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Hello, I'm Nicholas Di Lorenzo, Studio Owner, Mixing and Mastering engineer at Panorama Studios.
I'm an Italian-Australian born and raised in Melbourne. I've been a creative professional for 10 years managing some pretty awesome projects for artists, labels and producers all around the globe.
What motivates and drives me?
My family,
Good food,
Great coffee.
You can find me on many platforms:
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CZcams is the best and worse thing that has happened to the engineering community.
I know; so much good to come out of it; and so much... questionable bits;
OMG YES 😂
That’s why I don’t do “pro tips” on CZcams. Too much random informations and whenever you suggest something, there’s always another case when that tip doesn’t work at all.
hoping someday a video blows up that shows how insane the phase aberration is on basically any 30 hz lowcut, i feel like it's advice that is tossed around so much that it actually finds its way into so many actual masters when as far as i can tell like 99% of the time it's dealing damage to the music and not solving any problems...
Yes! I've got something in the "idea" box for this ;)
I feel you, so much of audio CZcams breaks my brain... so much bad info out there... and often from big channels... being a good CZcamsr and being a good audio engineer are different skills folks.
Definitely; but also share some similar skills such as communications; that's important as an audio engineer too; being able to articulate creative concepts to team members and clients;
@@panorama_mastering For sure communication is super important.
I love this! You said some of the same things I do when I listen to these same videos you reviewed! Plus you had some great insights that I had not thought about before. Thank you!
You're welcome!
This thing with mastering, unlike mixing, is that you see all sorts of videos basically talking about the same thing: subtractive eq, colour eq, compression, saturation, clipping nowadays and limiting, and it's all fine and all, even working with plugins like gullfoss eq and soothe to clean up some harshness that can result from compression, which is fair. What I don't see people talking about, certainly not for free on youtube, are other techniques such as using the Fletcher Munson curve during mastering, mostly because mixes come to mastering a lot darker and bass heavy or transient heavy than they should, so a reverse Fletcher Munson curve usually solves that with a tool like SlickEq M. Crest factor, again, most people don't understand it at all, 99% of amateur mixes have very poor balances, but even the better ones still have too much kick transients compared to the bass information, and again, almost nobody talks about this in mastering tutorials. That alone will eat most headroom and oblige the ME to mess with the mix tonally. I'm not hearing anything about psychoacoustics, predominantly on how to bring a certain frequency range into focus, nothing about band selective compression (not with multiband comps, but tools like DS1 Mk3) used specifically to avoid distortion down the chain, not too much about Vari-mu comps and what that adds to the sound, where and when to use it. So I guess what I'm saying here is that MEs are still trying to keep to themselves and only give out crumbles for free on youtube, which is why a lot of mixers started having this idea that mastering is basically glorified limiting, and we all know that's not the case. This is my 2 cents on the matter...
We can't give away all of our secrets for free now can we?
As a newbie in the field, I just added everything you have mentioned to my "To learn" folder. Thanks. Is there more?
@@RealHomeRecording Sure, I'm not saying that this should be the case, BUT 99% of mixers think that mastering is, again, glorified limiting, and it's all because of these tutorials. If they don't understand that there's a very different approach to mastering vs mixing, and that it does involve other stuff than just eq, compression and saturation, maybe mastering engineers will have more clients, music will start sounding better on streaming platforms and we'd all know our job description.
Now make same video but with mixing tutorials. Pure gold content, instalike + subscription.
Thanks mate! Will do !
your content and thumbnail game keeps getting stronger and stronger mate! loved this video. keep it up!
Thanks for watching mate! Muchly appreciated!
There is no secret , Best Mix = Best Master
I like cooking analogies a lot in those tutorials
Finally someone really knows what he's talking about. Subscribed.
I found this video incredibly entertaining. Thanks!
My pleasure; thanks for watching!
Amazing video mate! Very entertaining and filled with facts.
Thanks mate!!
Fun video! I appreciate the good mix of criticism and confirmation
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks mate!
Great video - just stumbled accross this one. As much fun as a "tip" or "trick" is, there is no substitute for a great mix combined with an awesome listening environment and monitoring system, with more experienced ears for mastering.
Spot on!
I gonna say something controversial but I’ve been training myself probably over a decade about this:
LEARN TO MIX TO A POINT THAT YOU INCORPORATE MASTERING IN THE CHAIN.
I explain: the most controlled mix the less mastering manipulation (instead of over Eq/compress/saturate the less mastering process) this take a lot of time practice but once you have it you are a MASTER of MASTERS in the box
Rest your ears every 45 minutes top.
I don’t disagree!
i am a mastering engineer since 15 years , done over 500+ vinyl LPs - working for many labels ! thank you so much for that video .. cant hear this -16 lufs , -6db shit anymore . this is the first video i can totally sign and it is incredibly scary how much misinformation and marketing bullshit is out there in the internet .. we should do our job , make music better , rely on our experince and never stop learning - this is mastering ! learning the whole life about making more right decisions. but this enlightment doesnt sell well - so they need to give 20second tips and selling solutions to their crowd. truth is - its a lifetime of learning and trial and error - a lifetime of building an hybrid chain that fits most of the times and always modulate and beeing open to leave some beliefs or opinions for the gain of getting a better engineer. no dogmatics but a lot knowledge - be humble and wise . thanks so much for your video !
Thanks for watching and couldn't agree more!
I’m not a big streaky fan personally, but I think the point he was trying to get across is if you’re trying to boost bass and high end to make the master “sound better” you’re essentially just cutting the mids. His videos ARE for beginners.
16:12 why would you prefer a mix with the limiter on it and do not care about headroom? Clip gain the mix before hitting the first plug-in in your mastering session is a option but how do you get back the dynamic of the track if it was limited harder?
Please give us more of those videos, besides your normal amazing ones!!
I felt a bit icky after doing this video. Many people pointed out it wasn’t a healthy pathway to a constructive discussion. In fact I’d be more open to having each one on for a chat at some point.
@@panorama_mastering It was a great deal of help to me to be able to filter good advice from a fishy one.
@@panorama_mastering Actually it helped me big time to filter good advice from nonsense..
More More More More of these! Nah but in reality, this was Golden!
In Time!
This is good YouTubing lol. Some good insights from yourself.
I did a video call "The Only Mixing Tips You'll Ever Need" - What These Lists Get Wrong a couple of years ago because I find those absolutist tips like "don't use a compressor", "never add more than 2db of EQ on 1 frequency" frustrating. Only a Sith deals in absolutes. There are infinite situations you could find yourself in and you have to use your ears each time.
Having said that, I don't think every tutorial on CZcams has to be perfect. I realised later on that stuff I learnt in college was wrong and corrected myself later on in my career. I was still able to advance though because 90% of what was taught was useful. It's fair to point out though.
Definitely; that's the beauty of following a passion for your craft; the openness to be WRONG, and learn;
Hell CZcams also normalizes roughly to -14 I believe but do any YT-to-mp3 rip you'll see that that ain't the level many edm producers go for
(Also, remember that many edm producers still go for loud-loud and so people say that by removing that 0-20Hz and 19k-20k range, you get more room to push the limiter and compressor (cause compressors and a lot of bass don'ttend to like each other in heavy uses). Everything about edm master tutorials is about loud)
I basically agree … but not only in this video you point out that a low cut can introduce phase issues. But if i had to cut out something in the very low part of a mix (without the chance to correct it in the mix) i would always use linear phase mode. I think that‘s what he was trying to say with „its safer to use linear“. But that also counts for cutting any sub frequencies on individual tracks with base heavy elements. The problem of pre-ringing that comes with linear phase mode was never a problem for me in a full mix so far.
Preach!
Thanks mate!
The trouble with "a certain sound" is: at some point it will sound hopelessly outdated because of the "overkill phenomenon".
"the lower the frequencies are the more headroom they take in your track"
why no? the fletcher munson curve says that humans have a hard time listening to extreme lowend and highend. that is where we need to push the volume most to get it audible at all. that is literally the reason why it's so tricky to get the lowend levels right. overdoing it slightly and you already end up without any headroom. a bit too less and the track is already way too soft. and the lowest frequency off all, 0hz, also called dc offset, is even so bad, that if it has any value at all except 0, it lowers the headroom without even producing sound at all. doesn't mean you should always lowcut as steeply as possible whenever you can, because of the reasons you mentioned, but you have to give this man credit, because it's not all wrong.
btw it seems like the video cuts off before it ends. or idk if that's on purpose but you were just in the middle of talking about white sea studio's tip when it was suddenly over. could it be that you accidently didn't upload the full thing?
I get what you're saying here and understand anecdote; but it's important when presenting information for people to follow that the language is accurate and people learning can't missinterpret.
I'm sticking to the facts; low frequencies don't take up "more" headroom; it's an inaccurate description;
A low frequency 25hz signal at -6dBTP and a 500hz signal at -6dBTP are both taking up the exact same amount of headroom;
And even then; introducing aggressive filters like this at the cross-over points can INCREASE the peak signal thus reducing the relative headroom;
If he had said what you said; I wouldnt've pounced on it;
@@panorama_mastering what you said about peaks is actually what should be said more often. most people don't know that a filter can actually enhance peak levels, even though it takes frequencies away in the process, even if you don't dial in resonance, q, gain or slope. that is exactly why the steep highpass can do damage if it is not applied with purpose
Thanks for pointing out some the nonsense out there that is being push on people.
And thanks for saying "you are not getting rid of, you are attenuating". I always say to myself when hearing people say cutting/cut the frequencies out, when in fact they are just reducing/attenuating that frequency band/range, not cutting it out of the signal all together. These people do my head in because they act like they know everything but display that they really don't know much at all.
Well I would say that the word cut is along the lines with a haircut. You don't typically remove the entire piece of hair you are just trimming it down. So the language works.
Attenuate is the better technical word to use I do agree with you there.
This video reminds me of when I found out the tooth fairy isn’t real
I wish I would've found your channel much earlier in my production career, would've saved me a lot of time unlearning questionable mixing/mastering "rules". Took me three years to realize that the whole "You have to master to -14 LUFS to meet the standards of streaming platforms!" and "You have to leave -6db headroom!" is bollocks, lol. I eventually figured it out on my own and with a lot of research but your channel definitely would've saved me earlier haha.
Most of them try to make mastering easy for kids to understand, when in fact it's hella technical field, that unfortunately it's surounded by a lot of mysticism. These tips are understandable when it comes to mixing which I think it leaves way more space for art and craft.
You're right; it's very nuanced!
Many of these tips are just a product of the lowest common denominators. For instance, I started using a limiter on every mix track, I would consider it a valid tip, cause it is going to save your ears and speakers/headphones from random milliseconds transients that musically do nothing but they just punch your eardrums. That is obviously going to destroy the sound if you don't know what you are doing.
There are also a lot of tips that come from the analog world that don't make sense in the digital one.
Good point!
You send over an EDM master at -14 LUFS you’ll never get hired again. Even the rough mixes are at -6 LUFS now 😂😂😂😂
I know... Which planet do people live on thinking that -14 LUFS is a standard for mastering in the real world?
@@panorama_mastering exactly 💯
@@panorama_mastering I think that point is for people that upload only on streaming platforms, which is how 99% of them start publishing music.
If you are already in the industry, you hopefully have a pro who masters the track for the different media, and you don't look for tutorials.
For instance, Google reduced the volume of this video -2.1dB, cause you didn't care to aim at CZcams's loudness standard. If this was music and you introduced some distortions to add 2 dB, that distortion was worthless, and the sound was ruined for nothing. The idea is to take control of the normalization so you don't have to trust Google's algorithm.
Out of curiosity I just checked Katy Perry and Dua Lipa channels. The new tracks have the volume increased by 6/7dB, which means they dind't even uploaded the squeezed sousage master but a quite version and they trusted Google with the normalization. Spotify has similar algorithm. So, now the game is about tricking the normalizing.
BTW I have no professional audio experience, I'm an engineer in other fields, I'm just speculating.
@@MarkDLion fair enough but even in that case still a horrible idea. Lots of people have loudness normalization off (including myself) so when a -14 song plays next to any other song, it is annoyingly low. Professional EDM masters are some of the loudest masters right now, so you do an any master at -14, it will sound like a whisper against professional tracks. -14 is one of the worst myths amateurs are pushing and NONE of the professional mastering engineers are doing -14. Even acoustic folk songs are louder than -14.
Love your channel!!!! Woooo
👍🙏
Bet there’s going to be a mastering engineer reacting to a mastering engineer reacting video at some point and I’ll be front row watching it 🍿
Me too; if you go through the comments on some of my earlier videos; I've been called out on bad advice in the past; hell even to the point where in video's I've had to swallow my ego and say; guys; this was HELLA WRONG; let's address it!
@@panorama_mastering Nothing but straight up knowledge from your hand as far as I’m concerned!
"I feel like I'm loading up a Playstation with that intro."
Me too. 😅😅
It's honestly a cool intro though!
This is the first time I’ve come across this channel. Not even a minute into the video and it’s earned my subscription. Good stuff already!
"mastering tips that nobody yet told you about" Smear butter all over your speakers to get a much more buttery sound.
two or three db is correct for better flavor ? 😅
Salted caramel please.
@@panorama_mastering hmm like rum with cognac and salted caramel for better high ends :D
Better get boosting ;)
21:14 why people are so scared about using a compressor on mastering? If you are scared that means you really have no idea about mastering. Compressor is not the problem but your skills. It depends on what you are aiming for when using it.
THANK YOU for talking about the "mastered for spotify" BS!
Hahahahah this was awesome
Haha awesome; glad to hear you enjoyed it!
If a mastering engineer completely cut everything under 30Hz in any of my D+B tracks I would question his sanity lol.
.... how to go insane!
🤣 Your reaction to Streaky!!!! 🤪
Honest reaction; stating the facts!
8:20
That guy could have a point actually, Ukrainian guy here talks about phase deviations from equalisation, seems quite reasonable(to me) as he demonstrates with diagnostic software. It's is interesting to hear your thoughts on this, he speaks in russian, maybe yt subtitles would help. Ultimately he concludes that cutting filters and the softer ones produce less deviations, also talks about when those should be considered
czcams.com/video/caVvvCI8ZKU/video.html
I know who you're talking about before clicking on that, he's another channel like this one I enjoy. challenges my brain into thinking.
Streaky is a funny character. I have my go to channels that I trust in, but there's a shit ton of bad channels out there spreading false info or just vagueness.
It's also important and what I'm learning after posting this video; is that CONTEXT matters; not every piece of content is intended to be a technical paper with new findings for advanced practitioners; sometimes the content is meant to just introduce concepts to a new audience;
Possibly relevant for future video: I like Streaky but I just watched a short of him wiring up a Dutch audio switcher. He said "cables make a huge difference" and now I can't trust a word from him. Copper is copper, an electron is an electron no? Assuming your cables aren't noisy shit.
Fancy cables are audiophile snake oil not the domain of the technical and scientific (and ok often subjective) craft of mastering. Sounds like time for a null test. Way to throw away the authority of your word Streaky...
You really want me to jump into the lions den with this one... audiophile cables!
Yeah, I like Streaky too but I was also quite suprised about his recomendations on cables.
check this for debunking high price cables czcams.com/video/ZyWt3kANA3Q/video.html
lol naa you trippin, cables make a HUGE difference
@@SXTWLVE I am surprised to learn this study may agree with you though it is only one study and it doesn't stipulate whether being able to discern the difference is the same as designating one or the other superior. boson.physics.sc.edu/~kunchur/papers/Audibility-of-cable-pathways--Kunchur.pdf
That's what I used to believe as well and I think it's the case most of the time, but.... I won a cable set by Sommer Cables and replaced my Fender guitar cable and it sounds better when A/B testing. I think there is more shielding, so less signal loss. Thats a difference in cables though.
"…what do they charge? $2.50 per click and pop? What is it, is it like a fish and chip shop?"🤣🤣🤣 dying
Some of this advice is just rubbish, especially the one about cutting the lows.
My favourite producer/mixer/masterer is Jan Loamfield. If you look in SPAN, his tracks go down to to 1hz (yes one), obviously there's rolloff. And his tracks go up to 22.5k. We still feel these frequencies and they have impacts on other frequencies/phase, etc like you said, even if they are out of human range!
Isn't the video ending somehow strange or am I the only one?
Hey ! Good pick up! Just realised this wasn't my final edit for the video!! I uploaded the wrong one! **Slaps head**
@@panorama_mastering Can I do your video-edit-master? Just kidding. Good video, I watched it from zero to end.
@@hitsonacousticguitar Ha ! Any time!
Thanks for watching! Much more to come in the future!
Make more videos like that ,
I love the way u explain
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Thanks man ! I enjoyed this video, but in hindsight, I think it underminds the value of my experiences I am sharing to make commentary on other peoples experiences. Regardless if I don’t align with them.
I've realised is that the more I truly learn and get my knowledge from genuine experts, the more you begin to suss out the bullshit videos on youtube.
Bang on!
i really despise these videos where "audio engineers" make blank statements or inferences with convictions based off of their bias like using the same technique or critiquing a plugin based off of what they recognise their purpose for it to be.. there's a lot of content online which confused amateur engineer me and whilst i had the passion and persistence to surf the web in search for different creative methods of using something as well as experience different ways of doing something and not being 'functionally fixed' when constantly thinking outside the box (pun intended), i believe that many people who get into the field of audio engineering are narrowed in a direction of thinking where engineering has become a science-based or fact-based skill, in a biblical sense, partially because of the amount of so-called tutorials that are out there that are extremely saturated and uninviting to learn especially at the beginning when everything is confusing and you're hearing different things from "experts" online.
81 runecrafting btw
I had a feeling Streaky would show up... If you want a good set of ears, GO FOR THE GUY WHO'S ALWAYS FUCKING YELLING
Yeah; search mastering tutorials; first page is peppered with streaky vids; which is fair play; first to market;
But I think the issue is that if you out don’t master it for Spotify they will process it themselves on their own and they could do it a way that’s more destructive or something right?
Are you going to do a separate master for every streaming service's requirements? What happens when one day they change said requirements? Re-do everything? That is in no way scalable. Make the master good as it can be, and don't worry about that stuff.
How can you do this to yourself haha, got same speakers btw, bit dull though
To be honest this was a fun video to make; little planning just search; watch and make comments!
The moment I promised myself to stop watching Mastering Tutorials on CZcams was seeing some of Streakys videos. I've never seen so much wrong info as in some of his videos. The guy literally tells people to completely de-link the L&R-Channels on a limiter. Like seriously wtf. There are not many thing that can ruin your master as much as completely de-linking channels. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Kind of makes you wonder if Streaky does that on purpose so that his masters are technically better than others.
you are right i leave breaths in my freestyle mixes so it sounds natural and not like im punching in!!
12:16
hey great vid, just wanted to leave my thoughts on the eq thing around 8:40 :
normal parametric eq's add a phase shift to the frequencies they boost / cut, just like analog ones do too. and i've heard people say that the specific details of the phase shift are part of the 'flavor' of a specific eq. even if it doesn't introduce additional harmonics.
so when you're boosting, you're adding flavor to the same frequencies you are boosting, but when you're cutting you're adding 'flavor' to the frequencies you're cutting away, so therefore it also makes the phase shift / flavor less audible.
i think that's why you sometimes hear people suggest cutting instead of boosting - it's preserves the natural sound in a way, because the frequencies you're adding artifacts to by phase shift are being lowered in volume anyway. of course it still affects the frequencies around it depending on the slope etc. but it's still a point to make.
so it makes sense that if you do want the specific flavor of an eq, even if it's just a standart parametric eq, cutting the mids would keep the sound more natural, and boosting highs and lows would add more flavor / phase shift to the signal as a whole. still i'm not sure about this piece of advice, and i personally can't hear the difference of phase shift anyway. i did read about that in mastering bob katz book though (i think) so i thought i'd drop a comment. let me know if i'm wrong about this
Hey Wayne;
Thanks for watching! Glad you liked the vid;
Most recently; I've done a break down on phase rotation on EQ's I think it will help clarify/demystify exactly their design by function; czcams.com/video/UAxkChjMIco/video.html
I have followed so much bad advice over the years 😂 this video had me crackin up
had to say it ;)
I've tried the 'cut mids' vs 'boost highs & lows' and I have to agree with Streaky here. I was expecting it to sound the same (I did gain match) but it didn't. The boosted signal sounded much better to me, but none the less they were very different. I'm not a pro and and can't explain it, but I think that's what Streaky was getting at?
i don’t even think Streaky believes what he’s saying in that video 😂😂😂 you caught him lacking lolol. he does have some decent info in other clips. CZcams has taught me how to sift good info from terrible info
really the 2nd one is not up to the people so that's wrong some and most music is not even meant to feel greate its meant for loudness which is really what they want so when the LUFS control changes so will the rest all platforms have there own meter on loudness nothing to do with dynamics but back in the day music was mixed for dynamics and not loudness. Alan Silverman The Future of Mastering: Loudness in the Age of Music Streaming is on CZcams if you want to learn this people some of the worst music today is doing better and not because of the song do the math songs or most songs today don't hit right and wont until people stop smashing the life out of the master o have only listen to 4:14 seconds of this and that's it for more so like you don't want to hear people talk about this or that we have that part in common peace
I'm only a couple of minutes in but this doesn't seem fair. It's you -- who I believe I've pointed out previously is literally beyond PhD level with this shit and reminds me more of my own PhD supervisors/professors. You're about to wreck some small children in a fistfight. I can feel the storm brewing.
I'm short listed for an Audio Production Senior lecturing gig that'll see me flying out the country for 12 months and I've still got the Pro-L2 video bookmarked to give it the proper time, attention, then time in front of the speakers and behind the controls to properly consolidate the information you're sharing. In terms of real-world application and what goes on under the hood etc you're in a league entirely of your own -- at least when it comes to public facing platforms.
I'm sure Bob and Ian etc are on it as well but they're not pumping out CZcams videos a couple of times a fortnight.
If I get the gig please start a Patreon. It's a professional obligation to stay abreast of the latest in the industry and there's no online resource for sourcing, consolidating and communicating better than you.
What are you talking about?
Thanks mate! I would say I am a little far away from PhD level, the people who write the papers, patents and documentation from which I learn are the true doctorates
Big shock, vacuous influencers on CZcams talk crap for engagement! It's time we all spent more time DOING, and less time listening to fools on CZcams.
you really are doing the lord's work here mate. so much misinformation. I do sympathise with these people having to come up with content for the algo all the time, and if they are genuinely ignorant then fair play, but it's the authority with which they speak that is troublesome . There's never any acknowledgement that they could be wrong or this is just an opinion, they state it like fact! (As though there are FACTS in real art for one!). So viewers should take things they read and watch with a hefty grain of salt and test these "tips" themselves rather than accepting what some guy with a ring light and set of speakers is saying as Gospel.
Keep dispelling these myths!
You know what; we've all done it before!
(Been wrong about something)
I'd be happy and glad if any one of these CZcamsrs, infact I'm always glad when someone pulls me up on my own BS...
Only way to learn;
Not streaky!😂😂😂😂
Should I have streaky on for an interview? Y/N
@@panorama_mastering ohh please yes!😂😂
@@panorama_mastering Yes, please do.
@@panorama_masteringdefinitely
Yes !
Biggest Snake oil in the Game
God , imagine telling him you don't like the final master.
I think he’d listen to your subjective response and try to find a solution. He’s obviously very astute and awake to nuance.
I never understood these videos.. just talk to your Mastering Engineer. He or she will tell you all about this
spot on!
I tell people, I'll make your music sound like you. That's honest, and well boring to some, but I don't believe in hype, just good work.
Good take!
Not Streaky's best explanation but let's put some respect on his name. The guy is one of the UK's top mastering engineers. His credential list is hugely impressive and he has been entrusted with mastering so many top artists over the past two and a half decades. He is also an accomplished mix engineer, and by all accounts has done very well for himself. It's pretty difficult to offer mastering tips, because people always want to be told exactly what to do, yet topics on mastering are generally nuanced and rarely black and white. The answer can nearly always be "Well, that's true in some cases, but...". That being said, I think a good piece of advice is to always lean on the side of less compression.
It's true, this guy talks about streaky as if he was a clown... but streaky has helped a lot more people give masterings in their homes... we are not all millionaire daddy's sons who could study sound engineering and buy their stuff easily from first world, like the owner of this channel.
+1 for streaky, because AT LEAST in MASTERING, HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
I like streaky, he was the first guy I saw to make the annoying short form turn it he’s never pushing shitty plugins or products he only pushes knowledge.
His old speaker reviews were great, hard to get honest opinions on gear these days.
I personally lost some respect when he said that it doesn't matter what sample rate you use when mixing because "it sounds the same", and therefore it was completely fine to record and mix in 44.1
@@soulofwaveswhile they don't sound the same, it is also true it doesn't matter which rate you mix or master at. It is just a matter of how many snapshots you want to be taken of the audio when choosing a rate to record at or sample up or down to.
@@audionerdlilcuz I would disagree on that. For example, when doing pitch correction or pitch shifting a 44.1 khz audio file can get noticeable artifacts, while at 48 khz it's practically unnoticeable. At the same time, when applying processing that involves some sort of distortion at mixing or mastering (saturation, clipping, limiting etc) even 48 khz are recommended to be oversampled in order to avoid undesired distortion and artifacts especially in the high end. All of these procedures matter because low sample rates (especially 44.1 khz) have their limitations. So, it definitely matters: it's not the same, and it doesn't sound the same.
Streaky is by far my least favorite guy to listen to. every video is contradictory.
Many different "Hot-takes"
I feel for you - watching all this content. Some of it completely misleading.
Regarding Streaky you've taken him completely out of context as he's a top mastering engineer. You point out his comment re not using a compressor yet Streaky uses compression all the time and teaches about it in mastering. Regarding point on EQ, he's talking about surgical cuts that should be done in mixing stage, not in mastering stage. That's the problem with looking at one video snippet of someone who is known as a too mastering engineer who has had some big names/ artists he's mastered for! And he has a top mastering studio to boot. Maybe you should interview him so he can put into context what you have criticized him for, otherwise others who watch this video will see him in a discredited light! So, get him on an interview, I'd be interested to watch it. I think you've put up some good videos but be careful to just jump in and rubbish someone whose methods you know little about and which isolated videos tell you very little in context and not forgetting we all can do videos where we make mistakes too.🤗
I feel like that's the road to learning mastering, you have to ruin some songs along the way to get good lol
Spot on!
Stop making sense Nick. Haha
Sorry!
Bit of a petty approach tbh.
Clearly there’s plenty of crap advice on the internet but someone like Streaky’s technical credit page on discogs kinda speaks for itself…what is it 983% more entries under a couple major mastering outfits?
Maybe just do your work and let it do the talking, respect other people in your chosen genre rather than cherry picking some material to present and position yourself on the CZcams mastering topic vis a vis others.
A lot of people might have gave some unsound advice here or there but none of them used your content to validate themselves or gain clients, or did they?
If the video were 25 minutes of tearing down every piece of advice I see where you're coming from; when I agreed with advice given on these videos I made sure to voice that.
I've had several times people mention other CZcams creators to me asking for my thoughts on their advice; and I made commentary on the facts of audio and mastering back;
Bullshit.
He went too easy on them in my opinion. Way more of this is needed. That's good that you found one person out of the bunch that maaaaaybe didn't deserve it. Good for you. The truth is that most of them don't know what the hell they're talking about, and because of idiots like you who coddle them and blow smoke up their ass, they will continue to make videos that misinform.
They need to be told that they are wrong. And it needs to be by someone who actually knows how to do the thing that they pretend to know how to do.
They should absolutely be ridiculed.
@@artkitectbeats1622 you tell'm tough guy.. enough molly coddling these idiots!
respectful criticism that includes endorsements when there is agreement & challenges where there is controversy has nothing to do with lack of respect. this comment is gaslighting. imagine telling your audio teacher who is doing commentary on various audio myths & points of view "treat us students with respect and let your work do the talking." lol they're a *teacher!* this is an educational video! your logic is not very logical.
@@Fire-Toolz i Imagine an audio teacher would have credentials …and on such a topic a professor would likely discuss commonly propagated myths in audio and not make a video of all the other “audio professors” he sees out there propagating myths, because he is a professional. calling petty for what it is, is not gaslighting.
I’ve seen all of these people on CZcams, the second guy is particularly annoying and full of it.