The World’s First Eco-Corvette Is Complete! SMASHED 40 MPG Without Sacrificing ANYTHING! EcoVette!

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  • @LegitStreetCars
    @LegitStreetCars  Před 4 lety +151

    What the best fuel economy you've gotten and what kind of car?

    • @danielhurley7018
      @danielhurley7018 Před 4 lety +48

      51mpg - 1999.5 MK4 TDI Jetta 5 speed

    • @rohittaurus911
      @rohittaurus911 Před 4 lety +2

      My 08 hyundai, 18 kmpl.

    • @taelorwatson9822
      @taelorwatson9822 Před 4 lety +35

      20 mpg 1970 Hemicuda

    • @josipmilkovic9970
      @josipmilkovic9970 Před 4 lety +4

      2006 cls 320 cdi 6.5l/100km ~39mpg on a 1000km trip

    • @john-vy1ml
      @john-vy1ml Před 4 lety +13

      Had a 88 grand am that got 34 mpg on the highway. Very impressive for back then until the head gasket grenaded the motor.

  • @Samcrac
    @Samcrac Před 4 lety +293

    New license plate MPG (Muscle Per Gallon)

    • @whyareyoureadingmyname5854
      @whyareyoureadingmyname5854 Před 4 lety +5

      Its a sports car, not a muscle car

    • @DietCornFlakes
      @DietCornFlakes Před 4 lety +3

      I know you're reading My name front engine push rod v8 rwd high displacement not a muscle car?

    • @rydoggo
      @rydoggo Před 4 lety +3

      @@DietCornFlakes if it has any concern for aero, it's not really a muscle car at that point. Plus, it can't take a hit and still drive. And, it's not heavy.

    • @FrezzyYT
      @FrezzyYT Před 4 lety

      ECOVETE

    • @snek9353
      @snek9353 Před 4 lety +3

      Ehh, plenty of muscle cars had concern for aero, a lot are fastbacks. But yes the Corvette is sports not muscle. A muscle car is a full size with a back seat and most would say has to have a big block.

  • @JDJD-mw9rr
    @JDJD-mw9rr Před 2 lety +38

    LS1 has to be one of the best engines ever made. 350hp and 30mpg, wow

    • @wootuser
      @wootuser Před rokem +4

      And the LS engines are easy to work on and plenty of engine mods and forum help.

  • @aspecreviews
    @aspecreviews Před 4 lety +612

    For an engine without 4-cylinder mode, that sure is impressive!

    • @mikey380sx
      @mikey380sx Před 4 lety +32

      My old car had the L76 V8 with AFM. Every time the 4 cylinders kicked back in the instant fuel gauge would spike momentarily. This wouldn’t be such a problem but unless I was on a perfectly flat road it would shut off and turn back on all the time basically defeating the point of it. I’ve heard of guys getting better economy after disabling cylinder deactivation

    • @hacatan24
      @hacatan24 Před 4 lety +11

      @@mikey380sx one of my friends has a avalanche and he hates that AFM...... So he bought off AFM delete kit.... He said he gets better fuel mileage.....

    • @dakotafrederick4909
      @dakotafrederick4909 Před 4 lety +2

      Reading Mike and Hacat's comments makes me wonder if my '12 challenger R/T is the same way. I have ECO mode that shuts off 4 cylinders. Might find a way to disable it and test if I get better fuel mileage.

    • @hacatan24
      @hacatan24 Před 4 lety

      @@dakotafrederick4909 so you can't disable it through the settings?

    • @hacatan24
      @hacatan24 Před 4 lety

      @@dakotafrederick4909 that eco mode for Chevy and GMC hookes up to your odb2 plugin... And if u remove it then you get that eco mode back.....

  • @bigospig
    @bigospig Před 4 lety +187

    You're not even hyper-miling and you've broken the 40 MPG barrier. Great job!!!

    • @punker4Real
      @punker4Real Před 4 lety +2

      if it's in v4 mode it's hypermile

    • @MrPland1992
      @MrPland1992 Před 3 lety +5

      Not really that hard. They get like 35mpg stock with the 6spd. My ws6 trans am got 32mpg at 90 mph. My buddies 800hp pro charged c6 gets 36mpg at 90. I thought his gas gauge was broken.

    • @swiftripper7557
      @swiftripper7557 Před 2 lety +4

      @@MrPland1992 huh? How do you get mpg like that? I don't think I've managed above 22 on the highway, babying the car in 6th gear...

    • @smithhawkins6331
      @smithhawkins6331 Před 2 lety +1

      @@swiftripper7557 hell my c4 will do 30 mpg cruising at 70 and a bit in 6th

    • @michaelbyrd5573
      @michaelbyrd5573 Před 2 lety

      @@MrPland1992 biggest reason I'm currently in the market for a C5z / 08+ c6. Read about every thread on corvette forum and video covering the c5/c6 and fuel economy. Most say their c5 easily hit 30-34 on average. 05-07 28-34. C6z ls7 26-28. All stock, 6 spd cars. Supercharging may take a 1-2 mpg hit while general consensus is proper tune may add 1-2 mpg. Your buddy should document his awesome fuel economy. Wonder if he's changed his gearing? About 99% of owners whom daily say 65-75 mph is optimal . Anything over 80 makes the needle fall,so to speak.. Did yall hand calculate his fuel economy and over how many miles. Can he hit that 36 every tank. Mountainous area? Inquiring minds want to know.

  • @regulareverydaynormalguy6479

    Toyota: Our new Corolla can do 35 MPG!
    Alex: Hold my CDI keys.

    • @palillo2006
      @palillo2006 Před 4 lety +5

      Imagine if the Corolla had lean burn

    • @scarea2691
      @scarea2691 Před 4 lety +1

      @@palillo2006 my Civic has lean burn under 60mph. look up 3 stage vtec. I never use it though and I still get 30

    • @tommylyeah
      @tommylyeah Před 4 lety

      @@scarea2691 - You've a D15B?

    • @palillo2006
      @palillo2006 Před 4 lety

      @@scarea2691 I know. Civic hatch vx or hx had lean burn and would usually get about 45-50 mpg.

    • @Iahusha777Iahuah
      @Iahusha777Iahuah Před 4 lety +3

      This exposes the conspiracy. Why is lean burn at cruising speeds not on everything now?

  • @IndependenceCityMotoring
    @IndependenceCityMotoring Před 4 lety +246

    The C5 Corvette is the best used sports car on the market right now...

    • @davidray4128
      @davidray4128 Před 4 lety +18

      Especially the Z06

    • @THATNI99AJOHN
      @THATNI99AJOHN Před 4 lety +2

      David Ray been looking at some just to pass time at work . I just hate that it’s a rattle trap but regardless it’s still a damn good car .

    • @IndependenceCityMotoring
      @IndependenceCityMotoring Před 4 lety +11

      @@THATNI99AJOHN It's not...just like any car there are some not taken care of and others well taken care of.

    • @THATNI99AJOHN
      @THATNI99AJOHN Před 4 lety

      Independence City Motoring I mean the interior rattles . Least the ones I’ve been in do .

    • @derjoh1986
      @derjoh1986 Před 4 lety +3

      I think the C6 is.

  •  Před 4 lety +371

    you need to check the termostat asap and repeat this test, I think you are underestimating the importance of the engine to be a the right temp to get the best MPG

    • @r129r16pfl
      @r129r16pfl Před 4 lety +47

      And never cost in neutral! Always be in gear, + it's a very bad habit.

    • @scarecrow6741
      @scarecrow6741 Před 4 lety +4

      @@r129r16pfl And why is that?

    • @mountaincarjunkie3307
      @mountaincarjunkie3307 Před 4 lety +7

      @@scarecrow6741 if you need to react quick you have to put the car in gear which could mean too little too late.

    • @r129r16pfl
      @r129r16pfl Před 4 lety +107

      @@scarecrow6741 when you are in gear and lift of the throttle, engine cuts fuel completely, when you are in neutral, engine needs to hold the idle and uses fuel. Watch Engineering Explained

    • @GoldenCroc
      @GoldenCroc Před 4 lety +17

      @@r129r16pfl thats correct, but its not that easy. Coasting in neutral is beneficial in many cars if you want to keep speed going downhill for example. So saying always be in gear is not quite true. But most people dont want to take hypermiling that far.

  • @Bliggity
    @Bliggity Před 4 lety +52

    Oil in a box is a great idea. My wife gets her wine that way.

    • @punker4Real
      @punker4Real Před 4 lety +2

      it's oil in a bag that might end up in the ocean

    • @jeffcormack4718
      @jeffcormack4718 Před 3 lety +1

      Yes my wife says it connects with the intravenous very easily.

  • @euroford
    @euroford Před 4 lety +19

    not being that into vettes or fuel economy, i kind of thought "oh god who cares, go drag race the e55 please", but i've actually really enjoyed this series and its great food for thought for all of us with street driven performance cars. dang i'd love a 700 mile highway range.

  • @faafridi
    @faafridi Před 4 lety +59

    Add a small turbo with every thing else stock, then tune for eco.

    • @elreyyakko
      @elreyyakko Před 4 lety +2

      Id like to see that,6-8psi just to cruise.

    • @snek9353
      @snek9353 Před 4 lety +4

      Yeah the right turbo setup can save fuel. Be really tricky on that motor though.

    • @TheDaltonmichaels
      @TheDaltonmichaels Před 3 lety +4

      you wont get better mpg with a turbo the way you are thinking. Hes already running about as lean as physically possible with no boost and still able to maintain speed just fine. If you add any kind of boost you are adding more air. assuming you keep the same lean air fuel ratio you will still consume more fuel. The best way to increase efficiency is to consume the least amount of fuel possible. The best way to consume less fuel is to consume less air. The caveat is that you still have to make enough power to overcome drag. With this instance the engine makes enough power to overcome all the resistance of driving while also being at a very low RPM in the highest gear under a very lean AF ratio. So at least in this instance a turbo would make things worse.

    • @HAMMER_2.2
      @HAMMER_2.2 Před 3 lety

      @@TheDaltonmichaels what do you think is the better way to increase economy, the tuning they did on this corvette or a turbo with low boost?

    • @Mgoblagulkablong
      @Mgoblagulkablong Před 3 lety

      Stupid. Turbo needs fuel, do youu think it runs on magic???

  • @TJK_Audio
    @TJK_Audio Před 4 lety +69

    Thanks for treating my old car so well, Alex! It's been great to watch.

    • @CalebBaker500
      @CalebBaker500 Před 4 lety +1

      Did you install a colder thermostat?

    • @TJK_Audio
      @TJK_Audio Před 4 lety +9

      @@CalebBaker500 I didn't, but a previous owner definitely could have. Title history shows it had been around a few states and owners before I ended up with it (I had it about 6 years). I didn't mod it myself, but fixed a bunch of things all with stock parts (except for that sweet Lingenfelter shift knob - that's worth like 30whp right? haha). As far as I could tell when I got it, the major mods were K&N cold air intake and straight pipes after the cat. Someone who did that could have easily put in an aftermarket thermostat, but I was never aware of that.

    • @jason51691
      @jason51691 Před rokem +2

      @@TJK_Audio I just recently bought this car a week ago. Seems like it’s been through a few owners in the past few years, still getting to learn everything that’s been done to it but I love it so far

    • @p9vg
      @p9vg Před rokem +1

      @@jason51691 damn, you've been on youtube for 17 years !!!

    • @jason51691
      @jason51691 Před rokem +1

      @@p9vg that’s right

  • @WarpedPerception
    @WarpedPerception Před 4 lety +109

    This is proof that manufacturers are holding back on what they can do...!.

    • @johnclary729
      @johnclary729 Před 4 lety +31

      Not really, running that lean causes excess NOx emissions beyond what the cat can clean up.

    • @DonnieDarko727
      @DonnieDarko727 Před 3 lety +3

      @@johnclary729 I'll believe Alex thanks

    • @RickBaconsAdventures
      @RickBaconsAdventures Před 3 lety +20

      It's the EPA. Lean burn makes the exhaust have gasses they don't want. Running stoich makes the gasses the way they want.

    • @headlesnorseman701
      @headlesnorseman701 Před 3 lety +3

      honda started doing this in the 90s. the CVCC and vtec-e motors were pretty remarkable

    • @andrewa9228
      @andrewa9228 Před 3 lety +6

      @@RickBaconsAdventures Yes, but it still proves that there are ways to increase mpg, without sacrificing power. In my opinion manufacturers should do what dodge and chevy do with their corvette and charger series. Think about it, a Hellcat Charger has an eco-mode that gives it better mpg from the flick of a switch. While yes, the power is reduced. No one needs 700+ HP everywhere.
      I'm surprised there isn't many tuners that invested into an eco mode for cars.

  • @thewolf61691
    @thewolf61691 Před 4 lety +102

    I bought a new ls3 c6 when gas was 4.40 for premium in 2008, everyone screamed at me at gas stations while they filled their trailblazers and pickups. They didnt know I got 32 highway at 78mph.

    • @colinrogers5419
      @colinrogers5419 Před 4 lety +4

      What do they care what you spend on gas?

    • @thewolf61691
      @thewolf61691 Před 4 lety +19

      @@colinrogers5419 because they thought I was rich and wasteful because few realize how fuel efficient c5 or newer corvettes are.

    • @cleverusernamecl5532
      @cleverusernamecl5532 Před 4 lety +9

      @@colinrogers5419 Exactly, like people give a shit what kind of fuel mileage you are getting.

    • @LaserLuther
      @LaserLuther Před 4 lety +2

      My M6 LS2 GTO crushes millage too it shocks people.

    • @connordunckel6905
      @connordunckel6905 Před 4 lety

      That's better than my 2017 wrx, anything past 75mpg and my mileage starts to crap out

  • @clarks2001
    @clarks2001 Před 4 lety +51

    Swap that thermostat and do it again. I’m sure that putting the factory thermostat will help eek out a little more.

    • @brianwelteroth9248
      @brianwelteroth9248 Před 4 lety +1

      Wait. He doesnt have the stock thermostat?... He just lost a couple of points in my book too.

    • @snek9353
      @snek9353 Před 4 lety

      Yup, and....
      1. Turn off/down the fan, it was mentioned they turned down the temp at which it activates.
      2. Unplug/switch off the AC compressor. Most cars turn on the AC compressor when the climate control is in defrost. Put it on a toggle switch so when needed he still has it.
      3. Install an electric water pump, much more efficient.

  • @whollymindless
    @whollymindless Před 4 lety +91

    Havoline is now the "box wine" of oils. (Actually a good idea)

    • @johnbcardin
      @johnbcardin Před 4 lety +5

      Wholly Mindless but where do you put the used oil? Back in the box?

    • @CraigFenske
      @CraigFenske Před 4 lety +3

      @@johnbcardin exactly. Can't litter it cause your not eco friendly no more. Put it in a bottle? You dont have no bottle to put it in.

    • @Mediocrates9
      @Mediocrates9 Před 4 lety +2

      Now correct me if I'm wrong, isn't it pronounced Hav-oh-lean. I've never heard it pronounced the way he did. I very well could be wrong though

    • @KP-sg9fm
      @KP-sg9fm Před 4 lety

      @@CraigFenske milk jugs

    • @Roadhouse1997
      @Roadhouse1997 Před 4 lety +2

      @@Mediocrates9 I guess it's a midwest thing cause how he said it is how I've always heard it

  • @v8_sami
    @v8_sami Před 4 lety +75

    "Holding my pee in the name of science" 🤣😂

    • @UnorthodoxMasterOfGames
      @UnorthodoxMasterOfGames Před 4 lety +3

      v8_sami Truly we are watching an esteemed scientist of our modern era

    • @fluorine7575
      @fluorine7575 Před 4 lety +1

      the reverse of bear grylls, who was drinking his pee in the name of science

    • @myemail2005
      @myemail2005 Před 4 lety +1

      A true scientist would have worn a Depend undergarment!!! I think Astronauts do. "Houston we have a problem!!!"

  • @ant2011
    @ant2011 Před 4 lety +65

    Meanwhile... Porshe: “let's put a 4cyl in a Cayman, and say its for fuel efficiency even though it isn't”

    • @cadeira2261
      @cadeira2261 Před 4 lety +7

      all that for 50k-70k euros if not more depeding where you live

  • @JdanTecate
    @JdanTecate Před 3 lety +12

    I would love to see an update on the engine and how the lean tune has effected the engine. Awesome video man! #UpDatePlease

  • @justin423
    @justin423 Před 4 lety +5

    Does anyone remember the John Lingenfelter high mpg Corvette that was featured in a magazine article? It used a mildly changed cam for increased torque, and a double overdrvie so that it would cruise at 72-75 mph at essentially idle. this would have been in late 80's early 90's.

  • @AutoAuctionRebuilds
    @AutoAuctionRebuilds Před 4 lety +12

    Bravo!! Excellent video!

  • @rohittaurus911
    @rohittaurus911 Před 4 lety +137

    Meanwhile prius owner are banging their heads against the wall. Great Job as always Alex

    • @audiosmackdown
      @audiosmackdown Před 4 lety +11

      Except we get better milage in the city than the highway, which is the reverse of the vette

    • @Appletank8
      @Appletank8 Před 4 lety +1

      I am curious how it drives at 40 mph in 5th or 6th gear.

    • @benyoung2836
      @benyoung2836 Před 4 lety +5

      @@audiosmackdown except nobody cares because thats only with electric assistance. Which doesnt work on crosscountry trips

    • @PistonAvatarGuy
      @PistonAvatarGuy Před 4 lety +3

      Why would they be doing that? They can get over 60 mpg, and with much lower emissions.

    • @audiosmackdown
      @audiosmackdown Před 4 lety +2

      @@benyoung2836 he lives in Chicago. Stop and go traffic is made for a prius. Now if he lived in wyoming...

  • @mikcun2799
    @mikcun2799 Před 4 lety +3

    Only problem I have with lean burn is that it might cause piston wall damage over extended periods of time. There is also the tuning issue if you timing isn't perfect.

  • @benyoung2836
    @benyoung2836 Před 4 lety +2

    Great job Alex! I remember tuning my turbo car for eco mode but also making power. Like they say, a good tune can make power and fuel economy

  • @sgfreak96
    @sgfreak96 Před 4 lety +1

    This is so awesome, nice work! Curious to see how well it will do in the summer, I bet that will help a lot out.

  • @rizalyogaswara4351
    @rizalyogaswara4351 Před 4 lety +3

    This is inspiring. Might have to do that kinda tune to my daily driver

  • @luis545x39
    @luis545x39 Před 4 lety +5

    You get the same MPG as my 600cc sport bike... Thats so cool!!!

  • @robertgim5455
    @robertgim5455 Před 4 lety +1

    congratulations, really love your channel, keep up the good work!

  • @cnvanetten1
    @cnvanetten1 Před 4 lety +3

    It's crazy, I worked at loeber mercedes for over 10 years and from the looks of it you are very close. If I were still in the area I'd say let's get a beer. Great videos BTW! 👍

  • @coolface998
    @coolface998 Před 4 lety +6

    Crazy to see that gas station you were filling up at was near my home haha! Awesome to see a local CZcamsr :)

  • @Robsav-yx6vi
    @Robsav-yx6vi Před 4 lety +25

    Alex , incredible results here . You have reminded us even with Basic
    Tune we can really get payback in our pockets via better fuel economy.
    As always enjoyed your video . Get this dude his own TV show !

    • @joshuawalsh8533
      @joshuawalsh8533 Před 4 lety +1

      True he dose need his own show..but I wouldn't want him to change..TV dose that to people

  • @Sovereign86
    @Sovereign86 Před 4 lety +1

    This is SO great! Really enjoyed watching this process! Even better since you got over 40mpg while doing normal hw speeds!🤯👍🏾

  • @emanymton5191
    @emanymton5191 Před 4 lety +3

    Block off the front grill; decreases drag and helps keep the engine a bit warmer, which it seems like you need in winter.

  • @hermanshelton3660
    @hermanshelton3660 Před 4 lety +4

    I loved the video. I loved the content. This means that most cars could get better gas mileage if the factory wanted them to. Thanks for putting this knowledge out there.

  • @eugenebaker3682
    @eugenebaker3682 Před 4 lety +3

    Love the oil packaging! about time they did this

  • @roccomartinelli1
    @roccomartinelli1 Před 4 lety +1

    Real cool Alex. Good to see a pisano from our city doing big things on the tube.

  • @jdizzforyou
    @jdizzforyou Před 4 lety +1

    Love this challenge, especially because I live pretty close (Matteson IL) and have driven your route to and from Milwaukee (not EXACTLY) and gotten about the same or worse mpg in my untouched 2016 Cruze LT with less than 30k miles that the window sticker claimed 43mpg Hwy. I wish I still had the car and we could do a roadtrip to compare! Awesome videos sir! subscribing rn

  • @SteveWille
    @SteveWille Před 4 lety +7

    For a real hyper-miling thrill sometime, try this test on a warm summer day.

  • @CenyG
    @CenyG Před 4 lety +6

    BRO....did you see that anomaly/orb/ghost disappear into your gauge cluster at 10:46? Your C5 is possessed.

  • @jimmydeen58
    @jimmydeen58 Před 4 lety

    Awesome Test Results.. Congrats!!!

  • @jimjames8660
    @jimjames8660 Před 4 lety +2

    The single biggest improvement I ever had was replacing the fuel injectors in my Eldorado with modified Mustang 5.0l ones from Fuel Injection Connection. The new pintle design plus being a matched flow set raised drivability and mileage tremendously

  • @e.j.s.m.7476
    @e.j.s.m.7476 Před 4 lety +3

    Thats it im getting a vet finally someone made it happen! Yess

  • @maxp4417
    @maxp4417 Před 4 lety +60

    I would bet that the marginally higher NOx emissions from the lean burn are more than offset by the ~30% less fuel you’re burning vs factory

    • @furtivedig
      @furtivedig Před 4 lety +9

      it is hard to tell, NOx are very temperature dependent

    • @Darwinpasta
      @Darwinpasta Před 4 lety +13

      It would be interesting to see this run on a smog machine.

    • @Broadpaw_Fox
      @Broadpaw_Fox Před 4 lety +9

      Finally someone who gets it!
      For thisecstill wondering, you will have a higher percentage of NOx is the exhaust from lean burn, but you will have much less exhaust volume from burning a lot less fuel. NOx is measured by percentage basically, so less fuel burned means less pollution.

    • @furtivedig
      @furtivedig Před 4 lety +5

      @@Broadpaw_Fox you are correct. However NOx emission doesn't behave linearly against temperature and AFR. meaning that even if you were using less fuel you could hypothetically still generate more NOx overall. that said running lean should decrease head temperature in my eyes, therefore reducing NOx.

    • @Mr.Bearded.Mechanic
      @Mr.Bearded.Mechanic Před 4 lety +2

      Yeah, lean burn means higher temp, (and with more/remaining O2 on exhaust) means NOx appearing. Also this test should be duplicated in summer too to see how the car engine cooling system can handle this.

  • @loganejupi7162
    @loganejupi7162 Před 4 lety

    Really awesome to see the results in this real world test. I've done that drive (Dempster -> Tri-State -> IL22) hundreds of times going to and from college, and I don't even get 40mpg in a Camry! Well done

  • @lfox02
    @lfox02 Před 4 lety +2

    I'm not normally one for cars but I have to admit your channel has me hooked. Your make good videos, dude. Thanks for making them.

  • @Dunwelll
    @Dunwelll Před 4 lety +4

    I'd love to see what just switching back to the stock thermostat will do!

  • @SupercarsinGreece
    @SupercarsinGreece Před 4 lety +7

    That’s insane!!!

  • @JordieG8
    @JordieG8 Před 4 lety

    This has been a great series. Thanks for the videos!

  • @hjalsadah
    @hjalsadah Před 4 lety +1

    This is so awesome. Makes me wanna get a corvette and daily it

  • @garagecedric
    @garagecedric Před 4 lety +3

    Great run. Narrower tyres with low rolling resistance and some aero tweaks and you will see some significantly improved numbers. I hope you continue on the project :)

  • @ledfootfam99
    @ledfootfam99 Před 4 lety +15

    I worked with oils and fuel, that is an old Texaco brand and Chevrons LOWEST grade of oil, it is their bargin brand hence why Chevron don't even use their name on the labeling, it's to not muddie the water with their normal and higher level brandage. Additive packages in those qualitys of oil is slim to none, don't cheap out on oil is the blood of that machine! Also it's packaged like that because it's made for leased shitty fleet vehicles that cheap companys dump after 50k. The money they save on packaging is absolute Max $3-4 so if it's cheaper than that then I think you can put 2 and 2 together as big companies don't give out freebies, that's a lower quality product period. Don't misinform people, add your 2's!

    • @ssoffshore5111
      @ssoffshore5111 Před 4 lety

      agreed, but to would be nice to see stuff like M1 and Rotella T6 packaged like this!

    • @gregwarner3753
      @gregwarner3753 Před 3 lety

      I buy Mobile 1 0-20W by the gallon and quarts. Thanks for the tip on the oil in the big box.
      The test was a bit unrealistic as I do not drive my Vette for mileage. The effective speed around here is 70+ in the interstate. I try and drive so I pass most cars and a few pass me.

  • @headlesnorseman701
    @headlesnorseman701 Před 4 lety +1

    This is something I’ve studied at length... I did almost this same thing with a Crx and an apexi safc. Your biggest friend is going to be a variable flow EGR system with some kind of cooler. I had planned to do this with an old motorcycle carb and a small heater core to cool off the flow. The extra co2 will cool the combustion process off and allow you to lean it out even more. Keep track of o2 and exhaust temp

  • @shawnhatfield6579
    @shawnhatfield6579 Před 4 lety +1

    Thats awesome! I had a 2002 WS6 Trans Am and I was able to get 28 mpg which I thought was pretty good. You blew that out of the water! So I sold that and got a 2005 CL55 AMG and got 20.2 mpg on my last 5 hour trip. Not good mpg's but there were some 100 to 140 runs when I passed some cars! Damn that thing is fun! Keep up the great videos!

  • @wingman12r
    @wingman12r Před 4 lety +22

    I wonder how much a front splitter, rear diffuser, lighter wheels and a 205° thermostat would improve fuel economy further.

    • @NathanaelNaused
      @NathanaelNaused Před 4 lety +2

      I really wanna see him take this further.

    • @austinsawyer8853
      @austinsawyer8853 Před rokem +2

      Actually front splitter and rear defuser create downforce which is bad for mpg, it pulls the car down deeper into the road which creates resistance and reduces mpg, but lighter wheels would help due to less rotating mass

  • @StoneCoolds
    @StoneCoolds Před 4 lety +18

    1-Oh yea i take care of the enviroment, mine does 40mpg
    2-What do you drive?
    1- A Corvette
    2- o.O

    • @jacobburskey3044
      @jacobburskey3044 Před 4 lety +2

      except the emissions increase is huge when running lean lol, his cat. converter is sweating

    • @BlacKi-nd4uy
      @BlacKi-nd4uy Před 4 lety

      @@jacobburskey3044 thats actually a good question, does lean burn kill the cat?

    • @jacobburskey3044
      @jacobburskey3044 Před 4 lety

      @@BlacKi-nd4uy just like rich mixtures, a lean mix will cause a lot of extra heat (like an exhaust leak before the cat will give it extra air) so it'll be overly hot and will eventually cause it to fail

    • @timramich
      @timramich Před 4 lety

      @@jacobburskey3044 Lean mixtures will burn cooler. There is more air to absorb the heat of the burn.

    • @StoneCoolds
      @StoneCoolds Před 4 lety

      @@jacobburskey3044 hahaha true

  • @HWandW
    @HWandW Před 4 lety

    Congratulations Alex!!! Great job!

  • @scrappyjackalope9558
    @scrappyjackalope9558 Před 4 lety

    Good job, fun watching this project.

  • @stellingbanjodude
    @stellingbanjodude Před 4 lety +58

    Original spark plugs: “I’ve lasted 140,000 plus miles “
    Owner: O.E. Is junk, I must replace with aftermarket!

    • @trevorjaster4072
      @trevorjaster4072 Před 4 lety

      I only like using oe parts for important things unless upgrading then i make sure to go with not the cheapest upgrade option

    • @RyanRoadReaper
      @RyanRoadReaper Před 3 lety +1

      RIP Spark plug
      1999-2020

  • @danthonyphillips1617
    @danthonyphillips1617 Před 4 lety +4

    Omg should be done on my Escalade esv

    • @mogumede8211
      @mogumede8211 Před 4 lety +1

      Your truck has terrible aerodynamics and a large frontal area. You'll be lucky to be in the mid 20s after doing all this.
      The Vette has a small frontal area, good aero, and a very tall 6th gear.

  • @george8718
    @george8718 Před 4 lety

    I really enjoy watching your test,amazing 🤘🏻

  • @PatrickHRoss
    @PatrickHRoss Před 4 lety

    Beautiful, thanks for sharing this is quite inspiring

  • @twinsonic65
    @twinsonic65 Před 4 lety +29

    Damn good brand of oil! I used AMSOIL since the late 80's and gotten great gas mileage with engine protection. Here is another challenge - Drive the Vette to the point of almost empty, then put in 100% pure gas in it - that right NO ETHANOL. Then run the test with 90/10 gas VS. 100 percent gas. Looking forward to see your results. Use the Pure Gas app.....P.S. Try the AMSOIL gas cleaner concentrate with the 100% gas....... : )

    • @timramich
      @timramich Před 4 lety +3

      Ethanol-free gas is usually way more expensive than the actual cost of that 10% of fuel that it would negate any cost savings. I guess it depends on if he is going for money savings or going for petroleum savings.

    • @twinsonic65
      @twinsonic65 Před 4 lety +1

      @@timramich Just a comparison - difference of gas mileage only. Would be nice if the ethanol is removed from ALL gas due to water attraction issues and enviromental.

    • @Manuel-xy7un
      @Manuel-xy7un Před 4 lety

      @@twinsonic65 shell Vpower doesnt have any ethanol in it at least in canada

    • @timramich
      @timramich Před 4 lety

      @@twinsonic65 What environmental issues?

    • @twinsonic65
      @twinsonic65 Před 4 lety +3

      @@timramich Increased carbon emissions. The ethanol increases the BTU of the fuel, but you get less gas mileage than non-ethanol fuel, therefore the cost in the long run goes up. And the price of corn goes up, affecting the supermarket shopper. 2003 Honda CR-V 2.4 liter 4 banger with the 4 speed auto -170,000 miles on the clock. 90/10 fuel, highway - 28 mpg. 100% pure gas, I get up to 32 mpg. At 70 mph. Also ran a lot better. With the Corvette, the aerodynamics, summer temps , correct thermostat, low revs before shifting, windows up, A/C running, 100% pure gas, I wouldn't be surprised if it hits mid to high 40's. The Winter blend gas in Chicago lowers gas mileage up to 15%. In truth, the gas mileage test at this time, left a lot on the table.....

  • @73xlh
    @73xlh Před 4 lety +3

    You should do this test with a Silverado!! Hey, wait! I have a 2010 Silverado I would love to see this done to. I am 5hrs from you. Wanna try? I would leave my truck with you and let you have full reign!

  • @fatboysgarage7984
    @fatboysgarage7984 Před 3 lety

    My friend had a 2004 Corvette and he did a set of Trickflow heads and a stage 3 cam with a FAST intake and a 93 MM throttle body, long tube headers, X pipe exhaust, and a dyno tune. We took it from Amarillo to Bowling Green and only stopped for gas 4 times there and back with an average crushing speed of 85 MPH. According to his HUD, he was getting 32.5 MPG highway and 29 MPG city.

  • @richsmith9063
    @richsmith9063 Před 4 lety

    You're carrying the torch....Leading the way. Great work !!!

  • @phaedrusbjb
    @phaedrusbjb Před 4 lety +37

    cold weather and higher air density should lose about 5% economy - bet it will improve come summer.

    • @phaedrusbjb
      @phaedrusbjb Před 4 lety +6

      @Rusty Climber i would agree with you on the t-stat. but i am a pilot, and the effects of air density on lift (and therefore drag) are significant. my own cars decrease fuel economy very reliably in cold air, discounting extended warm up time, etc. lots of careful observation over the years. i'll be interested in seeing his results with just a t-stat change. thanks for your comment / reply.

    • @jamesengland7461
      @jamesengland7461 Před 4 lety +2

      Higher air density increases power. The computer will compensate with better mileage. However, drivetrain friction may increase.

    • @phaedrusbjb
      @phaedrusbjb Před 4 lety +1

      @Rusty Climber not so impressivve really, got a part 103 ultralight and taught myself. aviation for the common man!

    • @phaedrusbjb
      @phaedrusbjb Před 4 lety +7

      @@jamesengland7461 power goes up in a linear fashion with air density, but drag goes up as a square function. there might be a regime at lower speeds where there might be a slight increase in overall mpg, but as you point out, cold increases friction as well. i'd like to check the math, but the peak mpg should be lower at significantly lower temps, and occurring at a lower speed as well. good food for thought, thanks.

    • @jamesengland7461
      @jamesengland7461 Před 4 lety +1

      @@phaedrusbjb good point! Didn't think of that

  • @boxerdog5979
    @boxerdog5979 Před 4 lety

    Really good. I have a 2016 Audi A5 with a 2.0T engine. I got a stage 1 tune on it which helps with MPG and HP. This is my commuter car, so I just leave it in comfort mode and drive mellow. Car only has 33k miles. It is well maintained, I even changed the spark plugs, air filter, coil packs to keep it running nice. I average on my 50mile round trip commute 24mpg. Very impressed with your project.

  • @steveschmidt5574
    @steveschmidt5574 Před 4 lety

    Super cool build. Some of the tuning is above my head but it was really interesting and I am pumped for you!

  • @markemmanuelrodriguez4323

    I LOVE that you Ecomodded the C5 to get 40MPG! I've read that it can be done and you proved that it can be done without too much hypermiling. The Honda Civic VX left the factory with a lean burn mode a rating of 44/51MPG. I'd love to do this tune to my road trip car and a future project. Do you think it'd be quick to change the tune on a map quickly without lugging around a huge laptop? It'd be awesome to switch from a performance tune to an eco tune within seconds. :)

    • @TurboA4
      @TurboA4 Před 4 lety +2

      The beauty of this is you can have both performance and fuel economy in the same map. He is only changing VE in the area where he wants a lean AFR at cruise. If he smashes the Throttle it would move into a different part of the VE map that will use a proper AFR for power. Best of both worlds.

    • @markemmanuelrodriguez4323
      @markemmanuelrodriguez4323 Před 4 lety +1

      @@TurboA4 Very cool!

  • @MTI250
    @MTI250 Před 4 lety +259

    Slowing down in gear and no throttle is more economical than cruising in neutral.

    • @r129r16pfl
      @r129r16pfl Před 4 lety +53

      + coasting in neutral is a very bad habit

    • @BlacKi-nd4uy
      @BlacKi-nd4uy Před 4 lety +9

      its not, when you do it early and you dont need the brakes.

    • @ws6705
      @ws6705 Před 4 lety

      explain?

    • @BlacKi-nd4uy
      @BlacKi-nd4uy Před 4 lety +3

      @@ws6705 short: because you have less rpm.
      long: if you rolling with enginebrake you had to longer pushing the gas pedal then you would do without. sry, hard to explain in english. an even better method would be killing the engine early and roll to the streetlights, this would improve it even further.

    • @timramich
      @timramich Před 4 lety +15

      Wrong. It all depends on how the computer is programmed. Some vehicles fuel cut above a certain RPM when it knows the throttle is closed. Some sense if it is in gear and have a different fueling strategy for neutral. For instance, in my 2002 Grand Cherokee, it uses FAR less fuel being in neutral than in gear, even if being in gear going down a hill doesn't net any more RPM than idle, it has a different fueling strategy. People freak out too much about neutral's instability.

  • @joshuawalsh8533
    @joshuawalsh8533 Před 4 lety

    Been watching your videos for a while now like years and this series that you did is my favourite next to the diesel videos you did keep it up man love your content

  • @PistonAvatarGuy
    @PistonAvatarGuy Před rokem

    It was pretty interesting to watch this experiment, thanks for the videos.

  • @Fee.1
    @Fee.1 Před 4 lety +14

    Havoline: Will sponsor the video but you can’t have any other oil brand labels in it
    Blur: I got u fam

  • @Avetho
    @Avetho Před 4 lety +7

    Imma just say that Havoline is doing good with that new oil box.
    And you done good Alex, I'm proud of you :)

    • @aussiejonno
      @aussiejonno Před 4 lety

      In Australia are oil mostly comes in 4-6 liter containers but we do have 1 liter aswell but they're almost half the cost of the 4-6 liter

  • @TruckandTravel
    @TruckandTravel Před 4 lety +2

    I really enjoyed this vette on your channel I hope you don't stop at 40 mpg and try to climb it up higher. Good stuff!

  • @MarkusAJ
    @MarkusAJ Před 4 lety +1

    Nice work!
    This is the kind of mod/challange I would love to see a CDI doing as well!

  • @haryosoo
    @haryosoo Před 4 lety +10

    dude, u're the anti-thesis of the "it's more fun driving slow car fast than driving fast car slowly". the journey to make a gas-guzzling fast car burn less fuel is challenging in its own way

  • @mattbroussard7409
    @mattbroussard7409 Před 4 lety

    Freaking awesome!!! I used to have a 99 300M and I got 31mpg on a road trip. 3.5 liter v6. I would love to get 20 in my 08 Avalanche, but it's leveled with bigger tires and I can only get about 17.5 back and forth to work and 15 on the interstate. I also currently have a 99 trans am and got 23 mpg as my best.

  • @DBMD7
    @DBMD7 Před 4 lety

    Cool to see you drive on 94 and pass all of the exits I do to get home everyday from work in North Suburbs. Great video. Keep grinding

  • @ivokletetzka
    @ivokletetzka Před 4 lety +28

    Mpg efficiency might be good, but running lean causes a lot of NOx emissions. VW's manipulated diesel cars are clean af compared to your Corvette...

    • @markemmanuelrodriguez4323
      @markemmanuelrodriguez4323 Před 4 lety +9

      This is one of my concerns with this mod. I'd love to see a test to compare the NOx and COe emissions of the eco mod and the standard map. If it does increase NOx, does the benefit outweigh the cost?

    • @chrisoconnor3119
      @chrisoconnor3119 Před 4 lety +6

      Wow who cares

    • @Appletank8
      @Appletank8 Před 4 lety +4

      From my research, he might need to do a catalyst swap due to how catalytic converters need a very specific exhaust mix to work best. aka 14.7 A/F. Anything that's off makes standard converters work less efficiently

    • @markemmanuelrodriguez4323
      @markemmanuelrodriguez4323 Před 4 lety

      @@Appletank8 That's good to know. I didn't know that.

    • @ghoulbuster1
      @ghoulbuster1 Před 4 lety +1

      I mean if you care this much about emissions, you wouldn't get a car in the first place...

  • @TheSoap1946
    @TheSoap1946 Před 4 lety +3

    Can you upload more than once a week lol

  • @DoctorHemi
    @DoctorHemi Před rokem

    This is such a cool experiment! Thanks for doing this. I'd love to have that same program on my 2002 M6 Camaro SS.

  • @reesesman8821
    @reesesman8821 Před 4 lety

    In the Chicago area too so it was cool to see touhy ave and old orchard also love the S10+ I've got an s10 as well

  • @andrewmaas6620
    @andrewmaas6620 Před 4 lety +3

    Next time get out of Chicago then start

  • @Zubkover
    @Zubkover Před 4 lety +3

    11:30 Did ya just ran a red light? xD

    • @rosen9425
      @rosen9425 Před 4 lety

      Oh he did alright 🤣

    • @zoltanhortobagyi4323
      @zoltanhortobagyi4323 Před 4 lety +1

      Come on now! You know that science demanded it. Lol

    • @bartbarnett2811
      @bartbarnett2811 Před 4 lety

      Can't afford that fuel sitting there idling not moving

    • @rosen9425
      @rosen9425 Před 4 lety +1

      @@bartbarnett2811
      See! This is where envirofascism leads us, running red lights 😂

  • @nicolas_h9090
    @nicolas_h9090 Před 4 lety +1

    I'm greatful I subscribed! Great content,keep it up!
    Also,707mi is roughly 1137 km! That's insane!

    • @Robsav-yx6vi
      @Robsav-yx6vi Před 4 lety

      Nicolás H. : thanks for the conversion Nicolas. Your right , thanks
      Amazing results for a Corvette...wow . Take care buddy

  • @yukimasaheppe1079
    @yukimasaheppe1079 Před 4 lety

    Nice👍 you had me at AMG stuff but this is also enjoyable💪

  • @ghostbuddy3106
    @ghostbuddy3106 Před 4 lety +3

    I swear - the sign at the gas station says "pee before pumping".

  • @trevoncowen9198
    @trevoncowen9198 Před 4 lety +5

    If he can do that the factory can the car industry definitely on bs by giving us turbo 4 and 6

    • @ssoffshore5111
      @ssoffshore5111 Před 4 lety +2

      It can be done on those engines with the same outcome, but the factory cant do this because it increases the emissions and can tend to spike EGT (possibly harmful to valves, etc). Awesome content though!

    • @trevoncowen9198
      @trevoncowen9198 Před 4 lety +1

      SS OFFSHORE alright I didn’t know

    • @7891ph
      @7891ph Před 4 lety

      @@trevoncowen9198 Thank you for being more of a man than many by being willing to admit that. Rock on!!!

  • @joshuaolsen8844
    @joshuaolsen8844 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for the info Alex! My only sad point is you didn’t come visit Sheboygan 1hr north of Milwaukee ;) Maybe next video!

  • @rpturbo
    @rpturbo Před 4 lety

    Alex, I love your channel. You seem to be one of the few guys like me that both Love a great German car, & a good turbo LS. I've always been a BMW guy, so thanks for opening my eyes on a nice AMG!

  • @DeusVolo
    @DeusVolo Před 4 lety +10

    Hmmm I've always pronounced it Have-ah-lean

    • @Mr.SparkleOG
      @Mr.SparkleOG Před 4 lety +1

      I was shocked to hear how he pronounced it as ive always pronounced it like you!

    • @cris_m8
      @cris_m8 Před 4 lety

      He pronounced it correctly. czcams.com/video/1epD4ngbFfE/video.html

  • @_Epictetus_
    @_Epictetus_ Před 4 lety +3

    If you can get 40mpg in a v8 then we should be able to get 80mpg in a i4 or h4 😉

  • @caseybrannon4975
    @caseybrannon4975 Před 4 lety +1

    Pretty impressive. I had a 2000 C5 with a manual and 3:42 gears. On the highway at 70 it got an easy 30-32 mpg.

  • @gbpf57
    @gbpf57 Před 4 lety

    Great job on this car. I'm as excited as you watching it. I'm can't squeeze anywhere near this with my Ford.

  • @ninjafit3275
    @ninjafit3275 Před 4 lety +3

    Holding your pee for the love of science just got you a like from me, salute.

  • @jebohim
    @jebohim Před 4 lety +4

    Convert it to LPG fuel, then it should be economic

  • @AnthonyKuiper
    @AnthonyKuiper Před rokem

    Very cool! Watched both vids, followed along with google maps, and had my calculator out!

  • @elviejoboliDR
    @elviejoboliDR Před 4 lety

    Really cool videos, I have a 2013 GL450 wonder if you can make a video changing the breaks, or about the airsuspension fix, thanks for all your videos

  • @danielhurley7018
    @danielhurley7018 Před 4 lety +61

    Hi, my name is Alex and I just made the worlds cheapest Eco-Bugatti.

    • @charlieanddadreviewsandcha2243
      @charlieanddadreviewsandcha2243 Před 4 lety +1

      Let me guess. Soap box derby clone?

    • @jamesengland7461
      @jamesengland7461 Před 4 lety +6

      I bet a twin turbo LS swap in a Bugatti would improve power, weight, mileage, and reduce the cost of an oil change from $20,000 to $100! The swap may not even cost $20,000!

    • @beekman306
      @beekman306 Před 4 lety +5

      James England plus the old engine is at least worth $200,000

    • @jackdoyle2611
      @jackdoyle2611 Před 4 lety

      James England why the hell would anyone ever do that

    • @Spherz
      @Spherz Před 4 lety

      @Jack Doyle I would take an engine from a Vette and put it in a salvage title supercar, then take the engine from the supercar and put it in the vette