EVERY STEP you need to Master your mixes! (And be sure they sound great!)
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Hello, I'm Nicholas Di Lorenzo, Studio Owner, Mixing and Mastering engineer at Panorama Studios.
I'm an Italian-Australian born and raised in Melbourne. I've been a creative professional for 10 years managing some pretty awesome projects for artists, labels and producers all around the globe.
What motivates and drives me?
My family,
Good food,
Great coffee.
You can find me on many platforms:
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Fantastic wow!! I think you may be the most detailed, best mastering teacher on youtube. Thanks SO much for sharing this knowledge
Wow, thank you! You're very welcome!
@@panorama_mastering why do you gain stage at -6 db true peak ?????
how does it make it possible to swap the plugin placement or delete without it affecting the sound level ??
Would you happen to have a similar setup for Logic Pro X ? Your explanations of the concepts and science behind working in the audio spectrum is top class..!! I have not come across anyone else who has explained this topic in such detail... KUDOS !!
Probably one of the best videos I’ve ever watched. While I’ve been mixing for years, I’m now having master records for clients. This video has helped so much!!!
Mate that's awesome ! Super humbling!
Absolutely loved this bro! I felt the vocals seemed separated from the instrumental, or the 'karaoke effect' as I like to call it, but you really glued it all together perfectly. Very helpful and informative. Keep up the good work bro!
Appreciate it! Thanks for listening! Much more to come!
Awesome!! Looking forward to your video!
Thank you mate! Drops in about another 4 and a half hours!
Amazing work, thankful for your content
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
Excellent video. Your stuff has been much appreciated as I started my journey in mastering this year.
Thanks man! Super happy to hear!
Love it, really specifically useful information throughout and using lots of free plugins, too. Keep rolling like this and you're gonna go places fr
Thanks, will do!
Thanks man! Amazing tips!
Extremely useful tutorial, both at the conceptual level and the practical implementation. Thank you!
You're very welcome!
Topp formula, thanks and cheers
really love it !!
Great video! Love your channel! You really know your stuff! Thank you for sharing some of your insights in mastering. It’s really informative and enlightening. Surprisingly you and I have very similar approaches so I’m really interested to see more of your channel. Just subscribed!
Amazing; thanks for watching and subbing! Excited to share more with you as time goes on!
it help a lot man! thank you
Glad it helped!
This is a really great, fundamental mastering flow. Can you clarify why you perform clipping after Dynamics and Tone, instead of before Dynamics? I assumed that by doing clipping first, you are providing a more even set of dynamics to the compressor.
That was straight up awesome, and I’m already a pro, really cool content man
Thanks man; that's super humbling; thanks for watching!
Thanks a lot for yours videos, i've learned a lot ;) cheers
Glad you like them! My pleasure!
I'll be watching this video a lot! Thank you so much ;)
No worries, if you need clarification on anything; feel free to reach out!
Great Video! this was very informative! In the details!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
I subscribed just because you reply to everyone as you can. Great content. 👍
Thanks for the sub! I definitely try to respond to every comment; I think if the channel continues to grow at this rate; I'll create a chat room (Discord or something) so that way I can channel more niche/indepth communications with the audience on the go; (Commenting and responding inside CZcams can be a bit clunky at times)
U save my music life brother
StandarClip rules!!!
Yeah; super easy and intuitive to dial in!
@@panorama_mastering and cheap, to my ears the best clipper plugin in the market
Thank you!
You're welcome!
thank you For this video
My pleasure!
Great video! Would love to see when and how you add saturation into your mastering process.
Definitely! Will add that to the concept list :)
Great straight forward video, I was expecting some exciters and widening plugins on the master bus but I guess it didn't need it, would you be able to do a vid on how to master a bad mix? Thank you
Awesome video man, mastering can be so daunting after doing the whole production and mix, But I think I was just overthinking it and trying to add to many steps when the mix was already 98% there. Cheers
Glad you enjoyed it!
Interesting topic!
Glad you think so!
@@panorama_mastering I'm trying to learn mixing and mastering lately and it's such a fun journey. Your views on the topic ,and esp. the workflow you went through, is super helpful. So much to learn, so little time :) thanks for sharing!
In Kotelnikov i use the internal sc of the compressor or better said the "Low Freq Relax" all the time. Especially in this kind of scenario.
I usually land with a xover point of around 150-200 hz and this makes it ultra clean on the summ without pumping with the low end. Nice video . Enjoyed
Yeap; the HP-SC filter on kotelnikov is great; and also super flexible in terms of filter slope and variable FREQ selection!
p.s Thanks for watching ;)
Your videos are phenomenal! 👏🏻 I’m wondering if the mix is less than -6db true peak (say -8db) would you increase as opposed to attenuate the gain?
Your content is #justplainincredible
Really appreciate the time and effort you put into helping "us"
And yea, I smashed that like button right when you said it
And I don't regret it at all [having finished watching this tutorial]
#blessings
Goldmine!
Thanks for watching mate!
Absolutely incredible video and will definitely help me make huge strides! I do have a dumb question since I've heard many people argument both for and against this: when would you use a linear phase EQ in mastering? I know that LP can cause pre-ringing, but I can't exactly hear that on anything other than a sine wave at this point in my learning journey. What are your thoughts?
To be honest; I rarely use linear phase when mastering; a lot of the pre-ringing you'll be able to hear will be on LF content;
The only specific use case I can think of for using linear phase consistently in mastering is if I'm looking to cut low frequencies from the side signal; as keeping that signal in phase is important for the mono-translation of the low-end;
great video, thanks for sharing ! on my side the thing i do at the end is to compare AT THE SAME VOLUME the track of client and the master so can you realize sometimes you lost energy, modified tone, brought too much distortion or other plenty things from the original (or not ) it prevents me from making errors, we never know ;-)
Great tip! Definitely advise this too!
Really helpful video man, the PT session should be in the resolution of the mix file for what i understand (24-48), but can it be in 32 bits for example, would it be a benefit if i do so?
Cool!
Hornet has some plugins for gain-stage that could help, too.
Awesome; I'll definitely have to check it out!
Great tutorial, thank you so much! Kazrog released a new free clipper, probably a great addition to all of us wanting to add a high quality tool to our arsenal!
One question. By gain staging on true peak -6db, I noticed at times the processing increased the perceived loudness. Whilst it is the point from a "maximizing loudness" perspective, won't the increased perceived loudness skew our ears to prefer the louder/processed signal? Wouldn't it be good to also test on the same perceived loudness to make some critical decisions for eq, compression, etc?
No worries;
You're correct; namely I keep peak levels consistent so peak detectors on dynamics processors in a chain can continue to operate with similar chain signals; the level matching/perceived loudness; I'll do by level matching the output of the master to the original mix;
@@panorama_mastering Oh great great! Good to know! Thanks for taking the time to reply! :D
It’s interesting. You made a comment about the guitars pulling you in. I actually noted the opposite, they seemed too pushed compared with everything else. Liked the depth of the vocal and wanted more. Wondering if pulling more from the mid low signal can give more vocal and low end rhythm.
Loving the approach!
That's the beauty of mastering, sound and music; as soon as we move into subjective territory all our ears hear things differently; and it's what makes for the colours; shades and diversity in our music production craft!
@@panorama_mastering and what’s interesting is that we kinda heard the same things anyway. Ultimately you made it warmer. Your moves with the snare and the top in tamed what I was hearing in the guitars and it also gave everything more density. So I could hear more depth in the snare and vocal. That’s fun ha 🙌🏾
tinder logo in the preview is still the best part of this video
Ouch... shots fired!
genius gain staging starter point so many people dont think about that at all
Free Clip from Venn Audio is a free alternative to Standard Clip. TDR Nova is also a great free plugin for mastering.
Yeap! I actually DLed that before shooting this but it wasn’t loading into my plugin list on PT :(
Thanks for the resourceful video! Is it legit to use the Pro-L2 instead of a clipper to trim a bit before the real final limiter ? ;)
Well; interestingly enough; you might want to explore this video on how fabfilter pro-l2 has a clipper stage in it's actual process based on the attack time; czcams.com/video/K6gIUO6q_3E/video.html
18:04 why gain staging with True Peak instead of just Peak value? Awesome video!
Thanks man;
Plugins that have oversampling will read closer to the true peak than the original sample peak
Is there a reason why you create a separate mix for the master ? sorry I may have missed it
The most important thing for an engineer (record/mixing/mastering) is acoustic treatment and good quality gear. Why no one talk about it lol.
You are correct; it's a very important thing for an engineer;
For myself, I'm fortunate to work in a space which is purpose built; even though I'm well versed in acoustics I don't engage in acoustics/discussions in day-to-day operations;
That's why a lot of my videos are centred around my process in sessions that I am actually doing;
Out of curiosity though what would you or others be interested in hearing from a Mastering Engineer on the topic of accoustics?
Warmly,
N.
@@panorama_mastering how useful are good headphones vs. full speakers?
Seems like I can get good headphones for
Grade A tutorials SIr, thank you!
Hi, liked this course very much ! Focusing on simple tools, notes..etc So good !
I was wondering : can true peak really be our reference ? I understood that it makes easier to calibrate tools, but A/B listening seems wrong (for me !).. The dynamic tools brings a lot of loudness and I was thinking that A/B should be done on apparent loudness rather than on same true peak's levels.. I might be completely off, but isn't it what LUFS is designed for ?
peak level; is more-so just for line-level/signal flow sakes; not necesserily for A/Bing, LUFS and RMS are both more accurate for that!;
@@panorama_mastering thanks !
Great Stuff. A video on more RX details would be great. What do you do when a client sends multiple files of a mix, and want them to be all exact lengths in Protools?
Hey Joey! Thanks for watching;
I usually have them sequenced one after the next in the read track; then AFTER I print them (It will be one continuous region now); click to highlight the read-regions; then use the selection tool to select that part of the print/capture channels region and cut the region to that exact length; rinse and repeat for following alternatives;
THEN;
Drop them into a playlist where I can edit them all together stacked ontop of one another;
@@panorama_mastering Awesome! Keep up the great work. Looking forward to your future videos.
My pleasure! Will do!
If you wanted to use different compressor setting on different sections of the track with the setup you outline here, how would you go about that and maintain the gain staging?
Automate the parameters from one section to the next; including the gain;
Great video! Ashame you can't "Lyrics Replace" like you can sample replace with drums though! Lol
Really helpful.
Q: Why not put the clipper before the compressor?
Clippers tend to introduces harmonic distortion; introducing those harmonics early on in the process as low-level information makes way for the possibility of them to be amplified with any further processing; I like leaving it at the end of the process for a bit more control and a cleaner sound;
@@panorama_mastering wow, I learned something today, thank you!
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For some reason, is it me? I listen to this a lot. Hi Hat is sounding first left side, then right side. Sometimes Overheads are inverted.
It could be a bit lower. I find it quite crispy and “disclocated from the mix” (as I usually say). Like it’s own world.
There is some digital distortion in the pre-bridge part that’s kinda rough on the ears.
Maybe a bit more 60 Hz.
I feel like the mix doesn’t really change through macrodynamics. Even when the last hit comes back, it doesn’t hit. I’ll explain myself below.
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Gtr, Drum & Bass groove hard, these draw me in.
The vocal is really consistent, I love that.
The tone of the main elements is great.
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I’m having this struggle at the moment with the way I listen, just putting more instruments is not the same as actually lifting the energy just because. We have macrodynamics, a way we go into section from another section. How Verse 1 compares to Verse 2 & so on. Microdynamics is another balance we should be also putting attention too, even though mix should be safe by now. Ideally
Oh you precisely talked about macro & micro after writing this (I paused the video to copy my text before listening ha).
I found you on TkTk, I really like how precise you are. I couldn’t agree more with a lot of the things you say & show. Thanks for taking the time to share & make in depth videos as well. Internet is a lonely place. :)
My only actual complain with your process is why -.2? All Streaming requires -1 dB TB, codecs need that space to avoid distortion. .8 dB is not going to turn a song into a hit & even though everyone listens on headphones an only 5% of us care about that distortion, why? It's a very honest question.
Thanks for dropping by; lots to unpack in that comment; but appreciate you taking the time; I'll take one bite at a time here;
The -0.2 is because I will always audition with a codec before committing the master and make changes if audible distortion is being introduced; and often; unless you've got raving ISP's rarely is it causing audible distortions; never had the streaming platforms punish me or my clients for it; as an ADM certified engineer I also do print out in parallel a -1.0dBTP version if my clients wish to submit their masters for ADM(Apple digital masters); that's really the only platform that has documented a standard which the engineers need to ADHERE TO; Spotify's -2dBTP is simply a "suggestion".
If you did a heavy rock/metal mastering course, I would be all over that. Love this channel!
Awesome explanation. Why do you set your ceiling to -0.2 instead of -1.0 TP? Do you not care about intersample peaks when encoding to small compressed files etc? This still confuses me 🤷🏾♂️
Hey man :)
It's simple; whether you're at 0.2 0.3 -1.0dbTP what matters is that you audition the material through a codec; that's what matters; is what actually happens to that specific master when it goes through a 96kbps aac codec;
Probably need to do a whole video on this topic alone;
For me maybe EQ down a bit 400 -600hz that range seems to to create too much hollow sound.. As if it's coming from a Behringer mixer hollow.. But just me🤪🥂
6:46 bypross
the bass in the verse needs some more depth. and for me drums panning of toms individually if able and making sure the cymbals have some width that is equal roughly to the same stereo fields as the toms give or take by 15 % of the panning so for example if the left side tom was panned out 40 % left the the left cymbal slightly further panning by an amount all by taste more than a specific variable depends on the song im picky as hell about where drums set in a mix and i like to have my cymbals and toms to be very wide and giving the kick and snare more center pan space same for the hi hat and ride i go in vs the other cymbals and toms like only 15% to 25 or 30% panning and try and set it up to where they all have there only pocket in a stereo field as if you were behind the drums but slightly exaggerated and then i throw reverb and blend the dry and the fx channel in and eq the reverb as well to cut out the low end kick range some and roll off highs
also forgot to note something i do too on my snare eq is boost 820 hz by anything from 3 6 up to about 9 or so db boost alex van halen trick apparently and i like the results depending on the snare
Is it better to use another converter to bring to 44.1k 16 bit or just use pro tools converter?
Good question; the SRC (Sample rate converter) standard in protools is perfectly fine;
Depending on the assets needed to deliver for a project; (E.g I'm starting at 96k native) for a client's session I will use iZotope Audio Editor's SRC not for anything other than I can batch there on larger projects when exporting multiple formats;
When you are making EQ and compression changes, is ProTools tracking those changes as automation? Does anyone know how to achieve this same workflow in Logic? Thanks!
Could you give me a time marker to reference for this?
@@panorama_mastering Sure thing - at 15:37 and 20:40, a 'marquee' selection is made, and changes to compression and EQ are dialed in, respectively. My assumption is that upon playback, those changes are locked into the selected range. In my experience in Logic, this would entail creating automation lanes and creating fiddly start and end points of the individual automation parameters.
OH ! thankyou for that clarification; NO! that is not dialing in any automation what-so-ever; I'm just auditioning the loudest most intense parts of the tracks to help me set my compression;
copy paste of my notes while listening to the mix without looking your notes.
first guitars get a lil harshy sometimes
vocals need presence on the 3.5-5k area
to harsh some highs
kick needs more punch
mids of the guiitars arent well balanced
i didnt understand the 2 questions of whats pushing me away and whats pulling me in
but im glad i feel like im in the ballpark of feeling it
great experiment to test my ears tbh
Awesome; good work!
Vocal is sitting too low in the speakers and overpowers the bass guitar. The only thing that bugs me. Otherwise, great mix
What’s pulling me away? The singer😂 just a joke. Great video, thanks!
😂 step one, get a notch filter. Optionally, you could just dl ripx
why not use normalisation to -6db ?
Force of habit checking where that peak level is as I'm always checking for crest factor as well... for more advanced mastering techniques/managing overall loudness;
Is is me or does song have a car horn in it ?
Good track though!
Bruh who going on tinder for masters 😂😂😂
lol
Try to keep your arms a bit more still
My man...nice video... But you talk too much... Get to the point.. 🥱🥹
Yeap! I feel you; I've refined my style for presenting in most recent videos;