Risk of Rain 2s Hidden Mechanic

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  • čas přidán 30. 08. 2022
  • Caps video: • What are Proc Coeffici...
    Website: www.riskofresources.com/proc
    discord: / discord
    Thank you guys so much for watching, i hope you found this video interesting, a lot went into making this video, and im pretty happy with the end result; i do feel as though i rushed through some things, so if you did get confused please say something so i can avoid it in future, and hopefully clear it up.
    (also i know I said it wasnt about charts, then proceeded to throw numbers at you for 8 minutes, sorry lol)
    Music
    • Cult of the Lamb [Offi... Cult of the Lamb [Official] - Start a Cult
    • Chrono Trigger Soundtr... Chrono Trigger Soundtrack - Corridors of Time [HQ]
    • Chrono Trigger - Schal... Chrono Trigger - Schala's Theme
  • Hry

Komentáře • 370

  • @DisputedOrigin
    @DisputedOrigin  Před rokem +251

    The website is currently bugged, there's no way to access procs from the home page. you can still access the proc section, but you have to use the link in the description; hopefully this will be fixed soon

    • @GameTimeWhy
      @GameTimeWhy Před rokem

      Filthy grandpa forgetting how things work.

  • @johneaton3108
    @johneaton3108 Před rokem +3135

    this grandpa has dementia he forgot crit works diffrently on gunny wunny

  • @cookiecreep9204
    @cookiecreep9204 Před rokem +983

    Should have mentioned the hidden passive of the clover. Each next clover after the second increases the chance for the game too crash.

    • @DeadPerfection
      @DeadPerfection Před rokem +24

      LOL

    • @alfredharrison597
      @alfredharrison597 Před rokem +9

      KEKW

    • @pressaltf4forfreevbucks179
      @pressaltf4forfreevbucks179 Před 11 měsíci +4

      XD

    • @raphaelmonteiro7915
      @raphaelmonteiro7915 Před 6 měsíci +22

      I made a missile build with 6 clovers... it was fun to see my game become a screenshot

    • @quickdraw6893
      @quickdraw6893 Před 6 měsíci +28

      They really did implement it in the most shitty, unoptimized design possible
      "Just redo every calculation again if they have it!" Comp sci professors would give you an F for that implementation.

  • @SlyRocko
    @SlyRocko Před rokem +634

    Small clarification: Proc coefficient can go above 1.0, but there aren'tmany sources with that high of a coefficient. For example, Railgunner's special has a 3.0 proc coefficient. This means chance based items like ATG Missle and Ukelele have triple the chance of being activated, and debuffed affected by the coefficient like bleed have triple the duration.

    • @jenbooob
      @jenbooob Před rokem +39

      Certain enemy attacks go above 1.0 as well

    • @marquess2004
      @marquess2004 Před rokem +58

      No wonder all hell breaks loose every time I fire it when looping.

    • @tsquitz
      @tsquitz Před rokem +83

      @@marquess2004 it's also helped by the insane damage, making proc chains not only more likely, but stronger

    • @RycoonGalloy
      @RycoonGalloy Před rokem +25

      doesn't only cryocharge and supercharge have above 1.0? 1.5 and 3.0 respectively. Surprising diablo strike isn't higher now that I think about it

    • @literatemax
      @literatemax Před rokem +3

      @@RycoonGalloy i think the cryo one is only 1.0

  • @TheRedarm75
    @TheRedarm75 Před rokem +212

    The most important thing above all these numbers is attack speed
    5%/8% is small BUT if you throw out 200 attacks in 5 seconds (=/- proc chains) your gonna get something to happen

    • @JulesLeStrat
      @JulesLeStrat Před rokem +26

      Speed. Speed is war

    • @alfredharrison597
      @alfredharrison597 Před rokem +1

      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THISSSSSSSSSS

    • @xornedge8204
      @xornedge8204 Před 10 měsíci

      Bro is the Reverse Flash. Instilling violence against the local

  • @barragethree5047
    @barragethree5047 Před rokem +11

    "Very rare artifact! An ancient ukulele, from the legendary artist born on Mars. It was said that he was a son of a god, gifted with the power of lighting himself. People say that he was the most humble man... and that his music was simply... electric." - Ukulele item log, Risk of Rain 1

  • @gamerh0st
    @gamerh0st Před rokem +259

    This is some grade A content right here. Really glad to see there are more resources being made for players that go beyond the wikipedia. Hope to see more from the site in the future!

  • @Future_Max
    @Future_Max Před rokem +149

    I say this is why mods are essential to playing Risk of Rain optimally. The BetterHUD mod alone shows proc co-efficients in game, which help a ton.

    • @webbmerriam6984
      @webbmerriam6984 Před rokem +21

      *cries in console

    • @gataylor6982
      @gataylor6982 Před rokem +49

      I still dont understand how this isnt just an option in the base game

    • @orlandoservin5492
      @orlandoservin5492 Před rokem +17

      @@gataylor6982 because it’s made for players who actually care about the information. Don’t forget about the players who just play the game for fun

    • @fugolol
      @fugolol Před rokem +28

      @@orlandoservin5492 ur forgetting that games have options

    • @2ripped
      @2ripped Před 11 měsíci +15

      ​@@fugololyeah, and it should be an option, not a mod

  • @RdTrler
    @RdTrler Před rokem +68

    The Huntress' Flurry works very funny around damage procs.
    Items that scale off its base damage calculate that damage off ALL 3 (or 6) arrows, then multiplies this total damage by the combined 2.1x (or 4.2x) proc coefficient.
    A normal Flurry gives 6.2x damage to item procs, but a crits add a whopping 25.2x scale to item procs.
    I noticed this around the Shuriken. I don't know if *just* the Shuriken behaves this way, but it sure adds a lot of early-game damage as a Huntress.

  • @bbborbo
    @bbborbo Před rokem +44

    A lot of the ways that proc coefficient affects dont make sense in the live game, but they used to make sense. Right now, procs like ATGs which do total damage would be automatically balanced for all attacks, only attacks with lower proc coefficients have lower proc chance for these items, meaning these attacks are simply automatically worse. But once upon a time, these total damage procs used to deal base damage instead, meaning that fast attacks were always better with proc items. Proc coefficient was the mechanic in place to counteract this, it was MEANT to balance the strength of damage-agnostic procs (all of them at the time) between attacks with different hit rates. But now that so many procs are based on total damage, it's pointless and kind of harmful. Hopoo really should give a pass through all the effects, and change damage based procs to not be influenced by proc coefficient. Especiallg with procs that double dip into proc coefficient, like bleed, which are exponentially affected by nonzero proc coefficients.

  • @huynguyenphan4120
    @huynguyenphan4120 Před rokem +60

    Great video!
    Note: Rail Gunner's Supercharged Railgun has proc coefficient 3 1:07

  • @pika43gaming
    @pika43gaming Před rokem +31

    This is actually really cool. Your uploads never disappoint!

  • @willstewart4371
    @willstewart4371 Před rokem +21

    Great video. Love how you break down the mechanic so that it makes sense!

  • @mikejones8808
    @mikejones8808 Před rokem +4

    Everything is a 50/50. Either it happens or it doesnt.

  • @rndThursday
    @rndThursday Před rokem +10

    good video made better by cult of lamb music

  • @darkin9888
    @darkin9888 Před rokem +12

    another small thing
    Behemoths explosion range is also affected by proc coefficients
    so Huntress Arrow Rain makes many small explosions
    but Railgunners special makes a big boom

  • @kyle8971
    @kyle8971 Před rokem +8

    Math make numbers.
    Numbers smash, make BIG numbers.
    BIG numbers good.
    Math good.

  • @mrpineapplecc5342
    @mrpineapplecc5342 Před 2 měsíci +3

    As someone with 3 hours in the game I understood none of this. Maybe I should come back later lol

  • @Whentheofnotwhenofbuttheoftheb

    This vid is amazing! cleared up so many confusing things nobody really covered before.

  • @burzwa38
    @burzwa38 Před rokem

    Loved the video! I can tell a lot of effort went into it, keep up the great work

  • @lava2356
    @lava2356 Před rokem +2

    when I started playing this game in 2021 I thought the ukulele was a cosmetic item

  • @derggie7608
    @derggie7608 Před rokem +8

    Cult of the lamb music, excellent choice my friend!

    • @Hyperion_21
      @Hyperion_21 Před rokem +1

      and then the Crono Trigger music right after

  • @jarednickerl7894
    @jarednickerl7894 Před rokem

    Love your stuff so much man!! Keep up the good work!

  • @speakertrophy4749
    @speakertrophy4749 Před rokem +1

    i van really tell that hours of effort was put into this video and i love it. (also the cult of the lamb music mixes amazingly with the video)

  • @salamiman223
    @salamiman223 Před 6 měsíci

    great video, lots of info packed in and its perfect since ive been getting back into the game. subbed for great info and chrono music :)

  • @Chowsz
    @Chowsz Před rokem +2

    I'm glad someone went and decided to go in detail in procs. Sadly I already knew of these. But it's good to get a reminder

  • @OdaGoda957
    @OdaGoda957 Před 6 měsíci

    So glad I found this channel. Most efficient and informative gaming content

  • @plaguedoctor4411
    @plaguedoctor4411 Před rokem

    I thought i left open cult of the lamb but then just realised it was your video lol. Nice vid, there is s mod that gives items better descriptions and it shows weapon proc coefficient aswell which changed so much for my gameplay and runs

  • @j0hnnyzer047
    @j0hnnyzer047 Před rokem +1

    I knew some info on procs already but the info u gave is really helpful and really simple for my smoll brain to understand appreciate it 👍

  • @RacesVideos
    @RacesVideos Před rokem +7

    chain up

  • @Gahmeleos
    @Gahmeleos Před rokem +4

    Very informative video and hopefully it becomes a staple for those learning the game! 200 hours in the game and I know how proc chains actually work

  • @oomsoutie14
    @oomsoutie14 Před rokem +2

    Awesome video man, thanks for making it. Definitely cleared up quite a bit of confusion on my part around proc co-efficients and the like.

  • @Vxortex
    @Vxortex Před rokem

    Been watcNice tutorialng your vids for a good few weeks now, learning new sNice tutorialt each day. my worksoftow has improved so much since watcNice tutorialng

  • @zapia9766
    @zapia9766 Před rokem

    shout out from brazil, great content helped me a lot

  • @AdamRorie
    @AdamRorie Před rokem

    Had to leave a like for the excellent music selection

  • @popinyourdog4321
    @popinyourdog4321 Před měsícem

    Fantastic information with chrono trigger music. I could not be happier

  • @Drekromancer
    @Drekromancer Před rokem

    This is a beautiful summary. Thank you for your service.

  • @nickhand3005
    @nickhand3005 Před rokem +1

    amazing video thank you i needed this

  • @kalabcoonary9121
    @kalabcoonary9121 Před rokem +3

    2 videos in a week? Let's go.

  • @formagdrungbh9178
    @formagdrungbh9178 Před rokem

    amazing work yet again

  • @siegkami
    @siegkami Před rokem +1

    Great vid as awlays my guy, puts my transitions to shame pepeW

  • @scraub8913
    @scraub8913 Před rokem

    I knew about the proc coefficient affecting proc chances, didn't know it modified durations and other things tho. Great vid, thanks for the info.

  • @omegacalvin3383
    @omegacalvin3383 Před rokem +6

    Fun fact: proc chains on console risk of rain 2 are more busted because of a double dip bug, what i mean is every single damage increase via items gets reapply through the proc chains....

  • @colewilliams9834
    @colewilliams9834 Před 4 měsíci

    tyvm, when i get fed up of playing I watch a few vids on how the game works and then I've got my attention back.

  • @ONOM44
    @ONOM44 Před rokem +4

    THE CULT OF THE LAMB TUNES GOT ME BOPPIN

  • @brandonboothroyd240
    @brandonboothroyd240 Před rokem +3

    For a second I thought I was playing too much cult of the lamb

  • @thefrogwannabe6895
    @thefrogwannabe6895 Před rokem +2

    Loving the Cult of the Lamb music lol, what a good game

  • @jahmar4151
    @jahmar4151 Před rokem +1

    W backround music choice, cult of the lamb is a blast. If you ever decide to branch out to other video game content, cult of the lamb would be an amazing start.

  • @Pyrodiac
    @Pyrodiac Před rokem +5

    Ok, I've barely started a video.
    Cult of the Lamb music. A pog from me.

  • @tarkua1
    @tarkua1 Před rokem

    Ahhh I loved this, but I couldn't help but be surprised when the video ended. I felt like you were going to reach another conclusion. Still REALLY good video tho, I didnt realize 90% of this stuff.

  • @loudopinions9097
    @loudopinions9097 Před 11 měsíci

    I can't begin to state how helpful this was for me

  • @bennie1079
    @bennie1079 Před rokem +3

    the "and his music was electric", is a reference to the componist of risk of rain's soundtracks. It had the same item description in the first game, if I'm not mistaken.

  • @Lionblaze-Prime
    @Lionblaze-Prime Před 6 měsíci

    This was very interesting, thank you

  • @SoylentGamer
    @SoylentGamer Před 5 měsíci +1

    I remember in early access when Runald's/Kjaros were proc chain items. It was so easy to get crazy busted proc chains going back then.

  • @goncasn8161
    @goncasn8161 Před rokem

    I haven't played risk of rain in ages but goddamn this video is amazing

  • @spiralofants1236
    @spiralofants1236 Před rokem

    Literally the day I discover you, you upload. what the fuck

  • @masonfoster7954
    @masonfoster7954 Před rokem

    love you gramps never change

  • @plasmamuffin1320
    @plasmamuffin1320 Před 7 měsíci

    I like your funny words, magic man

  • @stormtmad9865
    @stormtmad9865 Před 7 měsíci

    Great video!

  • @stonerkirby
    @stonerkirby Před rokem +3

    This video is a great way to explain why you should get 1 Ukulele with most characters.

    • @CenturyBlade
      @CenturyBlade Před rokem

      I must be a dingus because I don't understand what this video has to do with buying 1 vs buying multiple. I always thought the reason not to buy more was simply that buying more only increases the number of nearby enemies hit, and clumps of enemies only get so big before you'd just be one-shotting everything anyway even if you had 0 ukes.

  • @exodus1383
    @exodus1383 Před rokem

    Great explanation!

  • @1un4cy
    @1un4cy Před 6 měsíci +1

    Keep in mind items with low proc coefficients is mainly because they hit multiple times. A ukulele with 0.2 would be multiplied by however many enemies you hit, though the damage of the chains would be pretty poor on this item, like a 60% damage atg.

  • @mogaming163
    @mogaming163 Před rokem +1

    Thought I knew everything, didn’t know duration was effected by proc!
    Also I think Diablo strike and other mega attacks should be above 1 proc like rail gunner but I think they aren’t because either dlc or the other devs (not hopoo) decided that

  • @scipio6142
    @scipio6142 Před 6 měsíci

    love that we can learn combinatorics just to get an advantage in this game

  • @lowerysdumplingcookingchannel

    Thanks for this

  • @omega_berzerk5384
    @omega_berzerk5384 Před 6 měsíci

    Cult of the lamb music is a nice touch)

  • @julio4972
    @julio4972 Před rokem

    Great explanation

  • @catandgrouper4760
    @catandgrouper4760 Před rokem

    Thank you for the information, good grandpa salesman, I’ll make sure to use it well !

  • @DeucesWild2006
    @DeucesWild2006 Před 10 měsíci

    Ok but that guy you showed when you were talking about graphs, he taught me everything I know about math (and math antics)

  • @null_point
    @null_point Před 5 měsíci

    incomprehensible have a nice day

  • @jevmenyt3422
    @jevmenyt3422 Před rokem +2

    i like to see comunities trying to escape the shackles of fandom predatory wiki practices

  • @prodr0xxthefirst267
    @prodr0xxthefirst267 Před rokem

    Cult of the lamb sound track is so good man

  • @mr.simple5586
    @mr.simple5586 Před rokem +1

    The only this that I didn’t already know was the specific number for each items proc chance

  • @KingCuba
    @KingCuba Před rokem

    Subbed for great RoR2 content

  • @rileybradley1509
    @rileybradley1509 Před rokem

    the cult of the lamb music is so wavy

  • @unidentifiedasiankid9775

    OMG THE CULT OF THE LAMB MUSIC IS TOO GOOD

  • @richardthacker6
    @richardthacker6 Před 6 měsíci

    Off to go fishing with my grandson 😅😅
    Very helpful video. Thank you!!

  • @AlbinoMichigander
    @AlbinoMichigander Před rokem +2

    Did you use Cult of the Lamb for some of the music? I like it quite a lot!

  • @jaydenchewning1923
    @jaydenchewning1923 Před rokem

    Keep up the good work son

  • @maverick-_-hunter
    @maverick-_-hunter Před rokem +7

    Kudos on the Zeal theme. Also, just a reminder that Better UI shows proc coefficients in game.

  • @zephyrsaix8319
    @zephyrsaix8319 Před rokem +4

    wait is the base damage of tri tip daggers bleed multiplied by proc coefficient? that doesnt seem right wouldn it be multiplied by the value of the base damage of each survivor?

    • @iluxa-4000
      @iluxa-4000 Před rokem

      Both. It deals 240% of the base damage multiplied by proc coef per stack

  • @doctorrogue1923
    @doctorrogue1923 Před rokem

    Pretty cool video ngl

  • @dominicspeights7295
    @dominicspeights7295 Před rokem

    I always had the impression that you were a younger man. It's really cool to see a grandfather on the internet who plays video games. My grandfather is deceased, but I didn't know him well so it's ok.

  • @maome5113
    @maome5113 Před rokem +1

    Cult of the lamb released some days ago and its music already became a cult

  • @mauhernz
    @mauhernz Před 7 měsíci

    That cult of the lamb music though

  • @copperheadchris2807
    @copperheadchris2807 Před rokem +3

    One thing you should add about luck is that the higher the probability of something happening is, the less impact it will have. A 50% proc chance is hit a lot harder then a 75% proc chance.

    • @xolotltolox7626
      @xolotltolox7626 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Incorrect, the farther away something is from 50% the less it will be affected by Clover
      At 50% your chance with a reroll jumps to 75%, a 25%p increase. At 0% and 100% respectively, you will stay at where you were at, giving you 0%p more chance, at 10% and 90% you jump to 19% and 99% respectively, giving you a 9%p increase in oroc chance

  • @memmuw
    @memmuw Před rokem

    goated video

  • @TehLiquid
    @TehLiquid Před rokem +1

    6:49 yes, it literally always does, literally. It's not a gamble, a clover is a won run, you don't not take one if you have the chance to take one.

    • @desuvult15
      @desuvult15 Před 11 měsíci

      Except that's wrong. If you don't have multiple chance-based items (like he said in the video) why bother wasting 5 greens that will probably help you more immediately?

  • @gatogamingonline
    @gatogamingonline Před rokem

    Great video

  • @radiatedcockroach5564

    wow, very good content :)

  • @thedecentgamer7818
    @thedecentgamer7818 Před rokem

    that hog is going crazy on that spaghetti

  • @BowForGlory
    @BowForGlory Před 3 měsíci

    Cult of the Lamb music is just so damn good

  • @Manabender
    @Manabender Před rokem +2

    Question; how does the proc uniqueness rule apply to proc tress (as you called them)?
    Say you have three proc items, A, B, and C. You use an ability and it procs A. A then procs both B *and* C. In a sense, you now have two different chains going: AB and AC. Can the AB chain now proc C, or is it now forbidden because C already procced in the tree?
    On a similar token, how does the uniqueness rule apply when a single ability procs two items at the same time? Say you have proc items A and B. You use an ability and it procs both A *and* B. Can A now proc B, or is it forbidden because it was already procced by the initial ability?

  • @KazziLawl
    @KazziLawl Před rokem

    Thanks for the great video, if only the chrono trigger music wasn't distracting me half way through

  • @Tiagocf2
    @Tiagocf2 Před měsícem

    What should i focus on high hit/s builds? i always thought you should go something like bleed on the void character because he attacks very fast, but his proc coeficient is very low, so it seens bad to me now that you explained it

  • @Dafrog124
    @Dafrog124 Před rokem

    GREAT VID 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @qwertzuwu
    @qwertzuwu Před rokem

    nice bgm

  • @FernandoRafaelNogueiraReis

    The thing that I didn't know it was the order could be "remixed" and, by consequence, the more procs you have, the better.

  • @AnotherVGMlover
    @AnotherVGMlover Před rokem +1

    3:45 one exception, polylute can proc itself

  • @bobtheboneboy6531
    @bobtheboneboy6531 Před 6 měsíci

    Intro music is from cult of the lamb.