Sound Deadening a Campervan, The Right Way - Budget Build Ep 8
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
- How to apply Sound Deadening sheets to your camper van conversion in the right places and the correct amount. We talk about how noise is generated and what materials are best to use in each area.
Watch my previous video on sound and noise control here • Noise & Vibration in y...
The materials we have used for this build can be found here:-
Sikaflex 522 Adhesive www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_fr...
PeaceMAT Sound Deadening Sheets www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2848382977...
Closed Cell Foam Sound Absorbing Insulation www.ebay.co.uk/str/carinsulat...
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Thanks very much for watching and best wishes with your own conversion.
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Greg & Lou
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❤😢 I come back to look at Greg's amazing videos and I noticed the proportion between the number of views and the thumbs up😢😢 people you can do better than this❤ Greg puts a lot of energy into this and he needs your help with the algorithms❤
AW thank you 🙏🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@@GregVirgoe dude I feel bad that I haven't been to your channel since you started the build because I knew I was already Beyond where you had started and I was going to move forward with you which is right about now. LOL and I'm going to keep my word and one of these days send you some money to take the misses out for dinner
Wish I'd known about greg on my first build what a legend 🙏
I've been slowly putting together a day van for several months and was very close to wrapping the wheel arches in sound deadening as I had a fair bit spare and obviously seen 99.9% of people doing this. The explanation of why it wouldn't work and why closed cell would has saved me a load of bother. Really helpful and explained so even I as a first timer can easily pick it up. Very much appreciated - I'll also be taking a look at my roof. Definitely following 😊
While your videos obviously depict a specific model of van, your explanations and thought processes make your videos easily adaptable to any van. Always look forward to these.
The principles can be applied to any van conversion so I hope it’s helpful to everyone 👍🏼😃
It is nice to see someone doing quality work, properly, and knowledgeable.
Just wanted to say Thank You. It must takes lots of effort to do these videos, and I just wanted you to know that a lot of us out there appreciate it.
Finally someone who knows how to use it.
Yes, I have been dealing with reducing noise in mechanical systems all through my career, so i'm happy to share that knowledge
Respect! You are the first whose videos I was watching who really does understand what he is doing. Most of the others are just copying what they saw in other videos without any cluy why they are doing this.
Thanks a lot for all the awesome information and explanations.
Thank you very much for recognising this and I hope you find the rest of the series just as useful 👍🏼😃
Great stuff mate, you’re really helping me out………🍻cheers !.
Thank you for reminding people that adding sound deadening everywhere has diminishing returns. I've seen so many builds where people spend so much time applying far more than necessary.
The FIT RV came out with a couple of videos in mid 2022 on this topic that I can highly recommend for those that want to understand more of the science and see some semi-quantitative results.
I’m trying to explain that this heavy stuff is of no benefit on the deeply ridged panels as that already does not vibrate or drum like the Fiat panels do. So many are misled with wrong info.
Hopefully I can help to change that. 😊
just saw a vid of a guy dropping a tool on the floor and showing the difference between insulating and not. Um i guess he drops tools alot? So he wouldn't be allowed to work on anything above the first floor as that is pretty much an instant termination. I keep seeing people spending 3 hours cutting small slices and doing the entire lower ridges of the floor. I might do a couple of strips behind the drivers seat/middle hallway to do a comparison. I deliberately did not buy a ton of the stuff, i will have a low roof van. I have where the windows are planned so i hope 2 boxes are enough. I will entirely cover the wheel wells, someone did a test and the thicker stuff i have didn't work as well as the thinner silver stuff. Also 2 of the manufacturer's produce in the Russian Federation, I wonder how that is going or if they have relocated. The one US company i found is extremely expensive (they sell large sheets).
Good work there from one engineer to an other! Glad you are helping people saving money on their projects!
Hoping it will help people spend money wisely in the right places. 👍🏼😃
It may have been a previous video of yours (i watched so many) but it was one of the best pieces of advice, was drive the van for a bit to see what needs sorting, just like you've done here. It would be an absolute nightmare to fix something like that roof after the fit out! Great video nicely broken down!
Once you’ve done the internal strip out it’s essential to go for a drive.
You are absolutely right 👍🏼😃
I’ve never seen a roof detach like that! Vans looking good mate 👍🏼
There was very little original sealant that needed to be removed so maybe that was a Friday afternoon job 😂😊
@@GregVirgoe My first thought also, hope that the roof sheets went up and not that the beams came down, would make me think that something bended the van it self...
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Thx for showing, especially on the mass-adding pads, I've seen people sticking them to the whole floor already...
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Ohhh Nice, I didn't realize you had a new series going, great to see. Will have to catch up.
Welcome back 😊 link to the full playlist is at the end of the video 👍🏼
Honestly, the most informative and detailed explanation on van fitouts on youtube. You're an icon Greg!
I plan to fill in a lot of the gaps left out of other videos.. Glad that you approve :D
That roof surprised me, thanks for showing us.
No problem. Something to look out for 👍🏼😃
Thank you for your wise words, again 🙂
Glad you enjoyed it 👍🏼😃
This is a more common problem then people realize. Most people have no idea that the skin and structure are actually bonded together with body adhesive. Our brand new Sprinter had the same problems although not as bad. Sikaflex actually makes a specific body adhesive and I used about 3 tubes of it on every contact point between skin and structure. That really helped eliminate the tin can sound going down the road. Then the sound deadening dynamats installed and the van was literally 75% quieter then before. I recommend that anyone building a conversion van go through this exercise before insulating and interior wall panels are installed
just in time! watched you for years, just starting own build, everyone on yt covering a tonne of area, they have affiliate sponsors with butyl sheet suppliers, didn't make sense, already have sheets, i'm about to start that now, what a win!! you rule greg. also, love your delivery, so calming and the working class pom thing of "nothings a big deal, we've been through it all" is a calming influence 😊
Thank you for a great comment. Really nice to read your feedback.
What I was hoping to convey was it’s about using the right product in the right area and that noise reduction on floors and wheel arches is better dealt with by sound absorbing foam and not by sound deadening sheet. Hope that was explained ok 👍🏼
Nice one Greg… attention to detail, second to none 👌
Thank you, really appreciated
Aye, what are you saying LOL I do hope that was one of Lous good kitchen knives. You are making great progess
It's one I stole from the kitchen when we were doing the Sprinter build and now its an essential van building tool :D lol
Hi Greg i watched every episode of your sprinter build and was in awe of your talents and simple explanations, this ones no different. Thank you its helped with my build a lot.
What are you building Cliff and do you have much left to do now?
I never thought to do that before I started glad I watched it , Thanks .
Yes, most of the rattles etc can be from lose panels
O My God, you are really inspiring me so much! In my mind I've build plenty of vans (as a preparation of the real stuff 🙂) but you show us there's plenty more to think about while converting a van!! Episode 8 and still nothing build. I love it!! Keep up the good work Greg, looking forward to the following episodes!! Looking forward to all those tips and tricks you'll give us!!
This is defnately not one of those "from start to finish in 30 seconds" series LOL :D I want to show all the bits that others leave out, if you want to see a van built in great detail here it is
Great to be having two of these videos a week too, honestly they're brilliant, much appreciated. The way things are explained actually puts logic to the thought process rather than just blindly following someone else's build. Great videos.
7:20 I like to place the pads _almost_ in the middle & slightly twisted.
As you pointed out a few seconds previously you're trying to stop the ringing & placing the pad exactly is likely alter the pitch of the ring rather than stifling it.
Greg, IF CARLSBERG MADE VANS they would call it Greg Virgo. !! Simply the best.
I’ll drink to that 🍻 cheers 😂
You just saved me some quids, thank you! Got quite an amount of mats from people who just finished their vans and thought I'd need twice as much! Brilliant, many thanks 😊
I’m glad that it has helped you
Just as an additional thing you can use 3M double sided tape and the Sikaflex together if you’re impatient for waiting for Sikaflex to dry. good for situations where it’s a panel and you just want to stick and get on with it to finish the build. I’ve done it a lot with roof paneling etc where screwing wasn’t an option.
Awesome 👌 Super 🆒️ 👌 👏 👍
Thanks for sharing this info and advice and tips with us. Great stuff 👏 👍 👌 🙌.
Good to see you back Greg - the bonded joints you replaced highlighted a real problem with the way these vehicles are made.
Bonded joints represent a large proportion of the strength and integrity of the vehicle's structure - there is obviously a deterioration in the bonded joints over time, as you demonstrated with the roof panels.
On older vehicles it may be prudent to re-inforce bonded areas with a fillet of Sikaflex even if they appear sound - where the bond has deteriorated it makes sense to remake the joint as you did with the roof.
It would not be too difficult to do this, as once insulation and trim has been fitted the parts of the vehicle with failing bonds can move around and not be noticed.
Good show Greg! I remember when Mevi applied sound deadening to his van and realised afterwards that he hit the point of 'very little benefit' in return for £'s spent, not only that; it's unnecessary weight.
Enjoying this series Greg, and of course...a shout out to Lou behind the camera, she's doing a great job 👍
Yes theres only one or two places where you benefit from these heavy sheet applied as i've shown. The problem when other youtube videos show these pads being used in the wrong locations and it's the wrong application for the material, then everyone else copies it because they dont know any better and are looking to see what others have done. So hopefully if i can give some better advice and more importantly the reasons why, that will help a few out there. Will give Lou your regards :D Thanks
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OMG the rattling. I had the same problem with my Boxer. The back door still banged around quite a lot until the build progressed and the van filled up.
Thanx a million, just stumbled across your channel and I couldn't wait to sub, going through your vids with a cuppa and what a great load of content. Just off to buy my 1st camper and wanted to see what can be done to make it a nice 1 before I start my build, you got it all, Thanx Greg, and good health to you 👍👌
Hi Greg, I was watching a van build from the USA and he called it 'Rattle Trap', same thing one panel one piece, great series thanks Greg 👍
That’s a great name for it as it’s designed to stop vibration only 👍🏼😃
If in doubt, get the sikaflex out!
I’ve heard that’s the tagline of a really cool CZcams channel 😂
Great video Greg as always.
Hope to catch up soon.
Maybe I shoud l get some T Shirts made :D lol
Greg you just saved me about $400 us I’ve watched only 3 other people follow directions for sound dampening. Automotive panel bonding 2part epoxy is what manufacturers use. My 1 ton Dooley sprinter has some serious rattle action happening
I’m glad it’s helped you and I’m sure you’ll be able to sort that rattle now 👍🏼😊
Even though you state this is a budget build, we know it's going to be done nicely judging by your first one. Exciting.
I have managed to save a lot on the materials for this build but I won’t compromise the quality.
This build will be less than a third of our sprinter build approx £4K in total which is pretty impressive I think 😊
excellent as usual ! amazing this noise !
Thank you 😊
Greg Virgoe, the grandmaster of diy camperbuild.😊
I really appreciate that, Cheers :D
Very good explanation. Thanks. Jim
Thank you Jim 👍🏼😃
One word “excellent” - Thanks Greg! 👍😀
Amazing 🤩 thank you Geoff 👍🏼
Love it Greg, another excellent video. I don't mind the rattles in my small van - it just means I can't here T singing!!!
Love to Lou
Lol😂 I can’t show this to Lou now as you know it will get back to Tina 😮 then you’ll be in trouble 😊😅 looking forward to next weekend
The legend of Virgoe just grows and grows! Great content
That’s very kind of you. Many thanks 🙏🏼
Good ol' Stickaflex
Lol google wanted to translate that to English. 😂😊
If you are really pushed for money, you can cut the sound deadening pads in half for the smaller panels. We did this on our Transit and was still very effective.
That’s great advice as you don’t need a lot 😊
One of the best video's so far.
A million m2 of sound deadening matt wouldn't have solved the de-bonded panel supports.
Commenting every single video just because you truly deserve all our support. Thanks for the instructions!
What a difference that made, savage 🤙🤙🤙
Oh it was, 100% better 🤩
Excellent presentation and certainly the way we'll go with our Sprinter conversion! Thanks Greg!!
That makes absolute sense. I was wondering why on other videos only products and how to install it without explaining the physics.
Saved me some bucks
Top job as usual
Cheers John 👍🏼😃
Super and informative, and nice comparison before and after
Thank you very much. It was like night and day. 👍🏼😊
so glad you posted this, its exactly what we found, no need to go excessive. there are ways to save cost, time, weight and space.
Glad to Sea you are also on the right road :D
Excellent video.10+ Thanks a million for that❤
It’s a pleasure Christie 😊🙏🏼
Great Vlog Greg I have seen people use lots of that material in their builds and often reflect back to the Sprinter build to question if theirs is overkill! Looking forward to more Vlogs many thanks
It’s about using the right product. The heavy pads are only designed to stop vibration. If you want to stop road noise or rain on your roof etc then you need a sound absorbing insulation like dense foam sheets to absorb the sound waves come through the structure from outside.
Another interesting video and learned a lot I will keep following 🇱🇺
Many thanks Rob 👍🏼😎
Helemaal mee eens 😃😃
@@Albert_206 nog meer Hollanders 🥰 More Dutchmen
Such a relief to have clear instructions and well thought out ideas thanks Greg .
I’m pleased you are finding these videos to be useful to you 👍🏼😃
Great demonstrations here, I just sound deadened my van and hadn’t re bonded the panels so I will be getting that done this weekend!! Thanks!
It’s a quick job to do but will make a huge difference to noise later on
You did a fine job
An other brilliant video. Thanks 😊.
Many thanks 🙏🏼
Was on my toes this week!!!😅 Things you wish youd known the first time round! This, again, is invaluable information. We didnt know any of this and I must have papered our whole van with that stuff. 😂
You've saved a lot of people, lots of time and money. goatvanbuilder
Thank Fi 🥰 did you get a notification 🔔🤩
I did get one, but I also happened to be on CZcams at the time!
This is great, I wa savour to apply to the whole van as per lots of videos. Was concerned about the weight
Yes just no need to use much of this material. Just waste of money and as you say too much weight.
To sum up this channel in one word, which word should be the one?
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The best camper van build video bar none. 📹👍 Well done both of you.
That’s very nice of you. Many thanks and best wishes 😃
Difference is huge, in the beginning of the video while you were driving i though something gonna fall apart ;D. Only thing i was disappointed with was when you've knocked on the panel to present the noise and then you knocked again after applying a mat on the mat itself rather than on the panel, and you did it twice! Haha. Anyway thanks for another good video.
I could have maybe done that part a little better this shows the effect much better than I did czcams.com/video/Sl-4sJ_1wTI/video.html
@@GregVirgoe yup, that's good enough proof, cheers.
This video really helped me figure out where NOT to put sound deadening. Thank you!
Thanks Greg. Really useful start to my van conversion. To the point and dispelled a lot of the nonsense that is out there. Much appreciated. I look forward to more, as I watch your build progress, and prepare for mine.
Great info, well explained - thanks!
My dogs were going mad every time you repeatedly knocked on the van walls haha😂 great video, thanks.
Lol sorry about that. Good guard dogs 🐕😊
@@GregVirgoe close, idiot beagles haha
Nice one Greg, thanks for sharing.
Thanks again Mike. 😊
Great advice
Thank you 🙏🏼
@@GregVirgoe am about to do same van this info is invaluable mate
@@hegster1966 that’s awesome 😎 hope it all goes well for you 👍🏼😃
Just to say that you do a great job in these videos. You are knowledgeable, the subjects are well researched and you put everything across in a succinct and easy to follow way. Thanks mate, you are a diamond geezer
That is very kind of you to say so and thank you for taking the time to leave really positive feedback 😃
@@GregVirgoe no worries . I appreciate the amount of time and effort it takes to produce such great videos.
I hadn’t though of testing that Greg thank you. I’m just taking the floor out and the bulkhead so with it now empty it’s a great time for testing for rattle before it’s all covered in insulation 👍 like someone else mentioned this tip applies to all makes and model of van so another very useful video. Thank you 😊
Yes, a lot of these principles are not just specific to my van but all vehicles so there will be lots of tips for any self builder
Excellent video. Answered all the questions I had about insulating and sound deadening. Thank you.
iveliterally been bugging out to what the rattle in my van is! ill check the body panels tomorrow! awesome content dude. i have an 06 relay... shape before yours!
This is an 06 too but a Dec model so the first of this shape. 👍🏼😊
another excellent video thank you and your good lady
One of the best series of van build videos I've seen Greg. Thanks for the time taken to explain everything
That very kind of you, thank you, hope you continue to enjoy the rest of this build
Thanx! Good to see there is not much needed for the soundproofing. I am always tempted do overdo things, so this was very helpful! 🙂
Very informative, thorough & say to follow. Thank you
Well done. Thanks for the great tips.
Haha, top job again Greg as always.. Been watching a few of your budget build and low and behold I just did the same to my ribs and panel stays on the Sprinter as I have had chance to crack on and get something done. I used the 3M 560 PU which is pretty much the same as the Sika, albeit it does shrink a tad compared the Sika. Will continue catching this journey. Take care!
Fantastic! So appreciate all of this quality detail, Greg. Absolute gold dust!
Great video and good problem solving advice. Thanks Greg.
Thank you Amanda 👍🏼😃
Great work mate. I like the 3-1 solution for the wheel arches. 👍
My use more products when one will do right :D
Super informative Gregg as always. It's also refreshing to watch a skilled craftsman at work, making every job look easy !!
Thank you Brian, I try my best :D
Fantastic, good man you are.
Well done Greg !👍
Many thanks 🙏🏼 😊
will use these on the astra van ive just got , cheers
You are welcome 🙏🏼
Did my sound deadening today. Thanks for the helpful video 👍
Hi there I found this video very helpful I’m getting as much information as I can by watching all different videos and learning things as I go as I plan to get my van in the New Year thanks for all the useful information look forward to seeing more videos 👍🏻
Mate may god add some peace and quite to your life, great vid!
Bless you :D
Awesome job..Thanks
Absolutely brilliant mate thanks for that.
You are welcome Nate 👍🏼😃
Cheers Greg, I was about to smother my Caddy with those silver panels! I'm about to binge your other videos now 😁
Absolutely loving this build. Thank you.
Really glad you’re enjoying it 😊
Another informative video Greg well done
Thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks you for yet another interesting and well explained video.
I’m really pleased you enjoyed it 😊
Great info, thanks mate.
Very good explanation,Greg.
Glad you liked it 👍🏼
Amazing man !!! Thank you
Finding as a novice these videos very informative, thinking about having a go myself if can’t get this one😂😂😂
I’m do feel that anyone can do this with a little help and advice. 👍🏼😃
@@GregVirgoe it’s the insulating of the cab area I feel a little daunting and electrics but I’m sure watching this will make it seem feasible 😊
@@vivienne3757 hopefully our cab video we did earlier has helped give you some confidence 👍🏼