Symptoms of a bad MAF sensor (how to troubleshoot)
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- Major hesitations, surging, bucking and low power with a P0102 Mass Air Flow Circuit Signal Low code in memory. Remember that a P0102 code does NOT always mean you have a bad MAF sensor.
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totally agreed... send all those dealers and experts to him that rip off people by charging days to "diagnose" or throwing in tons of parts
I have never been in the automotive business other than as an insurance adjuster but with a good teacher like Paul just learning is an exciting adventure.
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Dude....your videos look so professional. The scan tool on the screen as opposed to pointing the camera at it is such a nice touch. Nice work.
Danner how often out here in the field putting our back into our living , that we don't have access to pertinent information . You Paul have obviously changed the course of diagnostics
I guessed this one right from the get go..faulty MAF...My 99 Buick regal did the exact same thing to the T....I love watching your videos and trying to couch diagnose these problems, while your out in the cold rain! Keep em coming ScannerDanner!
Man, I just discovered your channel tonight. I'm a DIYer, but I'm serious about learning more than just throwing parts at my car. You're badass, brother! Thanks a million.
Thanks Erik and welcome! Look forward to hearing from you more.
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Then you may as well know my name. :-) it's Paul Danner
I get "Dan" all the time lol
ScannerDanner ha! Sorry about that, Paul!!!
Man I am a new subscriber to scanner danner channel. I am always amazed at all the time he takes to make a video for people. Some people may not believe me but I know he is giving us thousands of dollars worth of just keep making these videos if you can they never get boring. Such well spoken great details.
Was about to order a new MAF sensor for cadillac xts. Watched your video and felt guilty for pre-dignosing. MAF was good and clean so wanted to look at throttle plate. Took off the snorkel when I found a split in the middle of one of the folds. Ordered a new snorkel ( the correct part) DTC cleared instantly. Thanks for your help.
Just had a 2014 Mazda CX-5 with a p0172. Looked through everything and when I got to the MAF with the scope I noticed with KOEO signal voltage was .88 V. Service manual says it should have been around .72V. Check circuit ground and 5V REF everything was good. Replaced the brand new OEM MAF with one from autozone and bam, no longer rich! Thanks for the videos Paul
a guy who knows what hes doin and what hes talkin about.
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Love the videos You're so awesome ScannerDanner!!! So professional and knowledgeable!! I love the way you explain the diagnostics!! I had to watch a few for knowledge. 2004 Ford taurus wagon never had, but I've had it for 6 years $700 bucks well spent. Love working on my car. I've been working on them since I was 9 with my step dad. He was self employed. Taught me a everything! I'm 52 and widowed and doing my own work👍💪
I'm sorry about your husband 😔
But I'm super glad you are here with me. May God bless you in 2021
Thanks for the diagnostic tips. My Avenger is doing exactly the same jerking as that car, even stalling at idle. DTC shows too much air in engine, that narrowed it to the MAF sensor. Now I can test it for sure with a quick test drive. Thanks.
This just started happening to my 08 750li. Rpms started surging, car had no acceleration , running rich, can smell it . Got various codes for throttle pedal position malfunction and limp mode.. Thought it was the pedal, replaced and still getting the surge issue. This video just confirmed my symptoms as my rpms are doing the same as this car did in the video. Got maf sensor on the way. Thank you for this video.
New sensor $103 or can of MAF Cleaner $8
and 5 extra minutes of time. I cleaned mine and definitely had fantastic results.
That's awesome. Save Save Save 👍
I've learned more from watching him also i spent a lot of time in community college and learned more about this from watching his videos coinciding with my books and jobs that have been brought to me. Hopefully one day i can get premium 😄but the few free videos are priceless we need more geniuses like him and all of us abundant.... On cars for 17 years loving it
You are such a blessing for us DIY's. Thank you for sharing your talent/knowledge.
Thanks Neil!
Feel like a crazy fan or something but the more I watch of Paul and his diagnosing the more I learn and actually starts to sink in. Just watching a couple parameters on the tool can tell alot more than I would ever have thought. I'm really gratefull for this. I reccomend people subscribe to the channel and buy the book. Best investment I've made I really believe that. You know the first time I use these techniques and fix something I'm going to be very satisfied 👍👍
You'll be hard-pressed to get a Hyundai of that vintage to throw a code or fault a drivability issue with it in park. The automotive school I went to was supported by Hyundai, and we would spend hours unplugging stuff, trying to get them to set a CEL so we could play with scan tools, and they just wouldn't until you put 'em in drive and scooted around the parking lot a bit.
Another awesome video, Paul! Loved that hard bucking; been a while since I've seen that!
Brian Petterson for sure. Not bad to work on either
Thanks Danner . In all honesty Paul you single handedly changed my career , thank you my friend . Top Drawer
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This is one of your best videos imo. Very informative!
thanks for another vid. love this "teacher" whenever he say Hyundai in English with really close pronounce to what actual Korean native speakers say. Not "hyoun-die" but He always say like "hyeon-dae"
1st time I've seen you break down on a road test. GG 👍
I had a MAF fail on me like that while I was coming home from work on New Years Eve. The car was stuck on the Jamestown-Scotland ferry. I'd like to think I got the last workout of 2015 while I was pulling that Buick onto my brother's trailer with a come along... great video. I wish I had known then what I know now!
Next time just unplug the plug going to MAF and the car will run just fine.
Hello again Danner wonderfull video ,many times when maf sensors was built in a not very small componetns I had change in it comparator or shunt resistor on the same issue now opening MAF sensors we can see very small things and we must throw it in the gasket
There's also a fun MAF failure mode on GM's 3.4L 60° V6 that doesn't throw codes at all. It will fail in a way that produces a value within the allowed range, but it stays stuck at a wrong value. Maybe too much soot and shmoo from the EGR gets cooked onto the hot wire in the sensor? (That hose is in a bit of an odd location.) Anyhow it produces some really weird drivability issues. Basically it interacts with the programming of the automatic transmission and it acts like it's hitting a rev limiter before it reaches the RPM needed to upshift into higher gears, mostly with the 3rd and 4th gears. And for obvious reasons, it's annoying as hell when there's no idiot light but definitely acting up with something wrong. The good news with this is that the MAF is a hell of a lot cheaper than anything to do with the transmission itself. It's just how that feedback system works with the computer.
Thankyou thankyou thankyou. I've had my car in the shop 5 times this year for multiple things. This just started after the car was great for 2 months and I flipped thinking now what happened. My car is doing exactly this and now I know I can fix this myself within an hour. THANKYOU!!!!!!!!!
Awesome
One of his best videos ✌️
Hi,
Great video. Thanks.
My golf 1.4 tsi twincharged was running fine, no problems, just had water pump leak, so replaced water pump and also did the full service including spark plugs, engine oil, filters, dsg service, drive /serpentine belts and pulley changed. When I started the car, it was idling rough, no power at all, when press acceleration nothing happens instantly, then very slowly it speed up. Check the new spark plug, which has done 1 mile hardly, they were black. All 4 got black. Few codes came up too, initially it was p000A , when I changed camshaft sensor it disappeared and 2 other codes came on, p3008 and p0341. Then I put the old sensor back, then only p3008 remained. I replaced coolant temp sensor, thrust sensor, camshaft adjuster valve, put new spark plugs, fuel filter. And also double check each & every part for compatibility, that bought from main dealer. After installing new spark plugs, I started and it was same. After 10 minutes, I again checked all plugs, they all had slightly black carbon on them, all 4 were in same condition. No oil, just black carbon. I was thinking may be I left any vacuum pipe loose or not back in? But if it was vacuum leak then the spark plugs shouldn’t be getting black carbon on their tips. More fuel coming in as compare to air, that’s why I changed coolant sensor, I thought it was causing spark plug fouled.
Can faulty high pressure pump cause this condition, rough idling, misfiring (if look at exhaust), spark plug getting black with in few minutes of idling.
Also can these symptoms caused by over filling of dsg oil? I put back same amount of oil (4.8 litres)which was flushed out ?
Please help
I sure do miss the old days when Bob would come over with a dozen stubby Molsons. We'd sit on the porch for an hour looking at the darn thing, finally he'd look at me and say, shoot some carb cleaner into that Holly double pumper and throw on a new oil filter, and you should be good to go!!!! Great vid by they way, had to get out and beat my maf sensor as well, got me to where I wanted to be, now looking maybe to clean It!
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Blockage of the air flow will also give you the symptom of the MAF sensor being bad.
Had a car that had not been used in awhile and chipmunks had gotten in the engine bay and had brought some of the hood insulation into the airbox. Some of that insulation got into the MAF sensor. I blew out the sensor and cleaned it and the problem was resolved. Great vid.
Yes it would but not a 0 volt signal. Low of course, just not zero.
Thanks for the comment. It will help others.
Thanks for helping us with your great diag vids.
For sure and thanks for the comments!
Cars never leave you for dead on a SUNNY day, do they? Seems to be the way out here too! :D At least you didn't have to hoof it back to the shop! That would've made for a bad day ...
I just had a vehicle here not too long ago with the same o2 readings. I was doing mechanical work to the car (no codes) and was just curious, so I plugged in my Autel. Thought it was my scan tool misinterpreting the data. Glad I didn't have any drivability issues, since that sensor works BACKWARDS! I didn't know that then. That would've made for a looong day!
I ALWAYS learn something on each one of your vids! :)
Another good video scannerdanner. Hope you're well. I just finished a bicycle trip from Cleveland Ohio down to Cincinnati and back. Took the Ohio Erie Trail. Just mention that to you because I know you live somewhere in Pennsylvania in case you ever had any interest in riding it.
Dude I had to drive like that for about 2 miles with my 4 ways.45 minutes later and half the town mad at me, I got home.Changed plugs, wires, fuel filter , broke heater core connector (17 bucks).Come to find out its my mass air flow sensor.
Nice graphics to support the diagnostics.
Thanks again, you're videos are very helpful.
I really enjoyed the suspense and car stall was nice . I feel like just replacing mine just because I have 230000miles. 2000 Nissan i30 .
I bought a bluedriver scanner.
Great video Paul thanks
Another good video but one concern. I realize this is an old video and others may have commented on this already. Replacement of MAF may have not been needed. The intake hose was loose and MAF could have been dirty due to air bypassing the filter. Tapping the sensor could have knocked off a chunk of smoo allowing it to come back into proper range. Unable to repeat fault condition in driveway indicates it may have only been dirty. Once the loose hose was found, cleaning the MAF and testing to confirm condition would of have been a good course of action. If tech replaced MAF but failed to tighten the intake hose the problem will reoccur at some point . If tech replaces MAF and tightens hose problem is fixed and will not reoccur but at the expense of a new MAF sensor. For a shop they would most likely replace sensor versus taking time to clean and further troubleshoot. For home gamer that 150 bucks or so for a new unneeded MAF cuts deep into the beer budget.
If it was a dirty maf you'd think it will have a lower reading a cross the board but it will never fluctuate the way it did, The failure pattern seems to be electronics related
Ty for you video awesome teaching me better than when i went to school.
I watched this 20 minute video to see if you would do a voltmeter test and all you did was bang on the maf sensor. And now i’m just jealous of ur expensive scan tool
i have some other MAF videos that have a glitch where I show the meter tests. But the scan data showed voltage of the MAF right? It wasn't in grams per second if I remember. So basically the voltmeter would have shown the same thing.
Great video thanks. Keep up the good work 👍
My car is doing the same exact thing..been researching all day..this video just helped out big time. Thanks!
That's what it was..its running great now 👍
Was your car stalling out? My car is stalling out and has a check engine light on
Thanks Much,enjoyed the ride.
Basic but useful, absolutely. Thanks!
Good video brother. Learning some stuff from you
Great job scanner danner thanks for putting up the great videos
Thanks so much!
Excellent and very informative video. Cheers
Looks to me this was a NO power diagnostic rather than a low power. 😁 Wished I was closer to you I would have the perfect case study for you. No Start, no CAN, NATS tripped and intermittent driveability when it was running 3 years ago LOL. I was thinking of making a video on how I will go about fixing it but I'm just not a Camera person. 👍
hahaha dude i asked you cupple of weeks ago about a santa fe but i gues you were busy 😊 i was pretty confused about the output from the o2..btw it was a catcode i was dealing with. However i posted the question in your forum instead and 1 member wrote Titanium. So i posted an email to ngk and sure enough the descripton i gave matched a titaniumsensor.... and my confuson got away 😁
I'm sorry brother. I try to answer as many questions as possible. It's super difficult while I'm teaching at the college. 4.5 more weeks then I'll be more available.
I love neighborhoods where you where doing your test.. thanks for the video
just wait until a cop pulls you over,they're everywhere lol
Thanks for your informative vidios. I have a 2003 Ford Taurus , 3.0 vulcan V6. I have no check engine or warning lights that remain on the dash while driving . They all light up while being cranked. I had changed my air filter , so I took the hose off going from my filter to my throttle. I had to unplug my MAF sensor and a PCV hose. I reinstalled my breater tube , but forgot to plug my MAF sensor back up, since it was kind of hidden on the lower side of the breather tube. I just plugged it back up while it was running , expecting that it would change the way it ran. It didn't change it at all. I unplugged it again and plugged it up again with no change. I have never experienced this before. ( weird) There are no warning lights on the dash and the motor runs and cranks good. I have an autel scanner, and it doesn't show any recorded problems or codes either. I don't claim to be smart in this line of work, but this has me stumped. Again, love your vidio's
Great vid scannerdanner what signal and voltage should a good MAF should be reading?
great info buddy good job
If you get stranded you can also disconnect MAF sensor and drive on limp mode.
I have a 2000 ford e150 van and they can't seem to find what is wrong with it. the codes are P0171 and P0174. Change the MAF sensor on it 2 times. And then thing is. It runs good... but the service engine soon light is on. I keep trying to tell them to watch your youtube channel and they could learn something.. After watching this video of yours.. I am pretty sure i am not having a MAF sensor problem (maybe). Like your channel very much!!! Keep up the good work.
5:56 i need more of this simple yet clear theory
Thanks a lot man, I am learning a lot from You, I can"t wait the time that I buy an oscilloscope
Hey you've been good to answer my questions and I appreciate it. Just watched this, some similar symptoms , my daughter calls me and says her car has no power, doesn't accelerate, she thinks it's the transmission, it's a 2011 Kia Sorento with the 2.4L engine, standard engine, not GDI (I own 2 Kia Optimas and a Hyundai Santa Fe, all have the 2,4L engine but they are the GDI, so I'm pretty familiar with it) , I go to her house and read the codes, it's showing P0170 Fuel Trim Malfunction (Bank 1), most often reported fixes were replace O2 sensor or check wiring, replace MAF sensor or check wiring, leak in Evap system. I take it for a drive and use the bump shift and not the full automatic, seems to shift fine, little lag with a couple of gears, she was right, not much acceleration especially on hills. I'm thinking it's some kind of fuel or emissions problem. Didn't have any tools with me so i decided to take a chance and drive it home, I live 70 miles away, I got it up to 65-70 on freeway it was slow but it got there, here's my big question, I'm watching the fuel trims on my scanner, they don't change while I'm driving, Short Term Secondary Oxygen Sensor is 0.0, Long term Secondary O2 sensor is at -18.8, the Short and long term fuel trims stayed steady also, I know that's not normal, they change briefly when I stopped but once i was moving the hit a number and never changed. I haven't had time to check compression yet, too hot outside but thats first on my list. Any suggestions ? It had similar symptoms a couple of years ago but she didn't want to bother me at the time so they took it in, ended up replacing the catalytic converter, makes me wonder about that.
STFT at zero and LTFT fixed at -18 sounds like a forced open loop condition, where the O2 is being ignored. Do you have O2 codes? What is the O2 doing? What's signal voltage?
@@ScannerDanner I can only monitor the fuel trims on this. I would backprobe the connector but not sure what all the wires are. It's a NTK 5 wire sensor, I know blue is +voltage but unsure of others. I cleared the codes, ran it for a bit, read the codes and took a screenshot of what it's showing.
Long Term Secondary Oxygen Sensor Trim Bank 1 is 19.5% and thats the high and low.
Short Term Secondary Oxygen Sensor Trim Bank 1 is 0.0%
Long Term Fuel Trim Bank 1 is 0.0%, ranged from -3.9 - 0.8%
Short Term Fuel Trim Bank 1 is -2.3%, ranged from -100 - 8.6%
@@Splashfun2000 that's a wideband and operates on a 4 milliamp signal range that you won't be able to directly measure. You MUST have scan data to troubleshoot it. Global data should give you that signal equivalent in either voltage or amperage
@@ScannerDanner Okay had to get creative with a hookup but was able to measure to measure fuel pressure, its good. Figured out how to see the wideband data on my scanner, all the "live" wideband and downstream sensor data are in normal ranges. Only thing that seems funky is the "Long Term Fuel Trim", the minute I start to accelerate it goes negative, which if I understand it is the computer is trying to lean out fuel mixture which must mean its seeing a rich condition ? But all the pid's seem normal/okay, I would expect the check engine light to come on but its not. Double checked catalytic converter (it was replaced a couple of years ago because of no power, bad acceleration) it checks out also, new spark plugs, car idles fine, sounds smooth, revs nicely in park or neutral, the minute you drive it, no power. Wouldn't think this would have anything to do with emissions but it does have one problem, will not shift when in automatic mode but manual shifts fine.
The best test for MAF sensors yet for me: wiggle it or hit it with a wrench. If it fails - it's bad :)
p.s. Watched the whole video, glad we have same methods :)))
The North Koreans hacked this one at the South Korean factory Paul. Lol. You are always teaching something new, ie: reverse voltage O2 sensors, thanks.
Years ago I hot wired some resistors between the Ref V and the signal (to bypass a sensor which I can't just now recall), and that allowed the 120M grader operator to drive the rig back to the shop. In your excellent video, would it have been possible to achieve the same for the defective MAF sensor?
Ooohhh Man thank you so much for your information And thank you so much for your time, i undersnda is not easy,congratulation And thank you so much, god Bless you all time And always my friend.bye bye
My jeep was having issues stalling & the idol doing what that car did. I cleaned the throttle body, replaced the IACV, o2 sensor, & PCVs. They helped but didn't fix it. I watched this video & borrowed a buddies scan tool. Yup, my MAS was done for. 25 year old Heep is dubbed the Struggle Bus.
I have a BlueDriver, and it’s reading MAF using units lb/min.
Is that the same as looking at your graph that reads in volts?
In other words, will I see a big peak in lb/min as your saw when using volts if I should try to accelerate hard?
Great vid, thanks!
Hi there! I was having almost that same problem but not as rough like that... the maf sensor was the issue and still is since I have not been able to get the me maf sensor for my Hyundai Santa Fe 2005 2.7L, what I did was to disconnect the sensor and the runs ok but when I reduce almost to cero it looses power or the car is not getting enough gas...
good video I have a similar problem with a santa fe year 2002 the voltage is fixed at 0.01, I am waiting for your book in Spanish, greetings from Miami my friend
Thank you for sharing.
YOU ARE THE MAN
Love the 'That was cool' comment when she was playing up. We would all be thinking, this is anything but cool if it was our car lol
Lol guess I'm weird
I subbed when you were at etcgmeetup
Wide open throttle test was awesome as further evidence to use, thanks Paul! I thought the O2 sensors were A/F sensors by it's reaction!! I guess your son is back in school now?
He is but this was one of many I have sitting idle waiting to be edited. I think this was filmed in April?
The weather told me it was an older video!
Hey bro, I got a 98 dodge 1500 v8 4x4,an my truck jerks an back fires,feels like how ur explaining that car is doing,I changed throttle position sensor, idle position senser,speed sensor, cap,rotor,plugs,wires,clutch,clutch master,clutch slave an computer,do you think it could be my mass air flow sensor as well,truck only acts up wen its warmed up,but it sounds like what ur saying in that video,a y suggestions
My little 01 frontier XE is doing basically the same thing.. it's a 5dpeed. Was just driving along and it starts like jerking spuddering. My first thought was fuel pump and filter. Thing starts up and sits idling fine. I start out, and anytime I get around 2000rpm... It starts spuddering. Like it's running too rich I gotta figure this out.. ran codes at advance, popped up MAF SENSOR. So I gotta decide, I'm digging the info, thanks
Well, there is ALWAYS another way other thanthan wigling the connector and stressing the pins,when you have readings that jump around;
i'll tell you the way i do it: (this has saved countless hours and money!!!):
1- you *MUST* measure thickness of the terminal male blade connectors on the MAF itself (remove it,if you do not have another one ); i eyeball that with a caliper (i am always within .003" that way),if i don´t have another of the same,broken, maf around
2- cut 3 to 6 inches of solid copper wire,around 1mm2
3- grab a hammer and hammer down the tip of the copper wire to the thickness needed (most times around .025)
you will be amazed at how EASY it is to PERFECTLY turn the copper round wire into the BLADE you need
4- grind the blade to the width needed ; the one i have in my hand right now,i hammered and ground both ends ; to .060 and .100 and thickness .025
5-- use the blade to TEST EACH female receptacle in the harness connetor ( maf,or anything else);
The materials they use for the spring female connetors are sometimes not springy enough, cheap, (should be berillium copper,tinned) and after a lot of shops attacked them,they no longer make a positive contact; then i pull the plastic "finisher" on the plug and with a tool (i use a small screwdriver,specially groung for that) i re-bend the receptacles,test again with the copper blade (tight means VICTORY!!)and re-assemble; never fails.
No back probing?? I must have got on the wrong bus? haha The scanner showed good proof and nice explanation of the issue Paul.
lol
Hyundai used titania sensors on some stuff up into the early 2000's. beware: the connectors can be the same as the zirconia's
definitely a titania type sensor and great tip on watching out for someone using the wrong sensor. Saw that a few times back in the day on the older Jeeps.
It caught a lot of people on older Land-Rover and Rover 800 Sterlings also.
@scannerdanner I’ve got a 1988 Turbo Supra. Car hesitates badly under mild throttle or jerks under hard acceleration when in 4th or 5th gear. It’s good in 2nd or 3rd unless you go pass 4K rpm. Then it jerks really hard. It doesn’t have anything to put an obd scanner in to look at those readings. How would you diagnose it?
is that why my drivetrain malfunction fuel supply on my 09 750i
my scanner had the same negative long and short FT yours had.. have not checked my MAF yet
Excellent video and explanation as always, man. I'm not sure if I missed it (watched the whole video), but how do you know if a cars O2s are opposite like in this case (i.e. low voltage/rich, high voltage/lean)? Is that because of the make and model or a result of the problem happening in the car?
First, make sure it can respond to ratio changes. (snap throttle testing works well for this)
Second, a decel event will always cut injection pulse. So you can always verify the lean side of these O2 sensors during that condition. Hope that makes sense. Thanks!
I think I get it, thanks man!
With koeo the maf reports .17g/hr would this cause a problem on a 98 ford Explorer 4.0 OHV.
appreciate video scanner Danner.
So how did you fix??? new connector? I think i have same issue with a 2001 blazer runs horrible no power ..just put a brand new MAF and i get PO102 code... so i think its a bad connection or ground but am not sure how to fix...any suggestions ??? No fancy scan tools available...
I just got an Escape. At idle the load shows 29% with Bank 1 and 2 trims being around -10%. Ocassionally the vehicle will stall at idle. I'm leaning towards MAF sensor. The trims read normal under light load, haven't road tested it yet. The G/s are reading about 3.5 at idle so I thought that was normal but then again my $20 bidirectional tool im sure is only showing averages.
Well done Mr Danner! :thumbup:
I recently had a 2009 Toyota Corolla that didn't even run with the MAF unplugged.
Exactly! Everyone suggesting the unplug it test needs to listen up. The test is great! Just know it doesn't work on all cars. Thanks for helping me make my point!
@@ScannerDanner Isn't this because of the VE tables? Technically shouldn't the engine run fine without a MAF?
You gotta love those cars that when you test drive, you get what you need to get as far as data and diagnostic direction, then when you try to get it back to the shop, it wants to lay down and die in the middle of the road 😂😂😂
Awesome video as usual. Quick question, When the MAF voltage dropped out and throttle angle was 40-45%, why was the RPM PID acting wonky? I can only assume because the engine is bucking and the crankshaft sensor is reading erraticly?
That's what the engine was doing. When the engine would start to rev up, the ECM would see the abnormally low MAF reading and cut down the fuel delivery, causing the engine to bog down. Once the engine slows down it's not so lean so it starts to rev up again, and repeats.
yes he is good excellent mechanic!!!!!
How to troubleshoot maf sensor: smacks it. :D awesome video!
Are there resources to indicate normal range of sensor data?
Hilarious intro, bucking and snapping throttle pedal thanks for the laugh!
What does 4 volt rule mean for MAFs?
Analog MAF sensors should read at least 4 volts at maximum engine speeds at WOT
Excellent tip, thanks!
7:43 i feel that thing on 1,5k - 1,6k rpm on a vw 1.8t (injectors coming back to life) 👍
Thank you for korean translation.
Dude thanks so much
*LOL...Desolate country road, pouring rain, engine dies. Only Scanner Danner says "AWESOME"*
haha for sure!
You hear banjos....run!!!
That's such a funny comment Hubba Bubba. Really made me laugh out loud.
Before you buy a new maf sensor, check the air filter box for a mouse nest. Will choke the air flow. Typically cars that sit long periods especially in the winter.
That is a good tip but will NOT cause the MAF signal to drop or glitch to 0 volts
I just felt with this same problem on my ‘01 Audi A4q luckily I figured out that if I unplugged my MAF it would drive me back to my place as long as I stayed under 80km/h!!!!...
Raining there huh! Lol! Thanks great video!
Hi paul,Refering to a previous maf video where you had substituted values enabling the vehicle to run with a bad maf sensor.
On this vehicle scan data was showing the voltage dropping off to near 0v where the vehicle was not driveable..My question is why does it not put substituted values in as soon as it detects this enabling you to continue driving or is it just the case that certain vehicles this kia included do not use substituted values. Is this a difference between digital and analogue sensors.Thanks
Not all car have good back-up strategies for MAF sensor failures. Even if it does you'll still have symptoms until the PCM decides it will no longer use the MAF sensor signal and again, every car is different with this threshold. Analog or digital output has nothing to do with this strategy. Hope that makes sense.