The Land of Unpronouncable Names | The Family Tree of the Kings of Wales
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2021
- This video is a collaboration with CardinalConky. Check his video about the kingdoms of Wales before this family tree started: • The Kings of Powys (43...
Safe to say that I'm never going to pronounce any Welsh names ever again! In this video, I go over the family tree (part of it at least) of the Kings of Wales and its many kingdoms (Gwynedd, Powys, Dyfed, Deheubarth, and Seisyllwg). Enjoy!
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#wales #history #familytree #genealogy
never expected to see my bloodline on a video i was using for a school project.
Welsh names are wonderful.
To quote "Lord of the Rings" author J.R.R. Tolkien, "Welsh is beautiful". (Mae'r Gymraeg yn brydferth)
As someone who is writing a book about Deheubarth, this video helped me a lot! Thank you 😊
*Note: The Tewdwrs were actually the ancestors of the English House of Tudor, so even if the Kingdom of Deheubarth continued on, we would still end up with the English and later British monarchs.*
well mr.d the ap tewdars were originally schenschals of caernarvon castle, sometimes for and sometimes against rulers in powys, glyndwr and gwynedd: Lllewellyn...
Welsh history, is much like irish or scottish history,, anything but boring, more complicated and the tudors certainly were not the only claimants too the title *
Prince of the welsh or wales*, being that wales was very rarely united as one country, even during the wars of the cousins or roses...
the herberts of raglan castle* supported the house of york..( the house of york via mortimers princess gladus ddu*)
.. being that their ancestors were : kings of gwent and glamorgan too,
they could claim to be princes of south wales or princes of the welsh..., no great suprise, the herberts hated the : the tudors of penmaenydd...
how many kingdoms, lordships -major kingdoms, like gwynedd, deuhbarth, morgannwg, powys etc or lesser ones...
also until the act of rhuddlan , welsh law applied, the same one of king howel the good * hywell dda... ,.
eldest and youngest females and illegitamate children all had a claim, and in welsh history this applied, the anglo-norman and english eldest male* was a foreign concept to the welsh, irish, cornish....
the simmilar *taniste* , or * celtic inheritance* or who would be become Kings of scotland* , or the brehon laws in ireland...
was much more complicated , than just the eldest male, the oldest man, uncle, brother,nephew, grandson, child etc...
very progressive, but not at all norman,english or french lol...
@@jardon8636 *Even if the Tudors weren't the most prominent claimants for the throne of Wales, they are still descended from the original Welsh princes.*
@@mr.d8747 : yes your right mr D,
from the direct line of prince llewellyn the great,
ellen ferch countess of huntingdon, angharaf ferch and gwladus ddu, all in the family tree, but as they were female* just ignored...
they are just 3 descendants of Llewellyn the great overlooked, who under the laws of hywell dda... their sons or direct male relatives could claim...
into queen magaret tudor ( queen consort of scotland and sister of king Henry viii*) ...
it came too a end with the direct tudor to stuart male *jacobean line* of Prince Bonny charlie....
by the time of the hannoverians* , via female stuart line the..
tudor blood was very weak, the stuart blood was much stronger...
The Welsh House of England more like! They were genetically British. Not English.
I found out today that I am a direct decendant by father.
I was able to trace father by father back to around 350.
I knew my 6th great grandfather was named Richard Phillips but was only recently able to find marriage documents where it mentioned his father's name which was also Richard. He had been added to a family tree on a website called roots where I was able to trace him back by clicking the name under "son of". He was a traced back to the Welsh Sir Thomas Phillips who was the esquire for Henry vii.
Traced back further it led me to "Cydifor Fawr ap Collwyn, Lord of Blaen Cuch" and further who all seemed to be born in the same welsh castle.
Very cool to have finally been able to trace my roots to before 1829 lol
There is a male line of the Gwynedd royal house which survives to the present day. This line is descended from Rhodri II ab Owain, and is represented by Evan Anwyl of Tywyn who lives in Gwynedd, north Wales.
My family line goes to princess nest and before. Capt sam matthews was first to come to colonial virgina around 1600s
We are related. The current royal family stole princess nest from my ancestors
There is also the princess Lagos line survived here in the United States.
You know Llewelyn and jake are the homies
FYI, two l's ("ll") make a "hl" sound and two d's ("dd") make a "th" sound.
I am a Great Granddaughter to all these Kings on both sides through Llywelyn the Great and Fychan family lines. Its nice to see this tree lots of History here. Thank You ♡
We are related . My line goes to princess nest and before
I've always preferred mythology to history. History is truth that becomes an illusion. Mythology is an illusion that becomes reality.
― Jean Cocteau
Mkay
Hywell Dda is my direct ancestor
I haven't delved quite that far into my father's side, but my birth name is Howell. This video might spur me on to take a better look.
Same here 🙂
So Glad American s knows a little bit of the truth of Cymru.most only think Britons as english.look up Alan Wilson this will show you alot more!I'm a descendent of old Cymru kings.🏴
After months of research I recently discovered I’m related to a majority of these people.
Same capt sam matthews was first from England in my line to come to Virginia
It’s only the land of unpronounceable names, achos dy fod yn Americanwr, a ti ddim yn siarad Cymraeg! 😂
#TyMathrafal #PowysAmByth 🏴❤️💛
Howell for Hywel 🙂
Did Rhys Griffith and Katherine Howard have a son named William?
It's crazy to me that these people were my ancestors I'm only just finding this out recently my last name is meredith and it is actually just a English form of maredudd or gryffudd this is very fascinating to find out
SAME its crazy
I’m trying to find the right Tartan for the Hovey family as it originally came from the surname of ap Hwfa
Jake can u add me in . Capt sam matthews was first to come to colonial Virginia. I am related to all these
Have to comment as I am a Rice.
Nice 👍
I just wish I could know if I was related to Welsh Royals…
King Arthur is made out to be a myth by the English state to suit the English monarchy, in fact Arthur did exist, he was the king of Glamorgan and Gwent, he is listed in the Llyfr Teilo, the book of Llandaf, giving land grants to the church and bishop Gomerig which was stolen and now is in Litchfield cathedral renamed the book of Saint Chad, he was Crowned by Saint Dubrisius who is the welsh saint Dyfrig who had his church at Caerlion in South Wales, the family tree depicting hear is the family tree of the north walian kings, Saint Illtyd who was his cousin placed the body of Arthur in the cave near ewenny, read the life of Saint Illtyd, he was King Arthwyr the second, that’s his correct name, the confusion lies with a monk in west Wales who wrote his name Arthur instead of Arthwyr , you can’t tell a peoples who have been in their territory for three thousand and five hundred years that their history is wrong, it’s about time people read the truth
And welsh names are…um very hard
Welsh is a different language to English and has its own distinct sounds. English speakers tend to struggle with foreign names from any language not just Welsh.
King of the who?
The true royal lineage of Wales comes from Glamorgan and Gwent. Also, they aren't Welsh. These are British monarchs. The real British before the English managed to convince the world their Germanic Kings and Queens are. Their lineage Started from Brutus all the way to Caratacus, Magnus Maximus and to Howell Dda and Iestyn Ap Gwrgan. Ended with Owain Glyndwr in the 1400s.
Brutus wasn't real, he and his whole lineage back to Aeneas was a literary invention to be like the Frankish and Byzantine monarchs who claimed kinship with Rome's founders. Why that became more popular over the actual descent from an actual Roman Emperor e.g. Magnus Maximus I can't say. Also the furthest back in the male line recorded in the actual Welsh Genealogies for the King's of Gwent and latterly second Royal line of Morgannwg is Ynyr Gwent c.5th century. Whilst the first Royal line of Morgannwg in its earlier name form of Glywysing was traced back to Magnus Maximus in the male line, neither being male line descendants of Caratacus nor did they claim to be from the actual surviving Genealogies. The alternative genealogical line supposedly from Caratacus was forged by Edward Williams better known as Iolo Morgannwg of which most of his writings are pulled completely from thin air and his own imagination with the occasional use of actual Welsh sources to make them more believable of which that genealogy was not one. Iolo wanted his home county of Glamorgan (Morgannwg) to be more important to the History of Wales than they were, after a brief stint of being one of the larger Kingdoms in the 9th-10th centuries AD. Morgannwg or Gwent never really could claim to be the leading Kingdom which was Gwynedd in first followed by Deheubarth in second and Powys in third for much of Wales pre-conquest history, both fell to the Norman's quicker than any other Welsh Kingdom. Also Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett are as much frauds as Iolo making money off people who don't know about Welsh History through writing fictitious accounts in their "Histories" of it. Historically there were three major players of the many Brittonic Kingdoms that existed in the early medieval period that of Gwynedd which for most of its history dominated Welsh politics until the conquest of Wales in 1283 AD, Rheged which dominated the Brittonic North until its eclipse by Northumbria in the 8th century AD and Alt Clut and or its descendant Cumbria the last of the Northern British Kingdoms which was conquered by the Scots in the 11th century AD. The rulers of Gwynedd from the middle of the 9th century AD onwards were male line descendants of the early Kings of Rheged via its Southern branch which escaped destruction at the hands of the Northumbrians by seeking refuge in Wales, and female line descendants of the first Dynasty of Gwynedd. So as the House of Aberffraw are the senior provable male line heirs of the Coeling Kings of the North and the senior heirs of the early Gwyneddian Kings of the Britons via cognatic descent, I'd say that makes them the true Royal lineage of Britain by descent. A fact acknowledged by the Welsh bards when calling Owain Gwynedd "Heir to Britain's throne" as well as by the anachronistic tale of "How Maelgwn became King" where Maelgwn Gwynedd in which he was elected King of the Britons and was above all the other Kings of Wales and did not have to observe their laws but they had to observe his as well as the rulers of Deheubarth, Powys and Gwent had to give him tribute. Which is further established in the Iorwerth version of the Laws of Hywel which cites that tribute must be given from the rulers of Deheubarth and Powys to the King of Aberffraw e.g. the ruler of Gwynedd. This is also in the Dyfed version where only semi-equal status is claimed by the King of Dinefwr e.g. the ruler of Deheubarth. This is also true in the sense that all remaining Welsh princelings in 1216 AD swore fealty to Llywelyn the Great Prince of Aberffraw and Lord of Snowdon (the then reigning Prince of Gwynedd) at Aberdyfi acknowledging him as their Overlord. Whilst the vestiges of the Royal lines of Gwent and Morgannwg were reduced to being minor Lords or landless by the Norman invaders in the 11th century AD.
@@callumwynne5370 see Marco guy biblical britain decoded start with his earliest video
That thumbnail is sus homeboy
I'm related to the first king of Wales
Who is this first king ?
You must be a relative!
@@craigthomas652 As in a modern sense of what Wales is - i'd argue Magnus Maximus or Caratacus! If you're thinking ancient... most definitely Brutus.
There's not an Englishman in this land that can pronounce a single word in Welsh
Plz do best governors of each state
I’m currently working on a Worst Senators video, but Best Governors is coming after I promise
‘Kings’ of Wales? Welsh culture inherited the Roman distaste for the title of ‘king’ (brenin) and it was rarely, if ever, politically unified. This is why the term prince is more often used.
Think your far wrong.
Some Britons are descendents of Brutus of troy.basicaly Romans where the same as britons.there was roads, farming etc in briton way before Romans.
@@craigthomas652 indeed. The Brits (Welsh) had kings for centuries before the Germanic and Vatican lies.