Don't Ever Do This With Your Coffee Machine (like never ever)
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It seems that I do indeed have one rule when it comes to making coffee: No putting milk in your coffee machine if it's not supposed to go in there.
But besides that, brew away to your hearts content!
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Why not try the same with manual espresso maker like the flair just to be sure this isn’t a bad idea 🤪
I don't think you know how much we appreciate videos like this Morgan. You take the hits so we don't have to
What about making a cold brew by replacing the water with milk? That way you dont have to worry about the heat
It would be cool if you could make a follow-up on different ways to coffee infused milk. Like putting it in a french press or some other easier to clean coffee making product.
Morgan telling people not to do something: "Maybe possibly probably don't do that"
James Hoffmann telling people not to do something: "Just no" *weighs disappointment in grams*
lol. The Hoff's grimacing face after tasting something terrible came to mind.
I've watched enough James Hoffman to know there are certain things that are bad enough that you just don't do. Like drinking ground coffee from the 60s.
@ I’ve watched enough Hoffman to wonder if he’s ever enjoyed anything.
@@AveragePicker Looks like you haven’t watched him enough. There are a good number of videos where he liked the coffee.
@@AveragePicker the Niche Grinder. Well made ciffee in general, made well.
11:12 Morgan fights the instinct to dump this stuff down the drain as fast as possible. That eye contact with the sink lmao
I visualized a Gordan Ramsey moment of smashing the cup, carafe and machine into the sink followed by DONT DO THAT! 😂
One other factor working against you in this fashion is that coffee is made by dissolved solids from the beans into the liquid. Milk already has a very high amount of dissolved solids and will never be able to attain the extraction level of water for this reason.
100%
If one desperately needed to do this, I feel like a french press would be best
Very true! You could control the milk temperature before hand and the cleanup would be so much more doable :)
@@morgandrinkscoffee new video?
i've done that! it's kinda delicious, works well with a dark roast, and has a really great mouthfeel
@@morgandrinkscoffee please do a part 2 where u try this
Or try and make a cold brew with milk?
i tried to explain this to a friend. half an hour of listing all the negatives and they weren't convinced that its that bad. then i asked them if they would like a $500 cappuccino. that did the trick :)
I almost let a tear out seeing Celsius in this video. I finally understand what you are talking about on coffee without having a second tab open for calculating fº to cº
This is my 2nd Keurig coffee maker of this model. czcams.com/users/postUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf The first worked fine for more than 2 years, and I could still get a decent cup of coffee out of it if I fiddled with it when I decided to replace it. The problem I had with my first unit was this: When attempting to brew a cup of coffee, the unit would either keep brewing until the coffee was undrinkable or it would not run long enough and the coffee produced was way too strong. I cleaned the unit as best I could but it did not help. So in the end it was just too much trouble to get a good cup of coffee out of it, so I decided to replace it with a new one, which has been working great since I unpacked it.
What about cold brew with milk? That way the milk never gets hot.
sounds fine. you're not putting it in a machine.
Just googled that. It works and only takes 8-10 hours. Left longer and it will become bitter. If the internet advice is to be believed. Maybe Morgan will try that?
I imean it should be fine, you might have issues with milk fat coating the coffee beans and you might not get all the flavour you want into the liquid (the part of milk that is water and not fat)
@@loriki8766 That surprises me a bit, I would have expected it to take longer due to the milk having less capacity for extra dissolved solids.
I have done this once, with full fat milk. Only took 2h-4h to get a decent extraction, presumably because the coffee is more soluble in fat than in water. It tasted great. Felt like drinking a glass of milk, but with an intense coffee flavour.
I've always imagined this would be something small children would do trying to make their parents coffee, but not fully grown adults..
Many of them are still children mentally
@@jakubjanicki9148 pfffffff dayum
I have a moccamaster and my wife is pregnant with our first child. This is going to keep me up at night.
That both sounds really wholesome and creepingly dreadful because I can only imagine the parents rage at the destruction of their coffee machine yet the child was so well meaning about it that you’re not sure if they deserve that anger.
Lmfao I feel so judged 😅
The title of this video should be Morgan Politely asks you to not put milk in your coffee machine
Poor little sacrificial machine. I've heard of making instant with milk and skipping water all together but this is next level coffee hacks that should not be a hack lol.
Side note, so glad you got a bag of Red Bay. It's my favorite local brand! They're doing great things in the world of coffee from the Bay Area 😊
I am ashamed to say at one point I heavily considered doing this 🤣🤣🤣. I decided against it because I wasn't sure how I'd clean the milk out. Thank you for confirming that it was in fact a terrible idea!
aeropress is looking at you 👀
@@TheMarcioChannel No. Stop. Go sit in the corner.
A former colleague felt that the coffee from the commercial drip machine in the office wasn't hot enough (even when fresh)
Instead of microwaving it like a sane person, he would put it back through.
Fortunately he did so before adding milk, but it still utterly destroyed anything good in the cheap catering coffee we used.
Still wasn't hot enough for him.
You really should show him the articles detailing the strong connection between drinks that are too hot and throat cancer.
He really liked the taste of boiling flesh huh.
The most terrifying part of brewing coffee with 195 C water would be insane pressure you'd need to be brewing under.
Just under 15 bar, so not absurdly scary, but it would certainly destroy all the things that taste good in coffee.
You should realize that water turns into VAPOR at 100°C so brewing coffee at 195°C would be impossible.
@@patrickallaire8505 hence the pressure, higher pressure = higher boiling temp
@@ryhdrs Indeed. At 15 bar and 195C water is just starting to boil. It would be like brewing coffee in a seriously overbuilt pressure cooker.
@@patrickallaire8505 high pressure can keep water liquid friend :)
Morgan: you're lactose intolerant. You love coffee almost motherly. You're one of the tidiest CZcamsrs I've ever seen...
... and yet, you do this. For us, an undeserving crowd.
My skin crawls at the thought of a latte with a butiric acid aftertaste...
I hope you never have to do something like this ever again.
Yeeaarrssss ago, this was high school time… just getting into somewhat liking coffee… I brewed coffee with coffee thinking I was an absolute genius and the only one in the world who could have come up with such an idea.
My mom was so mad.
And… I love you for doing your best with the fahrenheit / celsius thing!
I once brewed my coffee with red bull instead of water. I was speeding for 10 minutes on interstate before I noticed that I forgot my car at home.
The moment Morgan said the words milk and coffe machine I immediatly had to think back about how increadibly glad I am, that I never used the coffe machine at my old company, which probably never saw milk in the water chamber, but definitely saw a lot of mold in the spots nobody usually looks at.
Putting milk in your brewer seems insane. However, steeping whole coffee beans in a hot milk/cream mixture is a great start to some delicious coffee ice cream. You often scald the milk/cream before making the ice cream so it works out well.
I remember when I was a young boy of 13 years, and I wanted to make some hot chocolate with the Keurig pod and milk. Obviously, it scorched all the milk and completely ruined the entire brewer. We were able to get most of the scum out, but there was the plumbing past the boiler tank that we could not reach. It never tasted good after that, so we ended up throwing it out. :(
Assuming some portion of the folk watching this video would have tried this, then you did more than save the life of a coffee maker. Food safety is not always intuitive, many times it needs to be taught. Thank you, Morgan. :)
yeah this one is pretty damn intuitive
I absurdly anticipated that you were going to chainsaw the condemned machine in half for some reason
Red Bay Coffee is just okay in my opinion. I ordered coffee from them on several occasions of several varieties, and none of them were really distinct or enjoyable enough for me to want to order them again. Part of that may be because (last i checked) most, if not, all of their coffees are either medium or dark roast, while i prefer light roasts. One good thing is that all of the coffee i received was roasted quite close to the time i had ordered it, so if you're worried about that sort of thing, that's good.
Another thing i will say is that their customer service is quite good. Their coffee ships in compostable mailers, and one of my orders must've gotten crushed against the corner of a box or something, because when i opened the package one of the bags of coffee had a giant hole ripped in the front. I contacted them via email and they sent me a new bag even though i was unable to provide a photo of the damaged bag (i had already discarded it) with no further questions.
Great video!
In the interest of the Scientific Method, I'd love to have seen you brew a traditional pot of coffee with the sacrificial machine before the milk got dumped in, just to prove that the weird flavor in the milk brew wasn't an artifact of the machine.
We all know that it wasn't, but this is the Internet, so I'm required to be pedantic.
I am IN LOVE with the new merch! Such a fantastic design! And your cropped hoodies are the comfiest thing ever!
Morgan's little chuckle/giggle/laugh is contagious. Lots of air escaped through my nostrils
I once brewed with milk in an Aeropress, and boy was it disgusting! As you could guess, it was horribly underextracted and super acidic because I brewed it at like 160F or 180F to not scald the milk. I was surprised the milk didn't curdle because of how acidic it was. It was also kinda salty, so it tasted like a sharp cheese with lemon juice. Never again!
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THANK YOU SO MUCH for including proper units your international viewers can understand
I've always been really curious about this!!! ...and lowkey scared to do by accident on my espresso machine while I'm half-awake. Thank you for answering this curiosity.
Boiling milk tends to develop a skin on top from the milk solids, which increases the pressure and thus the boiling point. And then it explodes violently. That's why milk heated in a saucepan will often boil over. I can't imagine that that does the insides of the machine any good either.
The editing getting better and better on your videos. Great job!
As a brit, I appreciate the translation, but I'd suggest you just use farenheit as usual and pop the translations on screen in the edit. That'll make the video more natural and easier to watch/understand for everyone IMO.
Good idea!
@@morgandrinkscoffee As a Celsius user, I agree, just pop the C value on screen when you say the frankenheight (hehe ;)
Was about to suggest this too. Maybe say it once or twice for people listening but not watching everything for most important degrees but not every time.
Saying it might be good for blind viewers though
@@GoogelyeyesSaysHej I was thinking about that, could be put into the subtitles? I don't know if any software would work for reading that aloud for the blind?
Wonderful video as always, but I'd like to point out that the bad notes might also be coming from the "brew" process itself. Both milk AND coffee have fats/oils in them, which help pull out hydrophobic ashtray, earthy, bitter and generally acrid compounds. (Think light roast arabica vs oily dark robusta).
I had an idea of making a milk cold brew and it was horrendous, unless you cut it 20/80 with a normal cold brew, milk etc.
omg, the amount of care for people who don't like numbers. Thank you, Morgan, I feel special 🧡🧡🧡🫐🌿🏃🏼💨🌸
I very much appreciate the sincerity you brought to this video. I also appreciate that I know I'll never have to destroy a machine to satisfy this specific curiousity.
But that pink espresso machine... Love it so much.
I also have a small B&D 5-cup machine. It's been a great little machine for less than $20.
I just ordered a hoodie! Love your channel!
The date on the milk is a sell by date, not expiration date. This is why we waste so much food in the U.S.
If the intended effect is just extra milky coffee, it would probably make more sense to mix instant coffee/coffee concentrate with milk instead of water, or the reverse, reconstitute dry milk powder with brewed coffee instead of water.
I do feel like the instant coffee brewed in steamed milk would probably work decently?? A good camping latte cheat if nothing else!
Milk and instant coffee in a mug and heated in a microwave works fine and is perfectly drinkable.
my dad does this occasionally its honestly not bad
thank you @MorganDrinksCoffee. Great advice. I have had many people ask me before if milk is okay in a coffee machine. I can now share your video with them.
I bought one of your new hoodies yesterday! I am so excited to get it :D
Thank you for this. Because I'm A) 50 years old and B) know how to cook, I didn't need the lesson. Though the result was interesting in a very Mythbusters way. I don't even applaud your doing it as much as your willingness to drink the result. You are braver than most.
Omg I just discovered your channel and I freaking love it!!!😍😍😍 also, you’re absolutely beautiful! Keep it up!💕💕
Ahck I love the colors of your kitchen!
I once worked at a company where we had a Nespresso machine with an automatic milk frother/steamer. A very common occurrence would be that people would fill up the milk container before making a cappuccino at the end of the day, and then leave with the milk just sitting in the container. Did they think that pouring the milk into the machine would magically make it not spoil without refrigeration?
Basically, I think people generally don’t have a lot of common sense when it comes to how milk works.
The real crime being drinking cappuccino in the afternoon.
Another thing to consider. It could be a cultural thing, we here in India make our traditional coffee by literally boiling milk and adding it to a strong brew. In most restaurants it's boiling for maybe an hour or 2. And we (most people I know) don't find scalded milk flavor to be a bad thing,the smell is quite pleasant to me. It's probably like the whole durian thing and many other such ingredients that many people find unpleasant but for the people who regularly consume it it's just nice.
I've never heard of this.
Now can't stop thinkin about tryin it.
The best way to treat coffee is to love it and give that loved coffee to someone you love.
I call it blended coffee. 3/4 cup of water with coarse ground coffee gargled for 3 minutes filtered and slowly heated. This magical lovely coffee is then given to the mrs who loves it.
I don't know the exact chemistry but I am fairly certain that dairy alternatives likely have something that can take those temps.
But that doesn't change the plumbing issue.
Thanks for the video we very much needed Morgan!
Just a shame that the title does not refer to milk brewing (?!) in any way, so that's harder to find for any lost soul who would think of googling it.
Still, RIP the machine and thanks again for quality content! Love it!
Thank you for telling the temperature in celsius as well!!!!
Thank you for translation
My sister did this with an iced tea brewer we had(she wanted hot chocolate), and didn't tell us 'till later. Ruined the brewer, no amount of cleaning got the sour milk smell out of it. Wound up having to toss it.
As an aside, I've used milk to brew cold brew(in the fridge, that worked well), and instant coffee. I could see it working well with french press and pour over as well, since you can control the temp of the milk used, and thing are easy to clean.
Can you please do a video this month comparing christmas coffees from different brands or chains???
Loving the idea of coffee being brewed at 195°C, dry steam, no liquid water left.
Not even sure if anything can be dissolved in steam, I guess only components of the coffee which can be turned gaseous would get extracted.
Dangit, now I want to research this.
Could be liquid water at that temp, as long as it was under very high pressure. Sounds like an industrial process. And I wouldn't want to be anywhere near if things went wrong.
🤔sounds like this needs to be a crossover with Zach Star...
I’ve never owned a coffeemaker. So much to learn 😃
I'm here to simp for Morgan. 💜
And learn something about coffee along the way ☕
Well, I liked this channel before, but now that I know there is a cat in the house I like it even more now.
Thank you for you temp translation!
for another video, can you go over common/popular coffee ground that you’d find in yours and rate them?
The intro slide, "hello", and general chipperness really takes me back to My Drunk Kitchen.
I work at a coffee shop, probably guess which one, but customers always ask for milk at 200F. The smell sucks as it gets that hot and trying to explain this to customers is a one-way ticket to being yelled at and told I don’t know how to do my job.
Give them what they want, if you can, if you can heat the milk up that high, because it's their taste buds.
It’s all about making the moment right, I assume?
When your favorite coffee addict turns into your favorite Australian pastry chef and debunker
The title and thumbnail combo is so good, I immediately knew I was in for a good time
I like your attitude on coffee
I remember my mother making coffee in a saucepan on the stovetop when I was a child. This was the early 70s though, so I'm pretty sure some form of instant coffee was being used. I did enjoy the taste, but hated the skin that formed on top if I didn't drink it fast enough.
Love the merch! And ouch, I cringed when you mentioned the milk in the coffeemachine
Well it might sound super random
But I just found ur channel and I am in love with the look of ur kitchen
Please do coffee drinks around the world and also Please try the Osma Cold Brew Machine!
I tried some unroasted green coffee vodka the other day. Pretty good. The new swag looks really cool.
I suppose one could cold brew in milk. You would have to keep it refrigerator temp, and the useful life after brewing would be short.
Hello, so I have a request! I would love for a professional to review the Kitchenaid grinder and espresso machine. I’m genuinely curious about your take on it! Their are plenty of holiday sales for it going on and I’m curious about it.
Great video!
I can think of one way this *might* work.
Mix an appropriate dose of *powdered milk* into the grounds in the basket.
This doesn't completely solve the problem of the milk proteins denaturing due to excessive temperature, but powdered milk has already been through some of this process. Further, scalding (or even slightly boiling) milk isn't a death sentence; I've made stovetop Cream of Wheat for decades, and I use milk (instructions say bring milk "just to a boil"). Works fine, tastes just right. Mmm, Cream of Wheat... This is also done in making stovetop hot cocoa, by the way -- another very popular milk-based drink (though hardly anyone makes it the way my mom and aunt used to when I was out sledding at near zero F, at age 8).
So I *think* mixing powdered milk into the grounds would work. At worst, it wouldn't fill the machine's tubes with heated and cooled milk that you'll never, ever get rid of; the basket and carafe can be removed, washed thoroughly, bleached if necessary, and returned to a sanitary and reasonably taste-free condition for future use. Further, the milk reconstituted in the basket will never get quite as hot as that used to make Cream of Wheat, so ought not to actually taste scorched. You'll still get some slowdown in brewing, because the milk has solids in it that will only partially pass the paper filter, giving more of an immersion rather than a percolation character; you'll also lose some of the milk's goodness, so you'll get a different drink than you would by adding concentrated milk (say, canned evaporated milk) to brewed coffee -- but I think it would work and produce something palatable for coffee-and-milk drinkers. Last, powdered milk is non-fat, so it won't taste like a whole milk or even 2% milk drink -- but it won't cost you a coffee machine to give it a try.
Me, I'll stick with my Hamilton Beach auto-drip machine (with start timer, so it's coffee when I stumble into the kitchen at 4:10 AM), running on water only, and my V60 pour-over setup (also with water in the pouring kettle).
You saved my coffee machine and my morning today!! Lol im that 1 person! Thank u lol 🙌🏾♥️
Thanks, Morgan! This makes me wonder what was goes on inside a superautomatic espresso machine that steams milk.
There’s separate circuits for Milk and Coffee, and usually the Milk tubes get purged after every drink.
Great video! By the way what microphone or audio do you use? Youre voice sounds crystal clear even though it looks like you are in a large room
This just raises the question of what if you use milk in a french press? What about pour over coffee? Is there a recommended way to brew coffee using milk? I don't want to try it but now I have to know
I will always love the way you slide into videos, I have never done this and now know I never will! Also Kitty Cat! 😁 *grabby hands*
Could you do a review of the chef wave espresso pod machine?
I'm glad I researched this
Great video, answering a question I had for several months!
What do you think about milk in a AeroPress, on a lower temperature? Or in stead of cow milk, a vegan replacement like oat milk?
I think it’s trial and error. I’ve been the most satisfied with uht (heat treated) kinds of milk. But I’ve experimented with a lot of different milk options.
Would this work with the flair?
It seems like the flair can be taken apart enough that cleaning the milk out of the coffee making tool wouldn't be a problem.
Where is the pourover thing you used in your ad segment from? Its incredibly cute
Hello Morgan, how do you deal with the Rocky's retention? for me its about 1.5 gramms.
If you’re going to do something weird like this, the better way to do this is to steam iced coffee or cold brew with milk. That way you don’t scald the milk.
Cool idea. What about cold brew concentrate with milk? That would be cool
A machine like that works by boiling the water and using the steam produced to push it through the piping, so it will always heat it up to boiling, no matter what the temperature is when it comes out.
I bet the piping inside is full of milk fat
The steam coming out is surely higher temp but the heat capacity of milk is high and it is moving in sort of vortex motions quickly and so it absorbs heat quickly, but some particles are probably scalded and this might even be good for flavor up to a point.
I love your inspector. Is he a milk expert also?
I think my favorite part of this is reading the title and listening to your intro, even having zero context or awareness of any fad, I absolutely knew this was about putting milk through your machine. I just knew. Because you really SHOULD NOT DO THAT goodness sakes!
Ha ha! I actually had no idea it was about milk because it never would have occurred to me that anyone would ever want to try that! But apparently it is a thing! The world is full of strange and horrifying things!
I really want to try this with my flair
. But like try heating milk to 150 f
And a Courser grind.
If it makes you feel better I'm Canadian. We use C for anything under boiling and F for cooking.
I also feel like if you can pick it up, we use imperial and if it's huge or far away we use metric lol
I don't even drink coffee (just pop) and yet I watched this just because I love Morgan's channel!
Stop drinking pop! It has health risks and coffee has health benefits! :-)
New to espresso. I got the capresso machine. I always have a lot of water left in the filter. Grounds even in the coffee. I do tamp it etc. 🤔
I think this would work with the cowboy coffee procedure. Immersion and continued heating would probably make stronger coffee and sweeter milk.
I mean this in the most positive way, You look like someone wealthy people hire to pass their kid's school entrance exam. It's probably the sharp eyes, the young vibe and lack of any distinct marks. Love the vids.
I put freshly brewed coffee back into my coffee machine's water tank to try and intensify the flavours and it didn't make the coffee taste bad but it did contribute to me having to throw it out after a year due to mineral buildup that not even CLR would clean.