Dear Nike.. | 2021 Neutral Grey Air Jordan Review / 1985 Comparison
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Finally, after 36 years, the 2021 Nike Air Jordan 1 "Neutral Grey" vs 1985 OG Air Jordan "Natural Grey"- In this review, we compare the new 2021 Neutral Grey Jordan 1 with an ORIGINAL 1985 Air Jordan Natural Grey. How does the remastered "85" compare to the 1985 OG? Find out what Nike got right and what still needs work in this 4K UHD in-depth review.
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Excited to see the aging video(s)!!
I already started on them so I wouldn't talk myself out of it lol
@@VintageKicksGallery Show us a toebox reshaping tutorial!
Just received my neutrals, eagerly awaiting the aging video!
@@VintageKicksGallery when you posting the video?🤔
Been waiting on this one for months! Cant wait!!
Idk man I still Love these retros. When you’re comparing two items that’s 35 years apart you kinda have no choice but to nitpick I guess lol
I actually paid resale for these because at this point the OGs in decent shape is out of my price range and I’m pretty impressed with them. The things that bother me most are definitely the toe box and the swoosh size. Really just two things they need to get right. Unfortunately I feel like Jordan brand will just copy and paste all the OG colorways onto this silhouette. I’d really like to see them do different shapes based on which factory the shoe came out of in 85 but I may be asking too much haha
Isn’t different shapes based on the 85 basically what the OG’s we have now are, and the original 85’s had that style swoosh while the toe box differed from the different factory’s back then
Great in-depth comparison. I do think that the “off-ness” of the Neutrals is they look way too new when everyone is used to seeing the older Naturals and has that bias
gee its almost as if its a new shoe😱
I just want to start off by saying this review is extremely informative and well done. Now for the shoe itself I am pretty sure Nike purposely didn’t make the shoe 1:1 and obviously I cant get a factual reason why, but my guess would be is to keep the OG’s sought after. I am 100% sure Nike could EASILY replicate the shoe 1:1 if they wanted to. Things I wish the retro pair did 1:1 is the overall appearance of the shoe down to the same size check, same painted collars, printed wings logo, and toe box shape while making it more comfortable to wear.
TLDR: Nike didn’t make it exactly the same on purpose and definitely could if they wanted to. I wish overall appearance was the same but having optimized materials for comfort.
I found that when I stained the retros in coffee for about a day it actually makes the embossing of the wings logo far less deep and prominent so that’s a good way to give the white leather a warmer tone and make the wings logo closer to the OG
how many hours did you leave it and how strong was the coffee water? e.g. how much coffee for who mcuh water
Very interesting.
I wore mine for two weeks straight and that was barely enough to start creasing the toebox. My two positives are that the insoles break in nicely, and that the back doesn’t crease down immediately like most new 1s do.
I will say as far as leather quality, it’s a pretty decent cowhide leather. I have some super limited Old Skools a boutique did back in 2014 with a full cowhide upper, and these are almost as good as those. The finish is kinda whack tho, makes it look like that default plasticky Nike leather.
I’m so glad to see you aging them that’s so dope! That was my first thought as soon as these dropped! And the foxtrot shoutout is dope, you two are saving the sneaker community! Much love.
This level of critique is very much appreciated.
Amazing work. Keep it up
Fun fact: Nike started using “cool” and “neutral’ grey on most pairs and have only used “natural” grey on literally a handful ✋🏽 of shoes in recent years. They all differ but natural and neutral only have a slightly different tone one is a hint more yellow but “natural” grey is much darker than the others. Natural grey is basically regular grey with a touch of white.
Nike will never give us 1:1 replica of originals because they want to give us a reason to buy the next retro release. Jordan 1’s being able to wear them for so long, Nike purposely doesn’t want to oversaturate the OG 1 market. If we get the perfect iteration, we will never buy the future release, we wouldn’t need to!
When’s the aging video releasing? I gotta see the process because I just got my pair and I gotta age them they’re way too bright white
I 100% agree to age them. I’m bkyung a pair and coffee dipping. Then aging the sole. Then foxtrot laces. No question. I would never wear them the way they are out the box.
The oversized swoosh on the new beginnings j1 85 is way bigger than the retro of the neutral gray which looks standard size swoosh right ?
Just stumbled onto this video as I was working and found myself with my cheek/chin resting on my hand fully engaged thru this entire video. Thank you. New subscriber.
I’ve waited for this for so long! Yaaaas
First vid I’ve seen of yours, amazing display and everything
I’m really happy with my pair, I reshaped the toebox and they’re breaking in really nicely
howd you do that? by just wearing em?
Yes how did you do that?
I agree with lacing, it’s a ritual
Very nice pair of Neutti Grey's you got here , man still looking for some ST-P pair !!
i bought these resale also and i actualy like the look of the toe box!! looks cleaner and nicer
Pls compare two 85 black white ajs
Can’t wait to see them 😎
I really don’t know why the put the smaller check on the 85s yet they put the bigger check on the older natural grey, bred, and royal lows
Good review, its funny though, never in a million years would i think someone would praise a downgrade in the soles and dislike an upgrade in the collars.
Yeah, I do have to say the changes they made were improvements but I just want a pair to be 100% OG. I'm a weirdo though haha
Looking forward to you oxidizing the neutral greys!! Dont forget to film it!
I already aged my midsoles on these and lace them up with cream laces. Would love to see your video on aging the 85s.
Your background is crazy cool
Just picked these up for under $300 years later hahah!! Just needed to wait. Great comparison, I could only find the B&W '85 OG comparison. Personally, I'm into the retro '85s & like you mentioned ...just an easy wear at this point. Looking forward to total beat up on these though! Keep safe man. Sub'd (I'll search for your aging video for these)
I was fortunate enough to cop the high 85 varsity red aka reverse breds so I had to get the high 85 neutral greys but like you had to pay resell but it wasn't to bad. Looking at just keeping both pairs on ice since it's the first time both shoes retroed and since they are great quality they'll last quite a while. Great video and review!😁👍
love the intro man lol
Lacing a new pair of 1's is NOT weird.. .... it's an addiction! Lmao
I sooo waiting on this video 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Love you’re videos bro .. quick question you think the resale game will die down or just worse ......
I never in a million years thought it would STILL be getting worse but it seems to be. That being said, I don't see this as sustainable. I really think when fashion changes a bit that'll weed out the people who are just in it for the hype.
Looking forward to the aging vid as well! I think you just talked me off a cliff from buying these. I’ll keep an eye instead to see if price drops. If not, oh well. Hate paying resale.
I would love to hear your opinions on the 2023 Jordan 1 high 85 Black and White.
Cant wait to see how these turn out! Great video!
Also, it’s been 5 months so where is the aging?
And this is the difference between us sneaker guys...and regular people. WE pay attention to detail. Just like the nike huarache run scream green 91 (2021 retro) is well done. Buttery leather, nice shape, 9.9/10 in accuracy. Almost accurately looks like the 91 OG version. Regular people won't understand lol.
I’m a girl lol
Thank you for the information I still need a pair of both but the re-sale is still too high for me on the new release
I'd like to see the 2021's at $350-400 all-in. I think that's the right price.
@@VintageKicksGallery exactly when the price went up to $700+ I was shocked
The sample tag used was because that’s a copy of the first color way sample tag made of that shoe.
Excellent video
Is Your 1985 pair 100% unworn?
I guess we should expect a breaking in period for these real leather old school Jordan's. The new leather needs stretching. As You mentioned regarding the airship banned they'll look nicer well worn. The check material could be the same? Maybe that's what happens over time to the grey checks they dry out & get that sand paper feel? If You look at the Google photo of Jordan sitting on the bench in a silver track suit in 1985 You can see his pair looks just like the new release shape wise..
Great. Now all of these things bother me too. That check size is so ridiculous. How do you not get that exact?
did you end up aging them? would love to see a video about that
Im getting my pair sometime next week and I’m snagging some laces from Fox this weekend. Are you using his stain for the soles or are you using your yellowing method?
And please do the reshape video soon as you can I can’t wait
Cannot wait for you to age these..🥳🎉🔥🔥🔥
I still need these!! But resale is tough. Can you do a video on how you like to store your sneakers? Do you shoe tree?
I have a video scheduled for "essentials" and I cover this in there. Shoe trees are super crucial but there's a certain type you wan to get. In fact, shoe trees are probably the #1 thing you need to keep things fresh.
I love the padding in these 85s that I got 2 pairs
very nice critique. almost everything bothers him.
do a metallic burgundy review
Agree. And can’t wait for the aging video
good vid bro keep doing that
Still waiting for the aging project!
Did you ever get around to posting the follow-up video?
sole is thicker on the 85
heel is curved on retro
check is smaller and less curved on retro
toe box is bigger on 85
wings logo is much more embossed on retro and lighter color
if I buy I'm gonna have to customize a lil
Luckily I got em on snkrs app, but I'm still not sure keeping em. I love the Ogs but the toe box really turns me off on the neutrals. Dope vid tho!
i love em, do the black whites
😄 my adorable 2021 Raging Bull 5s are literally orange, I'm going to have to pay for Angelus Dye and Crep Protect 🙂
I will happily accept the felt/suede swoosh upgrade but the toebox is the same as the Varsity Red pair and is the major let down and I'm sure that cut will stay for the next releases. I am aging mine naturally without paint 😉
I got these been wearing them everyday since I got em the toe box has changed a lot just needs to be broken in
For real? So the toe becomes more slanted the more you wear em????
@@davidkoo6236 yes they do! the toebox of my pair are already looking like the 1985 toe box
I NEED THE AGING PROCESS these are just way too stiff and white for me to wear. They just feel so off when I wear them so I've only wore them twice
Just keep wearing them man. That’s the best way to age a sneaker IMO
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Hmm is it possible Nike didn’t Retro the original 1985 nat grey color way and just used a different grey because it’s not like all the 1985 cut jordan 1s that’s came out recently are original colors ways?
Call me crazy but I kinda got a little hunch on the sample tag and I think it might be an Easter egg or clue on to what might be coming next for the 85 cut Jordan 1. To back track last week nice kicks Twitter posted a picture of a dunk collection and in the collection there was an 85 Chicago Jordan 1 with tags that was DS, but the shoe did not look aged at all, no cracked leather collar, no oxidized yellow midsole and I said I wonder if that’s an unreleased pair? Now reading the sample tag and the color way makes me wonder could Nike and Jordan be hinting at releasing a Chicago 1 with the 85 cut?
Where's that aging video? I need!
Bro. You've been ranting the whole vid, its more of a rant than a comparison. Didn't click the vid to see a middle aged man whine so much. Smh.
I was waiting for your opinion on these new ones I think they did some stuff wrong like the swoosh not being as big really annoys me
Feels like every time they tweet the name a bit, it’s because of some legal tape, to avoid being sued. (Granted that most likely NOT the case, it just appears that way).
Just a heads up, I did the coffee trick to age mine and only the piece around the heel with the wings logo darkened, everything else stayed white...
Had to grab a pair still love them
You never mentioned the sizing :( tts or fit small like the 85’s??
TTS. Toe box is pretty roomy
Compare the new ones to the picture of Jordan wearing em, that grey color is pretty light compared to og 85s
Have you posted the aging video on these? I can’t seem to find it
Great. What is the value of the neutral grey 1985 new?
The wings logo on the 2021 is way too light my retail pairs are much darker wings logo, were yours an early pair or reps ?
He got a big ass eBay authentic button on side lol
Wish the grey was darker on retro
Definitely got these! Softer than the other 85 retro but toe box sucks
I have 6 different og 85s in different colorways. I bout the new 85s and ur exactly rite on the differences. My buddy had 5 og colorways and he decided to deconstruct all 5 pairs and mix them all up, now he has 5 pairs of og 85s that are what the's if u will. They came out perfect and are dope as hell but I just don't understand why he did it. Oh well, I guess I'm about keeping mine in og condition. What do u think??
Pics?
I love these shoes. Maybe they called them Neutral Grey instead of Natural Grey bc they are not %100 the same
Although I paid resale, I agree that once they're aged they'll be worth the price point. I have Chef Huy Le cooking my pair up to age and reshape them, and I have my Foxtrot oatmeal laces ready for when those come in!!
nike should re-release all their older models from the 80s-90s. like the air force V or air force 180 high
Bro I’ve been praying for Nike to retro the Air Force v already, it’s a grail
What are ur thoughts on the lows??
I REALLY doubt that Nike lost the patterns and such to these shoes.
For one, it’s a very significant shoe pattern.
Two, it’s their property and copyrighted design. No way would they throw it away and start from scratch.
I don't know either way but I do hear a lot of people in the know say they did lose it even guy from weartesters who really knows his Js
The goat of this sneaker shit!
Thank you brother
Subbed ❤
Despite all the differences you've pointed out on the 2021 pair, I would still be ecstatic just to actually own a pair. I'm still salty to this day I missed out on it. And I can't, and won't, succumb to the ridiculous resell prices the sellers are commanding.
Honestly a decent job from Jordan brand, just go ahead and age them!
Yeah, I was a little too critical at times because you're right, they did a decent job. I just want to see them go all the way!
@@VintageKicksGallery Cant wait to see how you work the magic!
The box of my pair was "aged" by UPS tho lol
Cant wait for the aging on them!
their only objective with this shoe is to make sure it aged well.
i’m sure somebody complained about the original natural gray when it came out cos it didn’t compare to the top 10 or the forum....
feel like nike just doesn't care this much about the super purist original 85 details outside of some things like height and overall shape. they might also not be able to get access to the originals to copy it especially since they vary a lot. stuff like the laces and sock liner r probably changed for quality/lasting longer. the one thing i wish they did get right is the original '85 swoosh that just fucking dies after aging for a while.
maybe after this retro nike will start making regular aj1 high's actually high instead of practically the same as mids
So all this “bothers you” but it’s 99/100 🤔??
I wonder, are there any reasonable ways to accelerate aging on shoes? Do I just chainsmoke cigars and blow the smoke on them while keeping them greasy, or something? That doesn't sound pleasant
14:17 Well there ya go
Since they're white, it would be pretty easy I imagine to age these using UV light either from the sun near a window or a UV lamp.
@@SplendorSolis Ohh right, I was aware that ages things but didn't realize it causes yellowing, good to keep in the back of my mind!
Dude baked🔥🔥🔥
We need these aged man!
the heel is definitely different
got mine aged to look like the 85' version
Go over the suede swoosh and ankle collars with some coconut oil, and you'll get the color of the OG's
Beautiful shoe and your way to picky you bothered me by so many bothered said! And the shoe is amazing to me i have a few 85 pairs and almost identical nothing major to me!
OG 85's are built like a tank, obvious by how they are still around 37 years later. The retros today will never last 37 years especially if they are worn like we wore the 85s years ago