1960: A Taste of SALFORD with SHELAGH DELANEY | Monitor | Writers and Wordsmiths | BBC Archive

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  • Profile of 21-year-old dramatist Shelagh Delaney, whose play - A Taste of Honey - had debuted to acclaim at Joan Littlewood's Theatre Workshop two years previously.
    Both of her literary works, including the recent The Lion in Love, were set and greatly influenced by her life to date in Salford. Bittersweetly, she remarks on how on both the attractions and flaws of the city where she was born and bred.
    Clip taken from Monitor: Shelagh Delaney's Salford, originally broadcast on BBC Television, Sunday 25 September, 1960.
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  • @hilaryepstein6013
    @hilaryepstein6013 Před 2 měsíci +62

    Oh my goodness. What a glorious film of this incredible young writer. I could have listened to her for hours. She seems to know more about the human condition at 21 than most people do in their whole lifetime.

  • @76ToneCrome
    @76ToneCrome Před 2 měsíci +39

    Truly gifted, charming, and disarmingly charismatic.

  • @Patrick-sh9tt
    @Patrick-sh9tt Před 2 měsíci +37

    I hadn´t heard of Shelagh before but when she started speaking all I could think of was Morrisey and it turns out she indeed had a huge impact on him. A wonderful video and I must explore her work further.

    • @danpreston564
      @danpreston564 Před 2 měsíci +2

      She was a cover star of a couple of Smiths records. That’s how I first come across her in the 80s.

  • @juanman75
    @juanman75 Před 2 měsíci +32

    Love these little portals into the past.

  • @catherinecole3978
    @catherinecole3978 Před 2 měsíci +21

    Not my Grandparents' memories of growing up in the slums of Salford, Manchester. When my Grandpa asked my Grandma to marry him in 1900, she replied: 'Only if we emigrate to Canada!', which they did. After settling in Montreal, when World War One broke out in 1914, my Grandpa volunteered to go back and fight for King and country. For his troubles, he was gassed and got shrapnel in his eye. Luckily enough, he was able to wait out the rest of the War in a convalescent hospital in England. He happily returned to Canada afterwards. My Father was born in 1920.

  • @abiola33
    @abiola33 Před 2 měsíci +19

    Wow, what a breath of fresh air this interview. Shelagh's natural intelligence, personality, and modern beauty shine brightly.

  • @Fill_30
    @Fill_30 Před 2 měsíci +19

    Such an awesome step into the past. Salford is so different now!

    • @gmc9451
      @gmc9451 Před 2 měsíci

      Where isn't!.

    • @Tmuk2
      @Tmuk2 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@gmc9451 Yeah but Salford in particular - there's practically nothing left standing that you can see in the film. Even the street layouts are completely different.

  • @andydixon2980
    @andydixon2980 Před 2 měsíci +25

    What a fascinating piece of film. Especially the camera walking through the market. Wonderful stuff.

    • @muttley5958
      @muttley5958 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Yep - no diversity. 😂😂

  • @Summer_Dream3r
    @Summer_Dream3r Před 2 měsíci +24

    Ah, the woman who graced the cover of The Smiths' compilation album. She seemed like a vibrant spirit with a deeply introspective mind. That being said, the video quality, for something so old, is stunning.

    • @swanvictor887
      @swanvictor887 Před 2 měsíci +6

      ...because it was shot on 16mm film. Video was only available in studios, in 1960.

    • @newmankidman5763
      @newmankidman5763 Před 2 měsíci +2

      There is something about many films of the past which makes those people feel more real and present with you than films and videos of Today do

    • @toomuchinformation
      @toomuchinformation Před 6 dny

      ​​@@newmankidman5763Yes that's true. They do seem more alive. It's partly because of the film stock that's used.

    • @newmankidman5763
      @newmankidman5763 Před 5 dny

      @@toomuchinformation, yes, indeed

    • @toomuchinformation
      @toomuchinformation Před 5 dny

      @@newmankidman5763 I also think that people WERE more present and grounded then, because of the aftermath of the war and the real hardships they'd suffered.

  • @heinkle1
    @heinkle1 Před 2 měsíci +14

    In the opening scene, I love the semi-detached 1930s house with the original steel window - the house was already c.25 years old when this was filmed, but has aged well.

  • @andygarner7747
    @andygarner7747 Před 2 měsíci +9

    What a beautiful, intellectual, inspirational lady.

  • @MrACOUSTICPETE
    @MrACOUSTICPETE Před 2 měsíci +19

    Wow ! Such wisdom and insight . Amazingly calm and non judgmental . Definitely ,food for thought !
    Great stuff!

  • @brandywell44
    @brandywell44 Před 2 měsíci +6

    My late Dad was from Pendlebury, his home backed onto the market, before my Nana moved the family to Bolton Road. Lovely place and people.

  • @swanvictor887
    @swanvictor887 Před 2 měsíci +5

    These kinds of films are wonderful time capsules of a past age...remarkable in so many ways. For me, the biggest shock is seeing all those children, playing freely in the streets!
    Fifty years from now, they might play this footage to a generation that have never seen such a sight, let alone be part of such freedom, as was I, growing up in the 70s!
    As for Shelagh, phew, remarkable girl, so inciteful, beautiful and wise. And A Taste of Honey is a masterpiece.

  • @petergivenbless900
    @petergivenbless900 Před 2 měsíci +5

    I remember the class having to read 'A Taste of Honey' in high school, and the "English" teacher never gave any indication of the tone of the piece, so we were reading it without any trace of its use of irony and sarcasm, and I remember thinking, "this is the weirdest play I've ever read". A few years later I saw an adaptation of the play on TV and it suddenly clicked; "oh, that's how it's supposed to sound!"

  • @fredo1070
    @fredo1070 Před 2 měsíci +16

    Beautiful critique of post war housing.

  • @grizcuz
    @grizcuz Před 2 měsíci +9

    My auntie reckoned she worked with Shelagh at Metropolitan Vickers on Trafford Park. Now my auntie could be a bit of a teller of tall tales at times, so whilst it's possible [my auntie definitely did work at Metropolitan Vickers and so did Shelagh]. Whether they worked together or after Shelagh became famous, my auntie embroidered the details, I don't know. For non Mancunians, toffees equals any sort of sweet, not just toffees.

  • @whatamalike
    @whatamalike Před 2 měsíci +15

    I'll send this to morrissey and he will be very happy

    • @michaeldagger991
      @michaeldagger991 Před 2 měsíci +8

      No he won't.😂

    • @whatamalike
      @whatamalike Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​@@michaeldagger991true. He's probably already seen it a billion times already 😅

    • @d33j4ybf
      @d33j4ybf Před 2 měsíci +1

      I mean...
      It's possible(?)

    • @dougie1968
      @dougie1968 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@michaeldagger991 know him, do you?

  • @bsmith5404
    @bsmith5404 Před 2 měsíci +6

    A great interview. Love the play/film.

  • @kidicaruz
    @kidicaruz Před 2 měsíci +13

    Her monlogue really resonated with me. Her thoughts and observations are pretty timeless. Also, the camerman did a great job capturing the bleakness of this place. Great shots!

  • @indigohammer5732
    @indigohammer5732 Před 2 měsíci +6

    The same as Glasgow. They demolished the slums and decanted the inhabitants into peripheral housing estates with no amenities. A Theatre?! They didn’t even provide bus services or shops!!

  • @LostHatProductions
    @LostHatProductions Před 2 měsíci +1

    Just seen Royal Exchange, Manchester’s fantastic in the round production of ‘Honey’. Very engaging with the audience. Funny, sad, thought provoking. All you want in a play, and still fresh.

  • @neilirvine95
    @neilirvine95 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Wonder if morrissey wrote Sheila take a bow after this wonderful girl 😊

    • @milquetoasted
      @milquetoasted Před 2 měsíci +1

      without a doubt - morrissey is a big fan of shelagh delaney

  • @bardo0007
    @bardo0007 Před 2 měsíci

    What an amazing footage , I need to look her up.

  • @morganfisherart
    @morganfisherart Před 2 měsíci +3

    This has been on CZcams for years, a few more minutes longer. But I really like this newly enhanced version. It is so clear. Thank you!

  • @colinblackledge2942
    @colinblackledge2942 Před 2 měsíci

    Last week I met the cast of A Taste of Honey at the Royal Exchange, Manchester. All lovely people. I watched two performances. Both brilliant.Jill Halfpenny played Helen. Rowan Robinson who played Jo is Salford lass

  • @seanrm
    @seanrm Před 2 měsíci

    Simply, magnificent.

  • @davidpollard4051
    @davidpollard4051 Před 2 měsíci +4

    She was very tall by those standards. Towering over most of the men.

  • @milligan8679
    @milligan8679 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Directed by Ken Russell

  • @alannorman1773
    @alannorman1773 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Genius ❤

  • @levitation25
    @levitation25 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Community life valued and remembered.

  • @Annayasha
    @Annayasha Před 2 měsíci +2

    What an interesting lady with a wonderful mind. I could listen to her for hours, and the Black and White images are better than any movie these days

  • @oneblueorange
    @oneblueorange Před 7 dny

    she's gorgeous

  • @mdog2435
    @mdog2435 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Was all of Northern England gray back then? Reminds me of similar scenes in Liverpool.☁☔

  • @jasonladd6400
    @jasonladd6400 Před 2 měsíci

    Had a mature outlook beyond her years.

  • @nigelh4617
    @nigelh4617 Před 2 měsíci

    She could talk for hours. And I could listen to her for hours.

  • @Denis.Collins
    @Denis.Collins Před 2 měsíci +2

    “Dirty old Town”

  • @DasTubemeister
    @DasTubemeister Před 2 měsíci +4

    She could be the older sister of Morrissey.Similar characteristics.

  • @DaraM73
    @DaraM73 Před 2 měsíci +23

    I’d love the BBC to return to observing reality.

    • @muttley5958
      @muttley5958 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I think deep down they've always hated the working class, and Britain.
      At every given opportunity they will promote the third world while knocking Britain. 😳🙄
      - The Enemy Within. ❔

    • @Voyager...2
      @Voyager...2 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@muttley5958
      Absolutely.

    • @muttley5958
      @muttley5958 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@Voyager...2
      I'm curious, can you still see my first comment ❔
      Because on my phone I can't, but I can see your reply.
      I wonder why ❔

    • @danmayberry1185
      @danmayberry1185 Před 2 měsíci +2

      * other brands of reality are available

    • @Voyager...2
      @Voyager...2 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@muttley5958
      I can't see it any more.

  • @newmankidman5763
    @newmankidman5763 Před 2 měsíci

    Today, April 21, 2024, is the very first time I am hearing of her, and she has already been "dead for 13 years

  • @evelk5233
    @evelk5233 Před 2 měsíci

    Frankly, Mr. Shankly, this position I've held
    It pays my way and it corrodes my soul
    I want to leave, you will not miss me
    I want to go down in musical history

    • @evelk5233
      @evelk5233 Před 2 měsíci

      edit
      In 1986, the Smiths' lead singer and lyricist Morrissey said: "I've never made any secret of the fact that at least 50 percent of my reason for writing can be blamed on Shelagh Delaney"

  • @JJONNYREPP
    @JJONNYREPP Před 2 měsíci +6

    1960: A Taste of SALFORD with SHELAGH DELANEY | Monitor | Inspirational Women | BBC Archive 0805am 5.4.24 theatre workshop? was that harry h corbett's stomping ground? one mattress and a van.... ahahahaha.....

  • @gjones8847
    @gjones8847 Před 2 měsíci

    How good the BBC was in the old days, those clips remind me of inner city Liverpool.

  • @wataboutya9310
    @wataboutya9310 Před 2 měsíci +4

    That loaf of bread she was cutting most likely had four ingredients tops. Take a look at the ingredients list on a loaf of bread you buy today and see how many are listed. It's little wonder we have an ongoing health crisis.

    • @gmc9451
      @gmc9451 Před 2 měsíci

      Spot on. I no longer eat bread. Hovis - "as good as it's ever been", what a joke. Full of crap, not least poisonous rape seed oil.

    • @paulwild3676
      @paulwild3676 Před 2 měsíci

      That’s why everyone was stuck thin.

    • @josiahcole3186
      @josiahcole3186 Před 2 měsíci

      Ultra processed rubbish! Started to make my own bread from time to time

  • @DustyCustard
    @DustyCustard Před 2 měsíci

    6:06 60s kid invents parkour

  • @paulwild3676
    @paulwild3676 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Salford is a city. How different her accent is to the Salford of today.

    • @bluesnowbelle7625
      @bluesnowbelle7625 Před 2 měsíci

      I was born there in 1960 and grew up there and the way she speaks in this footage is EXACTLY how I remember most people there spoke then. Teachers at the school I attended, were very particular about diction. They always said that accent didn't matter as long as your speech wasn't 'lazy' or 'sloppy'. They would pull you up if they didn't hear the Ds and Ts etc at the end of words. . People there must have just become 'lazy' over the years. I think the actors in 'Coronation St' didn't help as most of them early on were from Oldham, not Salford. Then the ridiculous exaggerated 'Manc' nonsense took over, influencing youngsters - by which time all the strict, 'old-fashioned' teachers had passed away!

    • @bluesnowbelle7625
      @bluesnowbelle7625 Před 2 měsíci

      Btw, it only became a city in 1974 - fourteen years after this footage was filmed.

    • @paulwild3676
      @paulwild3676 Před 2 měsíci

      @@bluesnowbelle7625 Salford was a city before 1974. It was granted city status in 1926. The first thing Salfordians say, is that they are a city separated from Manchester.

    • @paulwild3676
      @paulwild3676 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@bluesnowbelle7625 I was born in 1963 in Oldham and I don’t recall diction being taught in my schools. Perhaps it had stopped shortly after you went to school. 1963 was the start of the laissez faire attitude to everything. Accents have changed. If you listen to old footage of people from working class areas of Manchester, they speak with a soft Lancashire accent, none of this, as you say Manc whine.

    • @bluesnowbelle7625
      @bluesnowbelle7625 Před 2 měsíci

      @@paulwild3676 The diction issue may have been confined to the junior school I went to - as when I went to high school (a girls grammar school which was ruined by the comprehensive takeover), the other girls sometimes asked why my speech was ‘so posh’ 😂. It wasn’t of course: it just wasn’t sloppy!
      And you’re so right about the culture change a few years later.

  • @pitdog75
    @pitdog75 Před 2 měsíci

    Slight Stephen Fry vibes.

  • @Take_Me_Back_To_The_1980s
    @Take_Me_Back_To_The_1980s Před 2 měsíci +12

    Imagine a time when people would be homesick for England instead of having been raised to hate it

  • @footballhipster
    @footballhipster Před 2 měsíci +1

    0:28 I mean, even the film is grey! 😅

  • @k_DAN
    @k_DAN Před 2 měsíci

    And in just a short 2 years, she'd be buying " Love Me Do " and screaming for The Beatles.

  • @iseegoodandbad6758
    @iseegoodandbad6758 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Oh my goodness!!! The women back then were taller than the men!! They seemed better nourished than their male counterparts?? 🤔

    • @milquetoasted
      @milquetoasted Před 2 měsíci +1

      she was 5'11, an outlier

    • @iseegoodandbad6758
      @iseegoodandbad6758 Před 2 měsíci

      @@milquetoasted not uncommon though. Diets were nutritious back then even if the standard of living was lower. Nowadays so many young women are short!!!

    • @gmann6269
      @gmann6269 Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​​​@@iseegoodandbad6758 No, women and men back then were generally shorter. A 5'11" woman would have been rare (even now it is)