Art Conservator Reviews Restoration in Movies
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For the most part, art conservators work quietly and privately in their studios; their work never gaining attention and if good, remaining unseen. Yet you folks know how interesting this work can be and even Hollywood takes notice every once in a while. So today, instead of plying my craft peacefully in my shop, I figured I'd take a look at some of the most recognizable scenes of art conservation in the movies and see just how much they get right.
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I'm not a professional conservator but I think you should add mustaches to all of the paintings
And there, in the proverbial nutshell, is why you're not a professional conservator.... 🤔
I think it would be really funny if he had a mustache sticker or something for after a painting is finished and sealed
All of them? Sir, this is a landscape of a river. You can't add a mustache to this one! @pryordvm "ALL OF THEM"
I said it and I meant it :P
@@pryordvm Right. I've rethought my original reaction to your comment, and I now see its merits. You're hired.
the folding of the painting was BRUTAL
When I first watched it (about a century ago), I couldn't figure out how he did it with damaging the painting. I finally concluded it was impossible.
Yeah, I felt that crunch in my soul. Thanks, Julian.
Right? He may have torn it out of the frame, but it was still CLEARLY on a stretcher. Like... bro. You didn't even try with that one.
It hurt my bones 😨
RIGHT?! I was thinking he was gonna cut it off the stretcher lmao!
"This is not how art is stolen." You,d be surprised and shocked at how amateurish many art thieves are.
Not just art thieves.
the (arguably) most prolific art thief ever's MO was just walking into the museum, taking the art off the wall, and walking out. ig he seemed confident enough that no one questioned if he was supposed to be doing that
Coincidentally, the same actor, Peter MacNicol, is evaluating the paintings in both "Mr. Bean" and "Ghostbusters 2."
They take place in the same "universe". Lol
i love the video of julian pauses completely every time the video plays
I know I can't stop looking over there. Must be a better way to do it, but it's also very Baumgartner haha
Some of the other channels that do the "Person reviews whatever in movies" videos do the same thing. I assume this was done intentionally to mimic that kind of thing, I actually had to check to see if this was one of those cross-posted to this channel.
He looked very funny in some of them😂
You know how hard I worked to stay still, not blink or breathe!! 😜
The Vigo painting in Ghostbusters 2 is an interesting prop! It’s actually a photo! They set the photo up where they put makeup on the actor to look ‘painted’ and he stood in front of a painting backdrop… this meant they could cut between him moving and seamlessly change to film elements. The prop ‘painting’ is now in the Lobby of the Sky Walker ranch studio.
Cool info. Thanks
Thank you for sharing. I really want to find a smaller replica of the Vigo painting, for my cousin who is a massive Ghostbusters fan, to sit over his mantle piece in his man cave lol.
@@rubybuttons668That would be a Super Cool Gift!
Julian mentions seeing no haunted paintings, but long-time fans remember the baby sculpture in the storage closet...
The bit that always confused me in The Thomas Crown Affair is that when he takes the painting out at home, after breaking it in half while stealing it, the stretcher is intact! I have actually watched those two scenes multiple times to see if i am making a mistake, but no, he has a magic briefcase
Wow, that's a major continuation error! I mean, the moment where he folds the painting in half is pretty memorable, it's not like something that just passes you by.
Back in the late 90s there was a rival conservation studio, "Beangartner Fine Art Restorations." After the Whistler's Mother incident, the studio was closed and the owner, Aloysius Bean disappeared under mysterious circumstances.
Lmao 😂
It was all Rupert and Hupert’s fault
😂
Wait... Julian said he'd been restoring for 26 years now, which would mean he started in the late 90s.
And I've never seen him and Mr. Bean together in the same room! 🤔
"Bill Murray being able to walk into the studio not so plausible" If Bill Murray showed up at your studio and just wanted to walk in, would you stop him Julian? Because I'm pretty sure I wouldn't.
No, I’d die.
The Bean painting "restoration" scene gave me nightmares even as a kid! Sooo hard to watch
I hadn’t seen it before, and I was cringing. I don’t understand how people find this sort of thing funny, it’s horrible.
@@anna9072what! 😂😂😂 omg…. It’s hilarious! Get a funny bone, it’s meant to be ironic. Go suck the air out of the room somewhere else. Jeez. 🤣🤣🤣
@@anna9072 People find it funny because Mr. Bean is one of the best characters when it comes to physical and absurd comedy. Rowan Atkinson is very smart man, but he created that character to be universally appealing in its naive, childish, no-speaking charm. If you know anything about the character, you won't cringe, because you expect it from the character, and if you have some measurable common-sense, you can always separate comedy and reality.
@@zlatan_2197 yeah, well, I never have learned to distance myself from that kind of “humor”. I just don’t find people making fools of themselves funny. I know other people do, I just don’t understand it.
@@anna9072quick question have you ever seen a Bean movie or Mr. Bean animated episode as a child?
"No paiting has ever looked at me.... Not that I know of" 😅
Might be worth noting that the painting Judi Dench was working on was an in situ fresco, so it couldn't have been moved into a lab or studio in the first place. (And while today that would probably involve tenting off the area as a temporary clean room, the movie was set during WWII Italy, back then it really would just have been one person up a stepladder)
I have seen conservation in movies at least a dozen times, but never, not even once, paid any thought to it. This video is teaching me so much.
What were the other movies not included here?
Julian talking about paintings moving after smelling solvent to long, 'But I digress." NO, NO, there is a story there we need told I'm sure. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love the look on your face when Mr Bean messes up Whister's Mother 😄
This week with Julian: how to steal art - the correct way.
This was a very insightful reaction, thank you. And also, please do show us how you get ink stains off a painting if one comes across you. I am very interested now.
Most inks dissolve in alcohol
I'd love to see more of Julian's reactions to painting heists in movies and tv. If ripping down and folding a painting gets him riled he'd likely seethe at what other shenanigans paintings are put through in the name of entertainment.
i flinch every time a thief cuts the painting out of it's frame/stretcher and rolls it up to put it into a tube.
Don’t even mention the Just Stop Oil whack jobs. That’s just depressing. The rich arses who own the paintings would probably end up revving their engines a few more times in spite. Or taking a few extra trips on their private jets.
There's nothing quite like procrastinating by watching a professional conservator procrastinate
There’s nothing quite like procrastinating by reading a comment about procrastinating on a video of a procrastinating professional conservator
The movie "The Witches" from 1990 made me terrified of paintings for a bit because of the story the grandmother told about her friend who was trapped in a painting.
That scene is always one that stuck with me.
Mix that with A Christmas Carol and young me was terrified of ghosts coming out of paintings for years 😂
Haha me too! I was convinced when I was little I saw the people in paintings moving. Lol
I saw The Witches as an adult, and the story about the girl stuck in the painting is the most chilling part of the whole movie. Gives me goosebumps to think of it now!
The Whsitler's Mother reveal is one of my favorite scenes in any movie.
It's so funny and horrifying.
The ending when the real painting shows up again is my 2nd favorite.
"Okay, okay, let me see the painting again" And then he tries to escape through the window.
I actually say, ”Everything you are doing is bad. I want you to know this.” a lot. 😂
It's so savage lol
Not even mentioning that Peter MacNicol has *two* roles in this video? :D
this might be the first time i heard thats his name, i always call him the Biscuit
So next time there's a conservation sequence in a movie...we need Julian as a movie advisor. I would really love him getting such a job...
Honestly, Julian does such a good job explaining things on his channel I bet they could just watch it and know more than they ever needed to
Oh this is an interesting and fun idea for a video.
…and now for something _completely different!_
And the giant cartoon barefoot comes out of no where to squash the fake restorer.
I’d love a Baumgartner - Bean collab on a Caravaggio
The Mr Bean technique would make a great April Fool’s Day video. Also are you saying you can touch up my double chin?
I cant tell you how many times i have thought about the Bean painting while watching you skillfully restore paintings. I loved seeing your reaction to it. I was excited when i saw it in the thumbnail.
This is a fun break! And your comment about modifying paintings reminded me of one of my college dorms. It was an 1800s mansion that was donated shortly after the great San Francisco Earthquake to what was, at that time, a teaching school for women run by nuns. The dining room had a beautiful hunting scene on the walls. The nuns had some modifications made so the painting would be "appropriate" for the ladies who would be staying in the dorm... specifically, the dogs were all "castrated" by painting out the genitals. 😅 The artist responsible did a masterful job - you basically have to have your nose to the fall to identify the overpainted sections- but i've often wondered what it looked like intact for the nuns to declare it so inappropriate!
According to the director of the Thomas Crown Affair, that heist scene originally included the details of how the briefcase worked and how it was able to fold the painting with a minimum of damage. However, it was decided that it took too long and slowed the pace of that tense scene too much, and was cut. The footage was not included in the deleted scenes on the DVD, so I have always wondered what the props department had come up with as an explanation for why the painting wasn't just completely destroyed!
I didn’t know that, I’ll have to watch the extra scenes! It’s certainly possible to fold a painting- we’ve done it, just not the way it’s depicted in the film.
I watched Bean as a young child. Not only did the destruction of that painting distress me SO MUCH that I never finished watching the film (until this day) I am also now, age 19, genuinely going to university to study to become an art conservator 😭
I can’t help but think that it played a role in shaping my future career.
Huh, lacking the two I thought of: Home for the Holidays and Still Walking... which are oddly similar moves about art conservators going home to visit their dysfunctional families.
I also came here to suggest Home for the Holidays, if this becomes a series!
I've been following you since 2020, JUlian, your videos have been amazing, and once I thought it would be great if you made video recations of conservations. It would be great if you could react and review the failed restoration of the Ecce Homo in Spain. Love and hugs from México!
Yes, Julian should review that one. I'm glad to see someone that is also from México around here.
I agree
This is my high-tech art theft briefcase.
*"CRUNCH"*
You should see The Monuments Men. A WW2 movie about artists from different fields, finding and recovering pieces of artwork, and religious icons stolen by the Nazis. Some sad and funny scenes in there.
Ohh I loved that movie!
Great book!
"Touch it up" is how Rembrandt's Arquebusiers became The Night Watch. And if you want real horror stories, look at how pre C20th art practice is depicted in films and tv - truly skin crawling.
I've watched some of the BBC Series "The Repair Shop" where they focus on repairing/restoring items of high sentimental value, more than high monetary value. The painting conservator uses some of the techniques I've seen here in a much smaller way, e.g. a small iron rather than a hot table. It is hard not to compare! I get it, but it is so easy to think: "This would be so much better if you were to take the painting off the stretcher and put in on a hot table to reattach that flaking paint!"
seems like a crime to be this early
Would love to see an episode on how an artist could construct sth easy to conserve, or how conservators would love it ;-) like: which type of wood, how to fix the canvas, which painting style, which kind of varnish etc. :D
exactly i think thats what we would all rather see indeed.
Mr. Bloomfield (Bloomfield Art Restorations) sometimes talks about that in his videos. One thing I remember is waiting before you varnish an oil painting, waiting for several months.
1:30 - He knows the exact model of toy he's working on, it's not some unknown ancient painting.
I don't disagree but like if the toy wasnt exposed to chemicals that might has effected the paint. Maybe woody also had a run in with Mr bean???
I had not noticed just how much art conservation is depicted on screen. Enjoyed this video.
Ooooh more more more!
5:56 everyone was waiting for this day. I waited patiently for years, I said "one day, one day..." and finally... ;) excuse me guys I was very touched.
Very clever! I suspect that the smoking was a deliberate attempt at ironic humor, but you were right to call them out on it.
11:20 what? you always look spiffy, julian.
I knew Ghostbusters 2 was going to be in this. As a child of the 80s, the guy in this painting STILL scares the bejeezus outta me. 🤣🤣
Home for the Holidays-1995. Holly Hunter is a conservator! Love that film.
Love that movie!
“Paintings aren’t alive”
Ok, I’ve learned something new today. Thanks!
Whenever I watch expert’s react to movies/tv show I’ve always hoped you’d make a video like them.
He’s so adorable and I love closing my eyes and listening to his voice 🥰
Toy Story 2 - While rare at the time of the movie, Woody's were once a mass produced toy. When cleaning your 407th version of the same eyeball, from the same factory, you probably already know what solvent is safe.
Julian!!! You should do a video for artists on what they should do to properly prepare and protect a painting today to make it easier for restoration in the future.
The SquareSpace ad transition is incredible.
This is such a cool idea! It's a ton of fun watching you pick apart these scenes
I have been watching you for years, and while I have observed many types of skills and can predict the next steps sometimes, your work is art onto itself.
I didn't know you had swiss roots. I have definitely heard the name Baumgartner here before. Trying to find my way into art conservation and restoration, so thank you for keeping my interest high :) greetings from Switzerland
I’m half Swiss so it was fun to see him mention it
Everything is spot on in this scene ... EXCEPT FOR THE SMOKING!!!😆
12:57 😂😂 the chemicals comment got me 😂😂 why do i feel like he is speeking from experience 😂😂😂
Fatal unforced error is probably the most succinct description of Mr. Bean that I've ever heard
For some reason I now want to see Julian paint a moustache on a painting of a woman with a double chin...
I'd like to see Julian do an "everything is wrong" type conservation video, where he adds or removes things like beards and mustaches, changes elements of the painting, swaps out colors, doesn't use the right materials, etc.
You should see Toy Story 2, to understand the context of that scene.
Painting over Andy's name, is a slap in the face to the relationship between Andy and Woody.
And what happens later, when the paint starts coming off and the name becomes visible again, is symbolic for Andy and Woody reuniting.
Seeing toy restorations and repaints, it is baffling to me that guy didn't use any form of sealant to protect the paint from chipping/dust/anything in the environment that can harm the toy.
It's a fantasy kid's movie about talking toys and you're worried about what, exactly?
I get excited every time you upload a new video!! Love from France!
Uncovered is such a great movie, it's the first thing that came to mind I saw the thumbnail. It's a type of thriller that for some reason doesn't get made anymore. Thanks for the great content!
It's not a movie restoration but the infamous 'botched restoration' of the 'Ecco Homo' fresco of Christs face by 82 year old amateur painter Cecilia Gemenez in Borja Spain, is a standout for me.
You know, when you’ve mentioned your father in past videos this is pretty much what I was picturing.
The Bean painting scene made me want to scream as a kid, and it still does even now!
I would never have guessed that art restoration figured in so many films!
Fascinating video! Thanks Julian.
I've been following a channel "The Chateau Diaries" and how they have been conserving the paintings in the chapel. The same art conservators that have worked on the painting at Notre Dame are working there, it is fascinating to see their progress. Well worth watching.
I rewatched Ghostbusters 2 very recently and thought of you when I saw that scene. I was pleasantly surprised by how realistically they portrayed it.
Really enjoyed this format!
Cool concept, Julian! Thanks!
I legit had the worst nightmare as a kid feom that one Mr Bean movie… No wonder i became an artist.
Loved the episode, thank you for it! So entertaining 😊
I’ve got another one! In ‘Head over Heels’ starring Freddie Prince Jr. & Monica Potter. She’s a restorer and on one painting she’s working on she gets to decide which face to paint onto a painting that had damage, without knowing that it looked like before 😅
I watched a lot of Julian's restoration works, and while they're incredibly done, I believe Mr Bean's conservation of Whistler's Mother was the best I've ever come across. 😂😂
This was fun. Thanks!
As someone who has grown up around medieval churches, the last one rings really familiar. In case you didn't know, medieval European churches were often richly decorated with murals on the inside. During the reformation in the 1500's, the murals were painted over with white and many of the sculptures were put away. Anything made of precious metals were confiscated by the state. The reasoning was that art was a distraction from religion and that the church held too much power and riches.
Many protestant churches have since changed its approach to art and have been working to restore some of the medieval artworks still hidden in churches. Statues and icons have come out of storage and been put back on display, and, as seen in the clip, some of the murals have been uncovered. Today it's not uncommon to see medieval icons of saints in protestant churches, even though protestantism doesn't recognize saints.
One of my local churches was put trough a thorough art restoration process some 20 years ago. The restorers used bread baked from a secret recipe the clean the murals. Do you know anything about using bread in art restoration, Julian?
Another video.. a good day. EDIT: I'm an electrical engineer and the stuff they get wrong in movies is hilarious. I've learned to keep my yap shut when watching movies with my wife, but with my older brother (also an EE), we laugh out loud. Second edit: I want to hear the story about the water color over the oil painting!! We all do Julian!!!
My father was an airline mechanic his whole working life, and he would always pick apart airplanes in the movies 😅
It's Sjöberg's Law: any representation of a skilled profession in movies or TV will inevitably piss off members of that profession. Ask any archaeologist about Raiders of the Lost Ark...
@@dbevry3424 Your dad must have *loved* Bruce Willis dropping a match onto "jet" fuel (heating oil really) in Die Hard and watching it not only ignite by match (impossible) but more impressively the flame front catching up with a jet airliner right at rotation!!
@@KSignalEingang Ah, there's the difference between technical people who love movies and jerks. Many skilled people don't get pissed off, they smirk and enjoy the movie or TV show anyway. I always wondered what doctors and lawyers think of movies??
@@ohger1 It's maddening because people who *don't* know how something is done, then go on and act as if they now *do* know...because they saw it on tv or in a movie. 🙄
Well, Julian is just going to have to accept that the conservator in Toy Story knows more than him! 😂
That was really interesting! Thanks for your insights!
8:03 this is the painting i thought of immediately when i saw the overpainted lady with the lace ruff lol
Love this content!
Your red lights - green light stops are PERFECT!
Bernie in Sydney
I love how much ive learned about art conservation thanks to this channel 👍this is one of the best parts of what the internet is
Technically, it's an art heist film with a forger and an art gallery curator, but Stealing Raden Saleh has a scene where the curator authenticates the art and a long montage of the forger replicating the painting down to the cracking
To be fair to Ghostbusters/2 not many people are able to make enough money to make a living playing for their city's symphony. It's likely Dana's job was conservator all along and the symphony was a side job or piece work, where she took the nights/hours as they were offered to her. Kind of like being in the opera chorus, it's where you make your cake money, not where you make a living.
This was so much fun. Thanks, Julian
This was a delight! I love film and I love conservation. Thank you.
I seriously love your content, your voice, and your regular videos. I have been waiting weeks for a new one as interesting as this was I was just a wee bit disappointed hoping to see some regular *cleaning* content soon - thanks - a loyal subscriber for the last decade 😅
For all of our childhood we thought that the doll renovator from Toy Story 2 was some god-like top tier professionalist - and this man casually roasted him to death, like he was some kind of incompetent fool 😬😬😬
Yessss, this is a great format for Julian! Concentrated bits of knowledge in direct reference to existing media! Bit of a nostalgia trip for me, too, being around Julian's age, to see the 90s hair and makeup again XD
Extremely entertaining and of course, also informative, thank you!
Julian with the flawless SquareSpace segue again
Why do i always find these clips 20 min after they post...am i that hooked on watching restoration? Wait did julian just critique an animation lol
Enjoyed this video. Great idea. Don’t hesitate to do it again.
This was a fun change of pace!
Very informative. Thank you.