Imposters: The psychology of pretending to be someone you're not: Matthew Hornsey at TEDxUQ
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- Matthew Hornsey takes us into the adventures of some of the ballsiest imposters human kind have encountered, along with the romance and the lasting message they leave us. But the story doesn't end there. As he delves into the psychology of imposters, this phenomena might be even more prevalent and we might be looking at an imposter when we look into the mirror.
Matthew is the Professor of Social Psychology in the School Psychology at the University of Queensland. Matthew's primary research interest is in examining intragroup and intergroup relations in the context of identity threat. In this informative TEDx Talk, he examined the imposter phenomena in our society, and it might be more prevalent than you think!
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Orwell said, who ever controls the past controls the future. Who ever controls the present controls the past.
you what mate😃
among us players: write those down!
Taking notes 📝
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This would have been way more interesting if he concluded the talk by saying "I am Helen now"
bahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..... best comment here, lol.
Yes.... that would have been far, FAR more interesting.
I now have beer coming out my nose and nearly fell of my bar stool.
I thank you for that :)
Lol
Wow, this was good. The end was really good, universities and workplaces are rife with impostors, the anxiety impostors that attribute their success to something other than themselves, and feel that any day someone will end their career and good luck streak, and it does cause a lot of stress. I feel like that too, and I think the abundance of these impostors is both a good thing and a bad thing. "The idea of a true self is getting harder and harder to find" ..
Professori Courtney Warren once said somewhere ' The truth becomes your past, a lie becomes your future '
Orwell said, who ever controls the past controls the future. Who ever controls the present controls the past.
Fake it till you make it??......or fake that you make it?? or shake it till u bake it?
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kookyuke lol I love this comment
Please do not shake _anything_ while attempting to bake it.
Wake it till you cake it
I really liked this talk, he has a lovely manner as a speaker.
Great talk . I enjoyed it. He made lots of good points. It’s hard surviving in this world and belonging anywhere. People are constantly on the attack.
I also really enjoyed this talk. Thank you Matthew Hornsey.
OMG, these people are everywhere, the plastic shamans, 'healers', 'therapists', 'spiritual teachers'. Impostor detection is an absolutely critical skill. Beware of ANYONE who assumes a position over you. The truly good souls are humble helpers and creatives who are nurturing their gifts and the good. 'Overly impressed with the superficial'. Please look deeper folks. Especially at yourself and your gifts and goodness.
I so agree.
brazfan don't forget Pastors.. those are the worst.
@@paxsmile Tony Robbins and 'self help gurus' are the worst.
Grubby bum I think people who rob poor people to live like billionaires are the worst.
@@paxsmile well that sums up motivation gurus and preachers. Basically anyone who stands on a stage Infront of an audience, selling their ideas...
I truly, and surprisingly enjoyed his talk....
Who cares
This is a question that I've been thinking about for a long time: Can you really change your personality? because some people say that if you practice being someone, you become that person or are you just pretending to be that person and you get depressed after the persona you've put on starts to fade? Another thing is that I might be confusing behaviour and personality. You can change your habits and in turn change your behaviour by repitition but what about personality?
maybe just pull farther back and observe further what's really going on. you have likely already changed your personality in life and will probably change it again :). sh*t happens that makes sure you can't avoid that process lol. you will find these answers within yourself and your own past
My ex partner is currently pretending to be a psychologist. It is sad as she declined mental health services for herself as she was diagnosed in the cluster B spectrum..She is pretty and attracting clients with that appeal.
she still wrote a pretty good book
I hate how people tend to want to you verbally justify why you're worthy, because the more I use words and logic, the more they sound like lies. I feel like there's a very thin line between legit justifications and lies. It's so much better when you can just show others a concrete proof of your achievements. #jobhuntfrustration
"Tell me why I should trust that you're not a fraud and hire you on the spot."
"Well, I am both a Vietnam veteran and a doctor, so I am a very credible person, but also humble because I donated seven million dollars to charity. Did I mention I'm mega-rich and don't need to lie to you? It's because I'm royalty. Also I speak German."
"Someone who speaks German can't be a bad person. You're hired."
For a while, when I was one of Jehovah's Witnesses, I wished that we had some kind of uniform, but that faded, since I am not much of a conformist. I am too much of an individualist to belong to a high control group. I stayed way too long and didnn't fit in.
A situation of persecution is completely different.
I knew a guy who decided to call a mental health hotline. he decided to fake being Austrailian in order to impress a mental health professional and ended up with the cops taking him away to a psych ward. Turns out, he had a number of "situations" where he'd pretend to be other nationalities for attention, really freaky. I don't understand why people do these things. But I know being around these people isn't a good idea.
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I live next to one. A 45 year old man acting like a 5 year old. Very creepy behaviors.
I think we need to be more empathetic and tolerant. Pathological lying is typically only one of several mental disorders which accompany someone struggling with personal identity. Pathological liars inflate and decorate even the most trivial parts of their lives to create a more interesting and attractive identity. Fabricating an entire life story is problematic for the people who associate with these fabricators, but far more torturous for those in the identity crisis. Major depression, social and general anxiety, suicidal ideation, obsessive behaviour all accompany pathological lying. There is a reason people fabricate their identities-stigma, shame, and abuse do nothing in the way of solving it.
A great talk about impostors.
Awesome!
Don't forget the very popular television show, Madmen! The main character, Don Draper, was an imposter, and of course that added loads of tension, intrigue and suspense to the show!
This is an interesting take on impostors. It was not covered like I feel it should have been when studying the criminal mind when I was working on my Masters in criminal science. Thank you 🤔❤️🇺🇸
nice talk
Well said
Good talk uncle matt
Like people who have a higher self steem and they think they are really attractive when they are not? This is really complex,so many complex of personality and having a high or low self steem pretending to be someone you're not for appearing being this certain person on society for society to like you. While some of us don't really care about people,we pay our debts and taxes and our life is private we are not like the people who like gossipping much and care about their own lives.
If you try to be someone else you automatically lose you’re true self ;
And Life cannot be enjoyed without true self .
How did Helen herself explain her "imposterism?" Were her actions out of greed, her book a creation sourced to malign others, the culture/group she pretended to be of?
Did you ever meet again with your university classmate to learn her thoughts or reasoning; had she an underlying pull toward avarice, simple fantasy, or some purpose, desire to 'walk in another's shoes' perhaps for creative or a benign understanding of a life/culture different than the one she'd been raised in?
Curious if you've explored this subject more deeply.
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I was just self debating that question, I have an uncanny feeling the talk is given with a pragmatic sense of his acceptance of impostorism given his friendship with Helen, but also wrapped gently in a warning about these people, due to being possibly personally hurt by Helens impostorism.
Just a thought : ) .
Very interesting
really need to internalize this living in self!
+Andjela Tatarovic for some reason I was uncomfortable with his use of Helen's example... like I felt he for some reason should ask her permission to talk about her as such :P
why? she had revealed herself...nothing sacred about the doll!!
Yes I do not necessarily know what my 5 month ago self was thinking: since then I have been trying to live more authentically so perhaps I was just uncomfortable with the idea of living in-authentically and being found out; also just in the way he is using her example I guess he can't give her perspective on it to see if she had other motives... Yea I don't know what it was I think just the way her example seemed more of an accusatory one unlike the other examples he used, and usually it is nice to get to speak up for yourself if you are accused of something? But I suppose that doesn't make much sense in the context of an actual crime like the plagiarism so I don't know! Guess its ok to use!
Interesting seeing things clearer, but raises more thought, apologize things I got mixed up in past.. An that's all folks, guess this place is bit of funny game after all.::))
Hilaria Baldwin and Rachel Dolezal should watch this.
great 👍👍👍👍
This was interesting.
i liked it also!
My thoughts exactly
For some it’s a survival skill for others a game
I'm pretending to be an imposter pretending to be me.
watching this to improve at among us :P
12:43 all the names
Interesting.
forgot wedding crashers
"Tyler Durden! Tyler Durden, you f*ing freak!"
Group comment: the "vegetarians" who eat fish are pescetarians not vegetarians". Wow that was easy i was triggered? LOL. In the past when my mother was suffering end stage cancer she would answer the phone happy and joyous. i hated it. good thing i loved her SO much. tx great talk
Jacqueline Woo what are you talking about??
I like my personally but I really don't know why am i acting unconsciously like someone I hate and I really don't want to be him but everytime I do something it comes to mind it's kinda like an intrusive thought but yet I still can't pin why and I got this idea that I'm becoming him and every day it gets worse and worse
Help I can't enjoy anything in life
This seems unrelated to the video but do you want to talk about it?
Jesus christ.. I am totally that person he talks about at the end.. I recently commented on a video about Breaking Bad that sums this up very well.
Helen Dale is all over youtube now ... just check.
More questions, but very thought provoking, re: this strange Google reality.
Noway am I going into details with this stuff, interesting none the less. I feel I was so wrong before for a good reason, but round we go again, yip yip funny shit :) none my business, I just giggle here nowdays ::))
Yeh its strange place here..::))
I love the apologetic for the imposters in Universities lol... if these people are paranoid of being exposed - *specifically in academia,* then WHY ON EARTH COULD THAT BE? As the saying goes; "theres a sucker born every minute" - don't be one of them.
Truth is simple. There is no YOU
He sounds exactly like Jon Ronson.
He's an imposter himself ;)
how are we even sure the guy is for real,or just another impostor.
Aliyu Alkali if he was an imposter for halloween THATS your answer.
The Mysogyny of Australia 🤧
Can finally win a game of Among Us with this knowledge!
Before he was Richmond from the IT Crowd
Well that's just bloody rude.
You make a lot of good points. But, there are also a lot of other explanations for the same thing. For example, when a live studio audience is hired to clap when the applause light comes on, Who's the real imposter? And what's the real motivation? Or, maybe the "imposter" is just pretending to be an imposter, like when he gets laughed at, so he just says it was a joke. Or when a bully pretends to be a clown just as an excuse to torment you, since he can get away with it (everybody "knows" clowns are harmless). Why am I uncomfortable with praise? Because not all praises are equal. Sometimes the one who gives the praise is the imposter, and not the one receiving it. And sometimes praise is given for the wrong reason (they just didn't get it). What you praise, reveals what you value. But why you praise, reveals your way of thinking. And an inappropriate praise reveals the difference between the "what" and the "why" (just like an inappropriate criticism does).
Hillary Hayward-Thomas aka Hilaria Baldwin
Groups deserve it. Especially those Frat doods
Great talk, but there is a lot of unresolved trans stigma that gets alluded to. What does he really mean, to fake gender, based on his examples? His talk does not acknowledge the fact that there may not have been the historical terminology to for some of the people to refer to them selves in another way than they have. The label "to fake gender" is very subjective, and.. derogatory. Gender dysphoria is real, is it not?
Just another soft blow too our heads! Let's be honest! somewhere!
Dont be a stranger
Sometimes people will put someone on a pedestal when they are pleasing, but the moment they say or do something that isn’t liked they rip them down off that pedestal.
You can build a thousand walls, but you F one sheep and now you’re the sheep F’r🤣
Trans people are not impostors. They might seem to fit in this lecture, but not really. Not the way it's presented. Try to read up on the subject and be a bit more sensitive and nuanced about it.
Just because you're too sensitive doesn't mean everyone else needs to be. No one's trash talking you or your lifestyle.
slowfire2 ok... Caitlyn !!! I know it's you !! come out !!!
slowfire2 So you know Tranz peeps aren't imposters ! wow... and here I thought there may be on fake in every 10,000 tran-zez ..stupid me
Amen. that pissed me off greatly. Trans people are not imposters
The popular concept that trans people are impostors leads to loads of trouble. Many trans-persons all over the world are made victims of assault and even killed over this. That's not me being over-sensitive, that's true.
But doesn't all this group identity just lead to one group or an i dividual assuming superiority over another group or individual? It seems the only reason to pose as someone else is to pull one over another person or persons.... there is no benficial aspect to it so it seems, so why should we put so much stock into what job or group a person belongs to? Edit better according to whom? Who is to say a CEO is better than a poet or artist? Or a garbageman for that matter? It is all just another way to pose as superior to those around u....
I NEVER get that people are so suprised that they got lied to... Pff.. To understand this is very easy: 1. 95% of the people are very facile but they somehow think "i have a good knowledge of human nature" and could see it in the face or so if someone is evil. The totally overestimate their ability to reckognize other people. So i am always totally suprised by how surprised people are when they find out, that their neighbor is a serial killer. I would never think that from the short "hello" and "have a good" day i would know that he is NOT raping and killing girls in the forest. In fact i would not be surprides at all if one of my neighbors was a serial killer. 2. The western world too has a very strong culture that it is socially unaceptable to ask probing questions. In ANY context (Job, politics, private). So how should that work now?
I'm more interested in people with criminal motives to take another's place.
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Why the title is in French and the content in English. That's misleading somewhat
When the person who pretends to be someone else in order to deceive others is behaving in such a way that other people may or may not act showing a cautious distrust of their reasons for doing something hidden or not obvious! 😳 (This guy is so sus; I know he stole my fortnite card)
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Craze how there’s nobody here from present time🏂
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These comments old
i'm a lesbian trapped in a mans body
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Are Narcissists the same as 'Imposters'?????
No, but they love to pass themselves off as who they are not in order to reel in a new victim of their narcissism.
we're all phony imposters!!
While Köpenick was not part of Berlin at the time of the Hauptmann, it is now.
Rachel Moore...I mean Dolezal...I mean...Will the real Rachel please stand up....
xD
I don't see why this speaker would admire an imposter who manipulated soldiers into arresting innocent people. (And made off with public funds) He sounded like a destructive sociopath
+sonoki82 What is a postmodernist?
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I fe like I’m the only one:/
I was a blonde for years and decided to go back to my natural color,, brown.. some people hated me changing it and some loved it. Most of the ones who hated it were also dyed blondes and liked me being a fake to. Nuts. Fakes like Fakes.
You're beautiful with brown hair! I figured my hair is too black to achieve a believable blonde with dye, but once I wore a really nice blonde wig for a few months; and it was amazing (and scary) to see how differently I was treated by strangers.
congratulations! for me dyed blond speaks very bad of women. And I looove dark hair
Awwww...
Baby, you look beautiful no matter what color your hair is. It's what's in the inside that counts.
wghen tne8 imposter... is sus
Love how you just threw a transgendered jazz singer under the bus as an imposter, lovely.
right over your head
read the title and look at the definition of transgender before you speak
well played comment sir i like your style
I mean unless you're transgender, why do you care? Let people live their life and they will let you live your bigoted life.
Forcing me, by law, to use specific words is the very opposite of "letting me live my life"
To those who found themselves triggered and offended by the notion billie was trans, was discredited along with dehumanized to just a illness....please stop. STOP. Like right now, don't go any further.
When your feelings get raised it is best to take a deep breath, relisten to exactly what was said and THINK CRITICALLY before continuing on all flustered.
Ask yourself, did any one in this talk including billie have the medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria mentioned? What so Ever?
then ask yourself why billies story bothers you but the full breasted solider did not invoke such thoughts?
Is it possible you are culturally sensitive and aware of current trans issues, being their so popular at the moment, and applied your current state of awareness/sensitivity biases to his Tedtalk unwarranted?
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yes that's exactly what you are doing, and all the people who commented the perceived "injustice before you. Here is why
If you would have listened to his talk, at no point did he mention transgenderism at all and equally discussed the lives of his examples in the same amount of detail. So you are implying and assuming you have the knowledge and full facts available to know with 100percent certainly billie was trans and the others were not.
How did you reach that conclusion? because billie carried her male persona into personal life as well as career?
Please educate yourself more, read history books and immerse yourself in oppressive society's in both the ancient and recent past.
Had you watched this talk with a broader historical background, you would know women in every country and in every era have taken male identities and lived as men for the rest of their lives. Women who found themselves stagnant, bored, oppressed, uneducated and completely unable to choose their own way as women decided giving up their lives for a chance at fulfillment in other areas was worth the risk.
so women, worldwide in every age dressed like men, spoke like men, went to male schools, fought in armies and sought out lives they desired. Most of those women whom we have historical records of, speak of being lonely and desiring a male lover and companion. Most, not all, but most refused to honor that temptation and understood revealing their true identity could get them imprisoned, dead, or worse they would loose everything they had so bravely worked for.
So please, dear progressive emotional police dogs, show me one moment in this talk that eludes to anyone's sexual its or gender identity.
Could it possible billie was in a oppressive time and loved music so much she took the risk of impersonating a man, just to be able to fulfill her dream?? would it stand to reason the multiple wives were comfort to a lonely secret soul and maintains her male image had to extend even in the bedroom to ensure no one would question her validity? Any doubt would take her talent, her career, her fame, and lifestyle crashing down leaving her open to vicious attacks.
lovers quarrel and murder each other because of their closeness and her wives were also liability.
so I ask you, what exactly infers that she or any other in this talk saw themselves truly as the opposite gender ??
Is it more likely that these were bad ass women who were not ever going to settle down in lives made up of maids, mom's and gossip, like so many women in history have done? even mulan was straight and only posing as a man for external reasons...
And there is my point. You are attacking, assuming, and implying that this speaker would dare to stand in front of such an audience and proclaim that people suffering from gender dysphoria and attempt to live their lives as honest and as satisfying as they can, are in fact liars, frauds and people to be studied!
How dare any of you be so ignorant! you have 0 information on any issues pertaining to gender identity and still you attack this man as if he is so cold and so bigoted he would publicly discredit transgenders as fraudsters right along with the criminal imposters who used their fake identity to harm others!!
none of you think!
how ugly is your judgemental heart? how awful to assume such things with 0 evidence and NOTHING RELATED EVER BEING BROUGHT INTO THE CONVERSATION BY THE SPEAKER.
most people know by his examples he wouldn't include suffers of legitament mental issues in such a conversation but you fools actually are so quick to lash out, you actually thought it a possibilty???
you are full of ugly habits and in desperate need of more education. Please do us a favor and THINK CRITICALLY ABOUT WHAT IS SAID BEFORE U RUSH OFF CLAIMING INJUSTICE.
THE ONLY INJUSTICE HERE IS YOUR LACK OF WILLPOWER, THINKING SKILLS AND EDUCATIONAL FAILURE.
you all make me both deeply saddened and disgusted. Have a higher standard for yourself!
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Finally someone understands!! Thanks so much..your comment restored my faith in humanity!
carmen sierra You said “revealing their true identities would get them imprisoned, dead, or lose everything they’ve worked hard for” but also made many points about how there’s nothing wrong with being an imposter for the right reasons... so my question is why would being an imposter for the RIGHT reasons get you imprisoned, dead and lose everything you earned when it was earned legally with good intentions? 🤔 I can understand in rare situations overseas in countries like North Korea this could be a possibility but this is not a common issue. I feel like your reaching by A LOT.
lol the fact that "transgenderism" was not mentioned at all... is what makes this ted talk transphobic? jesus what a mess of a comment.
...did he just compare transgender people to people lying about their race??????
StarryKatsu um no, Billy had wives so he clearly had no problem with his male role
StarryKatsu No, there's a difference between a transgender person and a transgender person lying about their transition
StarryKatsu You can be authentic and transition between sexes. Often that's the most authentic thing to do. You can't be authentic and tell the world you were never the other sex.
What difference does the circumstance make? A lie is a lie. But I do understand why people in those circumstances would need to lie and I don't blame them.
I think why it took me by surprise was because he was implying transgender people weren't really transgender, but simply dressing up as the opposite gender and lying about their 'real' identity, as some sort of means to an end. I don't think that's super comparable to people lying about their race (usually as a way to make fun of/culturally appropriate another race?) since I read that as a more malicious or ignorant practice than actually feeling like you were born in a different body. So, I don't support people lying about their ethnicity/race but I don't think transgender people should be labeled as liars and impostors. (;u;)/
I was not surprised to see the avalanche of snowflake commentary on this one!
Tone of sexism from himself in his comment “could possible be a woman”.
not too impressed with the example of the obviously Trans jazz musician.
DistantAll why not? Don't look at the fact that he was transgender.. just stick to the fact that he lied.
Lmao if you were there, listening to the talk, you would've clapped like everyone else...
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Is it me or does he look a bit like RomanAtWood
David12 Martinez26 RIGHT
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I have these illusions that I'm Perfect (guy)
narcissist?
This talk does nothing in the way of opening a conversation about mental illness. This talk has only contributed to the overwhelming stigma that surrounds socially damaging illnesses like pathological lying.
Why is that?
This talk would have been much more credible if Hornsey had done his research on the history of transgender people. Billy Tipton lived a completely authentic life.
Betsy Hanger no he didn't.. he lied.
Betsy Hanger your emotions keep your ignorance and arrogance brightly lit for us to see. had u listen and thought critically about what was actually said, you wouldnt be stuck with such a disgusting habit
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I believe that most Americans are not grasping him because he is British
He does not sound English to me, he seems more Australian perhaps. He also does not look racially English either.