The Rise and Fall of Mexico's Empires
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Simon I think I heard your voice for a longer period of time than I heard my own thoughts for the last 5 years, it's crazy how much content you create man
I honestly did not realize that Curiosity Stream had a CZcams channel. I guess it kind of makes sense. I will have to look as I already watch them and Nebula on the regular.
Did Musk carry Simons kitchen sink?🤣
In certain aspects king, Max was hella progressive for his time. Mexico would be a lot more different if he was able to stay in power. I also find it interesting that a European cared more about the people than the Mexican elites.
Because he wasn’t as attached to the elites, but at the end he was imposed by a European power that didn’t recognized the existing Mexican president (who was of indigenous origin by the way). The French sent him to do something that was impossible
The elites on the Americas wanted independence not because of the people they wanted direct rule and less bureaucracy from Spain. One independence happen those indigenous lands and previous agreements all of the sudden become nonexistent and all for grabs.
@@ciceron351 to be fair juarez was a bigot by today's standards
@@chaoscapricorn13 explain how
@@anonymousanonymous4690
While Benito Juárez himself was indigenous, he loathed his fellow Indians for being “too Catholic”, and too attached to tradition.
He proceeded to marginalize his own people for his vision of a “progressive” republic.
He is one of the reasons Mexico is such a corrupt sh*thole today.
If memory serves, Maximiliano issued pardons for almost everyone who would’ve been executed by the black decree. He also offered Juarez the position of PM and adopted Iturbide’s grandchildren as heirs.
Say what you will about him, he really tried to get Mexico to like him.
Not very well, but he tried.
@@senorsombrero1275 I read Bertita Harding's "Phantom Crown". Maxl deserved better than he got.
Maxl did not support Napoleon III's looting of the country and he resisted the Pope's religious bigotry. (I am a Catholic but Pius IX was not a good Pope.) And Juarez himself was technically an illegal ruler by the Constitutional terms of his office.
I think Mexico would have been a happier nation today if Juarez and the Supreme Court had cut a deal with Maxl (who was a Habsburg, not French) to create a constitutional-monarchy. Or just to let Maxl go home in peace.
@@zimriel Benito Juárez was an American lover who used republicanism to hide his true tyranny. The man called himself an anti-imperialist while letting the US influence our politics and despite being native he persecuted other natives
Juarez didn't kill the man, he killed the concept, that México can be invade and/or conquered and it's people will accept it, and by killing Maximilian, he killed the idea, if you see, Juarez didn't kill Carlota, so the moral of the history, don't invade other contry thinking you will be loved there, and yes I am Mexican
@@ricardobeltranmonribot3182 “he killed the idea” he literally ordered his execution despite Maximilian willing to give him a position in his government not to mention Maximilian gained support for his policies in banning child labor and giving natives more rights. Not to mention he wanted to be elected democratically by the Mexicans to be our emperor. Carlota left Mexico before they captured Maximilian. You need to do actual research and not think being Mexican makes you an automatic expert
Emperor Agustin has all but been erased from Mexican history, despite his George Washington-like role in the Independence. Thank you so much for making a video about the 2 Empires. More people need to know this history so that they can do more research for themselves!
Mainly because he was taken out by a lot of us/British funded Freemasons in Mexico
Wat books can i read
Augustin was more similar to Napoleon,
By all accounts, King max was pretty progressive for the times and had a genuine fondness for Mexico's culture and people
Makes me wonder how things could of went in an alternate universe if he was able to make things work.
Hi Loved Mexico so much that he died screaming "Viva Mexico!"
Hey for all the bad that came out of being colonized, the trade-offs weren't bad.
@David Garcia Mexico would be far greater and more powerful if Maximilian were emperor. We could’ve been at the same level as the US or European powers. But no, Benito Juárez had to unjustly kill him and bring us into destruction
He was
2:15 - Chapter 1 - The spanish empire
4:20 - Chapter 2 - The mexican war of independence
5:35 - Chapter 3 - A new mexican government
7:25 - Chapter 4 - The new mexican emperor
8:50 - Chapter 5 - The emperor new close
12:30 - Chapter 6 - The imperial intermission
13:55 - Chapter 7 - The persistance of a mexican monarchy
14:45 - Chapter 8 - The 2nd mexican emperor
16:20 - Chapter 9 - Fall of an empire, take 2
17:25 - Chapter 10 - Imperial legacy
Plundering. That’s the history of Mexico. And it continues even today.
Wow that's ignorant
@@mapsbolt3663 and it's true bruh Mexico "could've been" great but it's barely inch way to be great.
Would of loved to see how prosperous Mexico would've become under Maximillian going forward.
“…and he was arrested and executed. SURPRISE!” 😅
That's Mexico's national pass time now!
they didnt get the memo
I hope that for the USA.
@@lucio.martinez You want the entire country executed? Seems a bit extreme.
@@griffinmckenzie7203
Read the mainland comment again.
It said "He".
17:11 cool painting. The realism, the colors, shadows… like someone was there seeing that.
You should do a video on every time an American force intervened in Nicaragua. That would be pretty interesting to see!
Yeah a dirty operation by the CIA to depose democratically elected governments the USA 🇺🇸 didn't like during the cold war.
Resulting in civil war and bloodshed
That I think is on Simons channel - Into the shadows -
I'm pretty sure the Banana Wars will get their own video on Warographics
Virtue signal much?
@@Darth-Claw-Killflex huh? How so?
@@Darth-Claw-Killflex what the hell?
Would love to see a video of the rise and fall of the British East India Company! 👍🏻
Oy vey ...that's anti-Semitic lol . Just look into who controlled all the East Asian trading companies.
Mexico was the only country that after it's independence from Spain that became a monarchy instead of a republic and also one of a few ever in history..
It started out as republic then Maximilian turned it into an empire. Iterbide may have crowned himself emperor but neither the assembly who had more power than him and other nations recognized him as a monarch. He was just a dictator.
@@theawesomeman9821 A monarch is just a fancy dictator.
@@theawesomeman9821 nope. It was never a Republic. The Republic was a imposition from Freemasons conspirators after Iturbide
To be honest, the “liberator” regimes in South America weren’t much better.
Edit: Also Brazil became a monarchy, but obviously that country won independence from Portugal not Spain
@@theawesomeman9821 Iturbide didn’t crown himself emperor. The congress was waiting to find a European monarch willing to take the throne and Iturbide didn’t want it at first until he received support from both the people and congress. So, no, he was not a dictator and actually alot more popular than Maximilian was
Chapultepec Castle is "The Halls of Montezuma" that us US Marines sing about in our Hymn.
yeah, it’s a historic castle since that’s where the Mexican “Niños Héroes” (Boy Heros) fought off the US marines until the last one wrapped the Mexican flag around his body and jumped to avoid it being captured by the Americans. they’re widely regarded in Mexico today
Yeah okay I’m Mexican and I hope to be able to fight to restore my empire
@@dancerv5861 You need Central America first to get numbers as Mexicans stopped having kids like they used to both in Mexico and the USA.
Ah cool!
I have been to Mexico 🇲🇽 myself and I can confirm to every1, all you hear is 100% true!
Mexicans are very proud of their history and Tenochitlan (Mexico City) is awash with these in guided tourist attractions!
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@Räche SD But he has a Canadian flag for a picture. How can it possibly be a bot? lol.
@@Mr.Septon Proud an representative of it! 😊👍
Yes I am a he, correct haha
The conspiracy against Iturbide was created by the first US ambassador to Mexico named Joel R. Poinsett who encouraged the Masonic Lodges of the Yorkino Rite to overthrow him and establish a puppet republic faithful to US interests, including the sale of Texas. There are many documents about it. Iturbide was so admired by the general population that even years later, when he was shot, his funeral procession was escorted throughout the republic to the cathedral of Mexico City, where he still rests. / La conspiración en contra de Iturbide fue creada por el primer embajador de EE.UU en México que se llamaba Joel R. Poinsett que alentó a las Logias Masónicas del Rito Yorkino para derrocarlo e instaurar una republica títere y fiel a los intereses estadounidenses, entre ellos la venta de Tejas. Existen numerosos documentos al respecto. Iturbide era tan admirado por la población en general que incluso años después cuando lo fusilaron su cortejo fúnebre fue escoltado a lo largo de la republica hasta la catedral de la ciudad de México donde aun descansa.
That tells a lot. USA was always an enemy to monarchy, that teaches us a lesson: it is dangerously to be an ally to USA and it pays more off to not cooperate with them
10:18 Oh snap! Haven't heard sassy Simon in a while 😂
You should do a wider video on France’s overseas colonial empires and/or the French empires founded by the Bonapartes
When i was in elementary school in the 90s in texas…. We had hindreds of schools, libraries, roads etc with Santa Annas name on them.
Naturally… he sold Texas to the USA
I adore Simon's videos and their ability to condense hundreds of years of history into less than thirty minutes.
Thank you again Simon for having spoken about Mexican history. It is very much appreciated to those of us who learned it years ago, and who wish others are able to experience the complex, authen turbulate history of lands South of the Rio Grande.
Río Bravo 😈
@@makutas-v261 jeje. Fair.
If I have a penny for every time that Mexico had an empire, I would have two pennies, which isn't much but is weird that happened twice .
Jajajaja, te la aventaste buena 👍🤣
hahahahahaha
Agustín de Iturbide was born in México (Nueva España) he was not considered Spanish, he was considered Creole because his parents were spanish
Gracias por el video
Is it just me or does Mexico love the firing squad for it's former leaders.
Blame the Mexican Freemasons that the us/British sponsored
Ohhh boy you have no idea
It's like they invented the method. But I think they should keep up with the "tradition," as it seems their current leaders deserve it more than those of two hundred years ago, who at least had education and preparation to try to set up rational institutions. Too much violence, then and now.
Ooh fabulous!
Megaprojects is teaching me summit completely brand new this time!
This really has both sides of my brain 🧠 transfixed Simon! 😃🙋♂️
100% kept hearing his name as its-a-bidet, very confusing when I wasn't paying attention in the middle 😆
Awesome video!! Very good investigation. Facts, history, etc Just awesome.
Not really. There are some facts wrong. Like naming México a "south American Spanish colony". México is in North América, an New Spain never was a colony, but a Viceroyalty.
I kinda feel sorry for Maximillian he tried but was so out of his depth, it's a shame they didn't just exile him back to Europe.
The Mexican government was showing Europeans what would happen if they imposed another foreign monarch on Mexico. Maximillian made himself a martyr by refusing to leave Mexico
@@Idahoguy10157 Oh I didn't know he had a chance to leave, he really should have taken them up on that offer as it was foolish to think he could stay in power, cheers.
@@markgrehan3726 …. He declined to leave with the French army
@@Idahoguy10157 That was a big mistake on his part as it seemed that he knew the French military was the only thing keeping him in power and then only just. I wonder why he thought his staying would have ended up and differently.
@@markgrehan3726 …. Or if something bad would happen to him if he went back to Europe?
9:50 oh the fore shadowing.
Curiosity stream should do a guest host with Simon
They should do a guest host with Joe
Thank you. Thank you so much for this
"Perhaps he was just practicing trickle-down economics before his time." Pfft.
I love your videos
Timed well for the Grand Prix
Fun fact: The only ones benefitting form independence was the upper class who wanted to have access to power structures but the whole nobility thing stopped them from. Mexico went from being ruled by nobles designated by the Emperor to a republic of presidents (who did nothing but enlarge their pockets in theit 4-6 year terms) elected by 38 voters.
Have to correct something here. Mexico was never considered a colony by Spain. It was a viceroyalty and Mexican indigenous leaders became nobility... also Mexico itself the capital was known as the Kingdom of Mexico there where two kingdoms in the viceroyalty of New Spain, Kingdom of Mexico and the Kingdom of Guatemala....Although I know this channel is not the best in history always watch the videos because one has to be informed in all sources. This video is full of wrong facts and information. If you see this comment please read a little more on the history of Spanish America, don't stay with mainstream sources they usually has politically manipulated information like the one in this video.
a viceroyalty is a type of colonial rule, it was still a colony but no a colony™
Thank you! I was hoping someone would bring it up
Your comment gives me hope, maybe... Maybe we are not a lost cause
Then you guys became a third world country like all of Latin America. Mexico survives off of it's neighbors to the north. Pathetic
Btw Mexico was a colony of Spain and it's not like Spain was controlled by Mexico. Mexicans never traveled to Spain to for e those people to speak their language. Spain didn't share power which is why they never helped you out after you lost to the real Americans
His contents controlled separation is great 😅.
Very fascinating.
whould you be interrested in doing a video on the surcouf cruiser submarine?
What if the Mexican empire lasted till the American civil war…you think they would’ve tried to take advantage?
As someone who lives in the US, it was sad we didn't learn much about this. It wasn't until high school Spanish that I learned September 16th (Dieciseis de Septiembre) was independence from Spain, and May 5th (Cinco de Mayo) was independence from France.
Independence from France? What?
@@crashito_x he starts talking about it 14:05, that leads to Ferdinand Maximilian
cinco de mayo was a single battle..
I guess the wordage used in class was "fend off the French" but this made it sound larger.
What's also sad is that Americans believe that Mexico is representative of Latin America and the Spanish Caribbean.
Smashing the like button without viewing again. Comment is a sacrifice to the Algorithm. Cheers from Tennessee.
@Defective Degenerate Well, you're defective by your own admission.
Battles for power getting in the way of governance, holding on to power being totally different to getting it and keeping vast sums for the rich.
Reminds me of politics in the UK at the moment!
Funny how history tends to repeat itself.
Do one about the cristeros war .
"Now an emperor with no army" Tu nunca mencionaste que La Nación Comanche y El Imperio Mexicano firmaron un tratado de paz en 1822 y tampoco mencionaste que La Nación Comanche ofreció a enviar 20,000 hombres a ir a la guerra por el emperador contra los masónico republicanos.
You could do the next video on egypts new capital city
You should do a video on USA citizen William Walker being President of Nicaragua !!!
Viceroyalties, not colonies
viceroyalties are a type of colonial rule
@@ash3972 Spain used to work in kingdoms, the monarchs were monarchs of the many kingdoms that conformed Spain. Once Castile got supremacy, and law was centralized more, the used to be kingdoms were now vicekingdoms, vice royalties. Spain had 10 Viceroyalties in Europe and 4 in America.
@@GarfieldRex yes, i am not negating that but that doesnt mean arent colonies, a colony is "a country or area under the full or partial political control of another country, typically a distant one, and occupied by settlers from that country" that does apply to viceroyalties
A colony is a colony. No one respected you then and no one respects you now
LONG LIVE AGUSTÍN DE ITURBIDE LONG LIVE MAXIMILIANO DE HABSBURGO LONG LIVE THE FIRST AND SECOND MÉXICAN EMPIRE 🇲🇽🇲🇽 👑 👑
Maximilian looked like a nice guy however he was too naive.
Mexico can you decide what hat you want to wear
I see one empire. Maybe a kingdom before that with Ferdinand VII being restored as monarch over Mexico.
The Declaration of Independence of the Mexican empire was the official name of the document that declared Mexican independence from Spain. The Second Mexican Empire was in the 1860’s, that’s indeed two empires (kingdoms).
@@mdc3148
So they declared Fernando VII the Emperor of Mexico?
@@zaco-km3su No. They declared the empire and began searching for a candidate, asking him first and hoping that he would accept but also open to others. The writers of the document pertaining to electing a Mexican emperor wrote in a clause that in the event no member of a European royal house would take the position, a Mexican-born of high regard could take it.
Viva 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽💪🏽
I thought I was watching a Red Gaming Tech video at 4:13
Maximilian was one of the best Things that could happened to Mexico, and was killed by one of the biggest lies in country history Benito Juarez
King max was a great man 🇲🇽
Emperor Maximillian.
Imagined what will be the world look like today if the First Mexican Empire survived.
The survival of the Second Empire is used in alt-history scenarios. The First, that is untouched as far as I'm aware. Would make for some interesting story/world building.
The usa would not allow it, hell they’re the reason why the empire fell
Sant'er' Ana ?!? Who's that??
Whait, What? Texas in Mejico?
BEFORE 1836
THEN Republic of Texas; soon became US Federal State
It’s not Santarana, it’s Santana, with no R
👍
Maybe we Mexicas should have keep Maximilian.
Do a video on what an A-10 warthog successor would have to be.
No
Afraid the time for dedicated ground support aircraft might be over for now..
I kind of wish the monarchy would’ve survived in Mexico, it’d be a better system of government than they have right now.
They might not live in Mexico anymore, but the House of Iturbide is alive and well. The current head/claimant is named Maximilian.
Mexico did, his name was Porfirio Díaz.
Let’s face it, Mexico has never actually had a “good” government, only rapacious, vile, corrupt, self-serving beasts.
A parliamentary system would had been better
@@MrAlen6e true like the one in UK tho
@@johngolden3714 I was aware there was a claimant to the Throne of Mexico, I doubt he’d ever be elected emperor/king in Mexico today, but I wish like anything they’d return to a monarchy. Yes Canada is a Monarchy but the Monarch themselves are located thousands of miles away.
Greetings from the 3rd Mexican empire Andres Manuelandia , saludos
hello sir, you want to overthrow the mexican republic
tHEY THOUGHT THEY WERE BIG AND SCARY. Then we showed up HAHA,, By we i mean the mo forka SAXONS.
Wait dont cheat me, this is a spanish empire i thought it fishy/. Mexicans had power? 4 COUGH.now i know. They didnt.
santarana?
11:57
Simon Whistler knows why 90% of georgian surnames end on ...ili or ...ze, and why that has nothing to do with the Hittites
why so blue, simon?
Why didn't the US annex all of Mexico instead of just 9 states?🤔
Please, don't use the word "colony", we weren't brits, New Spain was a voceroyalty of Spain, so we were subjects to the kingdom.
Colonization and conquest are not the same thing
Who said we were defeated?
😈🇲🇽✝️
México's vote
MEXIQUE
I have little interest in history, but fuck it!
As a Mexican I must say I haven't meet anyone in Mexico who considers this two examples as 'Empires', instead we see them as the remnants of what it was there before, and as something the incoming government at the time wanted to keep for some reason only for it to end as a disaster for them.
I think we're from different Mexicos because since elementary school they are referred as the first and second empire.
And now you got corrupt politicians and drug cartels. Enjoy.
That's what I was going to say... We had an empire? When the fuck did we had an empire???
@@luisdelarosa1310 It was an empire as in kingdom, not an overseas empire
Tell me, are you Mexican born in Mexico and raised in this country or born in the USA?
This is totally fascinating, but really not sure how this qualifies as a "megaproject"
Enjoyable, but agreed 😅
It is rather skewered as a - Megaproject - Should be on 1 of his other channels. Id say best would be - Xplord
I would argue that empire (especially how they were established) can be classified as megaproject.
Empire building is a project on its own apparently.
Yeah Empire building is pretty large scale, long term project stuff that "mega" might not be big enough.
@@eaphantom9214 Xplrd is defunct, largely replaced by Into The Shadows...this could have been on Side Projects, though, or even TIFO or HH
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Maximillian III’s beard style might actually work today among California soy boys.
Thanks? But why is Mexico called Mexico?
For the mexica empire or aztec empire.
When you read about the modern and progressive policies of Emperor Maximillian, it's a shame the Mexicans were not able to understand (lack of education at the time) and properly support his regime, which had nothing to do with the previous Spanish colonial control and the short-lived and flimsy First Empire (Iturbide's), both of which proved to be very poor administrators of their territories. Sadly, most of the resistance he faced were from the same groups of Royalists and Clerics that offered him the position in the first place, believing he would re-instate the harsh conservative antics of the colonial government. Mexico would probably be in a much better position these days, one that would've attempted to match the rapid expansion and progress of the United States and serve as a model of social and political development for their neighbors in Central and South America. Yours is an excellent presentation of the history of Mexico's modern Empires, well done!
Simon, you don't understand what "trickle down economics" means.
So Bethlem Hospital in London was built 300 years before Aztec rule in Mexico. Nuts
I believe it was a little less than 200 years
A major detail was left out. The US instigated the independence of Spain’s colonies. Despite the colonies’ faults, loyalty to the crown was strong.
Now in Latin America we have jokes/stereotypes about indigenous people and how they were more loyal to the crown than white skinned people. And the the one for white skinned people(minority) is that they see themselves more Aztec than the actual brown people do😂- this were the people who advocated for independence with US support.
Your view of Latin America is myopic. Nothing you described pertains to my country, Venezuela 🇻🇪. We had our own reasons for seeking independence from Spain which had nothing to do with the USA. Mexican history isn't the history of all of Latin America.
@@Venezolano410 really coups aren't the history of Latin America ok
That's because the Spanish crown and indigenous people had come to an agreement with the encomienda laws that formally guarantee certain laws , however once independence happen those agreements became nule and this off course was detrimental to indigenous people after independence as described in Argentina and other part of the Americas
Simon...what about El Chapo's Empire.🤣😂🤣
eso nunca existió
Have you done the USA/Mexico border? hundreds of miles of steel that run into the sea, a river literally cemented into place, and a history of both cross border raids and being the primary focus of the USA military from 1919 until world war 2. Also a USA weapons testing focus... "Will this help us fight the Mexicans?" it's unfortunately still a focus today. 😅
Mexicans living in the south West USA 🇺🇸 theoretically have a right to be there, cos it was originally their land before it was stolen in the Mexican American war
- Unless you take into account Native Americans - 🤦🏻♂️😒
Yeah if Mexicans can claim the land as theirs by stealing it from the Natives then the American can steal it from the Mexicans and claim it.
Once the Territories became states, they had sovereign rights the people became citizens of the respective states. Mexico is an entirely separate country. There is no Dual Citizenship agreement between Mexico and the United States . . . so, while Mexicans have history and tradition going back to the 1500's, they are either a citizen of Mexico, or one of the United States. With citizenship come rights and obligations. Rights include political office and the vote, protection of law. Obligations are taxes, obeying the laws, and military service.
So, your comment is vague, like arguing with a drunk . . . it is baseless and cannot be argued.
What amazes me is that Columbus found the islands, but missed the continental mass by one week of sailing West. That was found later. Twenty or thirty years later, the Panama isthmus revealed a shortcut to the Pacific, and the masses of Spaniards, and then French, swarmed North to create the Mexican empires described in this video.
It truly is amazing that the Europeans became wealthy, traveling to and fro, weeks on end on those small wooden sailing vessels . . . enough to populate and control the indigenous population with their armor, steel weapons, and horses . . . such was the disparity in technology and organization.
I have a scholarly text, a history, published by the University of New Mexico. The cruelty of the Spaniards was inherited by their seven centuries under the Moors . . . Muslim methods of conquering incorporated into the acts of the conquistadors.
@@leonarddaneman810
Mexico recently started offering dual citizenship to the children of its citizens born in other countries. An agreement with the USA isn't necessary since the USA doesn't have a say in what goes on in other people's countries nor its immigration policy.
@@Venezolano410 Thank you for your response. Actually, under Mexico's constitution (not an expert by any means), they are far stricter than here in the U.S., at least what we enforce.
As far as 'offering dual citizenship . . .,' please realize that 'children of its citizens' is the 'jus sanguinis' standard accepted by most nations, and other nations granting citizenship in these cases is an exception. The 'jus soli' principle is rarely accepted.
Again, thank you, but not specific enough in your analysis.
@@leonarddaneman810
A significant number if countries offer citizenship to the children of their nationals born in other countries. Some people have triple citizenship of both parents are from different countries and the offspring is born in a third.
Man everything that 1st emporer did sounds real familiar to right now, in the US..🤔 What was his name again? Iza-Brandon? Iza-Biden? Something like that right??😅
Don't you dare compare his imperial majesty to that corpse in the white house.
first again! 3 in a row!!
I know, I know
second again
Go Brandon!
wankers
This depiction is highly biased. They speak as of the Mexican people had barely any decision-making power and as of anything that happened was because of the US or Europe's liking. The return of the government in Maximiliano's empire was predominantly mexican-led. There was no mention of the Reforma War, of Benito Juárez or any other influence of Mexican politics on these results. The US of course helped, but they did not fight the war for us. I just think this kind of perspective should be thought of when scripting the videos.
The setting up of a second Empire was not for all the Mexicans to decide, as in a democratic institution, but by a powerful and influential group of royalists that included high ranking military officers, nobility, and political leaders. Not "all" the Mexicans, and certainly very few of the lower classes, whom, I'm sure, couldn't care less because their situation hardly changed since the colonial times. All they got to do was duck the incoming barrage of bullets from confronting forces and firing squads until the end of the Revolution in 1920!!
Who taught them how to use the weapons and finance them the average Mexican never had a vote until they abolished illiteracy.
@@quartermaster1976 first, we knew how to use weapons, as I mentioned before, we were already fighting the war, and many others before not excluding, the US. FYI Mexico invented the automatic cannon and rifle, Google it. Also people already voted, that's how the previous president to Juárez had gotten there, and that's how Juárez became the Governor of the state of Oaxaca. Perhaps read history before making a historic remark, regardless of how bigotted and superior you may want to sound.
@@stevephlyer unfortunately, most Mexicans cared, and a lot. It was the lower classes who were dy1ing in droves during the war. It was their cities being sieged and their families going hungry during every hard-fought battle. It was them who from the windows resisted the invading armies, and it was their daughters and sons who perished in every battle lost. They had free will, enough to decide their own future. My comment rested on the fact that they portray these events as "the US getting mexico out of a pickle" when what they did was support the fight that was already there. They never consider the weight of our own people when speaking of these events. The second empire was not everyone's decision, and perhaps the lower classes didn't have a say, but in kicking them out they did. Also so did we when the revolution happened.
@@CogitoErgoSumFortis How many people could actually read bro don't BS me. You were a slave to the Euros or the USA and you chose the USA you would've had a better deal with the Habsburgs. Weapons cost money the US isn't helping for free. Democracy with 5% literacy rates is BS.
Had the USA annexed Mexico into the union, that regions culture, language, demographics couldve dominate within. And of course without national borders, they would be regional migrants just moving from one region of the USA to another. For job opportunities and vacation spots
Now it’s the drug empire
Please speak a little slow!!!!
El primer imperio mexicano abarcaba desde whasington no DC, hasta panama
first
mexican history is such a mess...I wonder how it still even exists....
VIVA LA RAZA 🧬💪😇💜
la raza de que?
Why? Your people never built a civilization worth living in. The earth is better with Mexicans in the backseat struggling to be American sl@ves
@@anthonyjackson7336 why are both of you nazis?
Lmao it’s SANTA ANA not Santarana 😂