He acctually went from 1st to 4th in the burnout. A jerico and a lenco trans are very different, a lenco had a separate case for each gear, it does have planetary gears. A jerico (which he had before this lenco) all the gears are in a single case and not a planetary gear design.
The fuel is leaded, my dad runs just enough oil to oil the motor, the pan is literally dry so the motor spins easier. He did Ia big wheelstand to oil pan crushing run one time and not a drop of oil came out till he stopped at the end of the track.
Yes sir, this is the duster, and that was him, he is the original owner. He did race several times at pennfield Canada and winterport before they shortened it to 1/8 mile. And yes it still is a smallblock. Thanks for watching
duh, sorry, wasnt thinking there... he used to be in superstock and the motor was very fragile. so he would turn the engine off so he could check the spark plugs at the end of the track to see if it was lean or rich. and the less the motor was running the better. it was a preventative maintanence.
Frank Mc3. Why would you be required to shit if your trying to drag race? Don't make sense that's like saying everyone that punches into work at Walmart has to take a pee to make sure they're human or some shit what kind of logic is that all race car drivers have to shit before they go down the track to make sure they're not robots or to make sure they're light as possible to make it more faster to get more fans take off point 00001 seconds if the driver weight is half a pound lighter from taking a shit before they go. Your a big idiot is that to keep robots out of racing or what? I don't get it
Haha, Slavonic, I see what you did there! Good one! But it wouldn't be about making sure you're human; there are immortal humans (people who don't need to eat) too. :-D
There are MANY classes that require NO electronics. Even this car has electronics in it. It has a delay box that all you do is let go of a button at the first sight of a yellow light, and it let's out the clutch for you. All you have to do is pull the levers when the shift light comes on. Simple. No different than any automatic with a manual valve body.
The car does have a radiator, the reason he shuts it off is just habit, he used to run a super brittle super stock motor and didn't want it running any longer than necessary.
He shuts the car off because of habit, he used to run a super stock motor that was very fragile, so the less time it was running the better, the car does have a radiator and stays retry cool with the water pump on
the lenco/jerico transmission are very simple design but sorta complicated also they are a planetary manual transmission. it did look like he went from 3rd to 4th on the burnout.
Habit, he used to have a very fragile superstock engine, sooo the less time running the better. He also checks a spark plug every once in a while to see if it's rich or lean
I thought shutting off the engine right away was a hold over from the leaded fuel days, when you would shut the engine off right away so that you could get an accurate fuel mixture read from the sparkplugs. Driving the car back to the pits would screw up the read because the idle would be so rich from driving back. Leaded fuel would leave different deposits than the "clean" fuels of today. Just wondering.
Yep. Same deal here. It's called a "plug chop". You kill the ignition to the motor during full throttle after the pass, and read exactly what the plugs are telling you during full throttle, full power, that way. You are correct, idling back to the pits ruins the "read" on the plugs at full throttle. Edit: This practice isn't just for leaded fuel either. It's also done for unleaded. Same thing. All plugs will display a "read" on them, no matter the fuel. Except with Top Fuel Nitro engines anyway.... the plugs are completely consumed during a single pass, and the engine is dieseling by half track, and will NOT restart without new plugs installed. The pit crew goes through the entire engine after each pass anyway. So it's not an issue.
when he is doing the burnout the back of the car turns some and when he lets off the gas and gets traction it goes straight. idk why they cut the motor off.
Keith Lauzier this is my dads car. This engine blew up last year and he just finished building a new one like a week ago. I have a dyno video of it on here. Check it out. Steve clukey dyno 2018. Look that up
chad clukey I saw the car last week at the track next to the trailer warming up. Sounded good! I run super so didn't have much time to watch. Will check it out
Back in the '70s I always wanted a Linco 5 speed but held off back then they were five grand and before that I was always thought why don't they make a stick with an automatic then found out they did the Linco I was running my 56 Chevy Gasser some might have heard of it Helter Skelter Southern California
Sooooo, if I understand i understand the levers correctly.... When they are all back, it's in fourth, right? So you did your first staging burnout in 3rd to fourth???? I know I sound like a dumb ass, but i've been scratching head over this thing for hours!
10 years later…. No he is going 1st to 4th. The farthest right lever forward is 1st. All of them back is 4th. All forward is first but the way it works is in sequence so you can’t “jump” a gear. Rip lever 1 back for 2 second lever back is 3 third lever back is 4 but if all are back except the first one as soon as he pulls that back to be second gear it is already engaged to 4th because the second and third are back. Just watch it a few times you’ll catch it 😊
Is that shifter street legal? Always liked them. Thought you couldn't down shift with that shifter. Looks like the Lenco could be down shifted? I have a vertical Hurst 4 speed, with separate shifter for reverse, M-22, in my 61 vette. Heard it's illegal, because of not being on one shifter. Had it on for 45 years. Never any problem.
ah I geddit, with all the levers unengaged it's in first gear. so if you have the clutch released in this position with car will stall like a normal manual car yea?
With all the levers forward accept for the little one it's in first and yes it would stall letting out the clutch, at the beginning he pulls the 4th and 3rd gear shifters back. Doing this does nothing till 2nd's shifter is pulled, then it goes into 4th
Not sure what setup he's using to release the pedal, there's several ways. I used an electro magnet to hold the pedal down with a delay box. He is using the button to launch the car, his foot is off the pedal & the delay box triggers the release of the clutch pedal. In this video he is running slower cars and releasing the button off their top bulb, delay box does the rest
I love watching this car run when I'm up at New England Dragway. A couple of questions about the lenco. Would they survive well in street use, especially in traffic. Also since they use separate cases for each gear, could one in theory add an additional case backwards to use as a 5 speed overdrive?
The transmission is actually an ST1200 which is a STREET/ strip transmission. I’d say it would be great. the way the transmission works is for each case is a gear so yes you can just add a case and a shifter up to 6 speeds. They can help you with gear ratios at lenco.
You wouldn't have to use any one case or section "backwards". You can get each section with whatever gear ratio that you want. Want something less than 1:1? Just get the last one geared like that
So I read in lower comments that a single-stick transmission supposedly can't handle the power that you need for this. So are these sticks set up as one per "lane" of the transmission (I don't really know of a technical term for that)? And if so, then what would happen if you shifted them out of order, like started with the middle or right stick?
It does have a shifter for each gear. U can shift them out of order but nothing will happen till u shift the next one in order... so if u try to go from 1 to 3rd nothing will happen till u pull the 2nd shifter back
It's actually a "stack" of seperate 2 speed automatic transmissions, all stacked together. The more gears you want, the more sections you stack together. Yes, it has a conventional clutch to get going, but once you are going you just pull the lever for each section to shift it. It would be VERY similar to putting a clutch on a regular automatic transmission. You'd need to use the clutch to start and stop, but it would shift gears just like any other automatic would, without using the clutch
Why the turning off of the motor after finish line with car rolling the car should still be dumping fuel in motor unless he shut off fuel at end of run at speed would this be a problem if he ran into issues where motor was needed to get him out of trouble other than that car and driver are great love the wheel stands
He used to run Super Stock with a pretty high-strung motor which needed immediate shutdown to keep the engine safe. Force of habit just carried over to this car. Might be checking the plugs after each run too so that would necessitate that as well.
This is his 49th year shifting this car lol
New motor this year. Made 883 hp 672 lbs of torque. Ran 8.591 @155.42 best
I always liked the Lenco ! What can compare to it Nowadays ?
Small block mopar? What block/heads combo?
@@chrisauten2039 Ritter 48 degree steel block w8 Arrington heads
@@chrisauten2039 tall deck
That cam is so wild the engine can barely idle
Thank you so much for allowing us to enjoy this with you. I would love to see more!
There is a lot of awesome going on here. Lenco, Cross Over Delay Box, etc. I love it.
FNTony 496 this guy went .002 on me on the tree with this set up lol.
He acctually went from 1st to 4th in the burnout. A jerico and a lenco trans are very different, a lenco had a separate case for each gear, it does have planetary gears. A jerico (which he had before this lenco) all the gears are in a single case and not a planetary gear design.
The fuel is leaded, my dad runs just enough oil to oil the motor, the pan is literally dry so the motor spins easier. He did Ia big wheelstand to oil pan crushing run one time and not a drop of oil came out till he stopped at the end of the track.
No clutch needed during a run, it's faster without it. Made to b used like that
Yes sir, this is the duster, and that was him, he is the original owner. He did race several times at pennfield Canada and winterport before they shortened it to 1/8 mile. And yes it still is a smallblock. Thanks for watching
The car does have a delay box, there is an air piston on the clutch fork , the delay box controls the air piston
Nothing like a bad ass lenco
Yes sir another Plymouth…👍
thanks for the great trip back in time, miss driving with my Linco.
@aaaaariiiiielllll Its an all out drag car, they are only meant to run a few seconds, and most dont run a radiator so it could over heat.
very cool videos. That malibu (2:10) looks fast until the duster launches.
duh, sorry, wasnt thinking there... he used to be in superstock and the motor was very fragile. so he would turn the engine off so he could check the spark plugs at the end of the track to see if it was lean or rich. and the less the motor was running the better. it was a preventative maintanence.
I love it...there should be more classes in dragracing that require the driver to shit...rather than electronics ...this is BADASS!!!!!!!!
Frank Mc3. Why would you be required to shit if your trying to drag race? Don't make sense that's like saying everyone that punches into work at Walmart has to take a pee to make sure they're human or some shit what kind of logic is that all race car drivers have to shit before they go down the track to make sure they're not robots or to make sure they're light as possible to make it more faster to get more fans take off point 00001 seconds if the driver weight is half a pound lighter from taking a shit before they go. Your a big idiot is that to keep robots out of racing or what? I don't get it
Haha, Slavonic, I see what you did there! Good one!
But it wouldn't be about making sure you're human; there are immortal humans (people who don't need to eat) too. :-D
YEAH, IF YOU AINT SHITTIN YOU'RE ONE OF THEM MILLENIAL HIPSTARS
Shit?????
There are MANY classes that require NO electronics. Even this car has electronics in it. It has a delay box that all you do is let go of a button at the first sight of a yellow light, and it let's out the clutch for you. All you have to do is pull the levers when the shift light comes on. Simple. No different than any automatic with a manual valve body.
Finally someone showing the correct way to do a burnout. 1st to 4th!
Yeah the guys at Lenco told dad you have to do it like that or it can hurt the transmission
Just start the burnout in high gear, and don't shift at all.... that's what I do. Easiest on equipment that way.
thanks for posting; always cool to see the old lencos in action
The car does have a radiator, the reason he shuts it off is just habit, he used to run a super brittle super stock motor and didn't want it running any longer than necessary.
he might be checkn the plugs after the run to read the tune. that's might be y he shuts it off right away
He shuts the car off because of habit, he used to run a super stock motor that was very fragile, so the less time it was running the better, the car does have a radiator and stays retry cool with the water pump on
New setup making 807.5 hp ran 8.98 @148 first time out
chad clukey Mopar forever!!! Had me a 72 Duster 340 Wedge in high school. Nothing like what you have but it was still fun!
chad clukey so when you burn out, you have to do so in 4th gear?
chad clukey I'm a mopar guy. That is one sweet Mopar you have there
the lenco/jerico transmission are very simple design but sorta complicated also they are a planetary manual transmission. it did look like he went from 3rd to 4th on the burnout.
1st to 4th
Even bone-stock 340s kick butt. The baby hemi!
This setup is faster than old rail dragsters back in the day!
Mopar for mo power!
The 340 is a wedge design. Nothing like a hemi....
Ran 9.000, 8.99 and then an 8.95 for bests 2 years ago
Haven't checked this in a while, launch is 7 to 7200
Habit, he used to have a very fragile superstock engine, sooo the less time running the better. He also checks a spark plug every once in a while to see if it's rich or lean
ive watched this car make hundreds of passes and it always put on a show. And im pretty sure steve bought the car new
Total beast!!!
Last run of the year was an 8.906
I thought shutting off the engine right away was a hold over from the leaded fuel days, when you would shut the engine off right away so that you could get an accurate fuel mixture read from the sparkplugs. Driving the car back to the pits would screw up the read because the idle would be so rich from driving back. Leaded fuel would leave different deposits than the "clean" fuels of today. Just wondering.
Yep. Same deal here. It's called a "plug chop". You kill the ignition to the motor during full throttle after the pass, and read exactly what the plugs are telling you during full throttle, full power, that way.
You are correct, idling back to the pits ruins the "read" on the plugs at full throttle.
Edit: This practice isn't just for leaded fuel either. It's also done for unleaded. Same thing. All plugs will display a "read" on them, no matter the fuel. Except with Top Fuel Nitro engines anyway.... the plugs are completely consumed during a single pass, and the engine is dieseling by half track, and will NOT restart without new plugs installed. The pit crew goes through the entire engine after each pass anyway. So it's not an issue.
Awesome!
Whats your 1/4 mile time. And for those that don't know, this is 1/8 mile.
love how the stuff behind the seat disappears and then goes right back to where it was after the run. 1/8th mile?
I ENJOYED THANKS!!
high volume oil pump sucking the pan dry is my guess
when he is doing the burnout the back of the car turns some and when he lets off the gas and gets traction it goes straight. idk why they cut the motor off.
Great vid, Grump approved.
Hell yeah, brother!!
This made me get out and wear down some tires.. Hahaha.. Love it!
I wonder why he shuts off the engine after the finish line??
And why he is so hysterical with the steering wheel before takeoff..
First hemi transmissions then jerichos
It's not a Jericho. Read the video title people!!
I think he means why did he turn the engine off.
That was cool thank you
They guy that just pops up outta nowhere at the beginning.
What clutch flywheel combo? Single or dual? Aluminum or steel flywheel?
He runs 9.20s most of the time, but has run 9.08 a couple times
u guys are amazing!
I ran you in 1st round at the valley few years back. Car is beautiful going down the track!!!
Keith Lauzier this is my dads car. This engine blew up last year and he just finished building a new one like a week ago. I have a dyno video of it on here. Check it out. Steve clukey dyno 2018. Look that up
chad clukey I saw the car last week at the track next to the trailer warming up. Sounded good! I run super so didn't have much time to watch. Will check it out
He would get another one if this one would ever wear out :) he used to use hemi transmissions
Back in the '70s I always wanted a Linco 5 speed but held off back then they were five grand and before that I was always thought why don't they make a stick with an automatic then found out they did the Linco I was running my 56 Chevy Gasser some might have heard of it Helter Skelter Southern California
@J2OLDS Also keep in mind lots of still currently available racing gasoline such as VP C12 is still leaded.
I'm going to put a Lenco in my '71 Demon. What bellhousing is your dad using?
Mccleod adjustable with cintered iron disk (it's my dad not sure what other specifics ur looking for)
Sooooo, if I understand i understand the levers correctly.... When they are all back, it's in fourth, right? So you did your first staging burnout in 3rd to fourth???? I know I sound like a dumb ass, but i've been scratching head over this thing for hours!
10 years later…. No he is going 1st to 4th. The farthest right lever forward is 1st. All of them back is 4th. All forward is first but the way it works is in sequence so you can’t “jump” a gear. Rip lever 1 back for 2 second lever back is 3 third lever back is 4 but if all are back except the first one as soon as he pulls that back to be second gear it is already engaged to 4th because the second and third are back. Just watch it a few times you’ll catch it 😊
@@midnyte_ryder thanks for the prompt response! 😂
this cars awesome! if ive got it right each lever is a new gear and you just knock it back to go up a gear?
Yes each shifter is another gear
Small lever is first and reverse
Real men shift gears they don't let computers and electronics do it for them!!
Real men drive whatever they want
Without worrying about what other
People think.
Only pussys drive automatic computer controlled cars!!!
That is one bad ass mopar
Very cool
Is that shifter street legal? Always liked them. Thought you couldn't down shift with that shifter. Looks like the Lenco could be down shifted? I have a vertical Hurst 4 speed, with separate shifter for reverse, M-22, in my 61 vette. Heard it's illegal, because of not being on one shifter. Had it on for 45 years. Never any problem.
No, it's not "illegal"
ah I geddit, with all the levers unengaged it's in first gear. so if you have the clutch released in this position with car will stall like a normal manual car yea?
With all the levers forward accept for the little one it's in first and yes it would stall letting out the clutch, at the beginning he pulls the 4th and 3rd gear shifters back. Doing this does nothing till 2nd's shifter is pulled, then it goes into 4th
Aaah, LENCO !
It's an st1200 lenco
So do you step off the clutch to launch or is there a button you release, or what? Im new to this type of setup but am very curious about it.
Ira Michaud clutch in this car. when your talking about buttons thats for a tranbrake equipped automatic . hope that helps.
Not sure what setup he's using to release the pedal, there's several ways. I used an electro magnet to hold the pedal down with a delay box. He is using the button to launch the car, his foot is off the pedal & the delay box triggers the release of the clutch pedal. In this video he is running slower cars and releasing the button off their top bulb, delay box does the rest
gearbanger57. I didn't know that was possible. but I race a no electronics class all shifts made with the clutch.
There is an air piston on the clutch fork hooked to the delay box
Very nice!!
they also turn em off because of high volume oil pumps sucking the pan dry!
Love it!
its still a habit to turn the new motor off at the end too
これぞニトロゼロヨンレースだ!!
Only thing better is to run 1/4mile.
I love watching this car run when I'm up at New England Dragway. A couple of questions about the lenco. Would they survive well in street use, especially in traffic. Also since they use separate cases for each gear, could one in theory add an additional case backwards to use as a 5 speed overdrive?
The transmission is actually an ST1200 which is a STREET/ strip transmission. I’d say it would be great. the way the transmission works is for each case is a gear so yes you can just add a case and a shifter up to 6 speeds. They can help you with gear ratios at lenco.
You wouldn't have to use any one case or section "backwards". You can get each section with whatever gear ratio that you want. Want something less than 1:1? Just get the last one geared like that
hell yeah!! badass!!!
So I read in lower comments that a single-stick transmission supposedly can't handle the power that you need for this. So are these sticks set up as one per "lane" of the transmission (I don't really know of a technical term for that)? And if so, then what would happen if you shifted them out of order, like started with the middle or right stick?
It does have a shifter for each gear. U can shift them out of order but nothing will happen till u shift the next one in order... so if u try to go from 1 to 3rd nothing will happen till u pull the 2nd shifter back
Lenco used to be a planetary gear system for water pumps but learned how to modify them to be used in a vehicle.
@@wepner: Interesting, thanks!
@@the101dad: Interesting, thank you too!
What kind of trans is that im not understanding how is works its a manual but u dont need the clutch to shift?
It's actually a "stack" of seperate 2 speed automatic transmissions, all stacked together. The more gears you want, the more sections you stack together. Yes, it has a conventional clutch to get going, but once you are going you just pull the lever for each section to shift it.
It would be VERY similar to putting a clutch on a regular automatic transmission. You'd need to use the clutch to start and stop, but it would shift gears just like any other automatic would, without using the clutch
Really cool, not retry cool
ゼロヨン帰ってキターーー!
Why the turning off of the motor after finish line with car rolling the car should still be dumping fuel in motor unless he shut off fuel at end of run at speed would this be a problem if he ran into issues where motor was needed to get him out of trouble other than that car and driver are great love the wheel stands
kevin fay he used to have a super brittle super stock motor. He was very nervous and didn’t want it running any more than it had to be. Just a habit
Bad ass
what clutch you are using
Which is that small lever?
Reverse
where do you run at? my boss man has one of those in his Calais Olds
fuck ya!
why he shut down the engine
Did i hear a delay box ?
U gapped that chevy! Lol
that,s cool
It's a lenco st1200
Thats a Jerico? are they any better than lenco and cheaper?
she did wat she had to do so he shut her down
Also I would have held it in gear just a hair longer
it's just the turn off to the return road comming back to the pits
Does he turn off the car once he passed the finish line?
And why?
He used to run Super Stock with a pretty high-strung motor which needed immediate shutdown to keep the engine safe. Force of habit just carried over to this car. Might be checking the plugs after each run too so that would necessitate that as well.
I likee!
@aaaaariiiiielllll could be because of over heating
8th mile im guessing
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not enough ponies.
Jerico trans