Brownells was making 16A1's a couple of years ago, $1299. It had NDS Receivers machined by Aero & Brownells. Kinda expensive, but about half the price of a Colt.
Mine was a 12 Ga. H&R Topper (single shot), paid $79 for it at Kmart. Got a fair number of wabbits with that thing. I got to be pretty good at snap-shooting. I didn't own a dog, only had the benefit of one when I went hunting with a friend who had a beagle. I'd just walk around, shotgun at what I now know is called "low ready" and when I'd see the flash of a rabbit hopping. I'd swing it to point at him and shoot from the hip. I usually got him. I "trained" by walking around in the wild, and picking out some random object at typical "rabbit distance" and then without thinking too much, quickly "hip-aim" and fire. Eventually it got to where I could hit them. With rabbits, you'd only see them for a second or so, as they'd quickly hop from behind one bit of cover to the next, often over a small hill. It was not unusual to shoot at one that was on the move, and then find it there ready to be picked up and bagged from where it landed on the other side of the hill. This was maybe '76 or so, back when Kmart had M1 Carbines (for maybe $180 or so, as I recall) and actual _handguns_ for sale too!
My Mom bought me a H&R Topper Buck model in 12GA in 1977 when I was 16. I took a few deer with it until I upgraded to a Marlin model 1894 in 44 mag. when I turned 18. I still have the H&R that my Mom had got me. I will never sell it.
Mine is a Topper model too. I was 11 when I got it and that was my deer gun for three years. I had to prove myself before my Dad let me carry a rifle. I moved up to his Marlin 336 in .35 Remington. That gun now belongs to me and, would you believe it, is the only gun I've hunted deer with since I first carried it at age 14.
@@SWVA2TX -- *_would you believe it, is the only gun I've hunted deer with since I first carried it at age 14._* Welcome to "Club FUDD"! We're not such bad folks (no matter _what_ kind of "FUDD lore" the hotshots try to pin on us!) I think I'm going to start selling.... no, I'll let it be a surprise (and make sure no one beats me to their CafePress account!)
@@This_is_my_real_name well...I wouldn't go that far. I have my share of "tacticool" stuff and I like shooting it. But I prefer to hunt with wood and steel and a good game cartridge. I'm old fashioned that way 😀
Got a bad taste in my mouth for this corporate behemoth as of 2 days ago. I'm putting on my flame suit so bash me as you please. When they emailed me in response to me being on a waiting list for an XM16E1 80% lower that they were not doing 80s any longer because basically the ATF doesn't like them and would like to change the legal definition. Thats just such a weak bow down to unelected beurocrats I cant support them. Again it's their reason for not doing it. Just seems like the first step towards fuddy-duddy spineless cowardice to me.
Why? Real legit M1's can be purchased for well under $1k from the CMP. Rifles with history. Now a downsized Garand in 5.56 with 10-rd. clips would be interesting.
@@Chilly_Billy I'm sure you can find M1's for under a "garand" (lol) but man are they hard to find. I got lucky and got myself a H&R for around that, but that was a stroke of luck honestly. The normal rifles are as much as the sniper rifles these days.
Wish you would have asked more questions. Would have been useful to know what date they plan to start selling and what will the MSRP be for the M16A1 clone?
The M16 i got in basic was so jank I kept losing the sight picture dramatically cause the upper was so loose. Every other battery got issued fancy new rifles (M4's i think) while we got the relics
@@random-fixer When I went to bootcamp, I was shocked how SMALL the 16 was .. and how cheap it looked and felt.. I never had rifles when I was a kid... or really saw them up close.. but my A4 FN upper feels solid as steel compared to the A2 for some reason lol maybe the weight
I’m an AK guy all the way and never had any interest in AR’s. But I always loved the old school Colt AR’s, particularly the Colt commandos. I always wanted one
PSA: "You can get these for less than $100... Because it's only polymer" Other Brands: It cost us $60 to make this poly injected chassis, so we'll sell them for $800 each. Other companies need to start taking notes, because this is how you build brand loyalty.
The dude said he designed it one month and it'll be on the market in 6. When you buy PSA you are quite literally the first person to ever have actual testing done on their gun. A beta tester, but you paid them to do the testing.
@@SlavicCinnamonRollie556 That's funny because I am sure Sig does the exact same thing. Many of my friends ran out and bought all these new Sig products. Only to find out they were the test dummies for Sig. I would rather purchase something at a cheaper rate, than to spend the high dollar on a Sig and still be a test dummy.
Really feels like H&R is back after a way longer absence than is real. They'd been stagnant for a long time. Hoping to see a newly designed top break revolver.
That would be cool. My first revolver was a H&R 922. Pull the pin and remove the cylinder to load and unload. Simple and well made. Fired thousands of .22s, so much fun.
“Peace Be Upon Him” 🤣 the A1 clones are exciting - but if they start making new Garands I’m in! Of all the stuff to come out of Sh!tShow 2022, this H&R news is most enticing.
True. I have a Single shot 12ga. from H&R. They made it as a combo rifle once upon a time as an interchangeable barrel 12ga. .30/30 .... I wish I had opted for the combo rifle.
First rifle for a number of folks I care about were Handi rifles. Hell took my largest hog to date with one of those old single shots. Remington became a brand destroying shit sandwich before the end.
@@mot0rhe4d40 Agreed about Remington. I became a gun owner and hunter only 10 years ago when I was 26. My first gun was a H&R Topper 12 gauge that's probably older then me due to the condition it was in and the fact that it uses a side swinging lever to break the action as opposed to the push button used by the Handi Rifles and Pardner shotguns. Bought it at a gun show on my birthday for $60. That gun is even in one of my wedding photos where my we staged a "shotgun wedding" as a joke.
@@JDTN1985 Now that is funny. I picked up a couple shotguns from a friend last year. One is my first semi auto shotgun, Remington 11-48 manufactured in '53. The other was what I thought would be a H&R 158 Topper 12ga. Got home and realized it was a 48 Topper made in 1948, like yours with the lever release. I think the old single shots have as many fond memories for folks, as 30-30 lever actions do. Take care
Dave, I do not know if Traditions is still making them. But I picked up a few years ago, a break action Traditions Outfitter G2 in 357 mag. It is a very accurate rifle. Only downside is the price almost doubled on them after I got mine at the introductory price of $250. Now the pricing is $425-$450 range. So in the Ruger American price point. I found a used one in 35 Rem for $325 , that I am still considering.
Would love to have an H&R M14. I'm just hoping it won't end up being prohibitively expensive. Definitely going to want to snag a copy of the M16A1 and that awesome looking 10/22 pistol. I've been a collector of H&R stuff for many years. Still have my original M88 12 gauge that I got in the early 80's too. Makes me very happy to hear that the brand is alive again.
I had a Colt M161A during basic training in the Army. When I got to Germany to my duty station, I was issued a M16A1 Harrington-Richardson. What a world of difference. The H&R was so well built. It was very accurate for a select fire weapon with a 18 inch barrel, the thing shot very well. I was the first person that weapon was issued to. That was the summer of 1975. My guess would be it was built late 1974 or early 1975. What an excellent M16A1 H&R built.
I did. They wasted half the dern video on the little .22. Although I like it, it is super cool, I wanted more on the M-16 clone by my fav companies H&R and PSA
I don't know if its economically feasible, but I'd like to see the new H&R reintroduce some of their break top pistols in modern calibers. The semi-auto they licensed from Webley back in the day would be very cool to see as well.
Same, having new production Garands will be great. I want one eventually but it's like 10 guns down my list right now. Really excited for another M1A producer in the market as well. I feel like that gun as a class is pretty over priced because of lack of competition.
I'm guessing that it will be north of $2K. The machining and fitting are labor intense, and finding adequate supplies of walnut for stocks will be problematic. OTOH, a new-production M1 that is as reliable as the originals will be worth having.
To make an M1 Garand receiver requires an insane amount of milling. So many angles, radius's and other dimensions that need to be right. I'd wager a Garand made ala WW2 methods would run $3k easy, considering labor, taxes, materials, OSHA, and the real evil .... EPA.
Well it weighs as much as seven moving boxes and shoots a fifty caliber bullet so give the kid a break. AR 14s give cnn reporters PTSD just shooting them and them guys ain’t no soy filled cream puffs at all.
Modern ammo is no problem, just replace the gas plug with a Schuster adjustable plug. The Schuster plugs were $30-35 a couple years ago. Criterion made Garand barrels in various calibers years ago. They still have .270 Win barrels last I looked. I've got the .270 barrel its a joy to shoot with noticeably less recoil and very accurate.
I shoot modern ammo out of my first contract WRA with no problem and not using an adjustable gas plug, just make sure that you're using a new op rod spring and you'll be fine
Going to buy at least one of the M16A1 clone ASAP. Would love an E1 like Brownells made, but those are never in stock. Thanks for doing the 1/12 twist! I’m glad PSA found the clone community and is catering to our autism.
The first time I qualified in 1996 I used an M-16 A1. I ACTUALLY USED the trajectory map that showed the difference between A1 and A2 because I had never shot before.
I'd like a replica M1 Garand but I'd prefer it in 308 not 30 06... I wanted one from CMP but I don't have a affiliated range near by so it's been a struggle finding one that isn't too expensive...
Join the grand collectors association, GCA. That affiliation will allow you to purchase m1's and other rifles and pistols directly from the CMP. Plus they have a great magazine and are dedicated to the history and preservation of the grand rifle.
Be interesting to see what they are able to do price wise with a new M1 Garand. Honestly I'd love to see them tackle a modernized top break defensive revolver, maybe something along the lines of the MP412 REX. Those are just dreams though, don't see that happening.
@@johnburnett5377 I'm honestly surprised no company has done it yet. I know people say they're weaker, but with modern materials/manufacturing, I don't think that'd be as big of a problem. Would be so awesome to have!
I am so fucking excited about this! The M16 and the Garand will ABSOLUTELY be added to the collection! I have a 1944 Garand but I’d love to have a fun new production one to throw around!
Really like what I am hearing from H&R. And I now Hate Remington just a bit more as a brand destroying company. Would have liked to see some Handi rifles make a come back.
I want that M16A1 clone. Brings back lots of memories. The stock on that clone however looks like an A2 version. Hard to tell but the buttplate doesn’t appear to have the rounded edges.
@@blueduck9409 Not all had the full chrome carrier group. There were some that did but that was a limited number and I believe it was an early in the M16 adoption. Most I’ve seen and used only had the inside of the carrier chrome plated just like the current M4.
I’m happy to see the A1 clone, I will be buying one of those. I will probably get the garand when that is available too. While I was doing some research into what other cool guns H&R had made, I found the T48 FAL. If you guys do a FAL I will buy that in a heartbeat.
So glad H^R is back may the new owners grow the brand and I would buy a quality gun from this guy in the video. Make an H&R 1911 as well. Maybe we need to start an apprenticeship programs with companies.
I really wish they'd hurry up and get these on the shelves! I've missed my chance at other m16a1 clones over the past few years because I didn't follow 2A news very closely and didn't find out about them until they were discontinued (brownells) or sold out (colt's "retro reissue").
Yeah I missed out on the Brownells retro model 605 and now they don't make them anymore in the 556 223 in the 10 or 11 inch barrel configuration but the price point was too much for me at the time but still somewhat affordable !!!
Gotta say....First time I have been excited about PSA in a Long Time! Im an Old Guy who qualified on the A1 and I will buy one if it isnt totally ridiculous in price. I dont have safe queens.....I shoot Everything I have, including my collectibles!
I'm really, really, really, really, really, excited for that H&R M16a1. I really hope it gets off the ground enough for it to not be discontinued any time soon.
I had an A1 in basic in 1988 also. Shoot well. Used an A2 for BRM. Then got the A1 back lol. Many miles carrying that thing around Ft Benning School for Boys. Looking forward to see what they make
I love the idea of the M16A1 clone. I was issued the M16A1 from 1981 until 1989 when I got to Alaska and we got issued the A2. As I have to shoot long guns left-handed due to my eyes, so I hope they make brass deflectors available.
I'm assuming he meant a visual clone of the CAR-15 flash hider since the ATF, in all of their infinite wisdom, declared that particular version is actually a silencer.
God please bless the hands at PSA 🙏.... Maybe PSA will be the ones to bring us a FN FNC repro...a brother can hope...but I will def be in line for an a1...40 round pmag and 50 grain TSX....
I have a brake action 12 gadge that my grandfather got me for Christmas when I was 7 years old. I'm 50 now and I still shoot it. The old H&R's are tuff. I would like to have it re finished. I'm not worried about value. I'll never sell it.
My Mk.12 Mod.0 currently uses a PSA PA-15 lower I bought at one of the brick and mortar PSA stores in 2015. An A1 profile lower is one of the final pieces remaining to complete the whole thing. The current unobtainium that I'm hunting and saving up for would be a Leupold 57055 (Mark 4 3-9x36mm MR/T, M3, Mil-dot, matte black).
I may as well have work make my paychecks payable to PSA if all they want to produce actually comes to fruition! Fantastic company! Excited to see what all comes out in the next couple years!!
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I hope the H&R M16A1 is reasonably priced… those Colt retro guns at 2400 is outrageous.
@@ar-15techtipsinunder5minut8 Whatever, boomer.
@@mickmcguire492 Whatever, poor.
@@ar-15techtipsinunder5minut8 you can buy a legit pre ban A1 for about 2,500
Brownells was making 16A1's a couple of years ago, $1299. It had NDS Receivers machined by Aero & Brownells. Kinda expensive, but about half the price of a Colt.
$2400 was more than fair.
My first gun was an H&R single shot 20 gauge. Paid 42 bucks for it in 1977. Still have it. Glad to see H&R under seemingly competent management again.
Mine was a 12 Ga. H&R Topper (single shot), paid $79 for it at Kmart.
Got a fair number of wabbits with that thing. I got to be pretty good at snap-shooting. I didn't own a dog, only had the benefit of one when I went hunting with a friend who had a beagle. I'd just walk around, shotgun at what I now know is called "low ready" and when I'd see the flash of a rabbit hopping. I'd swing it to point at him and shoot from the hip. I usually got him.
I "trained" by walking around in the wild, and picking out some random object at typical "rabbit distance" and then without thinking too much, quickly "hip-aim" and fire. Eventually it got to where I could hit them.
With rabbits, you'd only see them for a second or so, as they'd quickly hop from behind one bit of cover to the next, often over a small hill. It was not unusual to shoot at one that was on the move, and then find it there ready to be picked up and bagged from where it landed on the other side of the hill.
This was maybe '76 or so, back when Kmart had M1 Carbines (for maybe $180 or so, as I recall) and actual _handguns_ for sale too!
My Mom bought me a H&R Topper Buck model in 12GA in 1977 when I was 16. I took a few deer with it until I upgraded to a Marlin model 1894 in 44 mag. when I turned 18. I still have the H&R that my Mom had got me. I will never sell it.
Mine is a Topper model too. I was 11 when I got it and that was my deer gun for three years. I had to prove myself before my Dad let me carry a rifle. I moved up to his Marlin 336 in .35 Remington. That gun now belongs to me and, would you believe it, is the only gun I've hunted deer with since I first carried it at age 14.
@@SWVA2TX -- *_would you believe it, is the only gun I've hunted deer with since I first carried it at age 14._*
Welcome to "Club FUDD"!
We're not such bad folks (no matter _what_ kind of "FUDD lore" the hotshots try to pin on us!)
I think I'm going to start selling.... no, I'll let it be a surprise (and make sure no one beats me to their CafePress account!)
@@This_is_my_real_name well...I wouldn't go that far. I have my share of "tacticool" stuff and I like shooting it. But I prefer to hunt with wood and steel and a good game cartridge. I'm old fashioned that way 😀
Yeah I’ll take that 10/22 as well as the clone. PA is just killing it.
This is H&R, now fused with Nodak spud. Not sure why there's a big PSA banner in the back.
Maybe cause they got bought out?
@@LifeisGood762 JJE owns PSA as well as H&R. JJE recently purchased Nodak Spud and rolled them into H&R.
@@jimyeats Ok that makes sense.
Got a bad taste in my mouth for this corporate behemoth as of 2 days ago.
I'm putting on my flame suit so bash me as you please. When they emailed me in response to me being on a waiting list for an XM16E1 80% lower that they were not doing 80s any longer because basically the ATF doesn't like them and would like to change the legal definition. Thats just such a weak bow down to unelected beurocrats I cant support them.
Again it's their reason for not doing it. Just seems like the first step towards fuddy-duddy spineless cowardice to me.
I'm actually really excited by this. I've always wanted an A1 style rifle. And new garands?! I hope they come through
Why? Real legit M1's can be purchased for well under $1k from the CMP. Rifles with history.
Now a downsized Garand in 5.56 with 10-rd. clips would be interesting.
@@Chilly_Billy then get a mini 14
Chilly Billy lol good luck finding a M1 under $1k.
@@Chilly_Billy I'm sure you can find M1's for under a "garand" (lol) but man are they hard to find. I got lucky and got myself a H&R for around that, but that was a stroke of luck honestly. The normal rifles are as much as the sniper rifles these days.
@@griz312 Its called the CMP, an they ship to your door.
I'd love a quality M1 carbine that is faithful to originally made items. The .30 carbine is so fun to shoot
The M1 carbine is an awesome rifle.
@@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 I think we could upsize the design for some of the big bore AR15 rounds too
@@dustinshadle732 the guy who was behind the .450 bushmaster was literally trying to do tbat
This is probably the best news that I've seen from Shot this year. The A1, M1, the little 10/22... outstanding!! I hope H&R can pull it off.
That little 10/22 is one of the coolest things I've seen at shot this year.
Wish you would have asked more questions. Would have been useful to know what date they plan to start selling and what will the MSRP be for the M16A1 clone?
I used an H&R M-16A1 in basic training after BRM (used M-16A2 for BRM) in 1989. It worked great even though it rattled like a maraca.
They all rattled…
at MCRD, my A2 was completely silver and you could twist it about 1/4 inch side to side... LOL still shot Expert though
The M16 i got in basic was so jank I kept losing the sight picture dramatically cause the upper was so loose. Every other battery got issued fancy new rifles (M4's i think) while we got the relics
@@random-fixer When I went to bootcamp, I was shocked how SMALL the 16 was .. and how cheap it looked and felt.. I never had rifles when I was a kid... or really saw them up close.. but my A4 FN upper feels solid as steel compared to the A2 for some reason lol maybe the weight
I used one during training in 2008!
I’m an AK guy all the way and never had any interest in AR’s. But I always loved the old school Colt AR’s, particularly the Colt commandos. I always wanted one
I like the fact there is a gunsmith at the helm of this company. I'm anxious to see what they bring to the market.
PSA: "You can get these for less than $100... Because it's only polymer"
Other Brands: It cost us $60 to make this poly injected chassis, so we'll sell them for $800 each.
Other companies need to start taking notes, because this is how you build brand loyalty.
The dude said he designed it one month and it'll be on the market in 6. When you buy PSA you are quite literally the first person to ever have actual testing done on their gun. A beta tester, but you paid them to do the testing.
@@domenik8339 JuSt As GuD lol
@@Enjoyer.762 Exactly.
PSA is junk for suckers who wanna be Test dummies
@@SlavicCinnamonRollie556 That's funny because I am sure Sig does the exact same thing. Many of my friends ran out and bought all these new Sig products. Only to find out they were the test dummies for Sig. I would rather purchase something at a cheaper rate, than to spend the high dollar on a Sig and still be a test dummy.
Really feels like H&R is back after a way longer absence than is real. They'd been stagnant for a long time. Hoping to see a newly designed top break revolver.
That would be cool. My first revolver was a H&R 922. Pull the pin and remove the cylinder to load and unload. Simple and well made. Fired thousands of .22s, so much fun.
wont happen, new h*r is all about ... 10/22 and m16 clones.
“Peace Be Upon Him” 🤣 the A1 clones are exciting - but if they start making new Garands I’m in! Of all the stuff to come out of Sh!tShow 2022, this H&R news is most enticing.
That really sucks to hear about the tooling for the single-shots being sold for scrap. Those guns were so iconic of the brand.
my first centerfire. sad to see them go
True. I have a Single shot 12ga. from H&R. They made it as a combo rifle once upon a time as an interchangeable barrel 12ga. .30/30 .... I wish I had opted for the combo rifle.
First rifle for a number of folks I care about were Handi rifles. Hell took my largest hog to date with one of those old single shots.
Remington became a brand destroying shit sandwich before the end.
@@mot0rhe4d40 Agreed about Remington. I became a gun owner and hunter only 10 years ago when I was 26. My first gun was a H&R Topper 12 gauge that's probably older then me due to the condition it was in and the fact that it uses a side swinging lever to break the action as opposed to the push button used by the Handi Rifles and Pardner shotguns. Bought it at a gun show on my birthday for $60. That gun is even in one of my wedding photos where my we staged a "shotgun wedding" as a joke.
@@JDTN1985 Now that is funny. I picked up a couple shotguns from a friend last year. One is my first semi auto shotgun, Remington 11-48 manufactured in '53. The other was what I thought would be a H&R 158 Topper 12ga. Got home and realized it was a 48 Topper made in 1948, like yours with the lever release.
I think the old single shots have as many fond memories for folks, as 30-30 lever actions do.
Take care
Make that Vietnam war HK93 clone that H&R made in the 60s.
100% I want the HK93 to come back to market for a 5.56 alternative.
@@jeremiahcherry5283 Century is importing MKE HK33’s and HK33K’s
my mind will be blown if we get some affordable Garands and m14s. I am also stoked for the a1 and hopefully a2 upper receivers.
Now if we could just get someone to produce a us made dragunov. A new handi rifle/ partner shotgun would have to be designed for CNC production.
Dave, I do not know if Traditions is still making them. But I picked up a few years ago, a break action Traditions Outfitter G2 in 357 mag. It is a very accurate rifle. Only downside is the price almost doubled on them after I got mine at the introductory price of $250. Now the pricing is $425-$450 range. So in the Ruger American price point. I found a used one in 35 Rem for $325 , that I am still considering.
Investment castings are an affordable way to make quality parts.
Would love to have an H&R M14. I'm just hoping it won't end up being prohibitively expensive. Definitely going to want to snag a copy of the M16A1 and that awesome looking 10/22 pistol.
I've been a collector of H&R stuff for many years. Still have my original M88 12 gauge that I got in the early 80's too. Makes me very happy to hear that the brand is alive again.
M14 yes
Can't wait for these retro guns to hit the market
My second issued M16A1 (late 1970.s)was an H&R,my first was a Hydra -Matic Div of GM.(US Army)
I never knew H&R made m16s, pretty sweet
If they are bringing back the m1 and m14 they should do a m1 carbine just because.
I would rather have an M1 carbine than an M14.
You forgot to ask if the Garand will take glock mags
I know. I hang my head in shame.
There’s no way a new M1 Garand will cost less than 2k. same with the single shot shotguns, there’s a reason the Henry single shot are $400 plus
With the machining involved with a Garand probably closer to $4k. It will be interesting to see what they do.
Back in the 1970s I paid $230 for a Browning BT-88. If you can find one for sale you better get ready to pay big bucks. Last one I saw wint for $1600.
@@charlesmckinley29 And the cost of doing a hammer forged receiver, bolt, and op rod as per USGI specs.
@@Enjoyer.762 pulling off the oprod will be a major hurdle as it was one of the biggest issues for M1 contractors during WW2.
TBF, Henry has nicer wood and sights than the H&R did.
I wish psa would open more stores so i don't have to order everything online
I had a Colt M161A during basic training in the Army. When I got to Germany to my duty station, I was issued a M16A1 Harrington-Richardson. What a world of difference. The H&R was so well built. It was very accurate for a select fire weapon with a 18 inch barrel, the thing shot very well. I was the first person that weapon was issued to. That was the summer of 1975. My guess would be it was built late 1974 or early 1975. What an excellent M16A1 H&R built.
I had one in 1970-72
Bro, we gonna have to meme you and your folding stock prowess! Lol.
Keep up the great vids.
LMFAO I suck.
Skip to 7:36 if you only came for the M16A1 clone.
I did. They wasted half the dern video on the little .22. Although I like it, it is super cool, I wanted more on the M-16 clone by my fav companies H&R and PSA
thank you for saving the time because 22 suck spend so long talking about it
@@rockerdude8000 I agree! I'm excited about the H&R marked lower! It might look a lot better on my A1 than the Brownells lower!
I don't know if its economically feasible, but I'd like to see the new H&R reintroduce some of their break top pistols in modern calibers.
The semi-auto they licensed from Webley back in the day would be very cool to see as well.
What’s the m16A1 pricing?
One gun tuber guy on here bought one of the first release and I think he said around $1300 to $1400 give or take !!!
This is one of the best talks I have watched all Shot Show.
Thank you. I love you.
Can’t wait to see the pricing on the M1 Garand.
If they can beat out the CMP 1k Experts, they got a real chance of being godlike.
Same, having new production Garands will be great. I want one eventually but it's like 10 guns down my list right now. Really excited for another M1A producer in the market as well. I feel like that gun as a class is pretty over priced because of lack of competition.
I'm guessing that it will be north of $2K. The machining and fitting are labor intense, and finding adequate supplies of walnut for stocks will be problematic. OTOH, a new-production M1 that is as reliable as the originals will be worth having.
To make an M1 Garand receiver requires an insane amount of milling. So many angles, radius's and other dimensions that need to be right. I'd wager a Garand made ala WW2 methods would run $3k easy, considering labor, taxes, materials, OSHA, and the real evil .... EPA.
That first abbreviation is merely a suggestion, and the last one inconsequential. Especially the last one
I will be enthusiastically awaiting their bringing back some of those old designs. The Garand would be amazing. Thanks for the info. Great interview.
Man, PSA makes South Carolina proud! Thank y'all!
The resolve you expressed when he said "that stock is kind of stiff"
is commendable
Lol. Thank you.
That's what you get when you tell Arty that something is tough or difficult. We go "Oh really now?"
Sometimes it can lead to trouble.
My boy can’t figure out the shoulder thing that goes up.
Every stock lock must be super tight this year his big boy pants are getting a work out LOL.
Well it weighs as much as seven moving boxes and shoots a fifty caliber bullet so give the kid a break. AR 14s give cnn reporters PTSD just shooting them and them guys ain’t no soy filled cream puffs at all.
I was issued a H&R M16A-1 in Germany in the mid 80's I would love to have one of my own as a trip down memory lane.
M1 garand with modern machining & the ability to handle modern ammo will be awesome & different calibers
Modern ammo is no problem, just replace the gas plug with a Schuster adjustable plug. The Schuster plugs were $30-35 a couple years ago. Criterion made Garand barrels in various calibers years ago. They still have .270 Win barrels last I looked. I've got the .270 barrel its a joy to shoot with noticeably less recoil and very accurate.
I shoot modern ammo out of my first contract WRA with no problem and not using an adjustable gas plug, just make sure that you're using a new op rod spring and you'll be fine
Carried the M16A1 as a Sapper in the Fulda Gap. I'm a southpaw shooter and got a few hot brass in my collar.
brass deflector? Who needs that!? 😁
Definitely going to buy the m16a1
1:12, chrome lined pencil barrel? My hunt will finally be over. (Lots out of stock, some way too expensive)
Going to buy at least one of the M16A1 clone ASAP. Would love an E1 like Brownells made, but those are never in stock.
Thanks for doing the 1/12 twist! I’m glad PSA found the clone community and is catering to our autism.
Hell yeah
My 203/A1 (circa 82) was a H&R. Qualified expert with it Every Time. Loved that rifle
The first time I qualified in 1996 I used an M-16 A1. I ACTUALLY USED the trajectory map that showed the difference between A1 and A2 because I had never shot before.
M1 garand? Wow.
I'd like a replica M1 Garand but I'd prefer it in 308 not 30 06... I wanted one from CMP but I don't have a affiliated range near by so it's been a struggle finding one that isn't too expensive...
Join the grand collectors association, GCA. That affiliation will allow you to purchase m1's and other rifles and pistols directly from the CMP. Plus they have a great magazine and are dedicated to the history and preservation of the grand rifle.
@@allanking6848 thank you... I'll check them out...😃
Be interesting to see what they are able to do price wise with a new M1 Garand. Honestly I'd love to see them tackle a modernized top break defensive revolver, maybe something along the lines of the MP412 REX. Those are just dreams though, don't see that happening.
Excellent idea!
@@johnburnett5377 I'm honestly surprised no company has done it yet. I know people say they're weaker, but with modern materials/manufacturing, I don't think that'd be as big of a problem. Would be so awesome to have!
I hope they get the gas tuned right for the AR clone. If they do Im sure it will be a great product.
it's PSA i doubt they will get it right lol
I am so fucking excited about this! The M16 and the Garand will ABSOLUTELY be added to the collection! I have a 1944 Garand but I’d love to have a fun new production one to throw around!
I might as well just tell my employer to go ahead and start sending my paycheck straight to PSA every week. It’s going to end up there anyway. 🤣
Bring back the H&R 999 revolver. Top breaks are fun!
I am now holding off for this PSA m16 retro instead of colts in memory of my dad, a shooter and not a safe queen.
Totally getting that .22 when it comes out
Really like what I am hearing from H&R. And I now Hate Remington just a bit more as a brand destroying company. Would have liked to see some Handi rifles make a come back.
Damm I really like that little 22 in the beginning . That would be a fun little shooter . I have a a handful of ruger mags laying around too
I want that M16A1 clone. Brings back lots of memories. The stock on that clone however looks like an A2 version. Hard to tell but the buttplate doesn’t appear to have the rounded edges.
It looks like a Type D stock, its a pre 1970 A1 stock without the trapdoor and different sling swivel
Jah, the M16A1 had a chrome lined barrel, and a chrome bolt- carrier group.
@@blueduck9409 Not all had the full chrome carrier group. There were some that did but that was a limited number and I believe it was an early in the M16 adoption. Most I’ve seen and used only had the inside of the carrier chrome plated just like the current M4.
M1 Garands! Now we're talking.
Please keep it real though. No pic rails. No black synthetic stocks. No camo...of any variety.
I would like to see a modernized version. This is coming from someone who owns multiple M1 Garands.
James Vatter I want to see an M1 rifle that is more affordable for the average person.
The Retro stuff is exciting ❤️
That was the best video coming out of Shot Show I've seen so far this year. thx
Glad to see H&R didn't disappear. A new M1 Garand? Wow. I hope it costs under a grand.
I’m happy to see the A1 clone, I will be buying one of those. I will probably get the garand when that is available too. While I was doing some research into what other cool guns H&R had made, I found the T48 FAL. If you guys do a FAL I will buy that in a heartbeat.
I hope they make a FAL
Question though: Metric pattern or inch pattern?
Can they do it close enough to DSA quality?
Well they never came thru with there mp5 clone don’t hold your breath
So glad H^R is back may the new owners grow the brand and I would buy a quality gun from this guy in the video. Make an H&R 1911 as well. Maybe we need to start an apprenticeship programs with companies.
I really wish they'd hurry up and get these on the shelves! I've missed my chance at other m16a1 clones over the past few years because I didn't follow 2A news very closely and didn't find out about them until they were discontinued (brownells) or sold out (colt's "retro reissue").
Yeah I missed out on the Brownells retro model 605 and now they don't make them anymore in the 556 223 in the 10 or 11 inch barrel configuration but the price point was too much for me at the time but still somewhat affordable !!!
Gotta say....First time I have been excited about PSA in a Long Time! Im an Old Guy who qualified on the A1 and I will buy one if it isnt totally ridiculous in price. I dont have safe queens.....I shoot Everything I have, including my collectibles!
I'm really, really, really, really, really, excited for that H&R M16a1.
I really hope it gets off the ground enough for it to not be discontinued any time soon.
I would love to see a M1 made again, I had a H&R M1 that I had to sell years ago, always regretted that.
I had an A1 in basic in 1988 also. Shoot well. Used an A2 for BRM. Then got the A1 back lol. Many miles carrying that thing around Ft Benning School for Boys. Looking forward to see what they make
I love the idea of the M16A1 clone. I was issued the M16A1 from 1981 until 1989 when I got to Alaska and we got issued the A2. As I have to shoot long guns left-handed due to my eyes, so I hope they make brass deflectors available.
I still have an H&R Handy rifle. I can't wait to see what they come up with next.
I’d like to see their old break top revolvers brought back, and preferably tweaked to allow modern full powered cartridges.
I agree can’t find a 999 for less than 700$
I'm assuming he meant a visual clone of the CAR-15 flash hider since the ATF, in all of their infinite wisdom, declared that particular version is actually a silencer.
To do H&R justice
1911s - very bare bones but quality specs
Handi Rifles and barrels
Revolvers
I would love a M1 Garand that can shoot modern 30.06.
Just get a universal gas plug.
God please bless the hands at PSA 🙏.... Maybe PSA will be the ones to bring us a FN FNC repro...a brother can hope...but I will def be in line for an a1...40 round pmag and 50 grain TSX....
This, so much this. I would be willing to commit unspeakable acts for an fnc
Making the M1 sure sounds cool but they should also ramp up and start making a ton of M2 Ball ammo as well so you can shoot it
I used an M-16A1 back in 1979 and it worked faultlessly..
I nearly shit a brick when he said they're bringing back the M1 Garand.
I can’t wait for these A1’s to hit the market
Would like to see them produce a break-top revolver in .38 Special that won't poop the bed because of crappy parts
With the 12 twist you can also shoot cast bullets near to fmj velocity (powder coat). Cheap ammo is good!
PSA is killin’ it.
👍 on the garand, bring back a trapdoor, everyone loves the 999 22 revolver!
Keep the videos coming your really getting all the good interviews and all the new products
Every stock latch must be super tight this year his big boy pants are getting a work out LOL.
I have a brake action 12 gadge that my grandfather got me for Christmas when I was 7 years old. I'm 50 now and I still shoot it. The old H&R's are tuff. I would like to have it re finished. I'm not worried about value. I'll never sell it.
Excellent interview! It will great to see the M16A1 H&R come back.
The little ruger 10/22 folder is badass, I want one
I'm in love with that stubby 1022 clone!!!! Take my money!💲💲💲
That 10/22 is awesome! 👀 I'd sell a kidney for that! 🤣🤣 Well, probably not.
One of my best CMP Garands is a H&R! I would like to see the H&R M14.
I will buy an A1, I have always wanted a rifle like I carried in the Army.
AWESOME! I’d love to see an integrally suppressed SBR 10/22 style.
Let’s abolish the nfa first.
Yeah to post nfa, i love the concept but the extra $400 is hard to swallow
PSA is the party. Everything they're doing is fun.
Makes me excited for H&R
My Mk.12 Mod.0 currently uses a PSA PA-15 lower I bought at one of the brick and mortar PSA stores in 2015. An A1 profile lower is one of the final pieces remaining to complete the whole thing.
The current unobtainium that I'm hunting and saving up for would be a Leupold 57055 (Mark 4 3-9x36mm MR/T, M3, Mil-dot, matte black).
Mike answered the 999 revolver question at the end, loved mine but it was crap broke parts.
Yooo! Hell of a new CEO they got! I fking love NDS.
You can say whatever you want about palmetto but they put some cool affordable stuff on the market. I respect it.
Dear Lawdy, I was THAT guy ..asleep holding the guys alice straps in front of me.
I may as well have work make my paychecks payable to PSA if all they want to produce actually comes to fruition! Fantastic company! Excited to see what all comes out in the next couple years!!