First Gyrocopter Lesson AutoGyro Cavalon 915iS Complete Flight at Adventure Air Gyroplanes
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- Henry, Adventure Air owner and world famous sky diver, takes Tigre up for his first official lesson in an AutoGyro Cavalon gyroplane (aka gyrocopter).
Flying out of Chino airport on a busy day, they head over to Chino Hills to practice climbing and descending turns, slow flight, rudder turns, and other maneuvers before heading back to land.
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Very informative. one question. Why is it OK to pull the stick all the way back at takeoff, but not at taxi speed?
Great question: blade flap and asymetric lift on the rotor blades. At slower speed, the blades aren't stiff enough and if lift is asymmetric, they'll actually flex and sometimes enough to either cut the pusher prop and/or the vertical stabilizers.
When it's rotating at takeoff speed and flying speed, the centrifugal force stiffens the rotor blades and keeps them clear of the tail and prop.
At least, that's how I remember it b/c it's been a few weeks since we've focused on these due to a home sale and client jet flights.
@@PersonalWings Thanks! I fly trikes and it seems all the trike pilots are moving to gyros. My biggest concern is there is no BRS in them. I love the fact that they go up in higher winds though.
@@tomo0008 Gyro is The only way to go man. I moved to gyros from powered paragliders and don't regret a single bit. In thermals you just feel like fish in the water. Perfect !!
Trikes aren’t three axis, so I’d fly a gyro any day. Seriously thinking about moving from ultralight (Beaver RX) to a gyro.
@@tomo0008 Why are Trike owners moving away from them I read that some say they don't like flying them in turbulent air. I can't really get a straight answer is it a fear of overstressing the wing on a trike, or just uncomfortable to fly. Gyros accident rate isn't exactly low that's why can't get affordable insurance. I have read some guys over on Rotary wing forum said they were quoted $7800 a year or about 10% cost of the gyro that was for experienced pilots. Some indicated they just go without insurance and take out a 2nd on their home for loan collateral so they are not forced to insure it as is the case with most financing. Sinking 80-120k into a gyro and not insure it seems foolish unless your good with risking the money. I guess figure if you total the gyro probably not going to be around anymore to worry about the loss of the investment. What I like about the gyro is the fact easy to trailer it no need for a hanger in my city hangers are 3 years wait list, or 1 hour drive to an airport outside the city.
I have family in Hildesheim Germany where the Cavalon factory is located, so was lucky enough to fly as a passenger in one of their autogyros. This 915iS in this video is really sweet but for pure fun, their original tandem seating open cockpit model is a pure smile maker. It feels like one is riding a flying motorcycle. What a view! It's about as much fun as you can have with your clothes on. 🙂
It must be nice to live by the factory. They build amazing gyrocopters. We will probably fly the other model as well this spring. Thanks for watching!
Oh ... didnt know they are settled in Germany. Living in Netherlands .... might plan a hopp over some day.
Really good, interesting variations from fixed wing. Heard myself telling the student to keep the nose up on the turn …some things never change…👍
I just flew with these guys this week. All great people. Thanks to John, Pete, my instructor for the day and Jeremy who puts together these great videos.
They are a wonderful team. We can't wait to get back out there! And this video was produced by us which almost matches Jeremy's skills! Thanks for watching.
Great instructor. . Audio is very clear. Good to hear the questions and answers from both instructor and student. Nice flight!
Thanks, Bob! We finally got the audio to record and Henry is an excellent and clear instructor.
This was for me a great introduction. Thank you both for allowing the third party view!
Thanks for the comment! We are planning more Gyrocopter videos this spring when we catch up with our other ones! Tigre and Rich
I used to love flying helicopters out of KCNO, but now living in Idaho. Thinking of going the gyrocopter route.
Hey, I’m selling a Gryo out of St. George Utah right now! I have both a Cavalon and 2017 MTO Classic for sale, would you be interested?
Interesting. The quality of sound is remarkable. I fly a Mooney and this is really a change. Thanks.
Thanks! We are working on improving our videos and audio - always learning. The gyro is a blast. If you get a chance even taking a demo ride can be a lot of fun.
Excellent video. Answered many questions about the flight dynamics and the behaviour of the gyro regarding power etc. one great video!
Thanks for watching. We hope to do more gyro videos soon !
Nice to get a peek at Chino Airfield again. Went to ground school there in my junior year of high school in 1977-78.
Chino still has the charm! It is busy with a lot of training activity, and of course Flo's is there :) You should visit again.
My how that airport has changed. I got my license there in 1981.
The Cavalon is so nice! I wish I had one! I like that it is German made. The Germans usually build quality stuff.
We sure are impressed with the aircraft!
Great CFI ! Thanks for sharing.
I see so much dark stuff on the internet its so nice to see a couple of nice people being normal, thank you
thx. there is always a shadow to the light! keep shining bright!
Chino Prison doesn't generally like any aircraft flyovers. I always used to fly south before flying north with the 71 freeway. I miss flying in this area...
Flew with Henry about a month ago, first gyro plane flight. They're all a great bunch of guys at Adventure Air. Next time go fly 20A with the Garmin G3X.
That was actually our first flight! 20A owner is at Coast a few hangars down from us!
Nice demonstration on the affect of torque roll.
It is good to practice them with an instructor. Something we don't want to encounter in normal flight. The instructors here are excellent.
Congratulations. Flying always brings something that makes us feel great,
Thanks. We have a bit more free time, and will be resuming the gyrocopter flights in February --- just so many aircraft to fly - we are very fortunate!
Cool videos, thanks.
For overdrive, while rolling you can unlock you rotor and turn the gyro until it aligns with the rotor. then lock again.
Thanks Francios!
I'm all excited; as if I'm flying myself. 😁🤸🥂😎
We're glad you enjoyed it!
Yay! Glad we can pass along some of the fun we're having! :D
Very educational 👍👍
thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Great video, thanks for uploading
Alex - thanks for watching! We hope to have more gyrocopter videos this fall to add to our channel. We also have TikTok and Instagram channels as well! Rich and Tigre.
i'm jealous, it must be fun up there
It is definitely a blast! Many of the GYROCOPTER schools offer demo flights at a reasonable cost. There my be one near you.
Awesome Video !!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Why Helicopters Are not replaced by this technology? Looks much safer than a helicopter.
In some aspects they are safer, however the utility of a helicopter in other functions is greater, such as; hovering, spot landings in small areas, aerial work (lifting, power line work, etc.) makes them more useful. Gyrocopters are definitely fun and less expensive to operate.
Great video. I feel like I can just jump in one and fly.
Thanks and glad you enjoyed the video of Tigre learning to fly! We are resuming our gyrocopter lessons this spring and will upload other videos. Our other flying (we manage and fly business jets) ended up taking more time recently.
I live in Tyonek Alaska. A rural location. We have a private airstrip. I'm in a great area to fly
@@Lecon60 An autogyro would be nice, not quit as flexible as a helicopter (I've flown them in Alaska) but a lot less expensive to operate. Autogyro offers heated seats - perfect for Alaska!
Very nice. I love how calmly instructor explains the procedures. I fly MTO SPORT, welcome to the family 😁
Thanks for the welcome. Henry is a great instructor, and we are having fun learning a new aircraft.
@@PersonalWings Work more on your direct cross wind techniques. It seems no where I go it's always freaking direct cross wind lol
@@ikay2102 Good suggestion, we just started flying the gyros and we practice crosswinds in our other aircraft, so a good idea!
Beautiful video. Like sitting on the backseat in the driving school car as 17 year young teenager. Very informative ... and as it seems takeoff seems more easy than a cup shoulder wings plane as the fuselage gimbals under tge rotir head. Is the education in Europe e.g. Netherlands the same ??
Unsure as all of our instruction has been in Oshkosh and Chino.
What is a realistic cross country cruise speed in one of these? Is 100 knots reasonable?
We've never flown them very far, but I would expect 90 on average. Perhaps other subscribers have a better idea.
I be doing the same in the same type of Autogro at Popham airfield Hampshire 😊
Have fun Peter!
@PersonalWings thank you I will, happy flying 😊
The majority of countries have the driver seated on the left side of ground vehicles.
Airborne vehicles should be configured the same way, seated on the left side.
The brain will like it.
rotorcraft are different. the brain can learn to fly either side.
@@PersonalWings 😄
nice ! I have only recently come to know of Gyrocopters, but one thing I can't get over is the vibration, is it not possible for them to be more smooth or is just their nature ?
From our limited experience, I think that is just the nature of a two-bladed aircraft. They are a little smoother in flight and some can be equpped with an autopilot that gives you time to remove your hand from the control stick. After a few flights you don't notice it very much. Have fun if you get a chance to fly them :)
@@PersonalWings nice ! I wish someday I could be a passenger in one 😄
Do you think take off is the trickiest part for experienced fixed wing pilots to master. Seems like number of crashes of gyros on takeoff most were endorsement pilots who are new to gyrocopters.
I'm certainly not an expert, however from what we have learned so far, the takeoff, and properly taxiing can be challenging for us fixed-wing pilots. I found the same thing with helicopters - the takeoff, hover, and landing. Once you are in the air it is easier. Not unlike when you first learned to fly airplanes. After teaching for 45 years, teaching someone how to fly the plane in the air is easy - the take off and landing is what is challenging! Probably why they have autoland in the commercial jets :)
I want to do this badly. Hopefully I start instruction very soon.
Ed, Tigre can chime in as well. All I can say is don't wait! Rich
Yeah, it's awesome. Definitely a learning curve and a lot of muscle memory/some unlearning to be done so you don't make mistakes, but a very fun way to aviate!
@@PersonalWings thanks for the info. I’ll have to weigh some pros and cons financially to see when and if I’m able to afford one.
@@eguerra4001 Ed you can always start slowly, with an instruction flight occasionally. It will also give you an idea if you enjoy it. Good luck exploring! Rich and Tigre.
@@eguerra4001 you near chino? look up adventure air
Are these aircraft covered under Sports Pilot’s licence or would you need a PPL ?
You can fly them with either the Sport Pilot license or a Private/Commercial/ATP license . There are different qualifications needed for each one, including knowledge/practical tests, hours etc. The Sport Pilot is the easiest for more folks. Tigre and I will initially get the Sport Pilot, then migrate to a Commercial at some point.
What about the total costs for such a sports pilot licence specifically focussed on flying Gyros?
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Thanks -- Tigre at 6'6" can even fit in the aircraft --- a plus.
Muy buen video y clara la explicación del instructor. 👏 Tanto en el despegue como en la ruta y aterrizaje. Cuánto cuesta el curso?
Pack that machine up and fly it to Tibet and fly around Everest! If you've got a turbo, let's see altitude! Nice lesson!
That would be cool!
I like the dashboard
It is a really nice layout. There’s lots of customization you can do with these if you build it from scratch.
Curious as to how much cockpit room there is for a tall guy in one of these and if there if there is a gyrocopter varient that works well for taller pilots? I am 6'5in. A curse to be this tall as a pilot who loves all things that fly.
Tigre is 6'6" and he basically maxes it out for room. Head isn't the issue, issue is leg length. If you have a taller torso than legs, then you're set. We had the seat as far aft as it would go.
Was this the aircraft that had the nose gear fall off after landing like 2 years ago? Coulda swore it was N232PG...?
Not sure about that - it stayed on when we were flying!
Have you ever flown the Gyro at Flay bob Airport?
We have not, however that is a good idea. Have you flown up there? We might fly up and investigate!
When taxing does the pusher propeller provide forward travel?
Yes, as well as the rest of the time. - then for takeoff you start the pre-rotator to start the rotor spinning. During flight it is not powered by the engine. There is great information, and a great course, at gyropedia.com that provides additional insight.
To maintain use of turbo full time, is it possible to install an ''intercooler' or something ? ( for higher altitudes )
All turbocharged engines use an intercooler of some type to help cool the incoming air. The turbo itself doesn't use the intercooler for cooling, however the compressed air is cooled for the intake.
How long, until you get a flying license.
How much is the course?
Depends on what you’re aiming for. A full private pilot license takes some time. If you already have a Private license and are a quick learner, you could solo with a rating addition in as little as five hours. Rich will get it faster as he just has more experience with rotorcraft, Tigre may take about 10-15 total hours for safety and proficiency. Maybe less, but quality training ensures a long life! 🤓
In the runup checklist, what are Lane A & B?
Lynne - as conventional aircraft engines have Left and Right Magnetos (and switches) the Rotax engines have Lane A and B. The Rotax engines are of course more sophisticated than magneto-ignition systems. The Lanes represent computers within the Engine Management Unit (EMU). In addition to having ignition coils (similar to cars) they have other electronic components that monitor sensors, etc. The engine system basically is a digital engine control. When you do the check, you are testing those systems under isolation.
Others folks might chime in with a more detailed answer to your question, but this is a good summary.
Looks like a little more arm room than a cessna
about a smidge
27,000 ft. ?! Holy moly!!!!!
It is actually 23,000 Ft, a bit lower but very high. The new specs show a full take off power to 15,000 Ft, however the AFM shows a max 'demonstrated' atltude of 12,000 Ft. With all the various altitudes, it is hard to keep track. I've heard of pilots taking them very high, but then you need to fly IFR, etc. The new specifications are available here: www.auto-gyro.com/en/Gyroplane/AutoGyro-Models/Cavalon/
@@PersonalWings Gotcha. Have they released the specs for the 916 yet?
Why the 5 second delay on instrument reading? Is this a digital gps issue vs an analog gauge? So this is not a pitot-static system?
Know which timestamp you're referring to?
@@PersonalWings 16:28. Thanks
@@crawford323 That helps. I believe the few second delay the Instructor is mentioning is due to instrument damping, similar to a VSI instrument unless it is a IVSI. We will check and let you know. Thanks again for watching and the comments help us.
What are the glide ratio and minimum descent rate without power? Anybody?
William depending upon the gyro - the glide ratio is 3:1 with indicated airspeed of approximately 60 MPH (knots similar) in the Cavalon. Basically you have to be very close to where you want to land
Is this student adding a rotorcraft rating? He seems proficient on the radio more so than most students.
That is Tigre, we are working on our ratings and he has become a pro pilot this year. I have the honor of being his father and CFI for all the airplane ratings
@@PersonalWings This made me smile. Congratulations, he seems very well trained and confident. Good job.
Compliment for being the instructor. I love ur student is speaking out loudly to recap and memory. Seems he has good self confidence . For a video its perfect we as viewers can follow each single step easily.👍
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Cavalon or Calidus?
Cavalon, however both are nice aircraft.
Is there a way to use the turbo full time ? ( by cooling it somehow )
Marc aircraft turbos are primarily cooled by oil all the time. In aircraft engines the turbos are running continuously providing either enough air to be 'turbo-normalized' or 'turbocharged'.
How much per hour to fly your gyrocopter?
Gyros are fun! Go for it. Don’t recall the total hour with instruction.
Here it is 2023 and still can't have sound clarity by radio.
The external audio profile on Bluetooth is excellent. I think one of the reasons for any audio clarity is the FAA specifications may not have been developed by audiophiles! The ATC/intercom specs are determined by the TSO.
Why do manufacturers build such cramped cockpits ?
It is a balance between size and performance, and the designers must not be very tall. All aircraft have design limits due to the regulations on weight, and I agree some are not comfortable, including some of the jets we fly. The Cavalon is one of the few Light Sport aircraft that we can fit in. Tigre is 6'5" and I'm 6'2".
what if the engine stops then what?
You autorotate. Autogyros basically always autorotate. Where an autorotation in helicopters is an abnormal event, for these it is standard operation. They don’t glide far, but don’t need to in order to one safely.
Why is it shaking at low RPM?
cause it’s a gyrocopter.
What's the cost for instruction?
The price varies by location, but if you plan for $250/hr that is a start. We recommend it even if you only do a demonstration flight to see if you like it, or perhaps a few demonstration flights :)
We shouldn't be any talk or gossip when you're in an airplane or flying a plane or even around playing it's too serious you shouldn't even be talking about anything except necessary talk all it takes is one second of not paying attention and a jet
John, we definitely have times when we limit conversation just to the flight segment. At other points it is safe to have conversations on non-flight topics and we enjoy doing that.
The fake laughter spoils the presentation.
they said it would bring all the boys to the yard! we need a refund.
Low hour pilot in way over his head.
13,000 hours is low, isn't it?
@@PersonalWings Maybe it's time to upgrade to a real aircraft.
@@456swagger Gyrocopters are real aircraft :) In fact one of the oldest, with the first flight in 1923! We are fortunate to fly a large variety of aircraft, over 400 representing 110 different models so far. The Gyros have got to be one of the most fun to fly!
@@PersonalWings
I think the student is a NASCAR driver.