zero XD
6:37 Small detail I know, but why write T707 in its own block? I always write it together with the above data, so for example G96 T707 S500 M3.
I am using the 2mm blade to part off a pc 1.75"D 304 Stainless using less than the required stick out at .091 dialed in with a tenth indicator and the cut off tool deflects to the z positive every time. As I thought it might due the the angled insert..... Any suggestions?
Now get me a good surface finish!!
I don't know if they changed it back to a safer way, but the G50 clamp speed has to be after the tool call on some Haas lathes! Super dangerous, so make sure to program your Haas lathe correctly.
Walter makes a blade holder that bolts right to the BMT turret and is much thinner profile. Fits really nice between both spindles. Has thru blade coolant on top and bottom of the insert and a nozzle right above the blade that shoots right down the groove.
nice should link that.
@@Shockdagon I couldn't find it on their website but it's in the catalog I have at work. If you're really interested I can post the Blade, Holder, and insert numbers tomorrow
@@inuyashacoolieo is it the 2042P?
@@SuperAWaC just search BMT on Walters website. Then you should see Blade adapters. They have all kinds like VDI and BMT45, BMT55, and BMT65. I forget if you want the left or right hand. I use the one that puts the blade closer to the Main spindle.
@@SuperAWaC A2110-BT65-32R-083-P I believe. -32L-P would be left hand version
Variable speed turning or Spindle Speed Variation (SSV) would help with surface finish. simple G50 speed clamp code that tells the controller to live calculate surface feed depending on its diameter while cutting.
i there's a cutting width of 0.5 mm ???
please reply
Is it available in india?
I know this is off topic, but I am in the process of looking at a Haas ST35LY for our factory. Now I new to dealings with Haas, I am mainly Mazak and Okuma machines, so I would some feedback from current owners on their machine. I am putting my neck out by even thinking of recommending a Haas machine. Thanks
If you are used to mazaks and okumas then you will be sorely disappointed with this disposable garbage. You want to stay as far away from this cheap crap as you can get. You are putting your neck out by even thinking of recommending a haas. There is no corner left uncut at this joke of a company.
Nothing beats an Okuma lathe period. Programming a Haas lathe at the console sucks. Also, they're not rigid and lack torque.
@@enispenvy9174 Thank you for you reply, it will help win my point of opinion with the manager that cheap isn't always best.
@@chris_schenkel Thank you for you reply, it will help win my point of opinion with the manager that cheap isn't always best.
Nice
It would be nice to have some TL-1 or 2 options! Looking for a cutoff of 6.25 inch options.
That's deep. I usually saw cut things over 3 to 4" diameter on my manual lathe because things start getting really tricky at those depths.
Upside down tool with high pressure coolant and an enclosure - perhaps not so bad!
Catching that part wouldn’t be easy!!!
@@thomashenderson3901 ok so you say 2,6inch /65mm is doable for production? I am currently having the issue for machining a Cover for a small container in volume out of steel.
@@Hendreh1 Yes, I would say so.
All depends on the set up / overhang and the rigidity of the machine.
I used to really hate parting until I discovered proper carbide tipped parting blades, now it's only an occasional danger!
Best advice I could give is to support the workpiece as long as you can with the tailstock, but as you're about to finish, take the pressure right off until it barely touches and then finish the cut, that way the blade doesn't get jammed.
And always use the least tool overhang you can get away with to minimise vibration.
I have a metric machine my block would be 25mm not 1 inch
Plus are these links relatable to the Haas uk market your accent makes me think yes but please confirm
I need a part off facility for the ST 30 Bolt on turret 12 station but cannot seem to find a tool such as you describe which dismantles
Can you put link up for UK site please
Philip, Great question! At present we are working hard to have HaasTooling products available for continental Europe by the end of this year. We are farther out on defining how/when we will bring HaasTooling to the UK.
@haas pls share tips spindle speed & feedrate following material
Uchi Miro San, At 6:36 in the video Bhop mentions he's running 500 SFM (160 SMM) and 0.008 IPR (0.2mm).
厉害了 羡慕
Hello, I am asking for Polish subtitles for Your Tips of the day
It doesnt fit in the turret assembled?
Fire the engineer that designed it, fidling around with screws in a dirty cnc machine sucks ass vs. fully setting up the tool on the bench.
This is a super old design that most other tool companies have gona away from, you can still buy blades from pretty much any tool company, but they all have much better systems now.
You probably got ! The Wrong Turret
How to you slow the feed when getting near the center?
Just command your regular feedrate and feed to X0.2 then type X-0.020 F.001 or whatever feerate you want.
cool
See I like using G75 but the issue is the feed is continuous all the way past x0.0, gotta be on point turning the feed down by hand when it gets close. I reckon this is when the majority of the tool wear happens
when it gets closer to the center as speed drops without increasing RPMs.... I´m parting off with just G01 and G00 with chamfer/radius in few lines, maybe you can set it this way, let it go at F0,15 (mm/rev) maybe to X10 and then drop it down to F0,08 for example to X-2
(part is 30mm in dia, needs to be 30mm long)
G54 T0505;
G92 S2200;
G95 G96 S120;
G00 Z-30 M03; (finish lenght because I have zero point set on the right side of parting insert instead of left)
G00 X31 M08;
G01 X27 F0,12;
G00 X31;
G00 Z-29;
G01 X30 C1;
G01 Z-30;
G01 X10;
G01 X-2 F0,05;
G01 X31 F0,5 M09;
G28 U0;
G28 W0;
M05;
M30;
this is example from how I´d write part-off with just reduced speed towards centre where your machine hits it´s maximal set spindle speed (just look at it at first on which X value it maxes out) on our Fanuc 0i-TC, few changes and you´ll do it in HAAS too.... I´m parting off like this everytime, just without slowing the feed towards the center :)
3:12 thats you done it 40 years?
how do i set up my parting blade, and we can do Y-axis parting?
Gerardo, On the HaasTooling Cut-Off Tooling webpage, click on the blade you require and there is a link to the technical details page. This linked page covers everything you need to know on how to set up your tool and blade. Plus other info like blade hang out recommendations.
To get you in the ballpark; here is a link to the 3mm Cut-Off Blade page: www.haascnc.com/haas-tooling/lathe_tooling/cut-off_tooling/01-0154.html
Although our Haas Y-axis machines are capable of Y-axis parting off, these tools are designed for X-axis parting off only.
Nic
Wow. I need that machine in my apartment living room.
are these parts made of unobtanium? Why are so expensive???
4:10 LOL if tool is that much off. machines is more beaten than ours. 0.5mm off is huge and its problem allready, but 3-5mm LOOOOOL
Какая - то тупая система зажима, не получится индикатором пройти по поверхности резца что бы настроить его перпендикулярно заготовке.
Ey up!
By gum
When all else fails, read the instructions.
Nice but bullsh.t!
Use Iscar TAG and SPEED IT UP!!!
No internal coolant and the blade is MUCH TOO LONG for speed and feed!
G75
Using a haas is the 1st mistake. Haas lathes are terrible at parting off.
I should know mine is down right now can't even use it until my blades come
How many machines do you own ? Stfu
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4:47 there is no room for plactic 40 year old tech when you cut next to chuck lol. why not there is cooland holes on holder LOL thats also old tech allready LOL
6:26 mamo jambo 60-250 sfm. well you on range just wing it LOL just tell this and this! well there is more on it but can manufracturers say this speed this feed LOL not huge range that BOSS think everything max is best LOOOOOL
This is parting: czcams.com/video/aEr1-UdHzfA/video.html
CNC < manual machinists
Thanks for the input mate
Let me guess, you couldn't learn how to run a CNC?
@@VictorHernandez-nt3tw Never tried. Us tool and die makers smoke you boys and your computer crap.
@@JETHO321 LOLOLOLOLOLOL! That's why you're all sour and cranky leaving irrelevant comments, thinking you are better than a certain group?
@@VictorHernandez-nt3tw Yes
6:38 G97 500 rpm? or G97 S500 or is it G95/G96 machine LOL lol. thats more than aluminium rouching LOL
aah nevermind its FEETS. come on metric is more acurate start use them lol
This guy's accent is so hard to understand sometimes. Good video though
Northern England, and if I had to guess I'd say Bradford area. Just takes a bit of tuning in. In the UK you only have to travel 3miles in any direction to get a new accent!
That's what you get for not wearing ear pro in the shop
@@thomashenderson3901 confirmed Bradford. I love the accent!
The Quiet Man is a 1952 American romantic comedy-drama film directed by John Ford. It stars John Wayne, Maureen O'Hara, Barry Fitzgerald, Ward Bond and Victor McLaglen
The match maker in this movie has an accent!
@@samsnavely5302 mmmmmmmkay...?
Good info . Im sorry, but he's accent is hard to listen to. 😢