episode 5 Masters of the air Bombing of Munster air - battle footage
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- čas přidán 16. 02. 2024
- here episode 5 from masters of the air, a short cut clip from this episode about the bombing on Munster, not many returned....
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Note he made sure the Norden bomb sight was destroyed. That was a key piece of our aviation history and we had to make sure the Germans didn’t get a working copy of it. It was designed in a top secret program. Kudos to the writer of this episode to show that.
thank you for the info :)
The security was necessary at the time. But in hindsight, it was meaningless. The Germans had already gotten the complete details of the Norden through their industrial spies even before the war started. And it wasn’t much use to them anyway it since German companies had already been developing similar systems at that point.
To my knowledge a lot of this bombsite was over hyped as propaganda to give both servicemen and people at home the impression their bombs wouldn't inflict civilian casualties. Still a great piece of technology but something purely mechanic dropping unguided bombs with changing winds couldn't be that accurate
That was Lt John L.Hoerr who shot that bomb sight, my son Nathen Solly is the actor portraying him. Funny story, when my son shot that scene, they didn't expect him to shot so good, he hit the glass first shot every take, ended up running out of parts lol...
@@adlayillskay2213 At the time the bombsight was developed, bombing was being practiced at around 12,000 to 18,000 feet. In still air at those altitudes it could be very accurate. But bombing in Europe during the winter at 25,000 to 30,000 feet was another matter. Still, I’ve seen strike photos that show a very tight and accurate bomb pattern.
Old neighbor was an English war bride. Lived near a USAAF base. They would count the planes taking off on their way to school and coming back in the afternoon. After 60 odd years living here she spoke of "the Yanks " and " our lads " Always hung out the Union Jack on the Queen's Birthday. Good old girls. they are both missed.
thanks for the info :)
This series has become an obsession for me.
we listened to the feedback from our followers and this episode we removed the "facts" pop ups
keep in mind, masters of the air is the ONLY series we will ever "completely" list on our page, soon we will follow up with WW2 relic helmet content, right now we are still in the progress of designing our own series on relic helmets first episode expected to be launched within a month.
They bombed Münster/Muenster and not Munster. Munster is further east.
in the most of the world we dont use the two dots on top of letters, they do in a few countries, i would not even know how to make it with my keyboard ! so yes your right, but for most people its just Munster ;) @@wolfganggugelweith8760
I had the privilege of meeting and working for David F Castles of the 100th bomb group, ill never forget working at his house in Atlanta In 2005, he was in his 80's and working right along with us in the crawlsapce under his house doing electrical work, ill never forget when he yelled up to his wife to turn the breaker on and it shocked the crap out him and was yelling back to her "TURN IT OFF , TURN IT OFF NOW!!! along with a few other choice words, cracks me up every time i think about it. He was the WG on his B-17 and was shot down over germany and was a POW for over a year, all of his crew survived by bailing out, he passed in 2016 at his home in his sleep peacefully, if you look on the 100th bomb group foundation website you will find him there. God rest his soul 🙏
thanks for the info what a story
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For the love of God I hope they didn't hit the cheese factory !!! But seriously, love your uploads. Top notch !
hahaha thanks a lot much appreciated!
Man it's like every significant moment of the story gets it's own scene. You literally have scenes within scenes equating to a short movie's worth in just 6 minutes. That is insane and amazing. Also they went all out on little historical accuracies and trivia that go to from destroying the Norden Bombsight that they didn't want falling into enemy hands (This sorta thing happened all over across multiple nations and their various precious technologies of the time) to just how young these soilders were. These guys don't look much older than teenagers and here they are fighting a war. There's even an obscure but fairly popular at the time 80s song called "19" by Paul Hardcastle that my mother told me about that talks about how young soldiers were in the vietnam war and what they had to deal with, but one of the lines in it sounds like their using audio samples from historical documentaries and part of the recording their using the most for samples says "In WWII the average age of the combat soldier was 26, in vietnam he was 19". It's an amazing song with an amazing music video if your really into history in general.
Hell they even went so far as to make a major scene out of how horrifically ineffective bombers were in small groups and even then how much danger they were in against fighters without escort. Both of which were things that DID happen with US bombers in WWII until we got to the point where we had progressed so far into the war that we were employing massive formations of bombers with enough long range escort fighters to cover them. This movie is practically made for us WWII history nerds.
thanks for the info :)
@@rocksteadymilitaria541In my defense I was high as a kite but your very welcome. xD
@@Marxman-bi5yu whahhaaha made me LOL
My grandad was on the Flak gun batteries in Munster!
Unfamiliar with this series. Random CZcams brought me here. This is hard to watch since my father was a ball turret gunner.
2:10 the violins remind me of the 90's series with the ''path'' to other universes .
I absolutely love this show but man some of the accents are BAAAAAAAD.
The Air War 😮
In the 70s I worked on a working US airbase. Some of the older civilian workers that were there during the war told me that they often had to hose out the insides of some aircraft after missions before they could start on their repair.
wow what a story... thanks for sharing, at home iv got a wooden carved table made by a US airforce service man who made it in England but could not bring it home
At 1:40, can anyone tell me why there are dozens of planes flying much higher than the bombers that the series is focusing on (i.e., the 100th)? It doesn't look like they are dropping on the IP. Are they headed somewhere else? What is the purpose of having the 100th fly so much lower? It seems like you can also see more of them at 1:09.
They would stagger the attacking aircraft at different altitudes in an attempt to interfere with the German flak's gun laying radars, also so enemy fighters had fewer targets to fire at while making a single pass, as well as to force the enemy fighters to divide themselves amongst different combat boxes at different altitudes and thereby reduce their potency.
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This wasn't like flying rather a rugby or football match
We tend to forget, this shit really happened. Young 20 somethings were flying fighting and dying for this country.
All 5 of my grand mother's brothers signed up for the Air Corp. One told me in the 70s, they grew up on the farm and had seen enough mud.
4 made it home. One came home a Colonel from the Pacific Theatre. I was impressed by that as a lil kid. He told me they had 40,000 Colonels. It did seem less impressive then.
If you have wounded on board, as you come in to land, aren't you suppose to pop a red flare for the ambulance guys to meet you ????
could be but im not sure
There are a few things I don't understand:
Why do the Luftwaffe fighters always wait until the bombers reach the flak fire? This way they are massively endangered themselves by friendly flak.
And: In the target area, the bomber groups changed course every 40-60 seconds (depending on height) to escape flak fire. In every movie they stubbornly hold straight course.
These are clips of the full episode spliced together leaving out a lot of context. I’d watch the actual show.
Once the aircraft reached the Initial Point they would fly in a straight line following the Group Leader until they dropped their bombs, and the pilot would relinquish directional control of the aircraft to the Bombardier via the Norden Bombsight. Fighters didn't always wait until the bombers 'reached the flak fire' but once the bombers had reached the IP their straight heading and inability to maneuver made them far easier targets.
I watched a training film for the B-17's about a year ago. They calculated the time to change height. Most Flak guns were radar assisted. So it took time for the gunners to fire and get new instructions. Then bombers would fly so long at a set height then change in the hope that the gunners would fire at where they had been.
Ganz einfach.Kurz vor dem Ziel übernahm der Bombenschütze die Steuerung,ein gutes unbewegliches Ziel.In der Regel wurde versucht frontal anzugreifen,da dort die wenigsten Abwehrwaffen waren.Zum feuern blieben 3 bis 6 Sekunden, was bei 3 20mm Mk umd zwei 13mm MG bei der Bf109 oder bis zu 4 20mm MK und zwei 13mm MG bei der FW 190 voll ausreichte,besonders durch die Explosivgeschosse der 20mmMk.Sturmstaffeln mit zusätzlich gepanzerten Fw 190 und bis zu 6 20mmMk griffen in großen Gruppen von der Seite an,was sich sehr erfolgreich erwies.Schlüssel war in beiden Fällen der Escorde auszuweichen,die das Flakfeuer oft mied.Mein Großvater flog bei der 7./JG 53 eine Bf109 G6.Es waren blutjunge Piloten die einfach die Zivilisten am Boden schützen wollten und sich in das Abwehrfeuer stürzten.Er schoss drei B17 und eine B24ab und hatte das seltene Glück in 18 Monaten im Einsatz nie abgeschossen zu werden.Er war gerade einmal 21 Jahre alt.Unfassbar was diese Jungs der Luftwaffe und der Air Force so Jung erleben mussten und wie viele in ihren Maschinen starben.Von der Staffel meines Großvaters starben.über 70 Prozent, er hat bis zu seinem Tod immer wieder gesagt,nie wieder Krieg,nie wieder.
Cool, they used original maps of munster in all the scenes.
i noticed it in some other episodes too, like berlin bombing
@@rocksteadymilitaria541 I only looked it up for muenster, but it makes sense. They did some real precise work. I mean, they could have used any maps and almost noone would have recognized, I bet.
I don't know why they hated Herman Munster so much.
i think cause we have troubles pronouncing Munster correctly
Oh no, at 3:44 Bombs are falling directly on 'Rote Lola'
i believe it happend a couple of times in real life
Hab nur nach Kommentaren von Münsteranern gesucht 😂
Really good series but it shows some inaccuracies. The Norden bombsight, on the lead bomber, dropped automatically after it's calculations etc; the lead bomber didn't physically push the bomb release button. All remaining bombardiers did press the release button as soon as they saw the lead dropping. That is just one small inaccuracy, but overall, I love this series. We have to remember that it is being produced by Steven Spielberg, who is Jewish so, a lot of the German military scenes are heavily laced with small overt things that most won't notice but have been proven previously and confirmed by war diaries and memoirs of German soldiers but Also American, British and other POWs, civilians, American Armed Forces records and documents, German official records and documents that made it punishable by the law from the German Govt for mistreatment of any POWs, stalags, "concentration" camps, work camps etc; to either not be handled the way these scenes show or lead on, not as violent, sadistic, blood thirsty and overall down right out bad. Now I do understand that there were some instances that were completely inappropriate, and I am certain things happened that weren't right and mishandled but they were the exception not the rule. These, "as our own Govt" claims now, were the actions of a person acting alone or with disregard to following the rules. These "bad apples" actions were against their regulations, against their laws and not tolerated and were not condoned by any German Govt or Armed Forces. Every group of humans has bad "eggs". The only other complaint I would have is some of the CGI is a bit wonky or a stretch compared to real world characteristics and physics.
What the fuck are you talking about?
The German government of the time gave the order to build the concentration camps. There were not only "Bad apples". There was a whole system in place to achieve those goals...
thanks for the info :)
they should have upload all episode seires means all
they are now all online :)
4:32 Black 7 Staffel 2 Gruppe 1 JG26
Looks like Black 7 8th Staffel III. Gruppe JG26 to me (vertical bar after the Balkenkruez in the last frame), although why it has a stuka geshwader symbol under the canopy I'm not sure...
maybe a former stuka pilot or complete group@@stevenmcconway5529
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I am extremely disappointed in this mini series. They are only 40 minutes long, they jump around so rapidly in the scenes, all of the scenes are extremely dark-very hard to see what's going on and the B17 sound effects sound like a 4 cylinder Honda. Nothing like "The Band of Brothers"
No, I agree. I thought yours was much better done. Better sound and your use of CGI was much better than this train wreck.
they are different for sure :)
Where is Bob?
Bob?
Hitting Munster. But I thought Ireland was neutral in WW2.
Ireland hosted Hitler on several occasions in order for the Germans to assess using Ireland as a naval/Air support and supply base. They were obviously against UK after the 1916 war of independence and supporters of Nazi Germany.
is there also a munster in Ireland?
Heute nennt man das Kriegsverbrechen.
Ein Güterbahnhof gilt nicht als militärisches Ziel? Ich denke doch.
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Inkább lennék gyalogos baszki....
Elende Feiglinge😢
Ach ja wer genau? Bomberbesatzungen im zweiten Weltkrieg haben mit Sicherheit mehr Mut, Disziplin und Können an den Tag gelegt als sie in ihrem Leben
Du sagst es. Women and children first.
Can't help but feel this was a reel for normies. So disappointed with this series. It's so far from Band of Brothers.....The subject matter lifts it some. Honestly it was really shit.
This show looks awful.
This series was laughably bad
it has its moments hihi, cant compare it to the pacific or band of brothers, its a different breed
Компьютерное гавно.
yes lots of computer work, different the saving private/band of brothers/ or the pacific
CGI crap.
The Memphis belle Movie from the 90s still looks and still holds up till today. Stil the best B17 Movie ever made. You are right MAsters of the Sky is just CGi Crap with bad Actors in my eyes..
@@janwetzlar Yes indeed that was a great movie.
delusional